1.8T 20v camshaft test - Stock vs custom billet cams | ARP head studs to stop head lift

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
  • This has been a long time coming. I've been wanting to see if the billet camshafts I've had in this engine for nearly 2 years actually made a difference to the power and the results surprised me.
    Hope you enjoy the video!
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Komentáře • 83

  • @sanjayprawlall8830
    @sanjayprawlall8830 Před rokem

    I was anxiously awaiting another video from you Lorenzo. Keep them coming bro.....please😊

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      I'll try my best 🙏🏽

  • @kelluma
    @kelluma Před rokem +1

    On my SC Peugeot i had stage 2 fast road cams 264/10.6mm lift. It have 350hp/330nm, changed stock cams and boom.... 420hp/460nm.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Brilliant gains 👏🏽

  • @user-jl3co3rt8v
    @user-jl3co3rt8v Před rokem

    Great update lorenzo short but potent 😂 mid range is where the spice is at 👍 can't wait to the car in action again 👊

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      It's going to be out of action for a while. Lots of winter mods planned. But I'm looking forward to testing the upgrades. 😬

  • @MarioVanderMescht-yr1nl

    Your mk2 is a beast... love it💪🏼💪🏼

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      🙏🏽 appreciate it Mario.

  • @westcoastking4467
    @westcoastking4467 Před rokem

    Car has come a long way

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      It really has and I feel like it's only getting started. So much plans for this car. Hopefully I get to see them through.

  • @lindonk20
    @lindonk20 Před rokem +3

    Respect bru.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      Coming from you, much love.

  • @westcoastking4467
    @westcoastking4467 Před rokem +1

    Love your vids

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Really appreciate it. 🙏🏽

  • @hurschelotto4604
    @hurschelotto4604 Před rokem

    Yo Buddy, this is great insight hey, basically you trying to get your car to run perfect and i like your way of thinking to get that power.. it's best to think out of the Box all the best further ahead my man 😁💪🏽🙏🏽

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      I'm just trying to make the best of what I've got and test things that are known to work. It takes time and money to do this but it's worth the effort. 🙌🏽

  • @tinobemotorsport5143
    @tinobemotorsport5143 Před rokem

    Any cam that will work on a N/A engine will work on a turbo application as well, as long a the boost to back pressure ratio stays positive. You wil have to get more data regarding the pressure ratio across the engine to make a final call on the larger cams. eg: if your intake manifold pressure is 2bar but the back pressure between engine an turbine is 2.1 there wil be backwash and loss of power.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @ronanjuries7091
    @ronanjuries7091 Před rokem

    Very interesting video.
    Great Stuff let's see how it does on the Track.
    Thanks Lorenzo great video

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      A few more things to change and test before it hits the track. But I'm looking forward to it. 😬

  • @grantfredericks62
    @grantfredericks62 Před rokem

    Great content, thanks LL. can’t wait to see ML vs LL. let me know when this happens, can’t wait 😅

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      ML will be out with his Mk2 soon. My car is now the hold up. Once it's done, we will race. 😎

  • @cameronpiedt2898
    @cameronpiedt2898 Před rokem

    Couldn't wait for an update

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      It's a small one today but it's an update. 💪🏽

    • @cameronpiedt2898
      @cameronpiedt2898 Před rokem

      @@lowdl all that matters bro informative content always💪

  • @JA_S_ON
    @JA_S_ON Před rokem

    6:52 maybru, midrange for days

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      It's a solid jump and I think there's more in it with some tuning. 😬

  • @StixGarage
    @StixGarage Před rokem +2

    This is a very interesting video. You killed the myths. Small question. What about stock NA cams, e.g. the AGN cams, they are hard to find but they are slightly more aggressive than the AGU cams but not as aggressive as the aftermarket 270/257 cams you mentioned. If you get your hands on at least the intake AGN cam, it would be a great comparison as well.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      The AGN cams are good. Just doing the intake is known to give some gains. I'd be down to test those. Finding the cams isn't too difficult. Getting my tuner to test them will be harder. lol.

  • @jaredmooragan6653
    @jaredmooragan6653 Před rokem

    Interesting to understand the detail’s behind that but it’s been proved like this quite a few times. So many guys making decent power say ‘stock cams’ and now you can understand why.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      I wish I knew this sooner. Been running the billets and losing midrange for almost 2 years 🤣 but it's good to learn and see the data back to back.

  • @clintonphilander6595
    @clintonphilander6595 Před rokem

    Awesomeness bru, im glad u getting everything sorted, strange bt true about the cams, bt hey if it works it works, how far is dads car?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      The cams is very strange. Turbo cars are just different. And my dads car is nearly ready to hit the track. I'll update you guys on that next week. He will probably bring it out for Robot Racing or Street Mania in the next few weeks.

  • @VADER_225
    @VADER_225 Před rokem

    Yes I agree,a 20vt dyno day does sound like a good idea.😬😂

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      A 20vt dyno day would be awesome. There needs to be a incentive to bring the guys out. I find that a lot of the swapped 20vt cars don't really do dyno days.

  • @anesennaidoo5279
    @anesennaidoo5279 Před rokem

    Its been proven many times that stock (mild profiled) cams on a turbo engine are better in terms of performance, tuning, drivability and overall maintenance. Normally aspirated engines benefit hugely from changing cams. Again, excellent video, thank you!

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      It's a pity that we weren't able to do back to back testing when the cams initially went in. I would have checked them from the get go. Lol. But yes, stock cams does really well. If I keep these cams I'll have them reprofiled to a very mild spec that will have more lift. That should be interesting to see.

    • @anesennaidoo5279
      @anesennaidoo5279 Před rokem

      @@lowdl Cams, valves, springs, ports...It is such a game of variables. Hang in there, the car sounds and runs great.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      @@anesennaidoo5279 I might mess around with valvetrain and rev it over 8k. But on the flip side, it will cost about the same to stroke it to 2.0 and keep the rpm the same. As they say: there's no replacement for displacement.

  • @its_a_salt_ed
    @its_a_salt_ed Před rokem +1

    Lets go!! 1st

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      💪🏽 you're a champ.

  • @michaelmitchell7289
    @michaelmitchell7289 Před rokem

    Good test vid. Have you heard of guys, using s3 cams?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      No not really. The NA AGN cams seems to be the cam of choice for most guys. I don't think the S3 cams are very different to the rest. But I'll look into it.

  • @zubairloonat3248
    @zubairloonat3248 Před rokem

    Enayets car we played with cams too and reverted to stock cams and like you made more power. Best yet was turbo spooled a full 1000rpm earlier too.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      I was really hoping for earlier spool as well. We're going to fit a smaller runner manifold and see if that's the magic pill. Will update you guys on that next week. Even if I get 500 rpm, I'll be happy. I just need a 3000rpm powerband to stay in boost.

    • @zubairloonat3248
      @zubairloonat3248 Před rokem

      Use a 36mm ID short runner.

  • @dorianmentor3921
    @dorianmentor3921 Před rokem

    Interesting and cams definitely should do something so all the best with the manifold hunt that's not a cheap fix nvm the leak. What did u spend so far to get to 300kw 😅 great power over stock,all the best 👌

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Getting to 300kw wasn't too difficult. Just needed a good turbo, exhaust & turbo manifold and ethanol. It cost me way too much but I've been through 2 other turbos and lots of other changes so I can't give you a number.

  • @doozybad8068
    @doozybad8068 Před rokem

    What management system are you running? Awesome build btw

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Thank you very much. It's on a Ecu Master emu black.

  • @gedas3419
    @gedas3419 Před rokem

    Vag somehow makes n/a cams a tad bit better. 1.9 tdi flows better with Sdi cams. V6 2.7t gets biggest heads from 2.8 v6 and cams from 2.4 v6. Look for 1.8 92kw(125hp) n/a cams. I heard many project makers put them in and see gains. Try it.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Hey. Thanks for your input. I've heard the NA 20v cams work well. A lot of the time the guys only change the intake cam and get results. So it will be good to see how it works on my setup.

  • @taswellbarthus4032
    @taswellbarthus4032 Před rokem

    I've seen on the 1.8T forums that most guys stick with stock cams even beyond 330kw..no sweat. Torque wins races on the 400m in any event 👌

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      Yes stock cams or the NA cams seems to be the setup of choice from what I've seen. I can understand why now. Haha. And yes, a nice wide torque band is what it needs. For my setup it seems that over 300nm throughout the race is what keeps the car moving nicely.

  • @Motor_Mania_1
    @Motor_Mania_1 Před rokem +1

    What is the specs of the turbo thats currently on the car. Got a polo gi 1.8t and want to upgrade turbo soon. I currently have Ko4.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      It's a G25 660. It's a 54mm turbo. If you want something punchy like the K04 but with more power, a GTX3071 or G25 550 is a good option.

  • @donovanoosthuizen7739

    Great vid as allways just if i may where did you buy the arp head studs from and cost pls iam allso looking at 1.6bar boost and pushing for for 300kw and iam allso runing std head and bolts

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      You can try Turbos and Nos in Jozi. They sell the ARP head studs. Price is approx R5300-R5800 from what I've seen around. Stock head bolts are not bad but they're stretch bolts and will eventually come loose over time so it's worth investing in.

  • @joshuajaftha167
    @joshuajaftha167 Před rokem

    Nice video as always! Would love to run against you sometime

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +2

      I'm keen for a run. I don't think I'll be at the track for a month or so but I'll keep you guys updated with the videos. When the car is sorted just DM me on IG and we can arrange.

  • @mikedesousa3838
    @mikedesousa3838 Před rokem

    Did the bigger cams have the adjustable pulleys?and did the stock cams have the stock pulleys?or both had stock pulleys?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Both had stock pulleys. I bought the cams with no pulleys on them. Ideally it needed adjustable pulleys internally and externally to get the most out of it.

  • @ricardosingh3706
    @ricardosingh3706 Před rokem

    Do you not think it was losing abit of power on the first runs cause of the head been lifted?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      It's likely. But I don't think it would have made much more on top. It wasn't lifting to the point where coolant was spewing out. So the lift couldn't have been much, if at all at the boost I was running for the test. It's the gains in the mid range that I was after. If we started going above 1.7 bar boost I think that the numbers would have been skewed a lot more.

  • @mu-eengamieldien7318
    @mu-eengamieldien7318 Před rokem

    Should try and change the turbo housing.

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      I would love to if it was accessible. Might be some special order item or something. That's a last resort but you're right, would spool up quickly with a .48 housing.

  • @keelinrossouw2635
    @keelinrossouw2635 Před rokem

    Remove the cone filter and run open stack, maybe she would be even faster 😁

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      Haha. Im sure it does help but I won't run it without a filter so there's no point. I need to box off the filter so that it doesn't suck in hot air, that should help.

    • @keelinrossouw2635
      @keelinrossouw2635 Před rokem

      @@lowdl or that could work, cause it does get very heated in the bay especially if you're waiting in line or just came from a run back into one, but excited to see how she pulls with the std cams 🤩

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      @@keelinrossouw2635 It's definitely going to be better. That little bit of gains will help when racing. I mostly need that for my 3rd gear shift. That's the only time I fall into that section of the powerband.

  • @saeedmoses5444
    @saeedmoses5444 Před rokem

    What is your setup motor wise on your golf 4 station wagon is it down pipe

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +2

      It's very basic.
      Stage 1 TMC Remap
      Polo TDI PD100 Turbocharger
      Decat and Muffler Delete
      Race Pipe
      EGR Delete

    • @saeedmoses5444
      @saeedmoses5444 Před rokem

      @@lowdl thanks very much love the content

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      @@saeedmoses5444 thanks Saeed 🙌🏽

  • @carbonehouseholdcarbone8110

    I have questions....First cams. Do the cam lift and duration differ on the cams or mostly just duration? locally made or imported?
    Exhaust mani.... is the runner larger in diameter to the port sizes or the same in size? might it not be easier to change to a different size /make snail maybe smaller exhaust side on the snail?
    Side shafts / cv's... any plans this side?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem +1

      The cams have more lift as well. They're Estas billets that was locally made. The box only shows duration and not lift. We can measure the lift so that's something I'll check now that they're out. The spec I assume is similar to cat cams 3664.
      Exhaust mani has 42mm runners. So quite a bit larger than the exhaust port. The hot side options are limited. It starts at 0.49 but then jumps to 0.72. I went with the 0.72 because I didn't want excessive back pressure when we start to lean on it. After doing my research, it seemed like the 1.8T guys liked the 0.72.
      Shafts and CV's will be upgraded after the performance upgrades are done. I'll go with bigger inner CV's and custom shafts.

  • @061garage
    @061garage Před rokem

    Nothing about vvt?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Vvt was enabled for both cams tested.

  • @VWPirates
    @VWPirates Před rokem

    Is the head stock?

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Yes the head is completely stock. I just fit the cams because I assumed that's how you make more power 😅

  • @NOVAENGINS9252
    @NOVAENGINS9252 Před rokem

    Those engines really don't respond to much more that 300° cams and a proper can set is close to R20,000 because you have to import it

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      That's true. 👍🏽

  • @unlocked3054
    @unlocked3054 Před rokem

    Ard cams would be best

    • @lowdl
      @lowdl  Před rokem

      Yeah, So I've heard. A little goes a long way.