NEW TREK RAIL 2022- A DEEP DIVE INTO THE NEW RAIL
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NEW TREK RAIL 2022 - A DEEP DIVE LOOK AT THE NEW TREK RAIL_ What are the major differences between the old frame and the new one?
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Great to see a deep dive into the changed geometry. The new reach is actually right where I am at on my current bike so glad to see the change
Great to hear and I say the new changed give so many options to the rider to pick that perfect reach
Sam thanks for this video. I got my Rail last year and then the new models come out so you get the FOMO going. I feel better knowing that my 'old' geometry is better for my trail riding. I got a Rail 7 and added on MRP suspension coil and fork, slowly did parts all year now have AXS which I love.
Thanks mate sweet rail!
Love this review Sam, no nonsense honest practical advice. Keep up the good work pal 👍🏻
Thanks Daniel it really means a lot some times I get tired of the grind but these comments really Help!
Man, you've come so far! Great to see your channel growing! So, can riders make up the reach difference with a stem and bar swap? Keep the phenom reviews coming captain!
Mate thanks so much for the kind words I fight everyday for where Iam and I love these words so thanks! Actually a shorter stem will make you feel more comfortable on the bike but the wheel base want change. I would try and stick to a 40-50mm stem and get the right reach. Also a shorter stem gives you less weight over the front which in return will give you less front wheel traction. Again thanks for the kind words if you have anymore just ask!
Such a good, very insightful and helpful review. I have 20’ Rail 9.7 large fully dialed/customized to me over past year (170/157 coil w/Luftkappe on fork, Sprindrex adjustable coil for rear). TRP DH-EVO brakes, DH tread, 200 dropper. At 5’9.5” in height, the older geo in large with shorter reach and WB is perfect for everything riding (trail, free ride, some DH, etc). New battery looks good, but I decided just to buy another 625w battery to swap out as needed at ride, since never too far from car at local trail centers.
Thanks mate thar rails sounds perfect 👍 both are great bike I think it comes done to fit for the rider in the reach!
Loved the comparisons with the numbers ,I was comparing them with my Kenevo ….nice one Sam 👍🇬🇧
Big Pants what’s cracking mate? Thanks for the kind words you know I love the numbers haha
I have Rail 9 from a last year and pretty happy with it! ))
The old rail which isn’t that how old is still an absolute beast
Thanks for your insight, mate. I had a hard debate between a few of the Rails and ultimately chose the 2022 9.7 which should arrive soon. I have just picked up a Rail 5 for my wife which she loves. I had looked at the 7 for myself, but it was a minimal price change to get the carbon frame and the upgraded Kiox computer and it's better functionality and ride data. This also gives me budget room to do any upgrades as I see fit. I found the price of the XT (which I truly wanted) was just too high - and I've avoided the issues you had over the 9.8 and 9.9 over the dimensions. I'm looking forward to putting it through it's paces this year. Here's to a great 2022 riding season!
To be honest the old and the new frame are both going to be amazing! Enjoy it mate
Well done in pointing out upgrading the Rail 5 as a good option .
I've owned 2020 Rail 7 and 2021 Rail 7 and sold parts new that I felt were week and fitted the cheapest Zeb 170mm fork ,One up components 210 dropper .
Down graded to micro shift Advent x 10 speed .
I will be going with the Rail 5 for my next bike and fitting Zeb RC Hope Wheels ,One up Dropper post and Downgrading drive train 10 speed Advent X as it just £60 to renew cassette and chain .
Yep I feel dollar for dollar the rail is a fantastic option just change a few parts and you have a race whip’
Seat down, longer reach, probably will feel that, but if your saddle is down you might appreciate more stability. Seat up, longer reach but steeper seat tube angle, might well end up in the body to handlebar position as the old bike.
Nice insight I would love to test a new one against the old one
Hey Sam nice video as always. Could you tell me if the seat tube length is the same? The only complaint on my 2021 9.7 is that the seat still on my balls way when I’m down the steeps in Laguna. Cheers 🍻🤘🤘🤘
I wish I could but those numbers are much harder to find! It’s the stand over height but I find it’s not always right
9k eu that is a lot of money for a zeb plus. Atleast it's full xt. I did not check but ai hop it come with a good rear hub for that price range. In CA money that is a lot....
Hi riders!! Sorry for the spelling mistake!!! The artwork is my job and English is not my first language 😬 😅
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Great work Sam! I'd love to see your take on the new Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay.
Cheers, keep up the great vids!
Spencer so would I wish I could get a hold of a Attitude power-play it looks like an absolute beast
@@SamsBikes Right on. I just picked up a 2022 turbo levo and it was your videos that really helped in my decision. Thanks for all the hard work!
@@SamsBikes ya this vs pole vs trek
@@ROZAY305BOSS hows the turbo levo going buddy, i want one
@@goingfarwebb26 Honestly Dale, its amazing! At first there was definitely some sticker shock, but the amount of joy this bike brings me is amazing!
Great Vid. Having this debate right now. Currently on the Trek 2021 9.8 XT which is a great bike. But finding I'm riding more downhill/enduro now & I am right on the edge of what the bike is capable of. Apparently on the new version the front can go to a 170mm (so 170/150) & the 750w would give more miles so I might press the button on the new one, although I've also got an option on the new Giant Reign (which looks very decent value) & the Kelly's F90 Theos (which is a monster)
Thanks mate just been testing the Mondraker and the new bosch motor is better they haven’t advertised it much but it seems to have more power abs next to no rattle which is amazing but is also seems to be more thirsty! Full review coming
@@SamsBikes Interested to hear your views on the Mondraker. Was looking at the Crafty Carbon XR spec with 170/150. The weight at c23kg look good. Spec decent. Geo decent
Just 170mm my 2021 rail 9.8 and Lulftkappe it ,world of difference in suppleness in the beginning of the stroke , mint fully recommend
Well ordered a 9.8xt last Yr was told delivery June 22 then Sept 22 now Sept 23. Trek need to sort there shit out
Yep I hear you but did you need to pay for it up front?
Hello Sam, I think the question is "can you find a Rail 2021 in a bike shop?"
Hahaha good question
Great work.
What would you go better between this rail 2022 and the New heckler Santa Cruz?
Not sure I would go either! I like the old geo rail and the Heckler the battery is falling out.
hey ! Can you compare Rail 2021 to Spesh Levo gen3 ?
currently I ride Rail 9.7 with Zeb, I like it, but I'm wondering if Levo g3 is a bit more dh orientated bike ? (especially with adjustable geo, HA up to 63.5 and mullet setup)
Yep it’s easy Rails is fast Levo is fun! Levo can be a trails bike or trail enduro bike 🚲 Levo wins for me
I'm waiting for 2023 Orbea Rise H15 150/160 suspension 625 removable battery with current weight of the bike and same price 😉😁.
I like your videos👍
Sounds like a rad bike 🚴 let’s see
Do you think the longer reach would enable a rider that was just a little to long in the arms for the medium be able to fit on a medium rather than being forced to a large.
Really hard to tell mate
Ebike market is growing...when do we see the prices drop..?
It’s a sellers market unfortunately once the bike shops are full let’s see the prices then
im very surprised trek havent sunk that display into the top tube instead of it looking stuck on
Meet you and me both really can’t understand why it’s still on the handlebars all the downtube it should be stuck into the tube
It's probably got to do with the premium feature lock option.
I bought one of these late 21 from summit bicycle to replace my monster
21 XTR rail 9.9 and they took my money sent me a 2021 exact same bike I
already had. so Im sticking with 21 Build is up on my channel its pretty serious.
Also a year later my rail 9.9 is still crushing it.
Just for clarity...is the new 750Wh batter the same physical dimensions as the 625Wh battery in my 2021 9.8XT Rail? Contemplating just buying a second battery to carry. That said, byb the time I've done a (approx.) 50km trail ride with (approx.) 1,800m of climbing (using Tour mode), I'm empty enough myself regardless of what the battery's like!
NO. Not going to work.
Sorry Darren the new system isn’t backwards compatible, 750 is a bigger battery
What do you guys think is the Better bike
Scott ransom 910
Rail 9.8 xt
And why
Haven't Norcon done a 900wh battery, super beefy
Yep your right
The new bike would be a better choice for bigger riders . The extra battery compensates for more weight. At 150 pounds my old rail has plenty of range 😎
I'm pretty keen on mulleting my 2021 Rail. Who's done it and do you rate it?
Lots of people try it and let me know
I really like the Rail, very capable bike but that big opening at the side of the carbon frame for the battery cover, makes me question the long term rigidity of the frame. I would prefer the battery integrated into the frame like Specialized does! So, I am either going with the new Levo or the Scott Ransom (aluminum is ok), and even that Kelly’s Theos f90 looks amazing! Also, I am really curious how that Mondraker Crafty XR rides and overall performance of the bike! The choice is getting tough for me, March is when I am ordering my new bike! Cheers Sam!!!
Hi mate thanks for the kind words, I totally understand what you’re saying but I’ve never heard or seen a trek rail break. I think the bikes are very strong, there are so many options right now that’s why you need to watch samsbikes haha
@@SamsBikes I have been watching samsbikes since day 1!🤙🏻
If you're going to spend over 2500 to get the trek rail 5 up to spec, why wouldn't you just buy the Trek Rail 9?
Hi im 5.9ft what best size for me ? M or L
Why would they need to increase the reach in order for a bigger battery when you can have the same size 750w battery in a small and medium frame, which has much smaller reach. Also the reach between 2021 and 2022 medium frames is almost identical. The large seems to be different 🤔
Not sure what is going on but it’s too long for a large trail bike in my opinion
Sam 🤗😍how does it compare to levo Gen 3😉???????please give a little response 🙏
Oh dude that’s such a hard question! I think in a race the rail is faster but depends how tight those corners are but 💯 the levo is more fun and tunable
ok u may have talked me out of the newer version.
Haha sorry it’s all about fit!
Larger battery in expensive bikes: $9000 bikes should have 10 KW batteries.😀
Bosch!
Yep sorry that was a Typo but thanks for pointing it out
Name of the motor factory is BOSCH! Not BOSH🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
😬sorry! That was my job! I’m Spanish...but I wont make that mistake again! ☺️
Yep sorry that was a typo but thanks for pointing it out
She’s a brick house!!!
I will subscribe and like if you retire that bloody left arm constantly driving every word home!!
Haha 😂 you try talking in front of a camera and making it look easy it’s so not easy but I’ll try
@@SamsBikes great work man, love your content and I got a lot out of it! Thanks for having a sense of humour too!