What Happened to CJ After GTA San Andreas?
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
- Here's what happened to CJ 'Carl Johnson' from GTA San Andreas AFTER the events of the story in Grand Theft Auto SA? Where is he in modern day and what easter eggs & secrets have been found that provide us a clue as to where CJ is in GTA 5 and beyond? is CJ dead or alive? #gta
As it turns out, there are multiple secrets added by Rockstar Games in GTA V that give us more context to CJ's whereabouts.
0:00 - Intro
0:27 - Liberty City
1:44 - CJ Hints The Future
4:05 - Secret GTA 5 Conversations
4:30 - Lifeinvader Post
4:45 - Lamar & Franklin Talk CJ
5:40 - CJ Easter Eggs
6:55 - Carl Johnson is Dead?
8:28 - Sweet's Fate - Hry
Considering the fact that sweet wasn't happy with CJ not backing up the hood anymore it's possible that CJ continued he's popular life while sweet refused to be part of it and he's not living in good conditions
That's a good theory!
Sweet only cares about the hood.He can't see that there is more than ganglife.
Realistically, if Sweet died at any point after 1992, which was likely considering he wanted to stay bangin, CJ likely would've given up on Grove Street once his brother died. Based on how CJ left the gang behind before the game and during game, it seemed to me CJ's onyl connection to the gang was through his family.
@@DrModGTAGTA sanandreas and GTA 5 took place in different universe
@@aromalja9861yall keep saying this lie but why would they mention grove street families anyway? What about lazlow jones who’s appeared in almost every GTA ?
I feel like Sweet is most def the one who returned to the gutters. He seemed more likely to fall back into his old ways due to him having no initiative on getting out. CJ was waaay too adamant about getting out and staying out.
You're using it in its original meaning... The way that the NPC used it was not an insult... "OG Johnson is gutta than a Mf" means "he's a real gangsta" "he's a go getter" he makes things happen as far as getting money, getting rid of his enemies, taking back his hood when needed... Being "Gutta" is not an insult
@@SweetWaterGamez your gutta then a mf
@@SweetWaterGamezliterally just made a comment explaining this!
@@SweetWaterGamezit's different across the us lmaoo, ask somone from an LA hood maybe they'll know.
@@LegendGamer-dj8om. Yeah my cousin. He's from LA, and every time he comes to visit us, we catch up on plenty of things. One of those things is slangs
“Gutta” doesn’t have to mean poor or homeless lol it can mean gruff/badass. So the npc could just be like either Sweet or Cj is a legend
Thank you only person correctly identified what gutta means
Exactly
I was laughing hard af when he said that
exactly!! this what happens when you let yt ppl tellin our stories “decoding” our lingos 😂😂😂😂😂😂.
I was getting ready to say the same thing lol. I considered turning the video off after that, but it was already towards the end 😂
If I were to venture a guess, things got much worse in the hood and CJ got fed up with the hood lifestyle and Sweet’s denial over the Grove Street Families. CJ left and got a better home and continued to be Madd Dogg’s manager and partner in the Casino business. Sweet eventually died in a gang shootout which caused CJ to slip into despair. But with some help from Kendal and Caesar, he eventually bounced back.
Meanwhile the Families decided to end the war with the Ballas by giving them Grove Street behind the Johnsons backs?
Wrong not the same universe Jesus Christ Rockstar admitted years ago and you guys are still talking about this crap.
Well this could be canon but maybe MAYBE there not in the same universe
@@NoehPD listen there’s no could be or maybe there’s 100 percent fact not stop questioning this boy.
Probably moved to San Fierro with them.
Nice theory but the word gutta don't always mean poor. Gutta can be interpeted as "Don't take no shit". Basically the same thing as "Real" or "Gangsta". At least that's what it is on the east coast so I'm guessing it's the same on the West coast too.
But "gangstas" are guttas (poor), look at the mules or the disposable hitman that think they’re someone.
Makes sense for it to be “don’t take shit” because CJ was un loyal to his hood for most of SA. He probably did just move to L.C and was considered “gutter” by the families.
@@greasygames. You're still using it in its original meaning... The way that the NPC used it was not an insult... "OG Johnson is gutta than a Mf" means "he's a real gangsta" "he's a go getter" he makes things happen as far as getting money, getting rid of his enemies, taking back his hood when needed... Being "Gutta" is not an insult
gutter mean, conniving, lying, cheating, type ish
English man trying to explain west coast gang culture from a video game lol
So I said that "Gutter" means living in a bad way but it turns out this is quite the opposite and the word has a different meaning. Anyways, besides that im glad you all enjoyed the video! 😂
I knew that I was like who gave bro the wrong definition
Gutter basically means ruthless
I was about to say. Because "real gutta bitch" means Hood. basically someone you don't want to fuck with.
Came here just to correct that lol
lol U not from the hood
CJ went the 50 route. Gangster turned entrepreneur
In my perspective, this is what really happened:
If you remember in the last scene after killing officer Timpeny, everyone was celebrating Madd dogs record label. Kendl then said they could go and live in San fiero or Las venturous, but sweet said nah they have to take care of the hood. Just when CJ was heading to the door, Sweet asked where he was going, CJ then responded that he is going to drive around the hood and check on things. So after that scene CJ was outside the house. And what's left to do in the game than to take over all of the hoods. So this is what he did just to show respect to Sweet. I believe after this he then called it "Quits" with the gang life and went to take care of his businesses, because remember throughout the game he made a whole lot of connections so he was basically "Rich". And if you remember also, whenever you move far away from the hood you get a signal that "YOUR HOOD IS UNDER ATTACK". this is when you are too lazy to come and get it back, so the other gangs just take up everything. I'm sure this is how they got to Sweet, maybe he just surrendered to them or just ran away and is now dirt poor.
CJ made it clear that he's never going back there ever again cause he is done with hood life, he is now living the good life.
Gutter doesn't mean poor
If you take over all the hoods they never come under attack again because the other gangs become eradicated. Either way GTA SA and GTA V are not connected they made them separate because if there were connected there would only be Grove Street gangsters in GTAV with no conflicts and a story with no conflict isn't very fun
The Families fell apart after the demigod with a minigun got tired of shootin' ballas lmao.
*"Tenpenny" 😅
I'll accept this ending.
Gutter is a slang term in the united states for being hood, street, a strong person with an indigent background.
Exactly
😂😂😂 I was waiting to see this comment
Then why not just use hood or street... Those actually make sense.
Not really a US thing either, because I'm from the US and we use gutter as poor, homeless, or otherwise trailer trash type. If you're in the gutter, then you're in a bad place in your life.
So at best it's a regional thing.
@@Master_Yoda1990 My bad bro, I assumed you were not American due to the accent.
Being poor and indigent, in a bad place is gutter, but they dont mean hes dead just that he comes from there in the specific example you used.
I think he is a really succesfull businessman, since has a share in a Casino, managing a popular rapper, owns his little business in San Fiero etc. Hopefully he also left the ghetto life since all the enemies are gone, and Sweet is able to manage the gang without CJ.
We would really need a proper 3D Era Sequel Game...
i don’t think a sequel is necessary just let your imagination run wild that’s what you do once you beat the game
Manage what gang? Groove st seems dead to me LOL
Yes, the HD universes are separate from 3D universes. However, both can have crossovers and therefore the story and life of CJ can still be historical fact. There's plenty of characters from both such as Love Fist, Mad Dogg and Lazlow
Wrong.
no @@trevorwalsh9443 you're just a hater bruh - you obviously never saw Love Fist in GTA 5 or lazlow, explain that
@@DrModGTA I’m not I hater I’m someone who pays attention and actually Believes what the people who Created the game that saids it’s in a different universe facts boy now sitdown the fuck down you know nothing boy.
Wait Lovefist was in gta v, I mean I saw trevors lovefist t shirt but did they alpear as characters?
@@DrModGTA A poor baby delete my comments what the truth hurts facts boy sitdown.
The term gutter can also mean Dangerous/ cut throat/ straight up gangster
What a timeless masterpiece 😭
God I remember how late at night I used to play San Andreas and one night I was caught red handed by my dad,and I just cannot explain how madly I was in love with San Andreas and I will never stop loving it
I was the same way😂
Same 😆
U literally reposted the video u made in 2020 and changes the thumbnail to 2024
Now I'm interested to know what happened to Claude and Tommy too 😂
Claude was killed by Catalina, im afraid.
Tommy went big time by the events of SA
Claude killed Catalina tf you talking about
Don’t you know the GTA 3 story
@@DAVIP10 Claude killed Catalina when she's on a helicopter in the final mission
@@AnNy-mx6tl Yup, i know, but my coment was sarcasm
We all know Rockstar as a marketing genius rather than a detailed story-teller.
They wanted to create a favorable situation where people like you makes theories on social media and stimulate each other.
Also, a random npc is not a reliable source, at 7:14 realistically he's just saying popular opinions, maybe the version that the families wants everyone to know as they move out the scene without getting disturbed ever again. This confirms how much of a fog this situation can be 😂
It’s really cool to see that carl went from some random dude helping his gang to a business man working in every company your can think of, that’s a big transformation if I have ever seen one
I think CJ moved on with his life. He did what he could for Sweet and the hood but there is only so much you can do for people who want to stay in poverty. He could've bought the block but there would be no point.
OG Johnson can be the name of the “smoke” & Gutter can mean something positive, like “he’s hard” or “he’s street”.
Great video keep them coming
I think Sweet was eventually killed, CJ killed those responsible, and then just left Grove Street behind and never looked back, it's like CJ said, gang life (the hood) has never done anything for CJ, the only family he'd have left is Kendl, and Kendl was actually good at being a businesswoman, she had no interest in GSF.
So yeah, I think he just continued running his businesses and acting as Mad Dogg's manager.
Gutter doesnt only mean homeless or dead.. if you say someone is Gutter, could also means they grew up poor or in the trenches, and still lives a Gutter life (Gang, Trap, Thieves, Robberys, while still in the hood)
Thank u🤙🏿😭
It's different across the u.s, lmao. It could mean both
Gutter as in Gangsta
i second that meaning@@litonevacomearound6042
I want to believe he's talking about Sweet.
CJ fucked off to who knows where, but Sweet has always been Family.
It would make my love for GTA if Rockstar can bring back CJ in some way.
Probably make him a rich man who sends the main characters on missions.
He deserves that recognition. He went through a lot too
Yeh word, like the train and bike smg mission 🤣
@@ayogee-hg6wv 🤣🤣🤣
Rockstar tends to like to leave things open ended. Maybe that's why San Fierro and Las Venturas aren't in the game, because if we saw them, things wouldn't be as open ended, one way or the other.
SF and LV not in the game because it would be impossible to create such a big world for ps3/x360, gta5 already pushed those systems to their limits
@@V-95K how could ps2 do it but ps4 can't?
@@knightwolf5006because the newer console versions would be way bigger and part of different canon. They squeezed all the power out of the ps3/x360 with the gta 5 map
@@V-95Kthats what probably gave them the idea
@@knightwolf5006 dude, look at the graphics, textures, details, animations etc. of gta SA, and then gta 5. There is also a video created by GTA5 developer here on CZcams, he explains everything.
I cannot get enough of gta sa videos. makes me feel amazing. very great video
yo I Just found ur channel 20 mins ago and already see Very Good and Very Readable Videos!
Thank you!
Found ur channel 15 min ago but I love the content
Thank you!
I loved this video Dr Mod! Thanks for creating these interesting videos for us.
You taught me something new. Great video, very insightful 👍👍
all GTA V references are irrelevant since the HD and 3D universes are separate stories, rockstar confirmed it, so no matter how many easter eggs and references they make in 4/5/6 it will never affect CJ in SA
U showing us that Easter egg of them dudes riding bikes gave me chills down my spine😂😂
Great vid new sub 👍🏾
Good work bro
Rockstar confirmed that every protagonist is alive except Victor Vance and Johnny Klebitz.
Great video but I could have sworn that the 3D and HD universes do not cross according to Rockstar Games.
I appreciate the effort you put into this. CJ still out there stuntin’ on em is the way I see it
I think the NPC was just spitting slang towards Sweet since he used to be top of the Grove but now he's no longer there. Hence the turn of phrase he'd used.
I think CJ in a life of luxury or at least living away from gang life. Sweet could be the one referent, being dead or living a bad life. Considered that Sweet is always about the hood, while CJ isn’t really about the hood and that why.
He run away to Liberty City, not just the death of his brother Brian. Away from the gang life, this is what I really think, he wasn’t going stay at first.
Until he got dragged into doing things by Tennpenny and dealing, Big Smoke on the drugs scheme and everything.
Why are we don’t know what happened to CJ, it not 100% confirmed that he could be dead. I could believe that it could be Sweet dead, becauseto because the gang thing as he did not want to live that lifestyle.
Because that’s how he grew up and probably die that way, the saying is you live by the hood you died by the hood.
2:48 is the best part 😂😂
Carl Johnson 25 (1992), 46 (2013), 55 (2022), now 57.
Franklin's age in 2015 was 25, now 34.
Michael's age in 2015 was 45, now 54.
Trevor's age in 2015 is unknown, now near 55.
It means Carl Johnson is senior to them. In the " END OF THE LINE" Mission, at the last part, they composed the song and because of that, they go to Las Vegas or leave the country for the music, they are roaming the world. So, because of this, the Ballas gang takes advantage and captures the city. I forgot the mission name but when Jimmy and the Franklin were going together to chill and hangout, Jimmy was talking about Groove Street and Urban Legends ( CARL JOHNSON, SWEET, HIS SISTER, BIG SMOKE, RIDER, etc.). Might be I am wrong but this is my opinion.
What's the track ID that kicks in on 1:20?
3D and HD are in separate Universes. They can do some easter eggs here and there but in the end, it is just that...an easter egg.
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Nah. Lazy excuse only clowns believe
Aight so how do u explain Claude and misty from gta 3 being in gta online as potential parents?
@@LouisTLW same characters, differnet continuity, basically a reboot, easter eggs & nothing more, R* have confirmed this man
It should be noted that none, if so, only a small minority of the events of GTA SA took place in the HD Universe, as the GTA SA story takes place in the 3D Universe, and events rarely ever cross over apart from minor lesser spoken about ones such as the Australian-American War, or Lazlow's rise and fall in American media. While CJ, Sweet, Ryder, and Big Smoke all most certainly existed in the HD Universe, their lives and events probably took different trajectories.
In the case of the Grove Street Families in the HD Universe, I believe that they existed as a normal set, akin to that off the Chamberlain Gangster Families or Carson Avenue Families, they did not rise to the glory of their 3D Universe counterpart. They probably had a few OG's putting in work but it never went any further than that, GSF were never seen as the unifying identity of the entirety of the Families, rather just another set, and once all the OG's left the life, the youth of Grove Street, who probably had no relations to this GSF, decided to align themselves with the Ballas, as they felt no connection to the Families which had more of a presence in Chamberlain Hills and Strawberry in the HD Universe, rather than Davis (Ganton in the 3D Universe).
Information presented in this video is why I consider CJ Genius Tier. CJ is of higher intellect than most protagonists, he just happens to be hood-born.
Hey man where did you find the song you put in the intro? It plays during the final mission where everybody is gathered in CJ's house but everywhere I looked it said Rockstar hasn't officially released it.
Backing Beat 2
The guy who made released it
But in HD universe we only have easter eggs right ? HD universe dont share the same things with the 3D right ?
Honestly Carl probably died of some form of cancer after being exposed to flaming asbestos in Burning Desire, inhaling an entire weed farm in Are you going to San Fierro, The Green Goo, the crack factory explosion, ECT.
Na he’s alive chillin
2:28 sweet really got the Rockstar icon on it
It's quite interesting to see how deep it all goes
My guess is that CJ is off building businesses with the help of woozie while sweet is prolly dead, or CJ got assassinated by the mafia.
GTA San Andreas and gta 5 are not connected, they are different universes
I’ve been praying for rockstar to bring CJ back. San Andreas will forever be my favorite gta!!! 💪🏽💯
Keep up the good work Dr. Mod
It's two possibilities
1) either he is dead
2) or he moved out from grove streets after the events of GTA san Andreas to live peacefully since if was in 90s
That explains how the grove was taken over by gangs
U need to do your homework on street lango before doin these. Gutter means raw authentic and strict.. NOT poor or that other shit
I Hope We Can See Him Somehow In GTA 6.
5:43 I have never seen that before, IV is probably still in my top 2
When I heard the npc say og Johnson I assumed he was referring to OG BOBBY JOHNSON. I thought it was an Easter egg for him not San Andreas lol. I might be an idiot
Sweet coming out of jail and being like "aw, the hood" is my least favourite part of the game. Just go enjoy being rich with your brother
Why I think CJ is only one still alive. He was not gonna fight a dying cause, wgerw as sweet would.
Bro, remember the moment at the beginning of the game when a drunk man in green walks by Michael. Why was Rockstar shown this moment? Is this CJ's own brother? Then a similar man appears in the mission where Lamar and Franklin have a firefight with Vagos. There is one more point that many have missed. Michael was familiar with Toni Cipriani and this was his friend. When Michael asks Lester if there are any boys who will help with the robbery. Lester calls various names. Michael then says Toni name
You know to your heart this game is a masterpiece when people still talk about it today.
This was always my biggest problem with Sweet and the san andreas story… it takes one driving point and DRIVES IT HOME to unrealistic levels.
YES some dudes just cant say no to the life. Growing up in Chicago southside, i can tell u firsthand I know A BUNCH of dudes still there years later never growing.
So for sweet to wanna stay true to the grove i totally get. But EVEN THE MOST HARD HEADED DUDES will be pursuaded to let it go given the right circumstances!
Okay right. So your two younger brothers died. One of their deaths was soo traggic that it forced your youngest brother to flee the state. And he ONLY comes back because they do a hit on your mom. All of your commanders are either dead, retired or lost to the crack epidemic. And u KNOW that your biggest commander (smoke) has been trying to convince you to take a deal and work under ten penny. You refuse that and become a police target, which leads to the big family gang meeting to reunite all the families getting raided by the cops and eventually u get ambushed and arrested while also almost bleeding to death! And now your in prison and behind the prison walls u find out that your last two life lines betrayed u, and your only free because your brother made a connection with an FBI agent that wants to take ten penny down.
THROUGHOUT IT ALL. Your brother ends up becommimg a millionaire with a thriving car shop in the next state over, and a ownership stock in a billion dollar casino, both in states that the old rival gangs will never touch.
And after ALL OF THAT and a clear chance to start a new and just let it go to the new generation , WHILE ALSO STILL GETTING TO WATCH TEN PENNY self destruct. Instead he wants to risk it all and start from scratch🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️. Always hated that part
When they say gutter, that means he's a rider.
Oh okay 👍
Cj is executed 3 months after the event of the game, point blank on the back of the head by a Balla son while eating at the Clucking bell of the missions "Drive by". The idea from the developers notes, is that the people that go on the same path as CJ never end well and having in mind the massive amount of people he killed during the game, is honestly not surprising that it came back to bite him in the end. Sweet most likely just moved away before becoming a victim too.
My headcanon is that at some point the Ballas attempted another hit on Sweet (the type that killed Beverley Johnson) and this time they were successful. CJ, who had kept himself firmly out of the Grove Street business, returns to rip through the Ballas until they sue for peace by handing the assassins to CJ. This is CJ's last interaction with the gang stuff and soon, the GSF split into the Families factions we see in GTA 5 and Grove Street ends up as Ballas territories.
The og johnson is in gutter probably means the gangster/criminal side of then is dead
That’s what I was thinking. In the gutter could mean a few different things!
Maybe he Changed the name because of FIB or FBI
Fun fact: check can be seen in gta 5 in a part of the map just a lot shorter (maybe)
He's still in the drive-thru with bigsmoke continously ordering food. It's 2024 and he's still there. 😂
That’s cool and all but GTA SA and V aren’t in the same universe
🤓🤓🤓
Yeah you're, it's a soft reboot as it still mentioned certain events from the past events in san Andreas
There Are Still Mentions Lol Of The Event
They both are in los santos
Gta sa and gta 5 are in different universes
I have to say that GTA 5 was great, but i won´t never forget the large amount of hours that i spent playing SA as a teenager.
Gutta in urban slang can be used as a compliment when applied to somebody. Gutta as in gangsta or bout business, not poor or dead.
Thats not what gutta means, its slang for street
I have a lot of memories with GTA san andreas.
BIG SMOKE death in saddest death in GTA UNIVERSE
Thank you for the Gutta correction lol. I Was like what?
Whats that trap song at 2/3 of the video
GTA V and GTA SA were not different universes ?
they are
Cj is dead , he's buried in the mountains , grave , box and cj all there , u go route 68 to a hse there get the shovel , ride to the grave location and dig , there u find keys to a safe hse in the hood where he used to live
He is not dead
@@aromalja9861 u ever play story mode my friend , look it up dude he's gone
That is a mod 💀
Let's be honest here. Sweet is living in the past. Beyond the gameplay that just spawns Grove Street Gangsters when you need them. In real life there is anything left of the gang after they're betrayed
Anticipated a grand finale, but "What happened to CJ" left me hanging! 🤔
The suspense kept me glued; a sequel from you, perhaps? 🎬
He got killed by Toni Cipriani for the Heist on Salvatore's Casino 😭😭😭
Hes stuck in the 3d universe, thats it lol
That's wild.
6:22 That picture of CJ shows him at Vagos area in Jamestown, IDK if that say something about the lore, but just something i noticed.
Cj be like 4 seconds later out of prison while sweet *takes a hole century*
What happens to cesar and kendl. Where are they now?
Kendl and Cesar apparently been living a family life after that game ended and in my theory they decided to leave the country and head to mexico for a fresh start. Cj would tell cesar to don't let kendl be any danger. I can tell cesar and his gang and kendl are now live in Mexico and had a child together.
That "OG Johnson" could be Sweet. He never agreed with CJ about the hood, CJ built an empire while Sweet just wanted to fall back to the hood because as far as we saw in San Andreas, CJ never quit on his business he always improved and get rich.
My theory is CJ is in Las Venturas operating one of the biggest casinos that he owns. He also runs an Autoshop in San Fierro together with his brother in law.
When this game came out i was 30 and even back then i knew that cj and swet cut scene was powerful good voice acting
Thank you you’re so awesome for this video ❤
It would be dope if CJ is the main plug in GTA VI
On the thumbnail of this video CJ almost looks like Lamont Bentley who played hakeem in moesha. He also played crazy k in tales from the hood too rip to him.
As a man who has GTA 5 on the computer I can confirm that this is true information.
3:36
DAMN!
GTA San Andreas is the best GTA EVER! My childhood right there!
To have CJ in GTA VI would be awesome. Even in a small cutscene or something.
I think he’s alive and well. Cj always had ambitions for more than the street life, I like to think he bailed on Los Santos somehow taking Sweet with him, or when sweet passed leaving the hood behind all together. That’s why i think they call him gutter bc they feel he betrayed them when he left Los Santos. Way i see it Cj’s kicking his feet up right now looking at a nice view poolside
*Where is CJ now!?*
*Always at the bottom of my heart ❤*
let me say something about CJ, CJ made a smart move by giving up that gang life and chased after the money, thats where the true life begins, not no gang life but the wealthy life that started with him when he took out the issues that were preventing him of being successful, i have total really of CJs hustle
GTA SAs is the most realistic life style really for a gang member to make change in their lives
Whatever happpend to him one things for certain it had no conection to GTA V's continuity...