What Happened to CJ after San Andreas ?
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2023
- GTA San Andreas - What Happened to CJ? IS CJ DEAD? .. Carl Johnson's Disappearance Explained!
After the iconic events of GTA San Andreas, CJ, aka Carl Johnson, seemed to vanish without a trace. Now, 13 years later, Los Santos has transformed into a criminal playground, with the Grove Street Families struggling and the Ballas thriving! But where is CJ? Is he dead, and if so, who is his killer?
In this video, we dive into the intriguing saga of CJ's life and speculate on his whereabouts. It all began in 1992 when CJ returned to Los Santos following his beloved mother's tragic murder, leading to a series of dramatic events involving drive-by shootings, drug takedowns, and government activities. His dealings with the FIB secured his and his brother Sweet's freedom, but it also set him on a path to wealth and fame as Madd Dogg's manager, leading to his mysterious disappearance.
GTA SAN ANDREAS, CJ IS DEAD, CJ'S DEATH, AFTER GTA SAN ANDREAS and GTA 5 - Hry
Do you think CJ died? 🤔
I was suppose to drop a video before this and having this close the discussion but I guess the order has been swapped 😂🤙 I’ll drop two videos this week though.
No
@@carljohnson4592(gunclick) Tony Cipriani"think again kid"(BANG)!(SLUMP)!
@@moodyowlproductions4287*Ryder points gun* don't forget about me, Busta *fires into his head*
No He Smoked Most Of His Rivals. He Probably Living In Liberty City Under A Different Name 🗽💯
@@n1ch0l4st8 errrr..no...he is dead..a dead man can't point a gun at someone... remember this
I'm not dead.
Fuck u cj where you at though?
Will you appear in gta 6 in vice city? 😬
Yeah i agree with OG Carl Johnson4592💢
But you're still a Busta.
All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ
If he dies he will always come back from the hospital
If Michael was able to fake death why can’t CJ do same
fucking A+ comment
Honestly CJ could have done that with his connections to toreno, just like michael did with his connections to dave norton
I mean as much as I do wish he would comeback would it be good a plot that he just faked his death the entire time💀💀💀
I think all those theories can be disproved easily. for number 1 The Professionals already covered why Salvatore didnt send Tony to kill him. And for 2 and 3 the 3D and HD universe are completely separate. CJ probably is alive and just in Las Venturus with Woozie because of their Casino business and dropping by Grove Street from time to time or touring around with Mad Dog with him being involved in the record business as well.
I’ll watch his video but just because the professional says something doesn’t make it true or law lol he was wrong about who killed cjs mom when mentioning the Ballas and just because the universes are separate doesn’t mean the story isn’t the same they literally contradict themselves by putting Og Loc, Cj and The truth in gta 5’s story .. literally placed them in the story .. however I do believe he would’ve been closely connected to Woozie after all this time and working with him clearing whatever troubles came along the way 💯
the 3D and HD universe are not separate that's what thy WANT YOU to think
@@cydragon2.099hey are separate as the 3D Universe Mafia Families don't exist in the HD Universe. But you can say that certain events of the 3D Universe occurred in the HD Universe with certain elements being changed due to characters not existing or in the HD Universe. With some exceptions like Madd Dogg, OG Loc, Donald Love, and so on. Only difference being their stories being different to what we know of their 3D universe counterparts like Madd Dogg retiring prior to GTA 3 but in GTA 5 he's still active in the rap game
@@MJH129The mafia do exist in the HD Universe you must haven't played GTA 4
@@Nixkrude79 did you not understand what I said? I said the "3D UNIVERSE" Mafia didn't exist in the HD Universe, not that the Mafia didn't exist at all.
4:25 makes no sense for CJ to still be in the hood 25 years later this man literally owns a garage,a casino and is a manager to a famous rapper,what he need to stay in the hood for?
Because sweet told him too
@LScentral realistically I think Sweet would be dead or long gone after 1992 up to GTA V,even though V is a different universe it explains why Ballas have Grove Street...
@@LScentral na
For CJ to come back there would be allot of money to be made
Depends
Johnny was a buster. CJ ain't dead. Worst case he used money and connections to disappear. He's an icon I really doubt R* would just roll on him after one game, he's probably sitting somewhere in GTA 5 still hidden to this day.
Personally I do not think The mob or Tommy had enough power to kill Cj. We forget cj has taken on the LSPD+Noose, Army, the Navy, the Airforce, the government, two rival gangs. And not to mention he’s Allies with the Varrios and the Triads. No way the can touch him sorry.
That's like saying victor is untouchable yet he dies like a dog anyway, it's GTA anything can happen out there
@@malletUsergaming nah that’s terrible writing..if VC he gets clapped so easily but in VCS he can run through entire drug lords operations like nothing…stupid.
@@neegachu9074 nope it's just a realistic outlook on the criminal lifestyle
@@malletUsergaming he died to like 2 bullets. He would be wearing body armor. His death makes absolutely no sense
@@Remix2366 did you see what guns they were carrying? That would obliterated anyone lol
The best way to describe post gta SA is "Everyone besides sweet moved on with their lives becoming sucessful, sweet died in a drive by 2 years after SA as the only idiot to stay in the hood after being given a chance to leave"
CJ was speaking the truth in mission 100, he left grove when he was needed the most. So he fixed every problem he indirectly/directly caused and secured a better life for everyone he cared about. Kendell/caesar are operating the garage, woozie/cj are operating the casino, cj/madd dogg and cj/the brits are going on tours, CJ ended the corruption in CRASH ruining lives, and ended the drug empire that ruined not only grove street, but every "hood" in san andreas. Topping it all off, post gane Toreno is making sure no one messes with cj after the heavy lifting he did being one/two 3 letter agents in gta to actually honor their end of the deal. CJ offered everyone a chance to move on to have a healthy life, and everyone took it besides sweet. After the actual leaders left the hood, weaker leaders like sweet, stretch, etc filled the power vaccum which lead to the shitty hood seen in V.
I agree. After the raid on Big Smoke's drug factory, a lot of gang members died, including a lot of the GSF and associates. This created a power vacuum with all gangs and even worse for Grove Street since they are already severely weakened before CJ's return and it all probably blew up after Tenpenny's death since despite the drug problems he was causing, he was the one keeping all the gangs on a leash. CJ, Kendal, Cesar and the rest probably knew what was coming and decided it's not worth it to stay. So it's either Sweet finally swallows his pride and leaves or stays put and dies for a lost cause.
@@dekoldrick Sweet deep down knew he was fighting a losing battle I don't know why he wanted to stay in the hood too badly right when CJ came back and started to put in work eventually Tenpenny knowing it which is what lead to him getting arrestee and CJ getting set off to the country side to disrupt the two from function they should've done something else first to take out crash.
I know I’m super late but omg I’m glad somebody finally said it! I’ve read fanfics (yes I’m that person sometimes lol) about sweet dying because he wouldn’t leave the hood. CJ made a way for everyone to leave but sweet just wouldn’t do it.
Plus looking back Sweet is also why GSF became a failing gang. He lost control, somehow managed to completely be unaware of a drug empire being built right under his nose by his own childhood best friend, then tried to act like a leader when CJ was the one that built GSF back up as much as possible. Worst gang leader ever
@@ladytionne1 fr mannnn
Literally none of these theories make any sense besides him becoming a legitimate businessman.
There is no concrete mention of CJ outside of San Andreas but at the end of San Andreas, CJ had:
1. Millions of dollars in his pocket
2. A car garage in San Fierro
3. One third ownership of a Casino in Las Venturas
4. Ownership of several residential and commercial properties
5. Manager of Madd Dogg's rap career who was one of the most popular artists in Los Santos
6. Connection to a powerful Government Agent, Mike Toreno
I think CJ is just fine and went legit sometime after the events of the game.
Yeah like I get most of rockstars themes consist a lot of not happy endings but realistically when you look at everything that CJ’s got at the end, it wouldn’t make any sense for him to just end up dead with all the connections he has. Even toward the end of SA. When he’s talking to Sweet and trying to show him all that he’s achieved, sweet so focused on the set, Kendall was the one really letting Carl know there’s more to him than being grove street
@@SCSAsJortsdoesn't matter, victor and johnny still die despite their efforts, it's not out of the possibility for CJ to die too.
@@malletUsergaming The thing is Toni didn't even kill CJ lmao. He just went to kill rival gangster different mafia
Rockstar games are geniuses, and sometimes foolish.
The lore behind GTA San Andreas alone is enough for them to make ANOTHER game which takes place years after the events of GTA:SA.
This game would answer ALL of the questions fans have had, while expanding on the GTA San Andreas universe.
I don't think Rockstar would wanna pay what the actors would probably want to reprise their roles. And Maylay wasn't happy with how his pay was handled for SA so idk if he'd come back.
Sadly, it’s never going to happen. I think people are more likely to accept that CJ died some time after San Andreas or just walked away from the criminal world when it got too much.
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Stories
@@almightyshane If that’s going to happen, then gta 6 will have to be such a colossal mess of a failure for them to do the 3d universe again.
Toni killed a rival Mafia Made Man, not a Gangster, and even if Salvatore wanted to send killas, it really wouldn't be easy to kill CJ, since it is implied that in 1994, CJ would've probably taken over San Andreas, and their GSF's allies are shown to be very powerful, and there was also the GSF Gangsters all around the place
Not to mention that he has the triads and varrios on his side too
@@iambloopy what part of "his allies" you don't understand? "His Allies" literally means by the Triads and the Varrios!
@@n1ch0l4st8 you mad bro?
@@iambloopy you retarded bro?
@@n1ch0l4st8bipolar episode dude?
He moved out of the hood he always spoke about it in missions & moved into the rap game
I’ve always thought from day 1 that CJ was/is Franklins Uncle/Dad
there are definitely related to each other for sure there is no doubt in that but I'm guessing they didn't want to focus on SA but rather something else and leave his family connection to being a mystery
A great one Holmes! Maybe I should create a movie about this 😉
Holy shit i just realized CJ has fingers in that Fruntalot poster. Is it his GTA IV render model?
The only man who has seriously reasons to kill CJ and could do that is Mike Toreno and you know why..
Yeah,but he probably couldn't
@@hofnarrtheclown the cia tool hundreds of attempts to assassinate a guy in a exponentially poor country,only to die of old age. And then there's a reason toreno didn't pull those field ops himself. And them CJ killed some of his buddies. CJ is basically the Big Boss of the gta universe. Some washed up CIA guy doesn't have a chance.
CJ is more skilled than most of the world's elite units,yet he's literally just a guy from the hood. Have you even tried power scaling him?
@Remix2366
Are you referring to Castro???
Castro was the president of a country, with top security lol....
The CIA has assassinated presidents......
The Mob would have a hard time killing him, the government less.
@@Remix2366"ya but couldnt" bro hes CIA cj is just some black guy stfu
Toreno wouldn't have killed CJ. Him and Norton are the only 3 letter agents in gta that actually honor their end of the deal by not letting anyone screw with the main character post game. If toreno was going to kill CJ, he wouldn't have springed sweet out of jail and told Carl he was out of his life forever.
Love the channel keep it up ❤
My head canon is that CJ told Sweet to go eat shit with the whole hood thing and moved on and Sweet again was his usual shitty leader so grove again lost power and sweet died. You can see some things in hd gta that gives implications that CJ became a businessman.
My opinion after "CJ" killed "Tenpenny" i believe "CJ" became a celebrity. I believe he moved in "Mad Dog's Mansion" & started his business adventures. Hes keeping an eye on his San Ferriero, Las Ventura investments. His Bone Yard Air Strip, His dealings commercial advertisements living the remainder of his life off the grid. He didnt die, return back to Liberty City nor return to gang bangin'. He again became a local celebrity.
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FUN FACT: TenPenny survived
@@sullyqureshi676Tenpenny died. His body was mutilated by homeless people heard on the news radio.
@@sullyqureshi676and got arrested
@@yohannspider9001 nah bro what? in the end of the line he dies and on lspr radio you can even hear about his death. Dont be smokin ryder's water fool
By the end of sanadreas Grove Street owned every territory , well at least you have the option to. Even if you don't take them all over you still have to take over alot to find big smokes location. Apperanlty the 3d and HD universes are not the same , they don't go together. However I would like to think they could be in the same universe, but apperanlty not. I honestly don't think cj died , unless of natural causes , health issues or something. I mean he survived so much in sanadreas lol if that didn't take him down what could ? Just my opinion
and 2d universe.
Cj may just be hiding from the cops
He probably legally change his name to start a fresh life and forget all about his past. Sweet has living a grove life and he probably killed off during before gta 5. He might've died from a gang war. Kendl and cesar decides to move to mexico and start a life there. The triads has now making money and start a new casino called the diamond casino and resort.
@@hofnarrtheclown yh such a happy ending with sweet dying
You didn’t mention the billboard with cj picture on it on gta 5.. he’s very much alive my guy..
What billboard? I don’t recall that
that’s in gta 4
@@LScentralthere’s a billboard in gta 4 with a model on it who looks like cj
@@yourlocalpoopdealer5176 and that is cj
It Seems Not Much Connection With GTA San Andreas And GTA 5 World. Maybe In This Universe Families Never Had Grove Street? But True CJ Would've Tooken Out Enough Baller Spots They Wouldn't Be That Deep In GTA 5 Its Way More Ballers Than Families 💚💯
Toni never killed CJ,he killed a made man and fled liberty city,why this rumor existed to begin with?
It's Worst Than "👻 Is Still Alive" 😭💯
@@J2WICESOLIDMOVEMENTit’s not really a bad theory
@@J2WICESOLIDMOVEMENTLOL
@@LScentralexactly, Toni killing CJ makes sense in a lot of ways and adds complexity to the story. Funny how Rockstar have never out
Right deny this theory.
how the fuck did you get a ryder shanking cj scene that is fucking awesome holy shit
Its character swapping in a different game with mods
It’s Toni’s
CJ could have probably settled down in Las Venturas or San Fierro, since there isn't much keeping CJ in Los Santos other than Sweet.
Maybe we'll know for certain if another GTA game takes place in San Fierro or Las Venturas in the future.
With GTA 6 we might know more about what happened to Tommy Vercetti.
And Maybe GTA 7 could be in San Fierro or Las Venturas.
III, VC and SA are in a different reality than IV, V and VI.. there is no correlation or connection between the two.
There is some based off what the actual company has added
They basically hinted it in the game, CJ became a success in the early 90s after the events of SA and is living a quiet life somewhere in the suburbs.
Nah dawg. CJ and sweet are like the og gangsters from the 90's irl. They all moved to the suburbs and run legit businesses and have kids, mortgages and left the hood for good. No one stays in the hood forever. Crime is a tool to help you get to a better position but many fail to pivot.
A lot of them ogs from the 90s are bums, locked up or dead now bro and crime isn’t a tool to better the position it’s a cope to do bad stuff 💀
What was that cutscene of Ryder stabbing cj I don’t remember that in the game
Someone made that themselves
my guess is cj is still out there, living rich and going on tours with mad dogg, maybe living in san fierro. cesar says this thing later in the game “i like this city, it has something gentle about it” and then cj says “kendl seems to like it too” so maybe its possible they moved there one day. venturas wouldnt be too smart with salvatore after him, as for sweet i dont think he was so lucky. for grove street to be taken over like that hes either dead or doing life
the title cj is dead the video nah he alive bruh
Why do you think that?
Hi ls Can u make a video Why Big sike betrayed cj❤ if you havent
what up homie
The game should have ended wirh CJ paying respects to his mother's grave at the cemetery.
there is a line where he says "heros get killed" i just heard it playin on mobile after the glen park mission
He put the Grove back in control of things, however he wanted no more part in that lifestyle. I can see him moving on with the casino and Madd Dog's managerial positions and left Sweet to handle things. However Sweet wasn't competent enough to keep the Grove on top and it resulted in either him joining CJ in leaving it behind or his death.
what happened to the san4san video?
Moved it to my other channel since it wasn’t what you guys wanted
if cj gotten locked up it would’ve been known worldwide. he have to be either dead (assassinated) or moving lowkey .
I dont think he is dead, Because Franklins voice actor says we will have a surprise in gta 6 and he talked to cjs voice actor and wanted him to join gta 6 and if he were dead then how could he join again? Thats why i say he is not dead because he maybe will be in gta 6, Maybe he was in jail
In the game Universe I think he's alive but in the real life no
In real life the VA still is alive lol
aren't gta 5 a alternative universe? ii though 3D universe and HD universe are separated
He won’t come back cause young malay don’t want to act anymore but if he comes back rockstar gotta may millions probably
Someone...somewhere...probably has a San Andreas save with CJ having a higher kill count than Hitler
💀 on god
That's literally gta online character lmao
“But his mums death would be the best thing that happened to him” damn 💀
😂 it’s the truth
I think CJ fled like he did years before San Andreas.
I just saw CJ on Grove Street
Proof
In the gta5.. u can actually see the toothpaste one.
Plus ppl say he started his own clothing line.. modeling ect. And he retired.. but idk
I 100% thing salvatore took care of him. Cj left salvatore so mad... in gta 3 salvatore didnt have a care in the world. He DEAD. He messed with the mob
Yes, but it hasn’t been confirmed so all we know is that your theory could be all nonsense because rockstar hasn’t given an official statement yet unless rockstar games says that CJ is dead it’s not true
It’s for discussion feel free to come with logic
ON GTA SIX THEY SHOULD ADD CJ SO THEY
CAN HAVE A BIG FIGHT WITH THE GOVERMENT
they cant cuz they are on different universe but you can hope for franklin. michael. trevor. maybe even niko bellic. etc
these could be in gta 6
I think the best people to give the information about carl Johnson would be Rockstar them self
Idk if you noticed but they don’t care enough to tell us fully and honestly I’m happy they don’t because it would kill the hype around him
Supposedly you can dig him up in Gta 5.
CJ is probably gone back to liberty city. He always wanted to leave los santos. And more so after the death of brian (his mentioned brother who died before the game) and his mom. I do think his return to los santos was meant to be temporary.
I doubt he did. Liberty city is least of all places he wants to go back after Salvatore
CJ definitely did move back to los house top ranked the games Loki But after a bust FIB
Overall Rockstar is just lazy that’s why they don’t wanna bring back CJ
Motherfoucker,there are not lazy.Rockstar always create new games and new charcaters,the don't reliay on one charcater
I didn’t like the fact that Ryder was written out of the game randomly. I always wanted to save him or at least play as him. Even if that meant killing CJ. Ryder was more charismatic, gangsta, funny, etc more than CJ. He deserved better.
@@hofnarrtheclown you known I think this to, cause you don’t acc see his death I like to think he jumped off the boat at the last second before it blew up
Ryder's VA left rockstar which led rockstar to make Ryder betray CJ and they had to use the remaining voice lines for CJ but I think it was better that Ryder dies instead of betraying CJ.
@@theangryclaw6465 He didn’t leave. That was made up and people ran with it. He explained that Rockstar just didn’t tell him to do anything else. The video is on CZcams.
@@Kippzy Oh I see thanks for telling me.
@@theangryclaw6465 No problem. It just sucks. I really wanted more from his character.
i heard that CJ might be Franklins Uncle cause CJ Dates a Girl Named Denise and Franklins Aunt is named Denise it’s the same Denise
are we talking about GTA vice city or San address?
I always thought it is terrific creating custom made female protagonists even if she is a tall athletic muscle woman wearing a short cute girly dress, short girly socks, and Mary Jane shoes as an example. There also should be various first female names from A to Z you give you female protagonist such as Alexandra as my example.
San Andreas need a remake for sure (a little different is fine) i'm definely gonna buy the game no cap
Vespucci beach one is a stretch
Like aryure morhan he is a legend
My comment because of death of CJ that brother sweet is member on the ballas tetory
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CJ has either been hiding from the authorities or has his own business in either Liberty City, Las Venturas or somewhere in Los Santos since he and sweet left Grove St
I reckon he will be in police protection and in exile somewhere around Vice City or Liberty City in the 3d Universe
But didn't Tony kill a madman madman are from the mafia and gsf wasn't a mafia they are a street gang so if Tony had kill cj why does it say Tony kill a madman so no your Theory makes no sense
Salvatore Leon put a contract on CJ and had him whacked by a mob hitman
Thank god that cj is not dead shut Ryder
I thought Rockstar said that The 3D Universe and HD universe are not connected
They said they weren’t the same universe that some things may not connect but that doesn’t mean that the story doesn’t run in the same direction for the most part it just means that some things could’ve happened differently or not at all
@@LScentralso do you think that their going to Talk about/ bring up Tommy Vercetti in GTA 6 Since one of the main lands is taking place in Vice City?
The whole Rockstar universe thing works like events happened(that is why they are mentioned in hd games sometimes) but everything else is reset. Its a soft reboot. Fast and furious did it with its movies when it turned into an action franchise. Mi movies did it three times with MI , MI2 and then Mi3. James Bond did it with its 80s movies. Its just easier way to write a story because then you don't have to follow the lore of the original world and you don't have to redo everything.
CJ IS THE OJ HE KILLED HALF OF THE BALLAZ
He is alive
Idk man could be dead could not be dead never know
Young Mayla Is Cj He Dont Wana Be On No More Rock Star Games
It do not matter is cj kill more than toni it jus a number real killers had died in the hand of people that never kill before
Cause hd universe and 3d universe are diffrent, all the theroies are wrong. The stuff in GTA 4 and 5 are just easter eggs.
So the story is cj was killed by toni cipriani then afew day a mafia killied cipriani
Cj is more your,cj turn height is 6 Foot 2 inch/188cm
Why do all keep saying Toni Cipriani kill cj
Thank god wait cj are serious or you are just fooling around
i think cj would have left los santos and moved to either las venturas or san ferriro being cj wasn't a very good gang member he only did it to help his brother and pay back any resentments his family held against him i see him giving the manger role of maddog to ken rosenburg or kent paul after a year or two and his garage business to cesar and jethero and probably living his best life in las venturas with Woozi under triad and torneo protection with whatever canon gf the player chose if torneo was true to his word in protecting him and sweet probably died in a gang war at some point before or during 1998 my best guess due to his poor gang leadership and cj not being around to keep him in check and i see Cesar and Kendall having a family at some point after gta sa and probably if you want to take the hd easter eggs into account he did modeling for clothing and toothpaste to keep the casino looking legit as possible and advertising purposes
CJ is fine. CJ is OP.
I think C. J went corporate and made even more money! 😂😂
Naw cj just erased hes not dead.
I seen a video where someone completed last mission on gta 5 then went to a ? On the map & at a beach he had another mission that said " KILL CJ's MURDERER" so sound like he dead??
That’s fake nothing really points back to cj in gta 5 other than the mentioning of “OG Johnson”
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He's not dead if he was they would have said it nobody knows
The mission is based on a theory that Toni Cipriani was sent to kill CJ. On the ps2 cover of LCS that Toni comes back to Liberty City after killing a gangster. (THIS IS JUST A THEORY! THE FACT THAT TONI KILLED CJ IS NOT REAL!)
Yea it’s really hard to say what happened to any of them due to eastereggs always coming out and lore
Honestly, CJ prob just upped and dipped, cause CJ is a BUSTER.... he dont care bout no family, especially after all the BS that happened. He left once, he aint sticking around and dealing with it again.
That said, Franklin and CJ would have been epic with the lowdown agency dlc for gta o
its CIPRIANI not CIPERANI
I’ll say it how I like don’t get to upset 💀
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@@LScentral 🤣🤣
Cj is not dead bro nice try 😂
I killed more then 580 people in gta san Andreas 😅😂
The sex :female 😂
I gta five cj is dead
i think cj is still alive nor dead they probably did that just to leave it open but they had a falling out with that voice actor like most voice actors rockstar fucks them all over so prolly dead but i hate what they did to johnnys character the voice actor shoukda refused