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DABI WAS A NOMU ALL ALONG!! The Dark Truth about Toya Todoroki, Doctor Ujiko & All For One REVEALED!
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- DABI WAS A NOMU ALL ALONG!! The Dark Truth about Toya Todoroki, Doctor Ujiko & All For One REVEALED!
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The Todoroki/Dabi storyline has always been one of the most compelling part of the story for me. Touya keeps coming closer and closer to the saddest backstory in MHA, his first instinct when waking up was to apologize to his family… just sad
Even though Toya did the right thing in the end he still went down a dark path.
He just became the MHA version of Scorpion.
Now the real battle between brothers unfold!
Naw he just looked really cool . I got over it already. *RUSHED
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This is one of the most bitter and hurtful chapters, when you realize the first thing he probably thought of was his family. Which is sad when he saw and believed they replaced him.
Very true but like I’ve said he should’ve pulled up anyway to at least see there reactions
@@stevenmark4407 Agreed.
@@10tailedbijuu Fair point.
Yeah, and then he just replaced one type of obsession with another. Truly a sad life.
@@AnimeUproar it’s like he needed a reason to exist…
Now it makes more sense how the todorokis did not recognize him in previous encounters/on the news, his vocal cords along with other parts of his body were from strangers along with him returning as an adult. Furthermore, the scarring and black hair dye seem to be pretty good disguises in themselves.
its also that when you arent looking for something you wont find anything. they were 100% convinced touya was dead, they had lived with that for a decade. no one at that point was looking closely at anyone who looked like touya and going "touyas alive!"
I mean that was obvious ngl so I was always annoyed when people would give Enji and shoto shit for not recognizing that they’re face to face with Touya. Like he looks, sounds, acts different than when he was last seen alive. Now we now know just how much has changed that really made him unrecognizable
Also his flames were blue, his family never got to see his flames evolve
Touya still somehow looked almost the exact same as before the accident except he had scars and his hair was always black to begin with it just turned white as he got older also it was never suggested that his vocal cords were replaced his voice may have just naturally matured but he didn’t recognize it since he was asleep for 3 whole years endeavor and his family should have recognized that was touya by the fact that dabi looks like a older versions of touya with burn scars and less white hair i mean dabi has blue fire and touya had blue fire that alone should have had the entire world looking at endeavor and asking if they were related
@@blacksheep6415 Touya didn’t have blue fire yet until the incident so they only saw him with regular flames
Well dabi being a nomu was hinted all along because when he died only his lower jaw remained and the rest of the body was missing, but i still think maybe the doctor convinced him that he is a nomu and he isn't really a nomu
More like Frankenstein’s monster than a nomu cause they used dead body parts to rearrange him instead of making him into a full fledged nomu
He isn’t a Nomu. He was close to becoming one, but he escaped the facility. Like what another commenter said, he’s more like Frankenstein
@@jeffreyali1456 might be
@@willowwisp4307 incomplete nomu
No idea. AFO and his team are a rotten, vile, pulsating web of deception.
I wonder how Shigaraki will react if he finds out that AFO had just seen him as a replaceable pawn back then and had a bunch of replacements ready until Touya burned the place to the ground and probably killed all the other kids except for Kai/Overhaul?
Im 100% sure that Shigaraki will kill Afo and a 30% that he will retreat with what is left of his league and followers
I'm pretty sure that Shigaraki already figured that out, since All For One started to hijack and screw around with his body and conscience in an attempt grow more powerful and finally getting his grubby hands on One For All.
Shigaraki is already pissed at AFO for trying to control him from the inside. He will definitely turn on AFO, it's only a matter of time.
Wait , Kai was int he same facility ??
Where does it say Kai was in the facility? Even if he was I didn't know that..
Dabi has been shown to be a reference to *Frankenstein's monster* narratively in this chapter and even visually in pro hero arc when he goes to meet Endeavor. He does the monster pose with his hands in ch 191, which seems to be a homage to an image exactly like that with Frankenstein's monster.
Dopest character in MHA imo
@@Mr_AntiSocial Yeah, the anime didn't have the pose. lol
I thought Dabi was a reference to The Joker
@@blue-eclipse9365 Who said he has to be limited to be a reference to just one thing? lol
@@raec5426 Ik that. I mean from what I’ve seen he’s The Joker+Azula+Frankenstein. Not that bad of a combo all things considered
By far the most messed up part has to be AFO blaming Toya for not healing back to 100% in those 3 years. AFO really bullied a kid fresh out of a coma into thinking he had control over his healing while in the coma and just chose not to do it properly because he’s a bad kid. That’s so many levels of messed up from a mental health point of view.
We saw from the first war - Dabi felt angered towards Hawks when he said Twice was the biggest threat in the League of Villains for Hawks to deal with instead of him (said he should have been watching him). All he wanted in life was recognition, to be the first at something, to not be overlooked in general. Yet he always ends up in someone's else shadow. Like with Endeavor having Shoto as the prized son (as a child Toya told Endeavor to look at him). And now we see he was a potential back up plan for AFO too.
Yes, I feelso bad for him. It is sad.
If you think about dabi is the perfect parrell for endeavor
@@blckotaku5250 Yep. Exactly!
@@raec5426 Getting some my Hero Part 2 vibes unless it's rushed ( not mentioning the 🇸🇬 Singularity Quirk which has manifested in recent Akira body horror Like by Shiq ) and their plan to separate the villains is decaying pun intended.
@@AJ-kt5zo Hori is ending it though. lol
Seeing Touya was a possible replacement as All for One's succesor if Shigaraki failed feels so sad because his entire existence was always replaceable
Of course. Bc AFO was never looking for a successor but a new body he could transfer his mind into. But to do that he needed someone so weak minded, easily manipulable, and unstable that he could easily suppress that mind. And that's where Shigaraki came in. He just prioritized Shiggy bc he needed him right now and it would take too long to find another candidate. The main body dies so does the Quirk and AFO.
Yeah I wonder how Tenko/Shiggraki would react to that along with the fact that he probably was quirkless until All For One found him that day
He always live as an option.
@@vjfxtheory that’s a theory but it’s not proven yet I personally believe it but you can choose to or not up to you. But either way he’s not going to react well to learn that he was replaceable if need be. So I still feel bad for him either way. Although if the theory is right then that’s a whole other level of messed up.
I don't even see Dabi lasting long enough for Shoto to technically lose. I feel like their fight will pretty much be a one sided beat down with Shoto narrowly managing to defend himself against Dabi's flames, and once Shoto is finally driven into a corner Dabi will just die. Similar to Itachi when he fought Sasuke. I could be wrong. Horikoshi has pretty frequently subverted my expectations.
I heard somewhere dabi’s flames had the potential be stronger than his fathers, idk I’m confused
@@ca1isink664 They don't have the potential to be stronger than Endeavor's. They ARE stronger than Endeavor's. Dabi's only issue is that his body is extremely weak. Particularly against heat due to the influence of his mother's genes. His mother, having an ice quirk, was naturally weak to flames. Dabi unfortunately inhereted that side effect.
@@ca1isink664 it IS technically stronger cause blue flames are hotter than Red and orange flames
I feel this tbh.
@@Kaslanyan well actually that's only half true.
In reality, blue flames signify the fire combusting at its most optimal/efficient. So blue flames can actually be a lot weaker than some fires that are reddish orange.
But the reason it's somewhat true is because blue flames have much higher heat potential than red flames, so the peak of their possible heat is much higher.
Forgive me for my fact-checking ways :^)
If you had to summarize everything about Dabi in one word it would be "replaceable". Touya was replaced with Shoto, his body parts were replaced, he was supposed to be a replacement for Shigaraki and once again, Touya was replaced with Dabi. Another word is "failure" which also goes well with these. Touya was replaced with Shoto because he was deemed a failure, his body parts were replaced because he failed to realize how much his flames were hurting him in time, he failed at being a SECOND CHOICE and then, because he failed at being Touya, whose whole purpose was to surpass All Might, he became Dabi
Stop it's so sad to hear that😭Like Touya live for nothing but approval, approval from his father and approval from this man who 'made him' and expects something from him. Even now he's unconciously wanting approval because he wanted to create chaos to validate his existence. My man went through so much😭.
Its like Nebula from GOTG
I would use the word, “Neglected”
@@blue-eclipse9365 Is he though? He wanted approval, he wasn't neglected. When Endeavor figured out Touya's quirk was hurting himself Endeavor stopped training him and quite literally told Touya to stop and do something else however Touya replied with a fuck you, you lit this fire in me and it won't stop. So it isn't neglect. Now the other two children Fuyumi and Natsuo are neglected, pretty sure they never even had a proper conversation with Endeavor in their childhood.
@@DrageLee Papa Todoroki neglecting him is what drove him to improve himself more and more, never stopping for a moment and when the disappointment of not showing up came, Touya was overcome with neglect. When he awoke he tried to make excuses for his father and when he returned home he saw the mere memory of him was being neglected in place of preparing Shoto.
I think Neglect on top of Replacable is what I would use
Imagine if Touya's quirk awakening is when his vessel/body crumble into dust, a human torch like Touya emerged. Now he's pure flames and is immune to flames. And if they use flame against him, he'll grow stronger
that would be dope
Just douse him with water
Dope
Wow 😳That would be awesome! 🔥
Phoenix Quirk awakening theory*
My heart genuinely aches for Dabi. All of this could’ve been prevented if Endeavor showed slightest bit of affection and if his mother actually stepped in more. Both Dabi and Tomura have had such tragic lives
bruhh dabi was the one we saw where endy is genuinely happy
@@jamesdarrylalcala1010 not happy for Dabi though. He was only happy that his son had the potential to be a hero due to his quirk. He was never a good father
Waait what tomura Shingaraki ???? How!!
rei couldn't "step in more" with a mental state
@@Mayakano he was literally abused by his dad and accidentally killed his family how is that not tragic
This chapter actually blew my mind! The dark truth about Dabi’s real backstory was all we waited for and now it’s finally here. The storyline has been insanely popping off lately!
We knew this part of his backstory was coming, but it still hits different!
I know this isn't relevant but MHA's art is some of the best I've seen in shonen, this chapter being a prime example of that.
Hmmm
@@notex6570 wat
These aren't even the official release (come out Sundays) with better quality. These are from fan scans. lol
@@raec5426 o
I have a feeling Shouto's Ice side will have a huge part to play in stopping Dabi and the emotional development shouto has gone through with his family will go towards reverting dabi back to toya. Kind of like Shouto has the flames of his father and ice of his mother and the love of his family to help brake dabi's dark views and bring back the brother and son they all lost
I wish that would happen, though Touya has gone too far beyond repair when it comes to his views and body. He will most likely end up dying, which is upsetting.
The ice would literally help him last longer
There’s definitely a widespread misunderstanding of the latest chapter. Dabi is not “nomu.” No where close. Even the experiments line isnt in relation to noumu experiments but instead the social experiments necessary to make someone a vessel for AFO should Shigaraki not be able too. Dabi is a regular human with augmented parts and its not like those part regenerate like Noumus as his burns and scars always in increased.
I don’t understand how this could be miss understood as him being a nomu. He was clearly suppose to be a spare shigi but his body couldn’t handle his quirk so he was cast aside.
This kid didnt die in his fire accident. He survived. Hows that possible?
No one in that latest chapter talked to the doctor in prison. Only he knows the truth. Not all Nomu have super regeneration in them. Neither can normal humans withstand burning like Dabi can. He has something in him.
Knowing how shonen typically goes, I don't think he will kill any big heroes. Dabi will probably be taken down by Endeavor and Todoroki, be spared long enough for Endeavor to explain himself and how he has changed since Touya's death, and be forgiven as Dabi burns away from his own flame with tears and a smile on his face, thus finally putting him at peace. I'm calling it 😂
factual
😢
facts
You have a good point, but I do think Horikoshi will kill off some pretty big heroes before this is over (someone like All Might, for instance). Horikoshi has shown a willigness to kill of heroes like Midnight in the past, and this should only escalate in the final arcs.
Plus dabi legit can't cry, he burned his tear ducts
I swear after this chapter all them Dabi fan will be like *"I may not be bob the builder but I can fix him!"*
Will happen.
Actually, it is happening.
We will fix him
@@sidewayn5676 ok bob the builder make sure you have some tools
LMAO 🤣
Just like a woman in an abusive relationship.
I have the very bad, and sad, feeling that Dabi believe that after the fire on the hill his family all went "oh Toya just died..... well anyway..", and went about their business like "normal." when if fact *THINGS GOT A WHOLE LOT WORSE.* But he thought this of not just Endeavor, but his whole either family.!!
But I also wonder, did he actually see the other members of his family, or just saw Enji and Shoto from a distance, and then waited till they were gone to pray at his shrine?
I think he really thinks something along those lines.
Dabi is basically like an ice cube with fire powers since using his power hurts him
Lol
I think toya's quirk may awaken soon.
His body will crumble to dust and 1 of 3 outcomes will likely happen
1) he dies
2) his body dies and the his mind will merge with his fire making him a sentient flame
3) like a Phoenix he will be reborn from the ashes of his current body into something else
I hope it's three that would be amazing!
4) whe he is almost at the verge of death he realizes just wants to kill endeavor so he gets close enough to afo, afo teleports dabi to himself (idk he needs help against everyone), but in a surprising action dabi goes nuvlear and kills himself, afo and endeavor and he leaves hawks crippled for the rest of the fight (or the rest of his life)
Sounds op
@@antoniobaretic5405 that's even cooler!!
The human nomu hybrid makes sense. This would have been shortly after all for one was nearly killed. The skin deep or surface only changes would fit with what the doc would have experimented with at that time. The full nomu came much later as it seems both dabi and kurogiri were just failed experiments.
Agreed!
We know that Gigantomachia was the prototype of all Nomu, and that Shigaraki is basically an advanced Nomu. Could Machia have been an early hate vessel for AFO?
@@factfiend1000 I think giga was just the loyal guard dog as a result of afo's quark manipulation. Early on we learned that sometimes peoples minds would be destroyed by the process of the transfer. So not possible to use as a vessel, but an easy to manipulate tool.
They used easer head friend a dead guy so weird
HE was groomed as a child , I feel bad for him , he was nothing more then a hurt child , who just wanted his dad to be proud of him, because he loved Endeavor , and his actions today is a reflection of his pain , regrets, remorse, he wants his dad to pay for making him be the man he is today..........Dabi is a victim here and the only one who can save him , is ENDEAVOR.
@Kurocoon if their talk ni just strong enough got prolly be on a naruto level tall no jutsu 😂😂
It is True that his past was tragic but he has to pay for his crimes at the same time... the only realistic happy ending for him is to be in jail and hopefully reform... but that if his Quirk does not kill him first.
I can see Enji pulling the noble sacrifice thing and it being used to erase all the monstrous acts he’s done. Poor Dabi ended up leaving one Father of the Year only to get picked up by another (AFO). He never stood a chance of being a decent human being.
Yea but I wouldn’t be surprised if Natsuo came in the middle of a battle and started cracking jokes 😂
Dabi is one of the most important characters in the series and there is so much to him we have not learned about him yet
Imagine if overhaul just said, “I got you bro.” And fixed Dabi… if only they were friends.
I mean , if he gets his quirk back and dabi burns out mid epic fight it could happen , both would have redemption arcs ? Long shot but possible 😂
I doubt they even met.
The villains have been conducting experiments on children.
Orochimaru and Jigen: Could this be one of our people.
Ha
Tbh even if he was a nomu his flames are so hot that the regeneration might not have mattered or been very effective, good thing Dabi doesn’t feel a lot of pain.
Also he refused to be "helped further" by AFO and ujiko and was clearly on a path of self destruction
I don't even know if him not being able to feel pain is a good thing like this man can die anytime and he won't know it so if he meet his demise and it appears he haven't still done what he wanted to do that would hurt him a lot.
@@jm8837 Something will prevent him from dying so quickly. Since he's already been nearly incinerated by his own power, I'm guessing he was given another quirk to recover or his quirk will somehow heal him. Not sure since his flames are said to be purely destructive, but I can't rule it out just yet.
@@eclipse7963 like some ice quirk awakening or something? I don't think so because it isn't really his original body.
@@jm8837 Where did you get that from
This was a great chapter finally. When it comes to the villains, it’s always good. This really made me feel bad for Touya and what he went through while giving more emphasis on AFO being even more monstrous. Considering how he’s using his flames, Touya may not survive in the end.
I know, I really hope he doesn’t die! He means a lot to me… I rlly love him, in fact: if I’m correct the reason why he burned himself was because he wanted to be noticed,
When you realize a villain in the anime/manga has a better story than the main character
I *hate* deku so much
Touya/Dabi is the best villain in the series. He has a tragic back story which makes him appeal to the readers/viewers. His character design, personality traits and quirk make him a fan favorite. I’m still waiting to hear about Deku’s dad, that should be interesting also. But the Todoroki Family has some of the best storyline work.
even if he's rushing the story , horikoshi is still one of the best authors when it comes to backstories , and as they say (( he doesn't miss a single chapter about todo family ))
He's keeping up with the Todorokis😤
I dunno if I'd call this rushing. The pacing feels the same as the rest of MHA. There has been more time-jumps surely, but at least to me things still retain the pace I've become accustomed too with MHA. Might be Horikoshi wants to put this part of the story to bed, to either end the series before it wears out its welcome; or hopefully move onto the next leg of the saga after Deku and Co. move on from U.A. and help rebuild society.
It was said in the past that Ujiko owns nursing homes, orphanages and hospitals. Lots of ways to get quirks and lots of test subjects
The way I see Touya's survival after his escape from the facility, it can be compared to how people can survive seemingly lethal situations through sheer willpower. Very much to the levels of impossibility in this case, but probably still along the same lines.
With how Touya's body is being burned away so drastically, it would need to be a genuine miracle for him to survive for long after the battle. I love his character and wish desperately for him to see his whole family again for some kind of closure for all of them, but he seems to be going the way of a candle being blown out: flickering rapidly before extinguishing.
I think willpower is a very real thing in MHA. Wonder why every wielder of One for All has such a strong sense of justice and willpower? Well, if the vestiges of the souls of previous users can remain inside the core of OfA, then their willpower adds on to the quirk. Ever wonder why Deku readily breaks his bones without consideration when the situation calls for it? Well, that's the willpower of all the previous 8 users adding to Deku's own will. And All Might too. He readily shortens his hero timespan if it means saving people and being the symbol of peace. Willpower.
You pointing out the parallels between Dabi and Frankenstein's monster is actually stronger than you think.
Besides what you stated, in the original Frankenstein story, when Dr. Frankenstein first created the monster and gave it life, he actually was appalled and disowned his creation because it wasn't what he wanted from his experiment. The Monster was in a fragile state of mind, similar to a child, and to have the one who created it turn his back on it and disgraced it turned the Monster into a vengeful being. It became so engrossed in rage, it returned to the Doctor's home and killed his wife but left him alive so his creator will forever be racked with torment.
Comparing what I've explained and matching it with what we know and have now learned about Dabi, it all sounds familiar doesn't it?
damn
Yeah, those are all good points.
There's also an overarching theme in Frankenstein of 'who is the monster'. The person who created him, or the monster itself? A similar theme to endeavours entire career and family life.....Did he create Dabi or has Dabi a born monster?
@@AmandaComeauCreates dabi obviously not born a monster as he was a good kid as touya.
@@ThatGuyThai oh, for sure the abuse was a significant factor. I just thought I'd point out the theme from Frankenstein since this manga plays with the idea of righteousness a lot. AFO is evil that thinks it is good. The Liberation Army too.
Spite is a great motivator.
I would like for Toya/Dabi to survive, but I have a feeling he would rather die than forgive Endeavor.
It would be nice if he could at least reconcile with his siblings before he goes.
Bro ALL for one is a monster but this tie in crazy! Not gon lie I’m still wondering where deku dad is 😂
He went to buy some milk
Deku's dad and Deku's final quirk are the only two big mysteries left to resolve
@@AnimeUproar exactly!!!! If they end the series and don’t touch on his father at all I’d be pissed. It would be crazy the entire show is him narrating events that happened to his father that was injured or couldn’t be there. Imma be livid if we walk away with nothing about his father 😂
Dabi's back story is just the same as obito
I was just about to say that… pretty similar
I think Dabi is beyond any talk-no-jutsu type of redemption. He will most likely die and someone will have to sacrifice themselves to stop him from killing many with him. I'm thinking his father will fly him out out the atmosphere with help. Perhaps Hawks will lend him wings.
Can't say I appreciate the spoilers in the thumbnail and title, but it's a good way of getting me invested in it again
I'm finally glad that Hori is giving us Dabi's backstory when all we knew about him back then was that he was some stoic persona bastard with egolord levels of madness.
I find it a bit surpring no one, including me, realized this plot twist specially those who read Vigilantes were AFO has shown to let his Human-Nomu Hybrids be their own thing, most specifically Number 6.
I instantly thought of Number 6 when I read the title of the video
To the villains, All for 1 is a true hero that saved many of them, regardless of if it was for his own reasons, they still owe him their life or so they believe
My takeaway from this chapter is that Dabi's obsession with vengeance and recognition was so overwhelmingly strong, even All For One couldn't successfully beat it out of him.
All For One actually met someone who was not only more stubborn than even he was, but was far too uncontrollable.
My takeaway was that Dani was right when he told Hawks that the he should’ve kept his eyes on him! As you said, the fact that AFO, the villainous mastermind that lived for generations couldn’t get him under his thumb is mind boggling!
Yeah, and this has been hinted at for a while now, ever since Dabi revealed his true identity.
It makes way more sense that AFO gave Tenko his quirk. He had no way of knowing Tenko’s quirk was that powerful because he only awakened it the day his family died, and he walked him home before that. AFO simply targeted Tenko because he was Nana’s descendant.
a replacement and being overlooked...story of my life. I feel your pain Touya.
I believe Dabi will die, which will lead to more sadness in the todoroki family. What All for One did to those children and the "daycare" plan is beyond sickening. Something tells me the ending of the manga will be bittersweet.
@Corey Hall
if he dies i doubt he would die alone...
I agree with you that Dabi will die. First of all, Horikoshi sensei ( the artist of MHA) said he does not like Happy ending. Secondly, when dabi was a child, after he burning himself, the person save him ( I don't remember his name, lol) said he only could live for fews months or fews years because dabi's orgarns were burnt. But he still lives to these days mainly because of his animosity. Eventually he will die whether he forgive Endeavor or not.
TBH Dabi deserves to be happy, he needs to be saved, I don't want my boy to die
Dabi has become a literal fire demon death is the only mercy for him now
You got notice the horror aspect in this chapter and the creator of my hero academia Kōhei Horikoshi says he's planning on doing I'm horror manga after he's done with HMA and from what we've seen so far of his work he's good at it.
Its similar to obito from naruto in someway
Get crushedby rock /burned to death, saved by the main villan / supposed to be dead / wakes up from coma with crushed body / goes to see his family as first thing and apologize/ see something that change his mind / get new goals / goes under another name dabi/tobi as a villan
I love how dabi went from someone who wasn't very interesting, to one of, if not the best villain in the entire franchise!
Yeah but he was always kinda popular especially with the lady’s in the fandon
AGREED
I'm trying so hard not to burst into tears. This story hurts my heart so much. He did not deserve this. All he wanted was to make his father proud. Dabi's been my favorite for a while because I can somewhat relate to him. At first I hoped that he could change but after this video I have a feeling that it's too late. I just hope that if he dies, he'll know the truth.
Ngl Dabi should’ve just pulled up and see how the family would’ve reacted to him returning. Also I believe Dabi is gonna die HOWEVER I feel like he’s gonna realize things was more complicated after his “death” and that his family did care for him and miss him. He still gonna die at the end either seeing the light or being stuck in the darkness.
It would be kinda refreshing if he got redemption of sorts in the end. Tragic characters, good or evil deserve at least that much
Dabi is the best Villain in the Series and that's hard to argue
I have this thought that somehow Endeavor is going to realize his mistakes (He has changed after he became the #1 Hero, and when he learned the "truth" about All Might and that incident where he met a kid who looked up to him over all the other heroes), and he is going to apologize and recognize Dabi and meet him. I think that Endeavor will go up to Dabi and somehow Dabi is going to try and burn Endeavor, but Endeavor doesn't care, and ends up going up to DAbi to hug him, to which Dabi goes out of control and then incinerates Endeavor to death, but he doesn't care because that is his way to apologize to his son, who he ruined. Or, possibly they share "Flames of love" and instead of incinerating endeavor, he learns about "Flames of Warmth."
I really want Endeavor to end up becoming a true hero that everyone looks up to, including his own son, however we really cannot say if Dabi can be saved... He seems to be a Zombie at this point, just living with the thought of wanting to be recognized by his own father. It's also possible that Dabi self-destructs when he gets Endeavors love and ends himself because he cannot take it(because when one is put in massive abuse that they never wanted to be in, in the first place, they do things so drastic that everything is ruined in their life, and if somehow, the abuse was a lie, or that everything they wanted actually happens, and somehow things turn from abuse to happy.... The victim cannot handle it and they can just do some really bad things to themselves).
Don't underestimate the power of spite. People are capable of doing great things because of spite.
After that line of them grooming them as spares and by the end of the chapter, Dabi looked very similar to Shiggy in the first war when he was burned up by Endeavor
"I get it, no one but I, will cross the sky full of rainbows"
I can see Endeavor getting in between them. Telling Dabi "It's me you really want. Leave your brother alone. He didn't ask to be born." Then allows himself to be killed by Dabi's fire.
This storyline was always my bread and butter in this series. I saw the reveal happening, but this? Not at all. This hit hard af
About the:Flames of Vengeance" thing, I think it means that Dabi's body is overworking itself just to maintain functionality. All of the adrenaline and hormones his body produces as a consequence of his mental state elevate his metabolism past the norm to enable it to keep functioning, and if he were to let go of those feelings, he would rapidly loose functionality and die.
In other words, his body is always in fight or flight and is working its ass off just to stay alive.
When the anime reached this point, I imagine the ending is like Naruto Shippuden ending 28, focusing on Touya. IMO the ending is the saddest and the best Naruto ending and y'all should watch it
I wouldn't call him a nomu still. It's more of he COULD have been a nomu, but the only reason he's gotten this far is strictly because of his vengefulness toward Endeavor, holding back his power to not destroy his remade body, and POSSIBLY his own quirk being very specific. Don't know about that though since this chapter almost trashed the phoenix theory with the logic of "hatred his why I'm still alive and nothing else." BUT, it would be a pretty brutal existence if he thought his quirk was simply just going to kill him eventually and not know he would be reborn when all he wants is to die and stay that way.
I would call him a hybrid at this point, but we'll see what happens. If he ends up just burning up and dying like a normal human would, then maybe he wasn't a nomu of any kind.
@@AnimeUproar Specifically why I don't agree is because skin, bones, organs etc can all be transplanted IRL. Nothing in that indicates he's a nomu highbred. Just a guy with a looot of surgeries. I think that's just it. He didn't stay in the hospital long enough to get turned into a nomu. Besides, even in the chapter he says to the doctor in the flash back, "Seeing this walking corpse here gives me a decent idea of what you people were planning to do to me." (He was looking at Hood) I think that's enough to say for sure he isn't a nomu.
I kinda feel dabi is an incomplete nomu because parts of his body is the flesh of other people . And nomu are made of dead people . But with kurogiri had aizawa friends quirk his friend was still in there somewhere but all for one had him created to only be loyal to him . So Dabi got lucky he was made into a nomu who will use his quirk.
Okay, this is crazy: I was writing a MHA fan fic where Deku becomes a vigilante and kills Shigaraki after the Hideout Raid arc, but soon another apprentice, or rather, apprentices show up to take his place and so we have a war between him and all the All for One successors. And then the manga drops this Red Room style for Dabi and I am like, damn, Horikoshi.
If the heroes really want to take Dabi down, some of them may just have to pay with their lives. Given that he's unhinged, it'd be pretty easy to outsmart him. But I still believe defeating Dabi will come at a price.
I mean I'm not surprised since he got incinerated and I don't believe he would have survived in time had AFO not appeared. And we've seen a kid being taken away after a death and we don't know what happened to the body until we realized they became a Nomu before from Oboro. The parallel with Frankenstein was undeniable to me. I see Dabi as some semi-Nomu.
I had Get Schooled flashback from this chapter where there was a trafficking group that had people that act like a whole happy family but had ulterior, dark motives.
Damn I don't want dabi to die he's a great character and I would love to see him and his father reach an understanding. I get it it's pretty crazy to say but I could see it happening
Touya's backstory just keeps getting sadder! My poor boy, he's been through so much.
Shoto can’t take him down the only person that can reach him is his father as it’s not pure revenge it seems as though it’s more a hatred for his brother because he feels forgotten and not loved
I still don't get why AFO didn't give Dabi a flame resistance quirk and regeneration quirk. We know Dabi is tough enough to handle more than one Quirk, his willpower alone is insane and with either or both of those abilities he'd essentially be an unstoppable walking natural disaster.
what an interesting idea. a slow regen quirk would let him do the burning skin look, but then he could go back to looking normal
Just imagine if Dabi was chosen as AFO's successor
All For One pulled the strings in all attacks, escapes all along!
Goodbye Shoto, you last long enough...
I love Dabi SO MUCH.
What did he ever do to deserve this?!!?
T-T
Darn
I really don't want Dabi to die
He needs some happiness in his life
His been through so much already
I hope he lives
It isn't fair for him to have a horrible life and then die with a sad ending
He deserves better
It's hurtful to see him in that condition
It really breaks whatever is left of my heart to see him like that
Dabi deserves a hug. He suffered greatly and it's everyone's fault. He's a villain not by choice. But that's what everyone set him as. I just hope like a Phoenix, he will rise from the ashes and get the recognition he deserves.
does that mean that dabi has the potential to hold multiple quirks?
If he could get a regenerative quirk he'd be broken
Thanks for the spoiler in the title lol
Oh man that hit hard hearing this.We were right that All for One saved. The crazy sience that the old man did to those kids. Wow a coma I can see why being almost burned alive.
Sadden by the thought these kids think they are safe yet they will be put in danger by All for One and his lackeys
Thank you for saying Frankenstein Monster and not just Frankenstein.
The power of him not dying to prove his father wrong sad that strong will made him live a long sad and painful life.
Can't wait for more.
For goodness sake, I'll be glad to see some more dubbed my hero and black clover! I wish they would get on that and bring it out already. I honestly don't watch these videos very often because I'm wayyy behind this and I don't want spoilers. Unfortunately, the damn spoiler is in the title of the video.
Honestly Todo/Dabi are the reasons I’m still keeping up with this manga. Feels too rushed with everything else for me to really care.
Geez... First Endeavor, then AFO. Touya just can't catch a break with people trying to push their dreams onto him
I knew that Dabi is a blooming villian
I FUCKING KNEW IT
also this proves that his insane mindset was something that was made worse by AFO words
"Standing here, I realize you were
Just like me trying to make history.
But who's to judge the right from wrong.
When our guard is down I think we'll both agree.
That violence breeds violence.
But in the end it has to be this way."
How does the armstrong battle theme comnect to this fight, dabi has only an obsession and no belief beyond that?
Btw did anyone notice how similar armstrong and redesrto are- powerful brute force fighters who have a large amount of influence and have a hidden, freedom belief (armstrong wants people to fight for their own beliefs, and redestro wants the free use of quirks)
@@antoniobaretic5405 idk I just decided to place that there and see what happened
Cringe
By the by, I havent seen anyone else mention this, but Sunflower Man is a direct nod to Mr Bloom from DC comics, who also has a penchant for abducting kids and experimenting on them, though in DC, hes his own man and nobodies lackey, Sunflower Man seems to be a worker at Garaki's hospital/Nomu factory.
I can't wait to watch this fight in the anime when it comes out
It’s such an interesting comparison with Frankenstein’s monster, as the “real monster” in the story was truly society all along, reflected in how they treated him.
Dabi should have atleast tried to communicate or give some signs he had survived and gone to some type of authorities like police or get more medical help his suicidal tendencies not pending
Did you forget that he was asleep for 3 years? And he did indeed TRY to go back, but he saw that Endeavor was worse so he didn’t bother staying.
@@eclipse7963 Yeah i agree it sucks and i dont know what most people would do but he really shouldve seeked medical help and possibly mental health his burns already looked severe and the pain he wouldve felt would be excruciating that why some high burn victims get a surgery to paralyse the nerve and with a world of superpowers they may have advanced healing techniques with healing quirks like recovery girl or have mind manipulation or hypnotism quirks to help people reenter society to help their damaged mental state its not out of the realm of possibility he also did nothing while his mother and siblings suffered like no im alive but im not staying here he just became a ghost and that is on him he couldve told just his sibling or his mom he was alive but kept himself secret for some sick twisted revenge on his father
He is partially responsible albeit directly or indirectly for his own pain and suffering along with his family and i wont blame the guy but he really should have seeked real and professional help after seeing what he saw and went through
@@felixchristianjuarsa1487 2 issues with this.
1.) This is a shonen, mental health is always an issue
2.) He would murder the therapists if they pressed him and get arrested.
@@eclipse7963 Not like there wouldnt be a reporter try to dig up this story many of them would gladly pursue some type of scandal like this and there are various types of ways to get therapy or mental help this isnt the age of medieval fantasy this is a modern day hero vs villain society that has had to deal with heroes and villains that suffer from various types of stress and or tragedies so the mental health things a bit of a mute point since someone before hero society fell couldve helped or even persuaded him to try something else other than villainy if he had help from people that truly did want to help but for change he had to take the first step himself
But it wouldve been a boring anime without drama and plot twist if that were to happen so atleast its interesting
I think that during this battle, Shoto's flames are gonna turn blue, becoming on par with Dabi's (plus ultra and everything) and that Dabi is gonna snap, burn everything around him and killing many many heroes and himself inthe process (and Shoto will make it out alive but barely)
I hope not. I really want Dabi to at least meet with Endeavor one more time.
I had a hunch that Dabi was death when he was small and got made nomu by all for one
Spoilers in title? Come on dude
I love how only the title of the Video spoils the fuck out of me
He is literally the Darth Vader of MHA
"Hey bro how did you survive the fire?" -Shoto
"I didn't"-Dabi
Why do I get a very ‘Anakin’ vibe from this.
Toya blasts his quirk so powerfully he has pretty much destroyed himself, and when on the verge of death a tall figure appears, saves him and rebuilds him and stokes his hatred and pain.
OH MY GOD! Dabi became an Nomu?! What a twist