Dial VS Keypad Gun Safe Lock
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- Dial VS Keypad Gun Safe Lock. What is better a Dial or Keypad lock for your safe gunsafe or vault. This Video will help you decide what is best for your application.
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I have a sentry 14 gun safe, its the one with the fake hinge pins and reset button you can access from the outside. Anyways it takes 4 AAs and I replaced them for the first time a year ago. I've had this safe since 2007. I just thought that was crazy.
To change an "Electronic NL" lock to aMechanical lock runs how much?
Hey Wayne Awesome Video Dude. Keep up the great work. Nick.
THX!
Good video
whhitestallion thx!
Is the secure ram you showed similar to the function of the S&G Titan D drive?
Do you know exactly what mechanical lock is on a liberty 48 safe? Good one to pick over the securam? Your videos have helped me to lean towards the mechanical, I hope i made the right choice.
if you think your going to have to defend yourself, home family, ect, dont lock them in the safe, have them ready to be used instantly
I love the electronics but I hate them because they are not as reliable. That is why I will put in a backup key system when I get the information for installing one/
I agree. I will be working on that video soon
Good video. Have you seen many failures in the S&G 6120 series? I put one on my safe about 8 years ago and over the past year and half sometimes I'll need to key in my code two or three times and this is with new batteries in it. I'm thinking the keypad is going bad. It has a 2008 mfg. date. I do have an S&G 6700 so I'm likely going to go back to the mechanical lock for now. Do you know if an electronic lock can be troubleshooted or tested?
legalsolutions07 S&G 6120 is notorious for failing. one of the most drilled Locks. I would get rid of it asap
Thank you. I just checked my S&G 6700 and it seems to still work smooth even though it's been sitting for 8 years. Any recommended grease or lube for the wheel pack or brass levers? Thanks.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Sargent and Greenleaf Titan, Spartan and a few other S&G locks are EMP certified. Very reliable. You get sponsored by Securam? Don't trust them. Horrible locks.
Any information about why electronic lock fails? Beside foil keypads tends not to age too gracefully they generally just gets more and more error prone until you decide to change it.
Then there's the solenoid. Many electronic locks rely on a solenoid at the ultimate end (though not vulnerable to knocking as on cheap safes).
Guess (yes my guess with my electronic knowledge) they typically tends to get stuck as they move less smooth with age especially if they're in a basement with higher humidity, lower room temperatures than normal etc. If so they could be rescued by taking a piece of wood (to protect paint job) and knock the door with a hammer. The shocks will in many cases loosen the stuck parts. Then do not close it again - time for a new lock ;)
Though if you're skilled in fine mechanics you can probably take apart the stuck part apart and polish it smooth again and give it some long lasting oil - don't forget to service it regularly afterwards! Probably not recommended by manufacturer but hey if you know what you're it won't be less safe than before and remember of course the manufacturer want you to buy a new lock rather than repairing or servicing the old - it might be cheaper for you but it means no money for the manufacturer ;)
Damp or colder than room temp areas just causes many metals to get a rough surface even though you do not instantly recognize it with the naked eye. I've seen many solenoids (not safe locks though) not moving smoothly because of being used in less than optimal environments but they can usually be made good again with a little effort.
look up my review on the Securam safe logic Extreme. it's both in one 😉
+Wayne Winton Thanks. Nice lock. But doesn't seem to answer my question/hypothesis. What/how do electronic locks usually fail? My hypothesis is that it's mechanical and most likely frequency is very much dependent on environment. It is quite rare that electronics itself fails. Especially low power battery operated electronics unless battery leaks (use lithium batteries/cells to avoid that - available even in 1,5 v varieties for drop in alkaline replacements)
Selonid fails, motor fails gear and drive fail. Depends on manufacturer of lock.
OK thanks. Mechanical problems typically then. Just as I'd expect. Ever tried knocking the door? (with wood between to spare paint job). That should be able to temporarily free many failures as mechanical failures are usually a gradual failure because of wear and/or environment. Of course problem should still be resolved properly afterwards as they'll only get worse with time - but a drilling spared.
Just a theory. While I got my safe still underway I'm researching an underfloor safe too to spread values and especially small volume high value objects while using the larger safe for... Well larger objects;). Dial combinations are very rare around here and if wanting a dial combination lock that's a double up in price. The larger safe I've ordered the seller had to order from manufacturer as in in Denmark dial combinations are just about non existent - at least the price extra for mechanical vs the default key for once was very fair and on par with price difference in the locks themselves when comparing German online prices. Locks here seems to be 80% keys (i really wonder what is so great about keys?) and 19% electronics and 1 percent for vintage and oddballs like me something like that.
I could change the keyed lock in the floor safe myself to a mechanical dial but I'm unsure to what degree it'll make the safe less safe that it has an elongated keyhole instead of a perfect circular (I can drill it larger if needed and make threaded hole for dial mount). Potentially that could make it easier to drill it to look at the discs.
I could also go with electronics though I'm mostly wanting a mechanical. No issue to install myself and again a hefty premium with fantasy prices over keyed lock if ordered on the safe so ordering a lock online and changing it myself would save quite a bit of money and even have a key lock to sell to someone who worn their out. It will not quite see a basement environment but located near central heating humidity might be slightly higher although never condensing. I really don't like keys - too many factors that lessens security. What if thieves find the spare key? Sure it could be stored elsewhere but you still have to always carry the one you're using. Then the wrong people may see it or if you're unlucky and get robbed in the street of the kind where they drag you to ATMs they might notice your key - which is easily recognizable as a safe so while visiting ATMs why not also visit your home clearly there must be something really valuable and your address is even on the social security card. (It's not normal for people here to have decent safes not even those than those that can be opened by a potato are too common)
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