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00:00:00 Pink
00:00:59 Garnt tested an AI
00:01:58 Best topics for a podcast
00:04:01 ChatGPT
00:05:44 Joey let AI write a Chainsaw Man review
00:07:30 Will AI ruin teachers life
00:10:02 We love some good NPC memes
00:11:52 AI is going for the creative field
00:18:08 AI and morality
00:25:12 Why do people speak to robots
00:26:56 At least humans have manual labor
00:31:12 What AI do we want
00:32:52 Bokksu
00:34:10 Intrusive thoughts
00:37:52 Holding everybody's lives in your hand
00:40:42 Fast traveling
00:43:33 Fake nuclear bomb alarm in Hawaii
00:48:43 What would we do if we knew we will die
00:51:44 What's the tag we'd go for
00:53:11 You can't even watch a Trash Taste episode in an hour
00:55:14 Would we panic or chill
00:56:20 What if we had 1 week to live
00:58:16 Documenting our lives
01:02:26 Parents using social media
01:03:35 Young people looking old
01:06:22 History and mortality
01:11:32 What if spiders evolved to be the dominant species
01:16:49 What aliens will discover if they research humanity
01:20:21 Inventing things based on animals
01:25:11 How do you think of inventing a helicopter
01:27:54 The mantis shrimp
01:30:27 Humans can't feel wetness
01:32:42 Dogs are the best
01:34:37 Evolution
01:36:25 Are mosquitos important
01:37:46 Mantis shrimp destroyed a mans toe
01:38:25 Connor has evolved to drink tea
01:41:16 Why do we like cats
01:43:42 Garnt has a cat
01:46:12 Why don't the birds just fly away
01:52:00 Garnt saw a birds first flight
01:57:12 Wholesome people
On the topic of the Hawaii ballistic missile warning, it was my day off from work so I was asleep when the warning came in. I remember waking up and reading the words "ballistic missile" and "this is not a drill". I immediately thought "well, I might as well go out in my sleep" and went back to sleep
What a mood
Based
i fking spit on my laptop goddammit xD but honestly? mood
Bro I hate it, but this would be me.
Baller
When Joey said âhave you ever seen your neighbors bringing groceries in?â. I sat there and actually thought to myself. Iâve actually never seen my neighbors, period.
If you ever stop cutting your front lawn you'll get to meet them- speaking from experience of dealing with pissed off neighbours lol
Lol I used to call my old neighbors "the hermits" because for the entire ~4 years we lived near them we never once saw them outside their house
Go outside
Funfact Ive seen my neighbors bring their groceries in so idk if my simulation is very sophisticated or im U N P L U G G E D
I mean I went with my neighbour to get groceries when I was in India
Iâm born and raised in Hawaiâi and I remember that day. I remember first texting my friends and we all said we loved each other. Then it was just sort of sadness that everything I knew and loved was going to be gone including me. It wasnât panic at that stage, but just emptiness. I was with only my mom and sister so we hugged and we texted my dad telling him we loved him since he was out and I just wished he was there. There was nothing we could do except listen for any radio updates and sit quietly at home. When we found out it was just relief, but it certainly changed how I viewed life. Things like that can happen to anyone at any given time and before you know it, you could be gone.
From the perspective of someone who has lived in a high-risk region for much of their life, the reaction to this event seemed rather irrational, including by the Hawaiian government.
Whoever launched the missile would generally not be out to decimate every inch of the targeted island / city, since rockets, plutonium pits etc are expensive, so if something of this nature were to occur in reality, simply moving away from military objects and being in a car or (ideally) descending underground would generally be expected to improve the outcome. Nuclear weapons have limited output, and their fireballs (the parts that sublimate virtually everything) are rather tiny in relative terms, so defeatism is generally not going to be the optimal mindset when dealing with an incoming threat.
Garnt: "Homefully the AI vtuber won't say anything racist."
Neuro-sama: "Hold my beer."
Funniest shit lmao Garnt jinxed Neuro hard lmao
Aged like fine milk.
AGED SO POORLY
What did she say?
@@Raiyan66. she implied the Holocaust may not have happened.
As for the Hawaiâi missile topic. When it happened I woke up to the alert on my phone. Panicked for a good bit and my family gathered in the dining room. I remember asking my dad âWhat are we supposed to do?â and he just calmly said âThereâs nothing we can do, but at least we will go out together as a familyâ. As we sat around the dining table, the gravity of the situation kind of finally sank in. I just looked around at my dad, mom and younger brother then made my peace with the situation. We then ate some leftover pizza from the night before as we hung out until we found out it was a false alarm.
Dude I think thatâs crazy but is kind of what I expected a nice healthy family would do I guess you are lucky
Damn man I'm happy that your alive that's gotta be a very traumatic experience
For me when it happen, my friends all got onto our discord group chat said how glad we were to be friend then hopped off. My dad was already at work and my mom was just about to leave before the alert. We just stayed at home hugged for what we thought was the last time and then just wait.
Disney ah, âWeâll die, but as a familyâđ
@@siul1141 fatherless behaviour
Connor and Joey: we've never meditated
Garnt,a former monk: It's just sitting innit
imagine a trash taste monestery experience. đ
It pretty much is đ
as someone who has tried meditating before, i can say that it's just advanced sitting
Honestly, Connor always coming in with empathetic takes is always so good to see.
He be like
"Yuh sure , thats definitely a bro take..
i can appreciate that but we could look at from this perspective too"
Neededđ
He saved Joe's ass on that ai stealing art bit
"Music is honestly so easy to make"
@@Spumoon beeps and boops
the guy has maxmimized charisma
10:55 I love how you can literally see connor calculating the joke in his head and then eventually laughing LOL
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After they died in the Hawaiian nuclear attack
I love how the lore meme is still ongoing. Hope it peaks again.
Is the meme back?
@@CDodger24 did it ever go away?
My father was diagnosed with terminal cancer and given 3 years to live. He did actually surpass that timeline by a year, but I wonât forget his last day. Where I live âdeath with dignityâ law was passed a few years ago and when things got unbearable for him, he made the decision to go that route. He told me âtoday is the day, Fiona.â And I asked him âWhat would you like to do?â He said he wanted to watch this football match he had been keeping up with. The family gathered around and we all watched it with him. Then when it was done, he said âOkay. Iâm ready.â We all got to hug him and say whatever it was we needed to say. He went peacefully surrounded by family. I remember how upset the family was during the ordeal and just how chill my Dad was. I think when faced with death like that, you just have to accept your circumstances and he made peace with it all.
Iâm so sorry about your loss :(
May your dad rest easy man.
@@Icarus975 thank you so much for the kind words â€
goddamn what a legend, i hope heâs happy wherever he is now
@@eZaFVulcan thank you so much đ„čđ„čđ„č he really was a legend
May it be easy for you and let your life be guided to Truth
Ameen
this has genuinely been the best episode of trash taste with just the boys in a while. it has everything, hot takes on recent topics, weird thoughts, far off tangents, even a funny Garnt story at the end
And a genuine real talk topic, like it was honestly hard hitting to think about what you would do if you had a week to live and what not
True! I got kind of bored from the backlogs during the trash taste tour, so this was super refreshing.
Archaeologist here, just to chime in on the history part. I have been at excavations where we dug stuff that's 6k+ years old, I literally have pottery in my room, next to my desk right now that hasn't been touched in literally 6k years or more till we found it, this is what always amazed me and always will amaze me about my field, I love it.
Trash Taste:
'Connor trying to explain something'
'Grant laughing uncontrollably and loudly'
'Joey yelling his joke out loud'
AI when
@@bilditup1 Give or take a few years probably.
Dont forget:
Shitty food takes from Garnt
Shitty food takes from Connor
Shitty food takes from Joey
"SHEEEESH!!!"
That's a perfect explanation holy shit. You nailed it.
I was sitting in my bedroom, eating breakfast when I got the missile alert. I took a moment to process it, then called my parents, told them I loved them, and then hung up as the line was getting crowded. I prayed for a bit, then ate my breakfast because I figured I might as well not die hungry.
Did you die?
Was the prayer cause you're religious or was it a desperate act of fear
@joshuathomas512 I'm religious. It does seem to have worked, as I did not in fact die in a nuclear fireball.
@@fullparagon7468 There was no missile. There was never any missile. Before you even said your prayer, there was no missile on its way. How can you _possibly_ believe your prayer had anything to do with it?
@@claytonreeves150 We didn't know there was no missile. The message said that it wasn't a drill, so a lot of people took it at face value.
1:31:10 "Can you tell when someone is looking at you?"
I actually tested this quite a bit over a number of years and would stare at people from a short distance. Honestly it was surprising how often they turned or glanced in my direction, like they really could feel eyes on them.
Are you trying to justify your creepy habits or something
Thatâs interesting, because I can tell when someone is staring at me. Sometimes you see them in your peripheral vision, other times you just feel something and turn to look. Thatâs why I always follow my gut and intuition. It saved my life a few times too.
Im very oblivious so I probably wouldn't XD tho I do wish I could test myself
One time as a kid I was on the 4th floor of a museum in an area where you could look all the way down to the reception on the bottom floor. Being the annoying kid I was I thought "What if I stare at the receptionist lmao" and stared at the back of their head from multiple stories up. After only like 5 or 10 seconds the person working down in reception turned around and looked directly back up at me. I was so freaked out I immediately looked away and wandered off.
On the topic of the Hawaii missile, I just remember being woken up in the morning by this and feeling conflicted if it was real at first. Then you see the âthis is not a drill!â and a mild sense of âohh shit is this foreal?â followed by a bit of confusion as what to do next and a sense of panic surfaces as you decide how to proceed with the information you just received on your phone. However, Iâm not sure why, but I usually equilibrate my emotions in what might be considered high stress situations and was actually pretty calm like they mentioned people being. I was at peace. While I hadnât accomplished everything I maybe wanted I knew there was no reason to panic. I wanted to soak in my final moments.
Still unsure whether it was real or not, I went out side and sent some messages to loved ones(friends and family) as I figured they would appreciate it. I wanted them to have some sort of closure if it was real. I was at peace and accepted my potential fate. I sat on my porch steps in Kaimuki and looked at the Ainaâs beautiful sunrise sky, ocean, and land I had been living on/nurtured by. I was going to watch it come the missile come, maybe it was just morbid curiosity and apart of me didnât want to believe it still was real. I watched some cars speed down the street in a panic and hoped they got to see there loved ones one last time if thatâs where they were headed. Eventually we got another message saying it was a mistake and all was well and I laughed it off and messages everyone again saying Iâm sorry if I scared anyone and that I was going to be alright.
Hearing it back now gets me more emotional than it did then oddly enough. Gives me chills to think about it and to have typed this long comment out.
It really puts things into perspective though. While I donât wish anyone has to endure something like that, in a way Iâm glad I did. It makes you want to be more intentional about how you do spend your time here on this planet. Thanks for reading my experience if youâve gotten this far.
Thanks for sharing this! You gave me chills
In general, Connor is very introspective and rational , imagine if he loved books
Doesn't he?
@@myyou7335 fuck no. He barely reads manga even.
@@myyou7335 cannur doesn't read.
Imagine if he could read
@@myyou7335 he hates reading
I woke up to the missile alert, and I was only 14 back then. The best way to describe the way I felt was the kind of dread you feel when you realize that you've overslept for school. The feeling that you're supposed to be doing something, but not know what. It didn't help that my mom already left for work that morning, and I was left alone.
What I hate about the Art AI is that when we say it has stolen art everyone says we are crybabies but if we say it has stolen data they shit bricks
Because AI art bros donât realize what referencing is
I wonder what they would say now as I saw ai literally stealing voices and making songs for example Ariana Grande voice singing Billie Eilish song. It sounded good almost like real Ariana.
what do you mean with stolen data? I never saw this dichotomy that you mentioned but not sure what you mean exactly.
I also said this "it uses art form ppl that didn't consent to it" argument, but yesterday a friend said smth really interesting, that softened my view on that a bit: when you think about it, it basically just "looks at" other's art, so learn what words mean. And humans can also look at someone else's art and learn from it or even copy it or copy the style or take aspects of it and implement it into their own stuff, basically learn and broaden their repertoire by studying other art. And that's kinda the same thing. I thought it might use the actual artworks to make something like a collage, but the way it works is that it has randomised pixels on a canvas and basically "sorts" or generates them based on how the pixels were ordered on an artwork that it was able to "look at" and shared the same words as the prompt. Idk how to describe it well, but since it obviously can't logically think, it generates pixels based on what other arts with the same labels had in common. A real person can also look at references and it is not copyright infringement. It does not use the actual files or pixels out of another art work and combines it with others.
The issue with that argument is that all art is technically "Stolen" from rap beats using samples, to other artists borrowing melodies from OTHER artists to drawings that have the same style or use the same techniques. Its all "stolen" or "borrowed", this time though its just "stolen" from an AI, which is why I think that argument falls apart.
The REAL argument should be that it is MORALLY WRONG and that's it. Its morally wrong to take a humans job and replace it with AI. That is what I think should be the real argument about AI. And a discussion should be had about WHY its morally wrong. those are the important points that should be had and talked about.
@@allanhuseyin6370 in that case tho, it is just hypocricy to now react like that, when many many many jobs before visual art has been replaced by machinery or simply outsourcing to countries with cheaper production and so on.
Jobs just die out, that is normal. There are basically no seamstresses anymore where I live, manual farming has been replaced by machines that can harvest a field on their own, some places have self driving subways.... Many jobs that existed a hundred years ago are redundant now and many jobs that existed 30 years ago now changed to supervising a machine that does said job. That's just how it is in every field, but nobody made that big of a fuss about that.
I think the main argument goes a step further than just "is it morally right to replace a person at a certain job/let a job die out". Because I think that's fine, it's what is called progress. Many tedious labours can be automatised and ppl wouldn't want those jobs anymore anyways.
HOWEVER! I think when it comes to art forms, there is a point to be made about the human aspect of it. Art always meant to express something. Art is not made "to get something vital done". Art is per se not neccessary for survival. There is technically no need to make it "efficient" (and still shit like flower petal brushes and lightning bolt brushes exist in digital art, that makes you not have to draw it yourself anymore, but everyone is fine with that... đ€š Or in music with sampling). Art is created if someone feels the need to get something out of their system. It contains the very human urge to create and whatever the artist has in mind is produced. And it is honestly a gift to other humans that they share it and let us experience their expression.
That is what is completely lost with AI created art, because it is not deliberately the way it is. Even if my human art was to throw paint at the wall and not deliberately set brush strokes, it would still express that this is what I felt like doing at the time. With AI art, the user has too little influence on it, to say it is a depiction of their mind.
(I think the difference between the many digital tools artists already used to entire ai rendering is, the tools might have replaced the technical aspect of not having to draw a flower petal or a tree anymore, but it can be argued that at least the composition, the final visual product, is created according to how I choose to create it. If even that composition and all the decisions of colours and such is done by AI, then it simply misses the creative aspect of someone making choices)
You can tell Connor has many artist friends just from his view on AI art, like you can't help but be compassionate and the "grey area" of the debate fizzles out imo.
I swear if the boys knew they were going to die, Joey and Garnt would kidnap Connor and force him to play Persona
Followed by Garnt and Connor immediately turning it on Joey and force him to watch arcane
@@Hyvexx Then Joey and Conner forcing Garnt to watch FMA
ah yes the trifecta
I'm curious to watch connor play persona 5
I see the youtube video already
First, voice synthesizers of content creators. Then, deepfakes. Now, full on believable conversations. I'm just waiting for someone to create a whole bio-mechanical replica of the bois to run Trash Taste, then Joey can finally have time to think about watching Arcane
why biomech?
If now they can create photorealistic images, in a few iterations they will be able to animate them. Then they learn to synchronize video and audio. Then you just need the prompt: play a trash taste episode with headphones, Japanese politics and Sailormoon as main topics, and random secundary topics.
Ironmouse was already talking to AI connor not too long ago lmao
There's this channel called Jolly and 1 host not only deepfaked the other, he computer generated his voice and got an AI to converse with him to simulate the host under the guise of giving him more days off. Pretty interesting how it was all done.
he's not doing it. but we can make the fake-joey watch it
@@bzipoliand then summon Joeybot when arcane discussion come up.
the hawaiien missile talk literally shocked these memories back to me. I was on a vacation there with my family when we got the alerts. I was 13 years old at the time and when i saw the notification on my phone i didnât really understand what was going on. The one thing I vividly remember is that both my parents kept telling me and my two sisters (15 and 7) that we were going to be ok.
At the time they fully convinced me that we were going to be safe, but looking back now, I can only imagine how hard it must have been knowing the truth of the situation. I can only imagine what they may have been thinking at the time, trying to keep us kids calm and pretend like we wouldnât die. itâs crazy to look back now with that lens and just be in awe at how strong my parents were for taking care of the situation like that.
waitâŠI thought it was a recent incident until I looked it up and found out it happened in 2018?! How can I never heard of this? So why garnt fell in this rabbit hole last year?
I'm from Russia and used to watch you in Russian dubbing. But when I learned English better, I was able to watch your releases without translation
Good for you mate!
Great job!
Great Job, You must have put in some real effort to go form watching dub to without subs.
That's so awesome
@@purevert âformâ?
All I know is in Garnt's final moments he is gonna be pulling for that final SSR.
Finally with this last pull, I have all the Rin faces
@@kenmastersX The day after, Arknights collab with Skyflare, followed by a new Ishtar alt.
and pulled the wrong ssr at the final moment
Gatcha ofc
Server Side Rendering?
During the alert I was getting my hair cut. All of us in the shop got the alert. Hair stylist asked me if that was real. All I could say was,"Smoke em if you got em." The shop was within 3 miles line-of-site of the Marine Corp Base, which I figured would be one of the primary targets. If they hit the base then good chance we would be gone too. We went about our day and waited to see what happens.
balls of steel
Fun fact owls evolved to turn there head almost to 360 degrees, because they canât turn there pupils like we can, so they compromised with this ability
Not sure if I remember correctly but apart from that, the evolutionary benefit of turning their heads almost 360 degrees is to decrease movement and increase stealthiness when hunting prey.
I'm amazed by all the points Connor brought up about aiart, he was very delicate with it.
about what
@@maestrofeli4259 AI art
@@kactus1889 oh
yeah
In contrast Joey had all the subtlety and awareness of an ostrich with its head stuck in the sand, as is usual for him
and Joey just ignorantly claimed artist steal form other artist, like WTF
garnt and connor fighting tooth and nail to make sure joey doesnt get crucified.
As someone so interested in manga, music, fashion, video production etc. kind of shocking that he is basically saying stealing is a "grey area". He'd be so angry if it was his stuff taken. The boys really trying to teach him that.
bro fr.....really appreciate garnt and connor being the voice of reason for his points bc it's not ok
Honestly, I'm surprised that Joey is saying that. I didn't expect it from him
@@ohhello937 ai art is a grey area though like what ? I don't understand why you and others don't think it's a grey area both confusing and funny mostly confusing
@@voltaicangelo yea usually Joey doesnât stray away from widely held opinions on Twitter, unless, of course it involves a certain show that rhymes with arcade and a certain shonenâŠ
joey was very close to getting the entire art community into absolutely despising him
For real, I think as a musician he doesnât realise how badly regulated and unethical the AI art programs have been since musicianâs rights are being protected from this.
If you donât know, there are just blatant double standards between the AI art programs and AI music programs, since the music program ONLY allows copyright free music. These companies know that record labels will sue them in a heartbeat if their music is being used without consent, permission, or any royalties. They KNOW that small artists, even big artists actually, donât have the power, money or time to combat any of this, so it feels extremely malicious to artists specifically. Itâs just blatant double standards.
Getty images is actually suing AI image generators for using their copyrighted images without permission, itâs interesting to see where this goes since Getty Images is an actual company.
I was expecting that him as musician or at least someone that is closer to the arts than Garnt and Connor would understand
@@MrChannelforwatchingItâs also hella dystopian in a way
@@ssengageisop3952 If artists donât do anything right now to defend themselves, itâll definitely head in that direction. Litigation needs to happen right now to set a precedent.
he wasn't wrong tho.
wholesome cat story + a life lesson learnt: 3 years ago we adopted the neighbourâs cat, after we found out they left her behind when they moved (which is fucked up, I know âŠ) and had to survive on her own for a whole year. She came to our house multiple times throughout the day to get food or some cuddles form us, slept in our garage, layed in the garden, chased away every other cat that gets on "her" property, brought us the prey she catched and so on âŠ
In the beginning she was afraid of everything and everyone, but slowly but surely her very affectionate and cuddly side came through, after she realized that she found a safe place - because to this day I can't believe someone could ever left such a sweet, loving baby behind.
Something she always hated tho was being hold for more than 5 seconds. Giving her any kind of medicine or so was almost impossible, but sometimes I did it anyway, because tbh she was so goddamn cute, I just wanted to hold her! Until last summer when I was holding her and for some reason she was suddenly just fine with it? So I was standing there, just to fully absorb that special moment for both of us: her enjoying being held, purring, even closing her eyes while I pet her and me being somewhat honored, that she trusted me so much. Little did I know, that this would be the last moments with her, because a couple hours later she got run over by a car and died.
I guess how Garnt was saying: something in my brain chemistry changed on that day. I realized how important it is to just give all the love you have, no matter what and also to cherrish some moments, because you don't know when it will be the last time :)
To be fair, sometimes cats get left behind unintentionally if the moving process scares them and they get outside and hide. I live in an apartment complex and one neighbor almost lost her cat that way. She was moving out of state and the cat got scared and ran into the woods. Then the cat came back later that night begging to be let in. I fed and befriended the cat and left them a note, and basically the cat didn't like most people, only the wife and her kids who moved ahead of the fiancé who was going back to get more of their stuff. The cat would evade him every time. She had to drive all the way back to get him. If I hadn't contacted them, they would have thought he ran away for good. She was so grateful. I wasn't home when she came to get him, but she told me he came running out of the woods and lept into her arms and she was so grateful she was crying. So yeah.... They might have abandoned her, or things might have just gone wrong and they couldn't find her. It does happen. I'm so glad you took her in!
Sending a book from my cat to you x thank you for being that person with the empathy and love to take her in and give her a home x
I can relate so hard, there was a really sweet stray cat in my neighborhood, he came to my house from time to time to play and cuddle. Were getting ready close that every time i called him, he jumped to my arms right away. He was sleeping in our garage for a few days and i wanted to talk toy mother about adopting him.
One day I came home frome school and was horrified to find his dead body right in front my house in the street. He was ran over and my dad said it must have been recent cuz he wasn't there an hour ago when he checked.
I cried for two straight days, i was so attached to him and blamed myself for coming home late that day.
It's been two months and I still miss him when I look at him pictures.
The way my face dropped, I had something sorta similar happen, my naighbours cat would come stay over for days at time and would just vibe in my bedroom, he was a sweet tempered boy and just liked the attention. then unfortunately one day whilst following us up the road like he would he got ran over, we had to take him to his owner, poor boy died quickly in my mums arms, but im greatful he chose us as his second family. I Miss u Bobby
Why did you leave her outside???
I read a story somewhere, I think it was originally from Reddit so canât be sure if it was legitimate, but it was of someone who confessed to their crush when they saw the alert. His crush said she liked him too but it turns out she didnât and only said that because she though they were going to die and wanted him to be happy in his final moments.
It was Reddit. I remember reading that too
If it was true, sheâs definitely a good person ): But must have been awkward afterwards đ
I live in Hawaii and I was here when the missle warning went off.
I woke up to the warning and you go through stages, disbelief, bargaining, and mainly confusion. It's a weird feeling of "if it happens it happens" you can't run, you can't hide I guess I sort of accepted it. My girlfriend at the time woke up shortly after and just went back to sleep I guess not believing it but also having the same thought process of "it is what it is".
After the alarm was over and it was posted all over the news that it was a false alarm i just carried on throughout my day as normal. We planned to go hiking, we went hiking (pill box near lanikai) and it didn't really feel real. We all makes jokes about it now cause Hawaii doesn't end up on national news often let alone in a podcast 5 years later but I guess it did change perspective. I guess I was always at peace with my life and how it was going so I was fine going out as is. But seeing how much I've changed since then might have been affected by this event. I got engaged that year and im happily married now, got a new job in the same field that I still work at today. All in all life's good, it can end at any moment if you're not careful (car accidents, mass shootings ... America things, or just something out of your control). Just be thankful for the things you got and cherish every moment you have cause you never know if it could be your last.
I live on Oahu, but never noticed a warning besides the monthly tsunami warning test... was I sleeping? lmfao
@LR Artz they gave you the wrong warning â ïž
I live on oahu but me and my family slept through the alert lol
I was genuinely invested in Garnt's bird story
Bc he is one of the OGs in anime reviewing industry. He is a good storyteller. Thatâs why he is the GOAT!
As someone who experienced the Accidental Hawaii missle alert, I remember waking up to some of my family panicking about it and after like 5 minutes of looking up some information about it I decided to just go back to sleep
I was asleep when the Hawaii nuclear bomb alarm sounded. Nobody bothered to wake me up that morning, and had it been real, I would have been vaporized in my sleep.
literally that meme of
Missile threat: I sleep
New anime ep dropping: *r e a l s h i t*
to be honest though how pissed would you be if someone woke you up to tell you you had minutes to live?
These comments about reading the alert and going back to sleep are hilarious and gets me every time i read the
For the Hawaii Missile situation, I was a senior in high school at the time, I just remember waking up and hearing cars swerving outside my house. I got the alert and messaged my friends and family and kind of just accepted it and went back to sleep. Eventually we got the message that it wasn't real. Our governor is an absolute idiot, he forgot his twitter password and couldn't think of any other way to let people know it wasn't real. đ
Why would he need to use Twitter for such a major announcement, since not all people even have notification sounds on?
Omg same! I was at a school volunteer event and i just gave up. My parents werenât close and my sister was on the other side of the island. It was depressing, but yeah. Our former governor is hilariously stupid not even surprised
@@Edagui97 It was a stressful moment since at that time it was an accidental notification that was sent out and even the capital was trying to figure out what happened. And our governor just⊠isnât smart tbh lol
I feel like if something like that happened i'd want a 100 percent guarantee that we gonna die before i do anything. I dont wanna go through emotion and live like its my last moments if im just gonna continue living cause someone idiot made a false alarm
I was still in elementary and I had just woke up on the weekend watching when we heard the alert so I stayed by the window waiting to see the imminent doom coming from the sky. Really made panicked for a bit which let me think then I said Iâm gonna go out doing what I enjoyed. Watching dumb stuff on the internet. Then it was false so I just went back to my day still kind of shook.
In Ukraine, there is a saying, "If a rocket hits, it will hit". Having lived in constant air alarms for almost a year, I can say that you quickly get used to this over time. But the first hours and even days of the war were constant anxiety. There was no panic, only a feeling of anxiety for loved ones, oneself, and the country
Regarding the Hawaii panic... The worst story I've heard was 2 siblings were home alone, both got the alarm, realized they didn't want to die virgins and... Yeah...
There's literally a doujin about that
@@thecmoose4754 wot? You serious?
Shit. I just remembered that doujin. F U
@@thecmoose4754 where's the lamb sauce?
@@Joe_Joe1203 something older sister doujin a really popular one so probably not that hard to find
The "someone is staring at me' feeling is when our subconscious has pieced together context clues from our other senses and come to the realisation that something is there and we can't see it. Basically it's a realisation that we're being stared at and sometimes we get it wrong, but usually we're correct. If you feel like you're being stared at you likely are.
It's because we have other senses other than sight. Hearing, skin/touch (some can feel slight temperature changes).
Fuck off bro don't say that, it's 2 am while I'm reading this.
Welp, then I hope whoever it was at least enjoyed the show.
The human body is actually amazing
@@mooon_val your body is amazing đ
There was that one time where someone was streaming themselves drawing and someone screen capped it and had an AI finish it and put it out online before the streamer published theirs.
Same thing happened to a Korean artist on Twitter. They posted a WIP of their work, somebody put their sketch through an AI program, posted that finished result, and when the artist posted their final work, the AI user accused THEM of copying since he posted that final version first. He was basically trolling harassing the artist, AI right now has done nothing but demotivate real artists.
Honestly, the best argument I could think for Joey to reconsider the "positives" of AI art, is what if to finish Muira's Beserk, there was an AI made to analyze the story and emulate his art and the manga was completed via an AI programmed off Muira's legacy..? Like sure you might get something out of it, but it's not Miura. The art isn't the painstaking and beautiful art he made. The story and the art and the characters won't have the same heart and compassion Miura had for his work. It's all nothing but an emulation- and on top of that it was made without Miura's consent. I think we can appreciate the potential and development of AI as technology but as "art", it just isn't right imho
@@MrChannelforwatching thatâs probably the same artist, unless there were two notable instances of this happening
We should not blame the tools for the faults of the user. Is a knife the one in fault if it is used to commit a murder rather for cooking?
@@11_skalcarazrovickaeron81 artist a not angry an the IA. There angry it's not getting regulated by law's. People are making money from there work and that's allowed?
I mean I can't just go out, buy a cake, put sprinkles on top and resell it? Same Rules should apply here
1:32:46
Interesting note about dogs is that they developed many traits specifically for communicating with humans as they evolved and were bred over the centuries since they were domesticated.
For example, eyebrow motions were a trait they evolved to communicate with humans.
I was born and raised in Hawaii.đ đđ During the missle alert, I hid with my cats. At first, I was scared and crying while holding them and trying to spend our last moments together. After the alert was reported as a "false alarm" my boyfriend came back in the room to get me .(he wasn't concerned because he thought it was a false alert and / or figured we can't do anything to save ourselves anyway ) đ
you guys should definitely bring emily and daidus on again and talk about the ai art and get their opinion on it
Fr I'm so tired of seeing non-artists defending AI art
@@oomay1925 it feels less so that your tired of non-artists defending it, but tired of non-artist not agreeing with your view of the right answer
@@oomay1925 or watch any other artists on youtube about their opinion related to AI art
Meh, they're both annoying
@@jadendobson9614 If they had a point then that would br one thing.
But they ignore so much stuff about the issue that yeah, even if their answer is in the right side, it wouldn't be the right answer. And hollow disscussions like that are boring.
Me: Watches Trash Tastes for good vibes and to escape depression
The Boys: Lets talk about death for a half an hour
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Same. Wanted a chill atmo for bed time. 4h after the video, still thinking about the topics. But ntl a great episode imo
My dad was getting a midnight snack from the fridge a bit after we got our cats, and one of them, an orange cat, managed to get into the fridge without him noticing, and dad ends up closing the door to it with him inside of it. A few hours later, at like 5 or whenever, mom got up and was getting ready for work, and when she opened up the fridge to make some food, she finds that orange cat on one of the shelves, sitting next to a bag of leftover chicken with a hole in it, looking up at her like it was a normal occurrence.
Poor buddy, glad the cat was chill though
@@linkholder "glad the cat was chill"... yeah
Its always the orange cat
Finally Iâm caught up with all the episodes itâs been one hell of a ride Iâve been watching the podcast literally everyday all the time while driving,showering,before bed ,when I wake up I donât know what to watch all the time now đ đ
To go against Joey's "artists copying other artists" argument, while yes, artists can certainly copy artworks to the point of plagiarism (normally artists use this to do a study to learn about other artists' techniques - artists should never claim the artwork they're studying as theirs and so itâs not plagiarism - great master artists such as leonardo da vinci and van gogh have been learning art this way and pretty much every artist is), what a typical artist does is take inspiration of some element of another art (let's say pose, or colour scheme, or perspective) AND combine it with other skillset that they've developed for years to decades. That skillset and habits and nuances are what makes that particular art, the artist's work because that's something they've eventually developed into their own unique style. And that is NOT copying. If you think that's copying, then by that argument, you can say that all music, books, etc. are just copied and youtube videos are just copies of one another.
This! Agree. This is what I want to say too..
But isn't AI learning too by that logic.Only that it learns very fast due to insane computing power. Let's say if feed enough van gogh painting in the AI and now it can produce completely new images in this style.
@@animeking17 No the thing is AI art is feeding off of art that artists didnât give consent to being used! Thatâs the issue! Their art is being stolen.
While you can technically study any piece of art work to learn its techniques and replicate it, that itself is not plagiarism if you donât claim it as your own original work. Think university research papers for example. You have to give credit to other research papers you used as reference
@@animeking17 AI is doing what is programmed to do, it is not sentient
@@animeking17 "learning" for an AI is just layering different art work and noticing patterns to make an image. humans do notice patterns but AI can't understand alot of definitions and stylization methods of art. Its like if you ask someone to shuffle a deck of playing cards and they add yugioh cards, magic cards, and pokemon cards into the mix. All it cares about is just its a deck of cards. Nothing else. I used to work in coding and tech and ngl its all kinda soulless for AI or automatic systems.
Appreciate Garnt and Connor on that art AI thing. Connor's final words on the subject nail it. Was on Pixiv, I hadn't changed the setting to greatly reduce AI art suggestions/results yet because I didn't know about it and saw what I though was really sick stuff. After following the account and seeing a large batch of what appeared to be really high quality posts all dropped at the same time... something felt too eerily similar between all them, something not the same as "it's just the artist's style". I looked at the tags and each one was AI based. I liked what I saw but knowing it was primarily or solely created by AI put the nail in that coffin.
the same shit happened to me too. tho I didn't know there was an option to reduce ai art suggestions. I'm definitely gonna have to do that
Non-artists who keep saying shit like "just out complete them bro". Ignore that fact that AI art can pump out literally thousands or millions of pieces of art in the time it takes a traditional artist time to make a real piece of art. If Pixiv is flooded with AI art, then good luck getting your real art being noticed. But since most people aren't artists, they can't grasp the argument. So how about this. Comments sections are fun because real people can interact with other real people. If the comments sections were 99% bots, it wouldn't be much fun. And since bots can comment round the clock, any comment you make will never be read by a real person. Does that sound fun? It's not a way to build a sustainable system, and people who are defending AI as "no different than a real person's work" are simply not looking big picture.
My take is that if AI art can produce art that is pleasing to look at, fits my aesthetic, and is not being "offensive" (lots of gray area there), then I'm ok with it. It sucks that they fed art into it without consent but now that it's out there I don't see that much harm in people trying to train it like any other AI to produce gorgeous artworks for themselves or others.
@@PsychoDiesel48 I just don't fw mfs trying to earn money wit ai art, it just doesn't right wit me. there's a surprising amount of them on pixiv
@@mauri4140 Yeah, I mean sure the program does cost money and you have to try and feed ot prompts but selling AI art at this stage feels a bit strange. Still too primitive to really be worth the money imo.
Connor: "It's a lie. We're all dead." Dark timeline is leaking.
Joey speed-running the "worst take of 2023" with his stance on AI art.
Connor's AI music take was way worse than that. . . . . .
Truth
@@notme42069 Connor was trolling, Joey meant it.
best take u mean đđ
artists really want to have a moral outrage over everything
Artists shouldn't have to agree to anything about their work being used to train an AI because diffusion is a transformative process. It doesn't COPY your work, it USES it to make similar works. This process is not very different from artists USING other artists' works to come up with their own.
Regarding the Hawaii false missile alert incident, there was a girl at uni that stated they were in Hawaii for vacation when it happened. They started calling loved ones telling them their goodbyes only to find out 30 mins later it was a false alarm. Huge emotions were shifted that day when you genuinely think youâre going to die.
Joey is going to get flamed on twitter for the AI opinion đđ
Just another Tuesday for Joey
Not helped he goes full on broad strokes sounding like he does not actually know what he is talking about in some parts. Like, artists are stealing from artists: Uhh, yeah there are copycats and those too are not liked, but you also have artists using other artists as references which is okay. Also bandwagoning is a thing among artists.
he doesn't understand the difference between stealing and sampling. It's highly condemned in the art community too when people actually steal art and make a copy without adding anything meaningful of their own.
@@Neel5454 you should see what people call sampling in music these days. they don't even bother crediting anymore.
@@dummynodepanda itâs still trained off of stolen artworks. Itâd be another thing if it was trained off of stock photos or copyright free stuff like how the music AI does it. But the people who fed this machine had no care in world as to whoâs artworks they were using to train it.
1:00:00 documenting with pictures is good but journaling hits different, because you can relive your past memories in greater detail. Itâs truly amazing
i always forget that the false middle alert happened. i was in my preteens that the time and i remember texting my friends when i got the alert to make sure i wasnât the only one we got it. once it processed, i starting bawling my eyes out and telling my friends that i loved them. i was home alone just panicking and sobbing even more because my sister was in oahu at the time (weâre from a different island, she moved there for school) and i genuinely thought she was going to die. eventually i got picked up by my parents to go to my grandparentsâ house and things just went back to normal. it was pretty crazy but interesting to look back on it
YO WTF?! Garnt and Connor synced up at 11:12
The braincells are being shared too much at this point đ
Not only that, but Connor and Joey also synced up as well.
Itâs happening ! Finally they are beginning to share the braincell with monke now there will be one third for each
Only on trash taste can a conversation go from a serious topic like death, history and morality to something random like "what would happen if spiders were the dominant species"
Garnt predicting ai vtubers would be a thing in 5 or 10 years. Its been 2 weeks since this episode and nuero-sama the ai vtuber can already sing, react to videos, make commentary, and stream on twitch. The future is now, old man.
Crazy hearing you guys bring this up. Im in the U.S. Army and was actually stationed in oahu at the time of the ballistic missile warning, and living on Pearly Harbor. I was on my way to a 24 hr shift and when I got the message I just remember bing like "huh.. interesting" called my Detachment Sergeant and asked if I should still show up to my shift or if I should just stay home lol!!
I remember hearing a study about those intrusive bad thoughts. Specifically about deadly scenarios. Called 'Into the void'. It's been considered this is your brain running a "maintenance" check to make sure you are still sound of mind.
I just learned about "Into the void" from the Junji Ito wiki. Maintenance check makes sense. I think morning wood is also from our body doing a routine checkup on our junk
Enter the Void is an intrusive thought on steroids
Thatâs it! I was looking into it
@@cycbuild that makes an awfull lot of sense, like, trigger the morning wood to acknowledge the pp
I wanted so badly for Joey to say âlook at all these patrons, they shit the fear out of themselvesâ
What a good episode. I'm intrigued at any second of this. Hearing all these stories and thoughts really make me think to myself about deep stuff. And the wholesome story from garnt really make this episode 100 times better.
1:20:21 this area of design is called biomimicry/biomimetics. Itâs absolutely fascinating and I wish there was more public awareness of it, Iâm glad the boys brought it up!
Thereâs some great heavy novels out there that discuss it, Iâll shout out âBiomimicryâ by Janine Benyus, and âThe Sharkâs Paintbrushâ by Jay Harman in particular
9:04 What Grant is describing is called an adversarial AI. The problem with his idea is that the original AI can then be trained to avoid detection by training it with the adversarial AI's output. This has essentially created an AI arms race.
It could, but someone would need to do that-either the AI would have to be trained on its own outputs from user prompts, or the user would have to place them somewhere the AI would pick up (so eg ChatGPT would need to stop limiting itself to being based on the content of the internet circa 2021). I am not sure that feeding the output of an AI to itself gives it information that can be used properly-âuse this and this and this lessâ could potentially undo what makes the AIâs writing effective in the first place. That said, I do wonder if a slick enough prompt could elicit something legible but less easy to recognize as written by an AI...
@@bilditup1 Researchers have already been using adversarial AI training for a while now. In fact, that's exactly how GANs work.
Also, I need to clear up a misconception you have. The AI doesn't take it's own output directly as input, it feeds its output into another AI that checks to see if the art looks AI generated (with 0 - 100% certainty). The first AI then uses the second's output to fine tune its output as needed to get the certainty lower.
The "What would you do with 1 hour to live?" discussion reminds me of that quest from Majora's Mask where that couple gets married with 5 min left before the moon crashes.
This is unironically one of my favorite episode of Trash Taste. Great conversations!
Idk why but I noticed that half the episode Garnt and Joey are talking and laughing meanwhile Connor has that thousand-yard stare (44:05) đ
He just like me fr
The Hawaii conversation reminded me of when we thought there was an actual shooter in our high school. Not entirely the same as we didn't know for sure whether we would die or not, but it definitely is emotional. I remember texting I think my mom and just telling her that I loved her. Thankfully, it ended up being ok like 30 min later
I live in Hawaii and was in middle school when the alert went out, which made me rethink my life. At that same school we also had a school shooting threat. And the FBI showed up with shotguns and rifles since their headquarters was like a mile away from our school. But it turned out to be fake threat and everything was okay. But that was in the same school year as the missile threat, definitely a year to remember. đ
I would like Joey to read "Tradition and the Individual Talent" written by poet and literary critic T. S. Eliot. When creatives take from other creatives, it's called continuing the tradition.
This episode is a contender for best episode of the year, I was engaged the whole time, every single topic was a banger.
About the whole "history graffiti" topic, there were Norse runes on the Hagia Sofia that translated to "Halfdan carved these runes". So we got played by a Norwegian from ancient times.
In this episode, the boys confront their thoughts of mortality and are subtly terrified by the passage of time. Stick around for this week's fill of existential dread.
would love to see them talk abt the new puss in boots movie that's about mortality
Also Mantis shrimp
I think the big flaw in joey's argument of humans artists steal from human artists is that outside of areas like writing coding and music where you can literally steal code or melody (whilst you'll need to know the how to work around that melody/code for it to be useful at all), art in terms of drawing and painting require similar skills to the original artist to mimic their craft and even to that extent can't steal parts of your art 1:1, whilst AI is unable to actually draw and instead merges others artwork together to make a piece.
Yeah... You probably forgot about "art tracing". There were quite a lot scandals in the last year in VTubing sphere alone, with people trying to sell others artwork with slight edits or recolors.
@@Modeon666 Yeah, thats a thing, but that doesnt make it okay nor justify ai art stealing human art. Both are bad. Humans shouldn't steal, machines shouldn't steal.
@@Modeon666 And it's frowned upon in the art community. Are you really saying like "Oh, this thing is bad, so we might as well just let AI do that same bad thing, on an industrial scale"?
@ProjecktDieTraum if you post an image to Twitter. Which you put in a public space in which you consent to the image being publicly hosted and available is it theft? If your original piece can't be found in a single piece generated Is it theft? Honestly it just sounds like artists are going through the same thing manual labor did during the industrial revolution and are using the exact same talking points to demonize it. "That digging machine, can't dig as fast as a person." "That welding robot copies the quality and strength of Jim's welds" these aren't new things at all. It's just creative jobs are being targeted and honestly it's only going to be low skill art that's going to be impacted. Having worked in the commission space the amount of people who sell art out of templates that aren't worth the high prices they ask is too many. Connors take that artist are undervalued hasn't seen some of the ridiculous prices some people charge for non original art that they used a template to create.
@@deadbeats9466 Bruh, it is theft. That's not even an argument. It's common courtesy that you ask the artist before you use their art anywhere. Period.
I usually listen on spotify but I wanted to come to CZcams and say that this is definetly my all time favorite podcast episode.
What Connor is describing about birds being still in mid-air is called "hovering flight" and a few different birds of prey can do it such as Peregrine Falcons. They can watch their prey from above without moving. It's pretty cool.
I just finished listening to the entire podcast and I have to say, it was incredibly thought-provoking and engaging. The discussions about AI and art, the nature of God, and the different personalities of animals were all so interesting to hear. I especially loved the anecdotes about the cats and birds. The hosts had great chemistry and their conversations flowed naturally. I also appreciated the different perspectives that were brought up during the podcast. I highly recommend this podcast to anyone who is curious about the world around them and wants to engage in thought-provoking discussions.
Itâs thought provoking until they start talking about pizza crust and chicken
1:06:30
My Grandmother on my dad's side grew up in the Netherlands while it was occupied by Germany During WWII and is still alive today. when I was a kid, she lived literally two houses down the street from us, so we visited all the time. I had (and still do have) a very strong interest in history, so she would tell me the stories of her own experiences and those of her friends and relatives during the war.
These ranged from day-to-day life under the Nazi occupation, seeing air battles happening overhead, and the acts of resistance they did to undermine the occupation and to hide people that the Germans were after.
For me these stories from a small group of normal people who are close relatives, or at least second-hand acquaintances of mine helps me empathize with the people and events of WWII that often seem so far removed from our world today.
It also helps me empathize with other time periods as well; because after all, everyone who was around during any historical event was just an ordinary person who had friends and relatives, and memories and things like favorite colors, and fears, and hopes and dreams, and anything else big or small that makes us human.
Connor would wonder if he could squeeze in one match of TFT if he had an hour to live
This episode is awesome and Grant is so good at telling stories
30:00 fun fact, while itâs not exactly a speedrun, something similar already happened back in 2018. Three machine learning researchers from Germany were trying to teach an AI how to play the desktop port of Q*bert when it suddenly performed a exploit nobody had ever seen before allowing it to rack up and infinite number of points.
People at my school have been called down to the principle for even just looking at AI sites (like ChatGBT) because they've been using it to write essays. It's actually a pretty big problem, and they're starting to make more paper assignments for that exact reason đ It's scary how accurate the AI can be
Canât you just take what the AI wrote and write it down and turn it in. Still so much room for error.
@@SnowAnayathatweirdgirl I'm assuming they mean timed, in-class paper assignments.
Luckily, my HS hasn't started to notice a problem with it yet. Tbf, I'm pretty sure me and maybe like 20 other people max know about it and I'm the only one using it to generate evidence for some historical topics I'm too tired to research
@@Tymptra aahhh that makes sense.
@@Tymptra That's just am exam not an assignment
Garnt, as someone else with adhd, I understand your memory and it is also my memory. Thanks for being open, it really does help.
That whole conversation about our perception of time is one of the best conversations on this podcast Iâve ever heard
Bro, the subreddit and twitter is gonna have a field day on Joey's take about AI art, I can already sense thatđ
dude seems the most confused out of the three
@@joshuathomas512 the most rational. It is the same debate the factory workers had in the previous century.
@C. K. idk if taking the middle ground or "grey area" is always rational. Sometimes it's better to have a harder stance on something and his way of seeing it both ways were not very strong imho.
AI art and all discourse surrounding it can be so polarizing. I found myself getting unreasonably angry whenever people try to defend AI art at all, but anger only leads to problems.
Iâm an artist, and I appreciate how you guys explained your viewpoints, as well as Connor speaking up on artistâs works being stolen and used without permission.
Keep your heads up though, fellow artists. I believe a current lawsuit is being made against certain AI art programs and laws are slowly catching up. Stay hopeful that your creative rights will be protected.
Your creative rights is not a real thing
â@@GoldenMechaTiger as well as your human rights
@@GoldenMechaTiger Please don't speak ever again
I don't think anyone who doesn't understand how an AI works should complain. It doesn't copy paste art. If your art is on the internet, anyone can download it and use it for training. You can never stop AI. Just like you can't stop the evolution of technology.
@@Learnean This is not about the advancement of AI technology itself but about people behind it, profiting off of the AI mimicking other, real, human artists' work. Another issue is that 99% of the artists whose work is being copied didn't consent to it. I think you yourself have a fundamental misunderstanding of what art in its original form is. Yes, anyone can copy your artwork and use it for their own profit if you post it online, but is it morally okay? Of course not! Why would this be any different?
It's always fun listening to people talk about "Calling to the void" intrusive thoughts. The best explanation I've heard was it's the brain trying to prepare itself for the worst action possible. When driving, swerve into traffic or off the road. Walking along a cliff, jumping off or hyper focusing on slipping on the edge. All of it is natural and it's ok to have them.
3:06 hahaha
Connor: Guided meditation...
Joey: What do you mean?
Connor: We should guide the viewers how to meditate!
Joey: Do you meditate?
Connor: FUCK no !
When I was little, we had this dog, Lady. She was mute but hyperactive. She would disappear from our home once a week, only to come back after 1-2 days. Apparently one of her brothers lived in a house down the street and she went to visit him regularly.
Thatâs basically the first few min of Lady and the tramp! Is she a cavalier or a cocker spaniel?
That is so precious!
Another Friday, another TT episode with the bois
Indeed
I don't even go out on Fridays anymore, I just chill with the bois.
*bots
And they upload at night for me, so bedtime stories with the bois
This is probably Trash Taste's most insightful episode ever!
This is one of the most enjoyable episodes for some reason, you guys are the best !
I was in Hawaii during the missile message; I was working at a restaurant as a dishwasher and I didn't look at my phone the whole shift and realized I got the message after the shift. Not one of my coworkers told me about it or was visibly concerned. I didn't really make a big deal about it when I got it either, it's weird how much lack of investment I had in the situation đ
For nearly an hour the whole island was in a panic and you were just cleaning dishes đ
Fr I think I slept the whole time đ nobody woke me up
14:40 was not expecting Joey to take that argument lol; you can see Connor and Garnt coil đŹ Ya of course artists unfortunately get their work stolen often regardless of AI, but the issue is that AI is like a whole system that makes its "art" entirely by stealing from artists. I think AI is incredibly impressive, and it's amazing to see how fast it's been improving as of late. I just hope people never stop appreciating the humanity of the arts lol- whether it be drawing, music, writing, etc.
Nah people would eventually stop caring about humanity in general and soon we will be cocoons for our Lord AI machine.
So humans using AIs as a tool to help them create creative works shouldn't be considered human arts then?
If an writer AI helps someone that has a story in their mind but not the talent nor time to do it, should that work be dismmised then simply because it was written by an AI but with human input?
Let's face it, AI arts in any form would actually help humanity far more than you think it would hinder them. It would result increase amount of works due to the fact that everyone can use it. Would it result in a lot of trash? Sure but also good works.
Compare this to current situation where artists that you expect for them to have responsibility and moral to not use their power to push agenda and politics. Disney, HBO, Amazon with their woke products and we the normal folks can only complain. But with AI? We can create alternatives that would actually gave these corpos reason to make their product better.
@@secondsein7749 I"ll bite, some folks who use AI to create arts or other medium and claim that their results are still their own art and NOT the AI art is wrong for me and also a problem as well, consider that art supposed to be your own ways to convey and express something with your own interpretation.
Simplest example would be the different styles and methods that mangakas have and can draw. If someone asked them mangakas to draw a face, they could but with different styles based on their own ways.
Is AI way more efficient and easier? Yes. But I would much prefer human art cause I know and appreciate art based on their own thing than with machine alghoritms.
Also using AI just because you don't like woke products is so NPC like.
The way he worded it made it sound wrong but I think his point was that ai art doesn't directly copy artworks it takes inspiration the same way humans take inspiration from other peoples art
@@IR-Fanthen it's an easy fix. The user comes out and say they use AI but did not use any protected works, and the input and editing is theirs. Shouldn't be a problem then right? But of course artists or anti-AI would change the goalpost and use other stuff such as the user didn't put in the time etc etc.
LOL. I would say those that accept monopoly and mediocre product being shoved into their throat is more of an NPC. Yeah have fun doing nothing while just hearing one side complaining about SJWs while the other produces garbage content.
So I live in Hawaii, and I remember the missile alert very clearly. I was getting ready to go to work, and both my wife's and my phones went off on an unfamiliar alert sound. We both looked at them, and pretty much looked up at the same time. We talked it over, and I said that I didn't think there was any way this could actually be for real. There had been some hubbub about the North Koreans testing missiles, but IIRC at that time they couldn't get them to launch properly to even make it over the Sea of Japan, so I figured there's no way they had a missile capable of crossing the pacific. If they did have such a missile, there would really be little to no reason for them to target Hawaii. They would certainly launch toward Tokyo before anywhere else. Anyway, we talked this all out, had a good hug and said our I love yous and goodbyes just in case, and then I went to work, because we also discussed the fact that if this were to be for real, there was absolutely nothing we could do about it.
Thank you, Connor, for mentioning that it is a real phenomenon that some who drive a way regularly will forget even making the drive. That happened to me a lot at my first job, which I had a great but not too long drive for XD
So many times I would be somewhere and just be like "I don't remember driving but I clearly did...!"
I just wanted to say -- love you boyz đ
Trash Taste has been my favorite channel ever since I tuned in at the beginning of this podcast
This seems like an ai generated wholesome comment
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from hot topics to philosophy, weird facts and banter, it was all over the place and I love it! Nice episode
The morning the missile warning went off I remember all our phones going off and me and my siblings just looked at each other and being like "well nothing we can do, there's no where to go" so we just talked stories with each other and hung out together.
My dog would escape the backyard pretty often, but would show up at the front door exhausted the same day after he went on what ever crazy adventure he went on. RIP Jak.
Here's a scary thing happened with our family. It was super late, and my father drove us from Disneyland to back home.... YEAHH HE BLACKED OUT ON THE WHEEL and woke up and went "OHH we're home now!"
Which by the way, was a 2-hour drive. Worst part of all, my mother, sister and I were all passed out in the car. With my DAD's autopilot kicked in and drove us back home.