For confused US based viewers, in Europe the prices include tax. So where US customers have to manually add it to work out what the actual price is, European customers don't.
And that's without Trumps suggested policy of taxing imports more, effectively tanking the GPU market. I believe it was something crazy high like 30-50%, which for GPUs and PC parts in general is basically just bringing back covid pricing for no reason. In the wise words of the annoying orange, "It's gonna be great".
I moved from Tampa to Santa Clara a few months ago and I’m thinking of purchasing a single family home there, but with real estate prices currently through the roof, is it still a good idea to buy a home or should I invest in stocks for now and just wait for a housing market correction? Looks like NVDA, TSM and AMD and AVGO are strong buys this week.
well you could put a downpayment on a home and as well diversify as much as you can into Ai, energy and big pharm. stocks like Pfizer and JnJ, ASML, MLM and S&P 500 ETFs. I’d suggest you go with a managed portfolio, but even those don’t perform so well, so it’s best you reach out to a proper fiduciary to guide you, that’s what works for my spouse and I making a whooping $738k in Q4 last year
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this and somehow the Ryzen 7 7700 costs 220€ in Germany and the X version costs 270€, idk why but even for new its awesome and my next upgrade but yea the used market will be great and the Ryzen 9000 performance isnt really big, I mean ~15%? rlly? man those extra performance u wont even notice in 1440p or higher xD
@@Shishio 16% IPC average, but no uplift in gaming has been announced yet, we'll need to wait for reviews. Also keep in mind, averages do a very poor job telling the story, as some things it may be way less while other things it may be way more. A 50% gain in one game while another sees no gain means 25%, but that game that sees very little may be a game nobody cares about. My ryzen 7950x is fairly often the bottleneck with a 7900xtx at 1440p. As a budget option, I'm sure it'll be great, but, getting 7800x3d performance with a full 16 cores will be real nice, and it'll get that same boost in other stuff too.
@@Shishio I'm on Zen 3. I can't afford New. This is not exciting for the perfomance or something. This is exciting because, the 7000 series on the used market will most likely drop below 200
My current Ryzen-9 7900 12C/24T CPU is such a solid performer in all aspects that I can't see myself building a new PC or upgrading to something different in the next 4 years or so.
Even with my gaming LAPTOP from 2021, it still plays every game super well. Most of the games that I'm playing like Valorant, Counter strike 2, Minecraft, and phasmophobia all play super well, all of them except for phasmophobia usually play at 200-300 fps easy. So I would say you have around a 10 year lifespan on that CPU of yours lol
I actually waited for the 7900 X3d to come out and decided that it wasn't worth the extra money and just bought the 7900x. These days unless you want, and can afford to be on the cutting edge you can wait a few generations before upgrading. My old I7-6850k built in 2016 was still plenty fast for my needs but the USB on the motherboard was beginning to fail so I had to upgrade. I probably won't upgrade this system for another 5 years.
@@Xamiakass yea My R7 2700X still runs beautifully without nothing stopping it, still couldn't max out the 8 cores 16 threads, only reason i upgraded to the R9 7900X3D AM5 socket is for the PCiE 5.0 support, my X370 chipset limitations was PCiE 3.0 🥺. But have to admit opening task manager and looking at 16 cores 32 threads dance before my eyes is pretty sweet
Don't forget everyone these are MSRP, NOT ACTUAL retail store prices. You can believe the price posted in this video but I would advise to expect a 15% minimum mark up.
But the prices are from a literal online store? AMD has been going pretty vocal about price cutting in spite of Nvidia and Intel, so I doubt they would allow their products to be sold at extreme prices. Idk I could be wrong ofcourse. Intel will be releasing their 15th gen on new socket by the end of the year and I doubt AMD has too much room to be playing around.
@iLegionaire3755, I am a bit confused by your statement. The Snapdragon X Elite processors use the ARM instruction set, while most games are developed for the x86/x64 instruction set. This means that the games may not be compatible with the Snapdragon X Elite processors.
VAT is a joke, I live in the UK, we get stung with VAT and higher taxes, would be cheaper to fly over to the states buy a CPU and bring it back in your case.
I don't think a flight is only $50 or so, but, yeah, if you buy something more expensive, or more of them, you can certainly get to a point where it is indeed cheaper. Though if you also factor your time lost for the flight, I doubt you can make it worth, unless you buy over $10,000.
Don't forget that in late 2022 when zen4 launched, 1EUR was 1USD. So msrps in EU were just straight up the us price + ~20% VAT. Now, 1EUR is about 1,10USD, bringing prices down in the EU by about 9% alone.
@@williamlaprarie3007 Yes, they do. The lowest end 7k beats a 5800x3d across the board and even more in non gaming. Not to mention the x570 platform is super limited when it comes to ports and m.2 support.
I am a new viewer, you said "as you can see" 10 times in a 10 minute video and did more variants on top of that. You can omit saying these words all together and just read the articles like the few times you did without saying "as you can see".
They can always update support for Snapdragon over time. I don't game anymore but do feel the price isn't tempting enough for me to switch from an x86 machine.
B650 Will get you by really good its just an X670 With a lower vrm and no PCIE Gen 5 on graphics card slot , some B650 Have them but they are priced almost at X670 Motherboards, An option you can choose a good b650m like asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 , gigabyte B650MDS3H or asus TUF B650M Plus Wifi , if you dont care about PCIE GEN 5 For graphics cards , Also to mention A620 motherboards Will hold non X CPUS With TDP Of 65w theyre decent but horrible in the upgrade path because of the CPU TDP and Horrible VRM, X670E are the best for now with PCIE GEN 5 For both nvme and graphics cards slot , while for B650 On some b650 have them , but if you have the money get an X670E motherboard or wait for the x870 motherboards depends on your budget, but in conclusion a decent B650 Will get you by really good.
Some of the games stuff on Snapdragon will be fixed over time (the kernel-level anticheat, etc) and some needs driver updates (GFX glitches and poor framerates) but... If you're buying a notebook of ANY sort for gaming, you're gonna have a poor experience. I use my X1E laptop for software dev and, if I want to play games, I fire up Geforce Now, which works great. And looks great on that 3k OLED screen 😁
If they actually fixed the CCD/v-cache issues that the 7000 series suffered performance limitations from (aside from the 7800X3D, who's design avoided such limitations, hence the performance reputation), I'm gonna buy one IMMEDIATELY. Can't wait to see the benchmarks once they all release!!!😁
What's the difference in the 5800 XT that I'm run now been monitoring the CPU usage while I game Max settings i used 4% of the CPU have a power color 7900 XT video card 32 GB Edition 64 gig system Ram
And knowing us in Europe because of import tax we will be paying even more than what’s listed here especially when in the first few months there is barely any stock
I heard that the newest 9000 series chips are smaller and that 4nm compute die is not much more expensive than it was in 7000 series so the result is lower cost for AMD. But I believe they simply ordered silicon and need to sell it. It would be DOA if the prices of new one would be at least MSRP of old series as old ones are already being sold for significantly lower prices. There is maybe certain expectation of Intel Arrow lake and AMD wants to convince as many buyers as possible before Intel steps in. Also 3D variant of Ryzen 9000 is close to come.
Im pumped for the ryzen 9000 release, only so i can get a ryzen 7900 at a reasonable price, i need the 65w tdp and 12 cores so i can build my home server and am shocked i can get a 7900x3d for way cheaper than the 7900 currently (24 bay / 4u jbod with virtualization being planned and case is now shipping to me)
This prices in € just multiplied with 0.85 and you will get approximate price in US in U$. For example R7 9700X is 400€ x 0.85 is 340$ what will be near MSRP in US.
I can't wait to see both Ryzen 7000 Series and Ryzen 5000 Series retail prices lower by a fair amount. Ryzen 5000 Series has been marked down by about 33% two years since it was released.
I believe the Ryzen 9000 series is gonna be like what 5000 series was back then. I am still using my ryzen 5 5500u igpu lenovo laptop. Plays casuals games very well(Dont play more than 1hr or 2 max. This aint a gaming laptop. ) Well I plan on using it for 3-4 yrs more atleast till I am done with my college. Best student/work laptop I ever got my hands on. It costed me about 42000 INR on sale which is roughly about 500USD which was pretty cheap compared to it's intel competitors. It's still fast af and sorry for my bad english.
damn. I was ordering one already. my old machine blown charging chip on Monday. I literally said I want to replace old 1060max-q laptop, and he heard it, blown a fuse, when heard I will go for ai 9 370 amd without gpu and get about twice fps, at ~60W instead of 180W. laptop was listed at 5999 polish which is about 1 399,76 euro. (with 32GB of ram, and 2TB 4.0 disc)
waiting for the 10000/11000. or massive price cuts. just got my 7500f last december. i think this will last me 3 to 5 years more or until the end of am5 era.
People who are genuinely hoping for gaming to reach the same heights on ARM as it did on x86 need a reality check, I think. Be glad for more battery life, but don't expect equal performance from a chip that lacks every instruction set out there made specifically to boost performance in such scenarios...
That'll literally be a checkbox in visual studio. The real roadblock is gpu performance. I have little doubt lower spec MS games like minecraft will have ports on more or less day 1.
if you are a gamer just go 7800x3d and be done with it, it will be a long time before its obsolete. 9k series is not gonna be anything special, even amd said it wont beat the 7800x3d..
They're still supplying a lot of Zen3 chips on server contracts and whatever doesn't pass as usable for servers, gets turned into a consumer chip. And I guess they had a lot of CPUs that were a bit better than existing models, that's why they released new "products" to better value them.
Overly animated with the arms. Take about 20% off the top. All in all the channels heading in an ok direction with the facecam, and the less emphasized voice inflections. Great job.
Would be nice if they drop bios update ot chipset thqt allow 5800X3D to overclock, currently clocked my blck from 100 to 102 to move from 4.45Ghz to 4.54Ghz and hit Vcore limit is not fun, max goes 1.3Vcore but would be nice to rise up Vcore and use PBO negative curve-30 all cores would be amazing. All my cores goes stable att load 4.54Ghz.
A CPU emulating another CPU is always bad, that's why Java and .NET are just bad solutions, slow, laggy, hanging, crashing, the works; it's a bad Virtual Machine. The best possible solution is a proper implementation with the corresponding API, or a well done VM, but there's no need for a VM, all software makers, should cooperate and coordinate efforts to develop a proper Elite X API/HAL, and then recompile software as needed. It's a Common problem, so it should have a Community Solution
Comparing Java and .NET to hardware emulation is just wrong; not even the same thing. And Java and .NET are none of the things you say. They are both fast and mature and well suited to their uses.
@@saultube44 you have no idea what you are saying, silly kid. I don't have to prove anything to you. It looks like you don't have any experience. Go find some before you speak.
Wowsers, makes me want to make a new computer and bring it to work and end up gaming like a mug. Except for the fact that I should be working at work not gaming :)
not really jaw dropping.The 9700x thats still $150aud more than last gen release price and costs the same as last gen x3d but non x3d. keeping in mine its the 9700x not even 9800x so that one will be higher again by more than 17%
But Microsoft is only a 3 triilion dollar company, sometimes being the most valued company in the world, depending on how the stock goes that day. You can't ask them to deliver properly on something on their 3rd try, something that Apple did in their first try, 4 years ago. /s
I though the same until he started filming himself (several years ago). Since I didn't actually met him in real life, I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think it's actually his voice.
Honestly, until these CPUs are powerful enough to compensate for shitty game optimization, im interested. I spent $1000 on a 5950x at launch, and now its a MASSIVE bottleneck on my system Because these lazy game devs cant figure out how to use more than 1 core.
Probably swap my 3700X for a 9950x Curious to try out ai inference on that... But in the meantime... New motherboard, New RAM, it would also be the good Time to change my W10. Ah ... Work
For confused US based viewers, in Europe the prices include tax. So where US customers have to manually add it to work out what the actual price is, European customers don't.
In the US, the average sales tax rate on online storefronts is 8 to 9.25%. So it would be 299 * 1.0925 for a price of 326.65.
What confusion?
US tax depends on which state you're in. Some states don't have sales tax
Unless your in Montana I’m not but
And that's without Trumps suggested policy of taxing imports more, effectively tanking the GPU market. I believe it was something crazy high like 30-50%, which for GPUs and PC parts in general is basically just bringing back covid pricing for no reason. In the wise words of the annoying orange, "It's gonna be great".
I moved from Tampa to Santa Clara a few months ago and I’m thinking of purchasing a single family home there, but with real estate prices currently through the roof, is it still a good idea to buy a home or should I invest in stocks for now and just wait for a housing market correction? Looks like NVDA, TSM and AMD and AVGO are strong buys this week.
it’s a personal decision, but according to Forbes, housing activities will remain stagnant for the most part of the year, so maybe hold off a little.
well you could put a downpayment on a home and as well diversify as much as you can into Ai, energy and big pharm. stocks like Pfizer and JnJ, ASML, MLM and S&P 500 ETFs. I’d suggest you go with a managed portfolio, but even those don’t perform so well, so it’s best you reach out to a proper fiduciary to guide you, that’s what works for my spouse and I making a whooping $738k in Q4 last year
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OMG AMD You just keep getting better
AMD & RADEON just rules !
This is big
2nd hand 7000 chips might actually drop to really really good prices
this and somehow the Ryzen 7 7700 costs 220€ in Germany and the X version costs 270€, idk why but even for new its awesome and my next upgrade but yea the used market will be great and the Ryzen 9000 performance isnt really big, I mean ~15%? rlly? man those extra performance u wont even notice in 1440p or higher xD
@@Shishio 16% IPC average, but no uplift in gaming has been announced yet, we'll need to wait for reviews. Also keep in mind, averages do a very poor job telling the story, as some things it may be way less while other things it may be way more. A 50% gain in one game while another sees no gain means 25%, but that game that sees very little may be a game nobody cares about. My ryzen 7950x is fairly often the bottleneck with a 7900xtx at 1440p. As a budget option, I'm sure it'll be great, but, getting 7800x3d performance with a full 16 cores will be real nice, and it'll get that same boost in other stuff too.
@@Shishio I'm on Zen 3. I can't afford New. This is not exciting for the perfomance or something. This is exciting because, the 7000 series on the used market will most likely drop below 200
@@skorpysk unfortunately, i have trust issues with new cpu.
There already reaching half the cost of zen5
My current Ryzen-9 7900 12C/24T CPU is such a solid performer in all aspects that I can't see myself building a new PC or upgrading to something different in the next 4 years or so.
Even with my gaming LAPTOP from 2021, it still plays every game super well. Most of the games that I'm playing like Valorant, Counter strike 2, Minecraft, and phasmophobia all play super well, all of them except for phasmophobia usually play at 200-300 fps easy. So I would say you have around a 10 year lifespan on that CPU of yours lol
I'm still rocking my 3950X, I'm hanging onto it until a new AM socket comes out, so my pc will probably be 10 years old by the time I change it.
I actually waited for the 7900 X3d to come out and decided that it wasn't worth the extra money and just bought the 7900x. These days unless you want, and can afford to be on the cutting edge you can wait a few generations before upgrading. My old I7-6850k built in 2016 was still plenty fast for my needs but the USB on the motherboard was beginning to fail so I had to upgrade. I probably won't upgrade this system for another 5 years.
still running 3900x here... it's been 5 years and i feel like it will suffice for another 2 years or so :D x900 series is beautiful!
@@Xamiakass yea My R7 2700X still runs beautifully without nothing stopping it, still couldn't max out the 8 cores 16 threads, only reason i upgraded to the R9 7900X3D AM5 socket is for the PCiE 5.0 support, my X370 chipset limitations was PCiE 3.0 🥺. But have to admit opening task manager and looking at 16 cores 32 threads dance before my eyes is pretty sweet
Don't forget everyone these are MSRP, NOT ACTUAL retail store prices. You can believe the price posted in this video but I would advise to expect a 15% minimum mark up.
This is price with 20% discount maybe for first month I don't know .
This is simply wrong. Stores almost always sell below msrp in europe.
@@shinoMusic does this include the 4090? show link..
Why would you buy markup?
Just don't buy it lmao
But the prices are from a literal online store? AMD has been going pretty vocal about price cutting in spite of Nvidia and Intel, so I doubt they would allow their products to be sold at extreme prices. Idk I could be wrong ofcourse. Intel will be releasing their 15th gen on new socket by the end of the year and I doubt AMD has too much room to be playing around.
I don't think anyone with 2 brain cells was buying these X elite laptops for gaming.
Snagdragon X Elite needs laptops with dedicated GPU's to see its real potential for gaming.
@iLegionaire3755, I am a bit confused by your statement. The Snapdragon X Elite processors use the ARM instruction set, while most games are developed for the x86/x64 instruction set. This means that the games may not be compatible with the Snapdragon X Elite processors.
Many US states also have VAT it's called Sales Tax
Qualcomm is great! Oh wait not if you want to use it as a PC.
VAT is a joke, I live in the UK, we get stung with VAT and higher taxes, would be cheaper to fly over to the states buy a CPU and bring it back in your case.
You still pay VAT in the UK? I thought it would have been dropped after you left the EU.
I don't think a flight is only $50 or so, but, yeah, if you buy something more expensive, or more of them, you can certainly get to a point where it is indeed cheaper. Though if you also factor your time lost for the flight, I doubt you can make it worth, unless you buy over $10,000.
@@Winnetou17 so 1 RTX 5090 and I'm quids in
@@Denbot.Gaming lol
It just works.. where have i heard that before... 😂
Don't forget that in late 2022 when zen4 launched, 1EUR was 1USD. So msrps in EU were just straight up the us price + ~20% VAT.
Now, 1EUR is about 1,10USD, bringing prices down in the EU by about 9% alone.
the number of the price anyway, still "costs" the same amount technically
Feels like Ryzen 1-3 Gen again!
Not at all bad prices and small performance gains.
@@ZackSNetwork Explain
Why Patrick and not Mr Crabs? In the thumb nail? Seems like a miss or a lack of understanding Sponge Bob.
Seems like when 7000 released they weren't selling too great. Prices were a little crazy IMO.
5:47 welcome to AMD Excavator. AKA-HD Radeon, not even RX.
I like what the videos have become. Watch them way likely since you do them with camera :) Thumbs up
Those ryzen cpu release dates are for preorders. Who knows when they will actually ship.
Solid work as usual 👍thanks GM just upgraded 7800x3d from 7600x now what am I going to do lol
Dude, the temptation to upgrade from 5000 series is getting stronger and stronger
Some of us still on 3xxx.
Yeah the 6k and 7k didn't offer enough uplift to justify the cost.
@@stephenxs8354 3xxx is just worse 5xxx, they're pretty close.
@@williamlaprarie3007 Yes, they do. The lowest end 7k beats a 5800x3d across the board and even more in non gaming. Not to mention the x570 platform is super limited when it comes to ports and m.2 support.
@PineyJustice I didn't say it didn't I just said the increases wasn't worth the cost.
I am a new viewer, you said "as you can see" 10 times in a 10 minute video and did more variants on top of that. You can omit saying these words all together and just read the articles like the few times you did without saying "as you can see".
I second this.
All I know is AMD isn't cutting the price to do you a favor
so what? it's called being a business, brother
Who cares why
Your choice. Buy what you like.
And intel is raising their price because... Trying to monopolize but failing 😅😂
You can always buy 5000 series or 7000 series at a cheaper price.
Lets buy AM5, I cant stop winning!, I cant stop Winning!, I cant stop wining
Intel can go to HELL !
so normal prices for the US?
They can always update support for Snapdragon over time. I don't game anymore but do feel the price isn't tempting enough for me to switch from an x86 machine.
@@dcikaruga Won't make it much better. Hardware sucks for gaming
I can't buy a low priced motherboard.
B650 Will get you by really good its just an X670 With a lower vrm and no PCIE Gen 5 on graphics card slot , some B650 Have them but they are priced almost at X670 Motherboards, An option you can choose a good b650m like asrock B650M-HDV/M.2 , gigabyte B650MDS3H or asus TUF B650M Plus Wifi , if you dont care about PCIE GEN 5 For graphics cards , Also to mention A620 motherboards Will hold non X CPUS With TDP Of 65w theyre decent but horrible in the upgrade path because of the CPU TDP and Horrible VRM, X670E are the best for now with PCIE GEN 5 For both nvme and graphics cards slot , while for B650 On some b650 have them , but if you have the money get an X670E motherboard or wait for the x870 motherboards depends on your budget, but in conclusion a decent B650 Will get you by really good.
I wish they where investing as much on the GPUs as well 😢
310 euro for 6 core cpu in 2024 is crazy.
yeh. rotters
"Slovenia has a whopping 22% VAT"
*Cries in Croatia's 25%*
If I don't connect a GPU to the motherboard powering this AMD 9900 CPU, can it power 1 or 2 , 4K monitors?
Some of the games stuff on Snapdragon will be fixed over time (the kernel-level anticheat, etc) and some needs driver updates (GFX glitches and poor framerates) but...
If you're buying a notebook of ANY sort for gaming, you're gonna have a poor experience. I use my X1E laptop for software dev and, if I want to play games, I fire up Geforce Now, which works great. And looks great on that 3k OLED screen 😁
If they actually fixed the CCD/v-cache issues that the 7000 series suffered performance limitations from (aside from the 7800X3D, who's design avoided such limitations, hence the performance reputation), I'm gonna buy one IMMEDIATELY. Can't wait to see the benchmarks once they all release!!!😁
What's the difference in the 5800 XT that I'm run now been monitoring the CPU usage while I game Max settings i used 4% of the CPU have a power color 7900 XT video card 32 GB Edition 64 gig system Ram
I just got a 5700x for 192 on amazon, the 5800xt seems like a weird part.
If gaming u shall take X3D near that price...
500$ with tax for 9700X? this is a jaw droppping price indeed, its actually crazy high!
Can anybody please tell me whether they have igpus. And how powerful are they in comparison to the older ones?
As far as i know the normal ryzen have a very basic iGPU for video display
What is the difference between the 5900xt & 5950x that has a lower clock?
Except 1 Euro = 1.07 USD. So after taxes and real rates, you’re looking at close to $700 for 9950x anyway
And knowing us in Europe because of import tax we will be paying even more than what’s listed here especially when in the first few months there is barely any stock
Nah scratch that In the first month or so stuff usually isn’t even available for purchase at all
I heard that the newest 9000 series chips are smaller and that 4nm compute die is not much more expensive than it was in 7000 series so the result is lower cost for AMD. But I believe they simply ordered silicon and need to sell it.
It would be DOA if the prices of new one would be at least MSRP of old series as old ones are already being sold for significantly lower prices.
There is maybe certain expectation of Intel Arrow lake and AMD wants to convince as many buyers as possible before Intel steps in.
Also 3D variant of Ryzen 9000 is close to come.
Im pumped for the ryzen 9000 release, only so i can get a ryzen 7900 at a reasonable price, i need the 65w tdp and 12 cores so i can build my home server and am shocked i can get a 7900x3d for way cheaper than the 7900 currently (24 bay / 4u jbod with virtualization being planned and case is now shipping to me)
This prices in € just multiplied with 0.85 and you will get approximate price in US in U$.
For example R7 9700X is 400€ x 0.85 is 340$ what will be near MSRP in US.
May prediction according to this information is:
R9 9950X - 549$
R9 9900X - 429$
R7 9700X - 329$
R5 9600X - 249$
I can't wait to see both Ryzen 7000 Series and Ryzen 5000 Series retail prices lower by a fair amount. Ryzen 5000 Series has been marked down by about 33% two years since it was released.
So basically the 9950x is going to be around 700 US
over $1000 Canadian, these are starting to get to gpu pricing.
if it gonna cost 659€ with VAT. In us i would expect something about 549$ + tax
Damn that ryzen 7 9700X is only 65watt tdp, thats cool
I believe the Ryzen 9000 series is gonna be like what 5000 series was back then. I am still using my ryzen 5 5500u igpu lenovo laptop. Plays casuals games very well(Dont play more than 1hr or 2 max. This aint a gaming laptop. ) Well I plan on using it for 3-4 yrs more atleast till I am done with my college. Best student/work laptop I ever got my hands on. It costed me about 42000 INR on sale which is roughly about 500USD which was pretty cheap compared to it's intel competitors.
It's still fast af and sorry for my bad english.
damn.
I was ordering one already.
my old machine blown charging chip on Monday. I literally said I want to replace old 1060max-q laptop, and he heard it, blown a fuse, when heard I will go for ai 9 370 amd without gpu and get about twice fps, at ~60W instead of 180W.
laptop was listed at 5999 polish which is about 1 399,76 euro. (with 32GB of ram, and 2TB 4.0 disc)
if amd can push its ram limits i'm in for the big step up
I want a 9700G with 32 or 40 CUs ....shame it does not exist
Anyone else catch the pny 4070s that was on sale for $250?
Get ready for the Price pump do to the fact there are going to be a shit ton of companies jack the damn prices up!
If the 9600X is $300us then AMD is going to have trouble hustling these chips.
yeah but u forgot to mention euro is 10% stronger then dollar so dont expect prices that low
waiting for the 10000/11000. or massive price cuts. just got my 7500f last december. i think this will last me 3 to 5 years more or until the end of am5 era.
your vocal range must be amazing
Pipe dream prices... Hyper inflation going to wreck those prices.
X elite is disappointing
People who are genuinely hoping for gaming to reach the same heights on ARM as it did on x86 need a reality check, I think. Be glad for more battery life, but don't expect equal performance from a chip that lacks every instruction set out there made specifically to boost performance in such scenarios...
Need to wait until we get more AAA games compiled for Windows for ARM.
That'll literally be a checkbox in visual studio.
The real roadblock is gpu performance.
I have little doubt lower spec MS games like minecraft will have ports on more or less day 1.
Sounds like AMD intends to kick Intel out of competition for good.
Dude, a bit of overproduction on the opening.
if you are a gamer just go 7800x3d and be done with it, it will be a long time before its obsolete. 9k series is not gonna be anything special, even amd said it wont beat the 7800x3d..
When ARM becomes popular enough on the desktop / laptop for game and GPU driver devs to care, then we'll see better driver support.
That won't happen soon , except if you want all games to look like nintendo clones without new mechanics and stuff like that.
I want a 5800X3DXT, but I guess my newly aquired 5700X3D will suffice. 😛
ARM is the FUTURE. That means, ARM support for x86-64 will improve over time.
But, it will be at least 2 years or more. . . .
Believe me, arm is total crap for consumer cpu, its already an ultra luxury product, it can never compete in price to performance.
Wooping 22%??
Sweden got 25% for most things
It sux that the new X870 motherboarrds releasing in late September.
i thought they won't make anymore AM4 CPU and just move on to AM5 so this just change my plan to move on to AM5
They are just refreshes no need to get them if you already have x3d
They're still supplying a lot of Zen3 chips on server contracts and whatever doesn't pass as usable for servers, gets turned into a consumer chip. And I guess they had a lot of CPUs that were a bit better than existing models, that's why they released new "products" to better value them.
Overly animated with the arms. Take about 20% off the top. All in all the channels heading in an ok direction with the facecam, and the less emphasized voice inflections. Great job.
Would be nice if they drop bios update ot chipset thqt allow 5800X3D to overclock, currently clocked my blck from 100 to 102 to move from 4.45Ghz to 4.54Ghz and hit Vcore limit is not fun, max goes 1.3Vcore but would be nice to rise up Vcore and use PBO negative curve-30 all cores would be amazing.
All my cores goes stable att load 4.54Ghz.
or just get a microcenter cpu + ram + mobo combo and get a 7800x3d for 200$
A CPU emulating another CPU is always bad, that's why Java and .NET are just bad solutions, slow, laggy, hanging, crashing, the works; it's a bad Virtual Machine. The best possible solution is a proper implementation with the corresponding API, or a well done VM, but there's no need for a VM, all software makers, should cooperate and coordinate efforts to develop a proper Elite X API/HAL, and then recompile software as needed. It's a Common problem, so it should have a Community Solution
Comparing Java and .NET to hardware emulation is just wrong; not even the same thing. And Java and .NET are none of the things you say. They are both fast and mature and well suited to their uses.
I just read the first part and smiled. You are silly :-)
@@jasonhurdlow6607 LOL Stay delusional
@@sebastiaanb9471 Prove me wrong then. you're delusional at best
@@saultube44 you have no idea what you are saying, silly kid. I don't have to prove anything to you. It looks like you don't have any experience. Go find some before you speak.
Did you notice availability is 3-10 days, dont think this is all that accurate
Looks like a massive market push with a product that has intel falling behind.
But isn't Apple's M processors not much better in graphics despite a much more powerful graphic processor - lol -.
Intel: we will never be beaten!
AMD in the Enola Gay:
Ryzen 9700x has a good price and this is price with 20% discount .
Are those prices real
A-zeus 😂
They may not drop Ryzen 7 prices in order to force you to buy the new stuff.
Wowsers, makes me want to make a new computer and bring it to work and end up gaming like a mug. Except for the fact that I should be working at work not gaming :)
They sound great but still out of my reach at the moment.
not really jaw dropping.The 9700x thats still $150aud more than last gen release price and costs the same as last gen x3d but non x3d. keeping in mine its the 9700x not even 9800x so that one will be higher again by more than 17%
Price is incredible? idnk 7950 looks more reasonable. lets wait real world speed comparisons.
We all know there is only one person in the world that can say "It just works"
The amount of money you save by getting zen 4 instead is gigantic. Almost exactly half the cost of zen5.
Doesn't matter how powerful Qualcomm chips are. Unless Microsoft takes emulation seriously, things are not gonna improve with arm
But Microsoft is only a 3 triilion dollar company, sometimes being the most valued company in the world, depending on how the stock goes that day. You can't ask them to deliver properly on something on their 3rd try, something that Apple did in their first try, 4 years ago. /s
"Whopping 22% vat in slovenia" Norway has 25% 😉
Bruh, is this guy using a voice over or is that actually his voice??
I though the same until he started filming himself (several years ago). Since I didn't actually met him in real life, I can't say with 100% certainty, but I think it's actually his voice.
Definitley not worth upgading over ryzen 7000, upgrading juts 1 generation up is never worth it.
I'm pumped 😎
normal price is 824euro and it has discont 20% 659euro for 9950x and so on
It just works
Honestly, until these CPUs are powerful enough to compensate for shitty game optimization, im interested. I spent $1000 on a 5950x at launch, and now its a MASSIVE bottleneck on my system Because these lazy game devs cant figure out how to use more than 1 core.
LETS GET NVIDIA TO RELEASE THE GPUS EARLIER 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Can't wait to upgrade from my 5900x to a 9900x
Probably swap my 3700X for a 9950x
Curious to try out ai inference on that... But in the meantime... New motherboard, New RAM, it would also be the good Time to change my W10.
Ah ... Work
@@lefourbe5596 building pc is therapeutic to me. Always something to improve and learn along the way.
4nm it should be cheaper...
Are you a robot?
I Even pay 200 more for Radeon & AMD, than giving less to bloodsuckers like Nvidia & Intel !