The Sad Story of Jimmie Nicol - He Thought He Could Replace Ringo Forever

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    Sixty years ago, in June 1964 on the eve of The Beatles' first world tour, Ringo Starr fell ill. Instead of cancelling the tour, small time drummer Jimmy Nichol was drafted in to take his place. For 10 days in Denamrk, Holland, Hong Kong and Australia Nicol got to experience what it was really like to be a Beatle, but the experience ruined his life. In this video we tell you how his story unfolded and why he disappeared.
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  • @ianhowarth2656
    @ianhowarth2656 Před 4 dny +45

    Man, one day you’re the Beatles drummer, the next you’re back to 9-5 realism. I would say that’s serious emotional whiplash.

  • @petergedd9330
    @petergedd9330 Před 3 dny +11

    You can understand how he felt when he was whisked away from all that attention. I can imagine Ringo was more than keen to get back in his place before he went awry.

  • @Peter-Burbank
    @Peter-Burbank Před 10 dny +157

    This is the best account of Jimmy’s time with the Beatles …

    • @decentlyandinorder
      @decentlyandinorder Před 4 dny +3

      He only missed the most interesting part. where when Paul and others asked Jimmy's son how Jimmy was doing. and his son related their interest to his father, Jimmy Nicol replied, "Tell them I'm dead." ... which Jimmy's son then related.

    • @annetterohla8932
      @annetterohla8932 Před dnem

      @@decentlyandinorder So if you watch from the very beginning , where the Beatles bring Jimmy a suitcase , Jimmy looks very uncomfortable and stern , and remains so throughout the performances . What's he so non - plussed and unhappy about? Was he the only straight Beatle ?Or the only non Fr**mason , and not from Tavistock . In other words , not a mini hat satanist ?

  • @Randgalf
    @Randgalf Před 4 dny +12

    Can't even begin to imagine the emptiness when departuring after having stood in for a Beatle.

  • @mauricerevelle8451
    @mauricerevelle8451 Před 10 dny +165

    Fair play to Jimmy Nichol he never really cashed in on his time with The Beatles, like a lot of others did, he could have made a fortune with interviews etc. He’s kept himself to himself. Man deserved a lot of respect for that.

    • @BuffaloC305
      @BuffaloC305 Před 8 dny +11

      I am hoping he had music dreams, not talking-head dreams which - of course - were left up to the fans and a smart and helpful marketing person.

    • @LazyLizzy706
      @LazyLizzy706 Před 5 dny +19

      He refused to discuss his time with the Beatles and also claimed that he wishes to not get any financial gain from it. He easily could’ve cashed out if he really wanted to but chose not to. Respect

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 Před 5 dny +11

      Depping is never fun, and fraught with all sorts of problems. I've depped for a name drummer, who shall we say had, a bit of a problem with drugs. Not my favourite experience, the band were self destructing, in a mess of egos and handbags at dawn. Me and the bass player, just buggered off down the pub.

    • @dondamon4669
      @dondamon4669 Před 3 dny +3

      He was paid alot to not speak

    • @jeffryphillipsburns
      @jeffryphillipsburns Před 3 dny +1

      He might have got a few interviews here and there, but I doubt he could have “made a fortune”. Subbing for Ringo for a week and half just isn’t that interesting a story, and interviews generally don’t pay at all, anyway. People submit to them so that they can promote something else.

  • @conorfurlong
    @conorfurlong Před 11 dny +139

    Whenever I hear about The Beatles’ itinerary, I feel like I need a lie down.

    • @IsmJism
      @IsmJism Před 10 dny +2

      HA - I get it!

    • @glennso47
      @glennso47 Před 8 dny +5

      I feel the need to take a shower. 🤮

    • @ss51-857
      @ss51-857 Před 8 dny +6

      They were young ...

    • @philipthompson8525
      @philipthompson8525 Před 6 dny +3

      @glennso47 .Yes A Cold One. Lol.❤

    • @conorfurlong
      @conorfurlong Před 6 dny

      @@ss51-857 I wouldn’t have wanted to do that when I was 22!
      7 fights to get to Hong Kong? “No thanks Brian, we’re successful enough, thanks.” 😂

  • @Paul-dw2cl
    @Paul-dw2cl Před 6 dny +30

    Hearing that George Harrison initially refused to play without Ringo all I could think of was Ringo saying, “I would like to play on the roof.”

  • @c.7610
    @c.7610 Před 11 dny +160

    This was one of the most fascinating half-hours I’ve spent on the Internet in a long time. Thank you!

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 10 dny +10

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @terrythekittieful
      @terrythekittieful Před 10 dny +10

      It sure was. Never a dull moment in Jimmy's brief couple of weeks with the Beatles. Hope he's doing well.

  • @JordyBoothy
    @JordyBoothy Před 10 dny +174

    George's loyalty to Ringo is very touching

    • @terrythekittieful
      @terrythekittieful Před 10 dny +39

      Yet he supported Jimmy and held no grudges towards him. John's warmth towards Jimmy and Paul wanting to meet him years later. The Beatles were genuine human beings. Makes you love them more.

    • @raulmacias6146
      @raulmacias6146 Před 10 dny

      Loyalty to Ringo? George ended up seducing Ringo's wife Maureen Cox Starkey!

    • @LapsangTe
      @LapsangTe Před 9 dny +25

      Though he loved Ringo I think that his loyalty mainly had to do with the fact that he felt insecure about his own place in the band. As he said in an interview many years later: "If they could replace Ringo, they could replace me."

    • @Neil-Aspinall
      @Neil-Aspinall Před 9 dny +12

      I think George could be a bit prickly and opinionated at times.

    • @Neil-Aspinall
      @Neil-Aspinall Před 9 dny +4

      @@LapsangTe Yes well spotted Laps.

  • @colinpiper4386
    @colinpiper4386 Před 10 dny +28

    The Beatles did not ruin his life. His brief exposure to being in their fame/madness, the reality of his comedown to ordinariness, was what plagued the rest of his life.

    • @RaptorFromWeegee
      @RaptorFromWeegee Před 2 dny +4

      Being poor is hard, but being rich and THEN being poor is much much harder.

  • @gram1608
    @gram1608 Před 11 dny +162

    I remember as a little kid in Melbourne being astounded by the crowds outside the Southern Cross Hotel greeting the 'five' Beatles.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +20

      That must have been an incredible experience!

    • @robertcalvin2643
      @robertcalvin2643 Před 11 dny +16

      I was 14 and not allowed by my mum to go and see The Beatles but I have seen the concert on video over and over again.

    • @juliosanchez95
      @juliosanchez95 Před 10 dny +6

      @@Parlogram Your channel is absolutely brilliant! It is interesting to hear Nichols play. While he did an adequate job, it really makes you appreciate the great drummer that Ringo was in the 1960s.

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra Před 10 dny +2

      @@juliosanchez95 How can we listen to Jimmy with the Beatles? Are there any recordings of the shows available online or otherwise?

    • @mauriceortiz8817
      @mauriceortiz8817 Před 9 dny +3

      Sad and informative; but wasn't Ringo first replaced on the first Beatle single, Love Me Do?

  • @Hazeltunes
    @Hazeltunes Před 10 dny +41

    Definitely a fascinating chapter in the Beatles' story, and ultimately a sad one. Just as an aside, one laugh out loud moment in the Get Back documentary was when the band were discussing doing what was to become their 'rooftop' concert overseas. Someone said Ringo wouldn't do it because he didn't want to go abroad, then Paul said 'Jimmie Nicol will do it!"

  • @georgepiet496
    @georgepiet496 Před 5 dny +26

    300,000 to see the Beatles was amazing. The population was under 1 million. My mother was there whilst pregnant with me.

    • @manofthewest67
      @manofthewest67 Před 5 hodinami

      So you were at the gig De Facto? I was 'inebriated' 40 or so years ago and saw the Cure De Facto at the Elephant Fayre Fesival and can not remember any of it, i feel your pain.

  • @stephenpitcher8755
    @stephenpitcher8755 Před 10 dny +32

    This is the best account of Jimmy’s time with the Beatles I have heard so far.
    He really has turned out to be a man of mystery

  • @derradune6722
    @derradune6722 Před 9 dny +73

    The guy interviewing Paul at 15:38 was Bob Rogers, an Australian DJ who accompanied them on their tour. In 1958 he introduced top 40 radio to Australia and was the first DJ to play the Beatles music here. His career lasted until his retirement at the age of 93 in 2020. He passed away in May of this year aged 97.

    • @Arya-1111
      @Arya-1111 Před 6 dny +4

      fantastic ...am in Adelaide SA

    • @frankflstf
      @frankflstf Před 3 dny +2

      WOW what a great story what a hard working man he must have been too last that long in the business 💪🔥🐐

    • @aliencat5345
      @aliencat5345 Před 22 hodinami

      Damn what a career. Retiring at 93!

  • @markwinters3079
    @markwinters3079 Před 11 dny +117

    Andrew, this is a really interesting story and very well-done. I had to laugh out loud when you showed the film of John sitting next to his Aunt Mimi on that long flight. The subdued look on his face was priceless. You know she had to have been an absolute kill-joy for him the whole trip.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +9

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 Před 10 dny +16

      John was very close to Mimi who supported him every way.

    • @markwinters3079
      @markwinters3079 Před 10 dny +21

      @@marguskiis7711 Yes, and to the day he died, she was not above correcting his behavior. He loved and missed her, and called her every week. She was the one person who Yoko could not overshadow in John's life.

    • @donniblanco5239
      @donniblanco5239 Před 10 dny +6

      How come I’ve never heard of this Guy??🤔

    • @cannotfindmyshoes3
      @cannotfindmyshoes3 Před 7 dny +2

      😆 Haha, yes, a bit!

  • @NVM_SMH
    @NVM_SMH Před 7 dny +48

    That photo of Aunt Mimi going on tour with John is gold. I don't know how many rock bands took their aunt on tour with them.

  • @asmukler
    @asmukler Před 6 dny +5

    If his life was ruined it was his own fault he had an experience that nobody else in the world ever got to have he should have just embraced it and been happy about it the rest of his life

  • @kirahastings9900
    @kirahastings9900 Před 10 dny +46

    In the photos of Jimmy Nichol at the time, he looked awkward and out of place in the Beatles line-up. Admittedly, I never gave him much thought afterwards. Thank you for this interesting follow-up.

    • @alancruzdominguez5074
      @alancruzdominguez5074 Před 10 dny +15

      Jimmy Nicol looks more of an Animals band member kind of thing jeje

    • @inverross9019
      @inverross9019 Před 10 dny +7

      @@alancruzdominguez5074 Apart from looking a bit too odd in the looks dept. - being a Londoner he just didn't fit with their Liverpool voices and Northern banter.

    • @ibberman
      @ibberman Před 8 dny +5

      John Paul George and Ringo, although all having their own individual look, they had a visual unity that really shows when you place Jimmy Nichol in the mix. He was visually very different. A more androgenic facial structure perhaps?

  • @lestorhaslam
    @lestorhaslam Před 7 dny +21

    Such a shame for Jimmie, a great drummer. Showbiz is totally ruthless, without compassion or feeling.

  • @gronxman1
    @gronxman1 Před 2 dny +6

    What an adventure! Jimmy did more in his short tenure with The Beatles than most other talented musicians could ever dream of. He was only a temporary Beatle but a Beatle nevertheless. He travelled the world with the hottest band in the world, partied with them and performed with them to a high standard in front of Screaming fans and television cameras. There's no shame here! What a story!

  • @CitizenCage
    @CitizenCage Před 10 dny +69

    To say this is "tragic" seems like an exaggeration

    • @NMagChiTown
      @NMagChiTown Před 4 dny +6

      Right. Decent documentary but terrible title.

    • @jamescoghlan8401
      @jamescoghlan8401 Před 4 dny +3

      Yeah, but clicks yeah? He’s got content to promote.
      His material is actually very watchable

    •  Před 4 dny +1

      Tragic??? I do not think so...😐

    • @petererb9463
      @petererb9463 Před dnem

      Pot and alcohol abuse is a tragedy, surely.

    • @roybatty4687
      @roybatty4687 Před dnem

      Hmm clickbait as suspected. Will not be subscribing to this channel.

  • @mrjohn9933
    @mrjohn9933 Před 5 dny +8

    A sad story no, he was able to grasp the gold ring and hang on for a while. More than most. Thanks for sharing!

  • @anthoniusalphaproject1588

    Well deserved honorable recognition in this video. Jimmy, nobody can take that fabulous time away from you.

  • @jxchamb
    @jxchamb Před 10 dny +9

    Hard to imagine that he actually thought it a possibility that he would replace Ringo. A little humility goes a long way..

  • @adrianmorris2628
    @adrianmorris2628 Před 11 dny +62

    I have always been fascinated by the very brief stint that Jimmy Nicol had in The Beatles. Thanks for the extra and interesting information Andrew.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +3

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @ALF782
      @ALF782 Před 10 dny +5

      There's a movie in that story.
      Why hasn't it been made.

    • @remixandkaraoke
      @remixandkaraoke Před 7 dny

      @@ALF782 Nobody cares.

    • @ALF782
      @ALF782 Před 7 dny +3

      @remixandkaraoke I care and I even wear a Jimmy Nicoll tshirt

    • @xrxs1020
      @xrxs1020 Před 6 dny +1

      @@remixandkaraoke ''Nobody cares.'' Don't speak of what you don't know.

  • @edgarsnake2857
    @edgarsnake2857 Před 10 dny +24

    Outstanding video on a sensitive slice of the Beatle's history. The phrase--Burnt by the sun--comes to mind. I met and spoke with Pete Best on two occasions. He was also burnt by the sun. None of it was malicious, sometimes things just work out that way.

  • @rodrigosilvamartins4983
    @rodrigosilvamartins4983 Před 11 dny +53

    "... Jimmy Nicol was relaxing on his couch, feeling pleased with himself". I loved how the character was introduced 😄 You're a great storyteller, Andrew! Thanks for sharing this fascinating episode and my best wishes from Brazil! 😊

  • @sguttag
    @sguttag Před 10 dny +61

    There is no question about it, your stuff is better than most documentaries. Nice job, again!

  • @acceptfilms9415
    @acceptfilms9415 Před 8 dny +8

    I like that he found a sunny place , someone who loved him , and kept his music alive.

  • @NewFalconerRecords
    @NewFalconerRecords Před 11 dny +38

    Just last week I was talking to an aunty (who I hadn't seen in 20 years) about her seeing the Beatles at Festival Hall in Melbourne when she was 14. She confirmed that you could barely hear the band over the screaming during the concert. But she told me that the crowd crush outside the Melbourne Town Hall was frightening. Once the crowd began to move it was super scary.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +6

      I can well believe that! Thanks for posting.

    • @chezzachezza7325
      @chezzachezza7325 Před 2 dny +2

      My mum said the same the crowd crushing young people

  • @redsparkle7839
    @redsparkle7839 Před 10 dny +12

    How did the Beatles ruin his life? His life probably would have been the same being a struggling musician. Plus, he wouldn't have even had that incredible Beatles experience.

  • @alphaofthebetas4780
    @alphaofthebetas4780 Před 3 dny +7

    I have been a Beatles fan for 50 years and never heard this story before!

  • @PrankZabba
    @PrankZabba Před 11 dny +36

    24:40 - Definitely a powerful photo.
    This is why I love this channel. Something always comes along and is kinda shocking to find out now. All the footage is just mind blowing that it still exists. And for some reason, why do I keep thinking that Jimmy looks like someone from The Jam?

    • @RAFchurchlawford4469
      @RAFchurchlawford4469 Před 10 dny +2

      "why do I keep thinking that Jimmy looks like someone from The Jam?" Similar outcomes? One minute you're in a famous band, next minute it's over ☹

  • @hariowen3840
    @hariowen3840 Před 4 dny +9

    Jimmie was under no illusion whatsoever, at 19:07 he clearly says that Ringo was much better than him and was returning on Sunday, and that he would be going back to London. Didn't you watch that bit then!

    • @danmontagano5676
      @danmontagano5676 Před 3 dny +3

      I think he was asked a question about how Ringo was doing and he replied “Much better”

    • @hariowen3840
      @hariowen3840 Před 3 dny +2

      @@danmontagano5676 Maybe so - but he was under no illusion about which one of them would be going back to London though was he.

  • @ScottSpotMedia
    @ScottSpotMedia Před 7 dny +5

    I'm not sure how tragic it really was for him, only he could tell us, but he got the opportunity to work with the Beatles, the greatest rock band ever. That's more than anyone else can say. Any artistic job has the risk of not paying off. If you can have some interesting experiences along the way, then it was worth the endeavor, and it seems that old Jimmie had more than his fill of interesting stories. I really don't see the tragedy of his story.

  • @gregsmith7949
    @gregsmith7949 Před 10 dny +15

    What a great video. There's something poignant and sad about that photo of him in the airport as he was leaving Australia and going back to obscurity.

  • @thefonzkiss
    @thefonzkiss Před 10 dny +28

    A guy who made his own bad luck. The book by Jim Berkenstadt called The Beatle That Vanished is a must read.

  • @AnalogueGround
    @AnalogueGround Před 9 dny +6

    It’s amazing how a musician’s short spell as a dep can become a big story - It shows how the aura of the Beatles never fades.

  • @davidm7840
    @davidm7840 Před 10 dny +9

    This was a fantastic video. Jimmy’s time in the group remains one of the lesser explored-yet most interesting-stories related to the group. His reclusiveness shrouds this story in mystery. Thanks for such an incredible dive into this. Keep up the great storytelling like this!

  • @roybeckerman9253
    @roybeckerman9253 Před 6 dny +7

    This video is longer than the time Jimmie Nicol spent with The Beatles..😊

  • @Billthemusicman
    @Billthemusicman Před 11 dny +13

    Andrew this is completely fascinating, and at the same time heart breaking for Jimmy. Thank you for exploring the events surrounding his journey with the Beatles, and filling out the complete story.

  • @pauldavies6037
    @pauldavies6037 Před 9 dny +9

    The fascination with anything to do with the Beatles goes on for ever another great episode

  • @MrDarwincat
    @MrDarwincat Před 11 dny +22

    Brilliant as usual, it was nice to see some footage of Jimmy Nicol as it was quite brief in Anthology, I cannot imagine the psychological impact that would have had on any human, to be part of that inner circle and then it's all gone. It was great to learn some more facts about his brief stint. Your videos are so appreciated, always so informative.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +1

      Thanks! Glad you enjoy them!

  • @johnrogers9481
    @johnrogers9481 Před 10 dny +6

    Hey Andrew & co, what a great job here telling the story of drummer Jimmy Nicol and his brief time playing with The Beatles! Jimmy, like millions of drummers had his time playing drums and had a short time making money playing drums. Jimmy is a lucky guy who is in the history books for filling-in for Ringo Starr for two weeks with The Beatles. Otherwise, he joins the multi-millions of mostly men who play drums and who also work a job to make money to pay for a life on planet earth!! Where are you now Jimmy Nicol??

  • @ilabelle1
    @ilabelle1 Před 11 dny +15

    Fantastic! This is the first time I’ve ever seen an in depth look at Jimmy Nicol. Bit of a bummer of an ending but still, it’s quite a story. Thanks for getting this together for us Andrew.

  • @kengruz669
    @kengruz669 Před 8 dny +5

    Excellent presentation of a chapter of the Beatles I knew nothing about. And very well-produced, to boot.

  • @decentlyandinorder
    @decentlyandinorder Před 6 dny +23

    Jimmy Nicol was never considered a 5th Beatle, he was always merely the 'stand-in" for Ringo....period.

    • @carlyellison8498
      @carlyellison8498 Před 4 dny

      ​@@PaulMartin-s3o- does too, full stop! 😅

    • @mrbee145
      @mrbee145 Před 4 dny +1

      I think space aliens 👽 are involved 😂

    • @MultiMikey81
      @MultiMikey81 Před 21 hodinou

      @@mrbee145 and pyramids with eyes on top

  • @bwpm1467
    @bwpm1467 Před 9 dny +8

    Andrew, your videos are astonishing. This is a real favourite for me. Well done, and thank you. I've no idea how the BBC has never employed you as a radio or television host. Their loss!

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 9 dny +1

      Thank you, much appreciated. I'm glad you enjoy them.

  • @marktubeie07
    @marktubeie07 Před 11 dny +33

    Trivia: The music journalist at 15:38 was Australia's _Bob Rodgers_ , who had exclusive interview rights during their tour of Australia. We lost Bob in May of this year, 2024. A legend here...
    A respectful tribute to Frank at the end - his fans will appreciate that ❤️

    • @goodiesguy
      @goodiesguy Před 10 dny +4

      R.I.P. Bob Rogers, I didn't know he had passed. He was vital in airing local Australian, and also Kiwi talent on Australian radio.

    • @marktubeie07
      @marktubeie07 Před 10 dny +4

      @@goodiesguy He certainly was, more than Aussies realize !

  • @48musicfan
    @48musicfan Před 11 dny +12

    Thank you for spotlighting Jimmy. I am sure it must have been very hard and a letdown going from the highest of highs to back to reality. - Roger

  • @allisons3663
    @allisons3663 Před 8 dny +4

    That truly is a fascinating and interesting story. The fact that no one knows where he is makes it even more intriguing.

  • @nellsun2521
    @nellsun2521 Před 11 dny +17

    It's a shame he couldn't carry on doing his session work -- studio players were paid very good money.

    • @davidtoups4684
      @davidtoups4684 Před 10 dny +3

      I think after getting a taste of the limelight, it would have been impossible for him to go back to session work

    • @nellsun2521
      @nellsun2521 Před 10 dny +6

      @@davidtoups4684 I guess. But it's better than being bankrupt by '66!

  • @blueriverlore
    @blueriverlore Před 11 dny +14

    Thank you for this remembrance, Andrew. I remember my cousins talking about Jimmy back in '64 (as well as Pete Best) and I thought to myself 'wow! a chance to play with 'The Beatles'. It's a shame he couldn't turn that into a better success.

  • @20thcenturyarchivist52
    @20thcenturyarchivist52 Před 9 dny +2

    Just when you think you know everything about The Beatles, Andrew and Parlogram prove there is still much to learn about the Fab Four. And Aunt Mimi's presence on The Beatles' BOAC flight on June 7, 1964, is proof that danger and darkness followed John Lennon wherever he traveled.

  • @pascaldeslongchampsmoncton1490

    I think the first title that say " the Beatles ruined his career" is far fetch, the Beatles actually gave him a great opportunity, but it just didn't happen for him unfortunately. He was a replacement player for 10 days and that's it.

  • @lennon1252
    @lennon1252 Před 5 dny +3

    Some Jimmy Nicol trivia info:
    At a press conference a reporter mischievously asked John Lennon why Pete Best, who had been the Beatles' previous drummer for two years but dismissed by the group on the eve of stardom, was not rehired, to which Lennon replied: "He's got his own group [Pete Best & the All Stars], and it might have looked as if we were taking him back, which is not good for him."
    Jimmy once said, "Standing in for Ringo was the worst thing that ever happened to me. Until then I was quite happy earning £30 or £40 a week." Upon leaving the group after Ringo returned,
    Brian Epstein presented Jimmy with a cheque for £500 (equivalent to $12,798 in 2023) and a gold Eterna-matic wrist watch inscribed: "From the Beatles and Brian Epstein to Jimmy - with appreciation and gratitude."
    After seeing news of Nicol's bankruptcy in the Daily Mirror, Paul McCartney recommended him to Peter and Gordon who hired him for a 1965 England tour.
    The last confirmed sighting of Nicol was outside his rented first-floor flat in Kentish Town, north London, in the early 2010s.

  • @moreheff
    @moreheff Před 10 dny +2

    Being a muso myself, I can imagine all the emotions that Jimmy went through during his stint. The incredible high of the gigs and public experience, to the low of how he was treated by Brian at the end of the stint (Brian being his usual over protective self of "his boys") and not even letting him say his goodbyes to the guys, and then what happened to his career afterwards . It is easy to see why he would have blamed Brian. I really feel for him

  • @quiastje6316
    @quiastje6316 Před 11 dny +24

    One more fantastic story, I appreciate your dedication to this channel Andrew! It has now been one of the highlights of my weekends for over 2 years.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +3

      Thank you! Glad you enjoy it!

  • @thefonzkiss
    @thefonzkiss Před 9 dny +8

    Surprised you didn’t mention the story of George sending Jimmie a drink in a club several years later and Jimmie rejecting it. He was so paranoid about Epstein and the Beatles supposedly derailing his solo career, it’s sad. It’s in the book mentioned, for those who want to read it.

  • @pauldaviesantiques1556
    @pauldaviesantiques1556 Před 11 dny +13

    Love the detail, Andrew. Please keep 'em coming!

  • @LapsangTe
    @LapsangTe Před 9 dny +9

    Another aspect of the whole story is that Ringo has said that he himself took it very hard. He wasn't sure that they would welcome him back efter he got well again. He feared being replaced permanently, like they had replaced Pete Best.

  • @gorgen23
    @gorgen23 Před 8 dny +2

    Jimmy Nicol and Pete Best doing a 60 minutes interview would be an interesting watch. Certainly cure any financial issues they may have.

  • @joe44850
    @joe44850 Před 5 dny +3

    There's a humorous moment in "That Thing You Do" when Scott "Wolfman" Pell replaced T.B. Player on bass. Always kinda reminded me of Jimmy Nichols.

  • @SpikeAsks
    @SpikeAsks Před 9 dny +6

    Long Live Jimmy Nicol... Another Fab Show! 🕊🤍🥁

  • @ronvonryan
    @ronvonryan Před 5 dny +3

    After Jimmie finished his spell with The Beatles he joined the Band I fronted The Dave Davani Five for a while. He fitted in well, I found him a very quite man and a very good drummer.

    • @MarkMikelVideos
      @MarkMikelVideos Před 2 dny +1

      Fascinating. Why did he leave your group?

    • @ronvonryan
      @ronvonryan Před 2 dny +1

      @@MarkMikelVideos Back then most Groups were in constant flux with members leaving and joining other Groups for many reasons. We were playing mainly London Clubs like The Scotch of St James, The Flamingo, and the 100 Club and other Clubs like that and I think Jimmie had a taste of the big time and thought he could do better.

    • @MarkMikelVideos
      @MarkMikelVideos Před dnem +1

      @ronvonryan Very cool. I'd imagine he was still pretty well known at that time and probably helped draw people in, yes?
      Btw, I've played the 100 Club once back in 2018 with Corky Laing's Mountain when we toured England. Probably the worst smelling club I've ever played, but I reveled in its rich rock history and had a great time.

    • @ronvonryan
      @ronvonryan Před dnem

      @@MarkMikelVideos When he joined the Band I was fronting he wanted no fuss, he just wanted to be one of the band, so I respected his wishes and never to the audience who our drummer was and what he had done and I don't remember once anyone recognizing him. I also had a Band 'The Riot Squad' and the drummer later went on to be quite famous, Mitch Michelle.

  • @bucksdiaryfan
    @bucksdiaryfan Před 9 dny +2

    Jimmie is like the Walter Beall of music. Beall wsa a career minor league pitcher who pitched one inning for the most famous team of all time, the 1927 New York Yankees. He faced four batters, gave up a hit and a run, and was never heard from again. But at least he and Jimmie got the opportunity to brush up against, and even be a part of, true greatness. Instead of lamenting what might have been, he needs to change his mindset to "what was" and the special oppurtunity he had.

  • @RonaldBrown59
    @RonaldBrown59 Před 9 dny +3

    I've known about Jimmie Nicol taking Ringo's place while he was sick. But thanks for providing some much detail to the story, and what happened to him afterward. This might have been your best production yet, I loved it! Thanks for sharing.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 9 dny +2

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ric8248
    @ric8248 Před 8 dny +3

    He knew it was temporary, he shouldn't look back in anger.

  • @mitreswell
    @mitreswell Před 7 dny +3

    I doubt he could have contributed as creatively as Ringo did to the Beatles' songs.

    • @user-dk3up2nl1m
      @user-dk3up2nl1m Před dnem

      I just said the same thing! Ringo had a history with the others...getn drunk and high does help get creative

  • @gregrappa1797
    @gregrappa1797 Před 11 dny +29

    Jimmy was actually the inspiration for the Tom Hanks movie, “That Thing You Do”. Thank you Andrew for another phenomenal video.

  • @clurkroberts2650
    @clurkroberts2650 Před 10 dny +8

    Interesting how they always dressed him differently in a white overcoat from the rest of the Beatles. His squared jaw features also did not match the Beatles look.

  • @adrianrobey7716
    @adrianrobey7716 Před 9 dny +3

    He should have definitely written a book. What a cool and unique perspective he had. Lots of people can imitate not many can create. He could have achieved his own success just on book tours alone.

  • @tomtoss2463
    @tomtoss2463 Před 5 dny +2

    I never knew about Jimmy until now.

  • @tomg6318
    @tomg6318 Před 3 dny +1

    I'm wondering how Ringo felt the whole time. Bad enough being in the hospital, but then thinking there's somebody taking my place

  • @mapo69
    @mapo69 Před 11 dny +7

    What a fascinating yet sad story ! This is probably the most detailed video I saw about Jimmie Nicol ! Great job Andrew ! Cheers from Montreal Canada !

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +1

      Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @Peter-Burbank
      @Peter-Burbank Před 10 dny +1

      @@Parlogram.. maybe we could get something like this regarding their visit to the Philippines?

  • @Jaseph2
    @Jaseph2 Před 4 dny +3

    I think it’s partially a sad story simply because someone would think if was good enough for the Beatles, he must be pretty good. I doubt that he ever had any expectations that he would replace Ringo. It sounds like the band treated him well and that watch is such a nice touch.
    But it sounds like he came to grips with everything and for whatever reason just wanted to be left alone.
    Pete Best to me is a sadder story. Imagine watching the Beatles become the phenomenon they did, shortly after you being replaced. But he too seems to have made peace with what happened.
    In the end, Ringo was essential to the Beatles and helped them to become who they became. He was the last piece of the puzzle.

  • @bluedeskfan2754
    @bluedeskfan2754 Před 3 dny +2

    Fascinating. Must be bitter sweet. Surprised he didn't cash in on it more with a book etc. But can understand why you'd want to move on after a while.

  • @retroseventy
    @retroseventy Před 10 dny +2

    The experience that Jimmy Nichol must have had is like a saying of an old friend of mine used to say: 'I THOUGHT I HAD DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN'. I had known about him filling in for Ringo but never knew all the details of it. THANK YOU for the very nice expose of that time!!!

  • @dannystrat
    @dannystrat Před 9 dny +3

    As you stated, Nicol wasn't lacking in self-confidence! Even though it's hard to understand where his suspicion of Epstein came from; his self-inflated (and rather big-headed) certainty of replacing Ringo; and thinking he was going to America right after, one can't help but feel sorry for the guy. Being thrown into a world phenomenon for 10 days, then suddenly sent home must have been incredibly disorienting. Like a soldier, he should have been debriefed and relaxed for a day or so before going home!
    Great video! Proud to be a member!

  • @riccardociofi3162
    @riccardociofi3162 Před 11 dny +5

    It’s always a pleasure to spend part of a Sunday afternoon watching one of the videos by Andrew on The Beatles (and more). Personally, I didn’t know a thing about Nicol, and I found this video interesting.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +2

      Thanks Riccardo. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @andydporter5136
    @andydporter5136 Před 5 dny +2

    My mum was a young schoolteacher who, along with her entire high school, lined the main road from Adelaide Airport to the CBD, Anzac Highway. Miraculously, as the Beatles cavalcade was passing them, it stopped and out jumped the lads keen to chat with the students. It was an all-girls high school in distinctive brilliant blue uniform, so little wonder they caught the boy's eyes. Anyway, Paul said "Hello, Mrs School Teacher", to my mum. That’s all she remembers, and that their hair was exceedingly shiny. Btw, she'd never heard of The Beatles until a few hours earlier when her principal announced plans for the school to line Anzac Highway.

  • @michaelkutulas8878
    @michaelkutulas8878 Před 4 dny +1

    This video was incredibly well done... excellent narration and beautifully assembled clips and pics! Thank you!

  • @erikmolnar6585
    @erikmolnar6585 Před 10 dny +3

    What an amazing and sad story. Out of everything I've heard about Jimmy, this is the most I've ever heard about his stint in the Beatles. The pictures you used are great. Would love to see you make a video on their time in Germany when they were starting out

  • @magneto7930
    @magneto7930 Před 10 dny +3

    It is a rather sad story when you think about it. It's almost as if Jimmy woke from a dream and he was back home again. You would think by listing "Drummer for The Beatles" on his resume that he couldn't lose. He should have kept trying. He should have at least written an autobiography. At least he would get something out of the deal. That lucky break only comes once in a lifetime.

  • @jamesmanon3000
    @jamesmanon3000 Před 9 dny

    The best Beatles collection zi've seen so far.Thank you.

  • @francoisvanderlinden3756
    @francoisvanderlinden3756 Před 10 dny +1

    Fascinating as always ! Thanks !

  • @sebastianmaharg
    @sebastianmaharg Před 10 dny +5

    Just to be clear, you say Paul asked Jimmie's son, Howie, "if he could see him again" to which he replied a stark "no." This is misleading because you make it sound as if Howie was somehow refusing or blocking Paul from seeing Jimmie. It's more a matter of Paul asking Howie if he knew of any way to contact Jimmie, to which Howie said "no", as he simply didn't know where his father was.

    • @Jkaninteangemittnamn
      @Jkaninteangemittnamn Před 4 dny

      I guess Paul with his billions would easy find Jimmie if he wanted too .

  • @michaelrochester48
    @michaelrochester48 Před 11 dny +8

    Nicol and Pete Best should do comic cons and make a MINT…that is untapped potential for income

  • @thechuckster6838
    @thechuckster6838 Před 11 dny

    Loved this. Very informative!

  • @ericsolomon7149
    @ericsolomon7149 Před 4 dny +1

    Very well done! Thorough and informative

  • @anthonyvigliotti6560
    @anthonyvigliotti6560 Před 11 dny +5

    Excellent subject and excellent job on your part, Andrew! Jimmy Nicol's story always fascinated me. I cannot imagine that super-high of being a temporary Beatle and then trying to get on with a career after that. I have Jim Berkenstadt's book - superb. I have never believed that Brian "blackballed" Jimmy around the industry. While he was a fine drummer, he never came up with the goods musically (as you point out). To me, there are some similarities with Pete Best's story. Thanks for a FABulous video and also the nice production with this. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏* (*See? More than 'one hand clapping'!😊)

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 11 dny +2

      Thanks Anthony. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @gibbo573
    @gibbo573 Před 4 dny +4

    He knew what he was getting into.

    • @Parlogram
      @Parlogram  Před 4 dny +1

      Bur nothing could prepare him for the actual experience.

    • @gibbo573
      @gibbo573 Před 4 dny

      @@Parlogram That’s very true.

    • @gibbo573
      @gibbo573 Před 3 dny

      I think Pete Best had a bigger grievance than Jimmy Nicol. I agree he couldn't be fully prepared for the enormity of the job, but he must have had an idea. Fair play he didn't cash in, perhaps he should have.

  • @user-so9gw2po7n
    @user-so9gw2po7n Před 8 dny +2

    Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you. He was given an amazing opportunity in life. Sorry it didn't work out for him, but that's not any of the Beatles' fault.

  • @SimonJohnNoble
    @SimonJohnNoble Před 9 dny +1

    Brilliant account Andrew. Thanks!

  • @richarddelgado2723
    @richarddelgado2723 Před 5 dny +3

    And just think? Genius Howard Stern kept putting down George Martin for going bragging about how he was the great producer that helped make the Beatles become big stars To which I said “What’s wrong with that?!!!! He was there and without him who knows how the lads would’ve ended up?”…..

    • @TheReubenKincaid
      @TheReubenKincaid Před 4 dny

      Martin was essential to The Beatles. Beatles brought the raw talent and Martin was able to help execute it. He seems to have never turned an idea down and looked for ways to make it real. Think of it , if Decca didn’t turn them away would they have become The Beatles as legends? What if Pete Best stayed? Whatever it was Devine intervention or the universe everything fell into place. Ringo was the only drummer for the Beatles, and Martin helped keep them moving forward. So I guess that puts me back to your question.. how would they have ended up? I don’t think anything close to what we’ve been blessed with.

  • @jimmynicollikesapickle1124

    The best 2 weeks of my life

  • @charlesgilbert1952
    @charlesgilbert1952 Před 4 dny

    Best video yet. Keep them coming.

  • @RogerKknulll
    @RogerKknulll Před 8 dny +2

    Never knew this.

  • @bucksdiaryfan
    @bucksdiaryfan Před 9 dny +5

    Those of you who are lamenting Jimi's "bad fortune" are fucking nuts! There was one golden ticket for the drummer position and it was given to Ringo Starr and he became part of the Beatles "brand". It would have been disastrous for the Beatles -- and FOR JIMI -- if they would have replaced Ringo because of a temporary illness with some random drummer from England. Instead of lamenting his bad fortune we and he should be celebrating his almost 'Twilight Zone" experience being a temporary Beatle -- he's literally the only one on Earth who got to do that after Beatlemania was established! (well Billy Preston, but that was only in sessions)