I cant believe what was inside these oil filters Fram,wix xp, Mobil1
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- NO SAFE oil filters anymore, to on Nates interactive auto we show the engine oil filters that are supposed to be known for high quality. Unfortunately that is easier said as we show why opening The Mobil1 extended performance motor oil filter. Next Fram ultra synthetic oil filter. Even more unbelievable The wix xp extended performance. with today's extended drain intervals oil filtration is more important than ever. Do not use fram filters? you decide for yourself. oil filter review with royal purple, amsoil and many other brands you must know about like super tech oil filter. best oil filter or oil filter comparison you decide like purolator oil filter and synthetic oil filter. good oil filters such as k&n oil filter also tested napa oil filter plus stp oil filter. we not only find the best but worst oil filter. check bosch oil filter review.who makes the best oil filter,find worlds best oil filter.
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The bypass valve is not normally used for cold oil . The oil would have to be 80 weight for this to happen. The bypass valve is mostly used if the filter ever becomes too full or clogged to function properly. If it is clogged, they bypass the filter and send the oil directly to the engine without going through the filter.
A warning to anyone using Mobil 1 filters, I cut one open after an oil change and found the pleats were not glued on to part of the housing allowing the filter to completely bypass.
I contacted Mobil about this issue and sent photos to them.
Their only reply after asking what it was installed on was to say that since I cut open the filter it voided the warranty.
Thanks for the video. I have used Mobile 1 filters on all our vehicles (kids, mom, grandparents, and mine) for over 30 years with synthetic oil and never had a single oil related problem. The vehicles range from new to very used and trucks to compact cars. Everything has gone over 250,000 miles and I have a truck that has over 330k miles on it without any oil related trouble.
Nate, you do realize that all engines have some H2O in them. The moisture in those filters is condensation from improper storage, which could be in any brand filter.
so you’re saying to throw oil filters in a dehydrator first ? or like a low temp oven? :P
Honestly I would worry if u have fram. But wix handled it well to prevent it from getting really bad like fram dispite that
More likely a manufacturer defect
Yes, that moisture COULD be in ANY filter -- but it's most always in the FRAM filters. Other Filter Tester Men have pointed out FRAM's rusty filters. It's common knowledge.
The Chinese like to pee pee in our Coke, so they very easily could have pee peed in our filters.
I consistently change my oil & filter at 5K miles with SuperTech 0w20 & filter and never had a problem - cheap price & same results, thx for the vid
I used to use super tech when I had a Ford Taurus had eighty thousand miles on it and I deliver pizza. So I drove a lot and I would regularly check my fluids. I noticed with supertech the oil evaporate a lot quicker. Quaker is just a few bucks more and a better quality and did well on evaporation and lubrication test
The real test is the SAE test on contamination trapping. I see you prefer coil springs over leaf springs. The rust is troubling but if you don’t cut the filter open how can one know? Any filter could rust if it sets on a warehouse shelf too long. Media thickness may actually indicate flow resistance, not a good thing.
Thanks for the video! My mental note is to stay away from Fram going forward. The poor quality Fram oil filter in this video and my poor experience with a Fram engine air filter (which was so far below the quality of the OEM engine air filter) convinced me that Fram is NOT about quality and all about cost-cutting.
Every since I bought my 09 Ford flex, I've run Mobile1 and K&N filters with Royal Purple oil. Never had an engine issue ever. Yeah it's overkill, but rather that then repair bills. I use to work at Ford and have done automotive all my life. I just use what works for me, especially in the extreme cold climates, Royal Purple is a lifesaver.
Yes the wix xp is a good filter. I use it on my truck with 238k miles
Love the video, it’s the 1st on I’ve seen from your channel. Personally, I used to use FRAM Filters usually the top grade for my engines. I used to use only Castrol GTX oil, 10W-30, 10W-40 and 20W-50 depending on the application and use of the vehicle. I own 5 Ford’s vehicles 3 trucks and 2 cars, all have 302’s except one has a 460. They all use 6qts oil and same filter used to use XG8A, now I use only WIX filters which is the Wix 51515 filter. Now I only use SuperTech oils in the same viscosities.
Yes I cut open my filters every oil change to inspect for engine health, normal wear is all I see. Though, being a mechanic I maintain my vehicles better than the average key turner!!! Yes I do not have faith in people to take care of their vehicle because, I literally fix their screwups and problems due to lack of maintenance and lack of caring for their vehicles longevity. Yes most but not all people are either key turners that “turn the key and go” or abusers that don’t maintain or abuse their vehicles!
I’ve never blown an engine with either arrangement and never had mechanical issues due to lubrication or filtration issues that wasn’t already an issue regardless of oil and filter choice! I’m a HD Diesel mechanic so engine building, diag & repair is my trade so knowing which lube and filter to use is only through experience and use.
Please list a historical verified engine damage caused by any oil filter and the failure rate of manufactures filters.
I use fram ultra synthetic with Mobil 1 oil and have 238k miles on my sequoia and it still doesnt use a teaspoon of oil between changes.
I used to use fram but moved over to mobile 1 . Haven't really had a problem with any oil filter that I know of but, it's certainly interesting to see the quality control of the filters.
Hi friends ! Hi from Greece ! I use FILTRON filtres and is the same with the WIX filters , very good filters .
Awesome i would love to check them out any vs?
How small of particles are filtered out in each of these 3 filters? The Mobil 1 filter is 99+ efficient and filters particles down to 30 microns. It also can withstand pressures up to 9 times normal pressure. Compare these specifications against the Wix XP and Fram filter.
I don’t know man, I’ve used all brands of filters over the years, I’ve never really seen a “bad” filter as long as you change them regularly. That is the key! Don’t buy into extended oil drain intervals. They push oil and oil filters way to far in my opinion. Today’s engines are too costly to repair. Whatever your manufacturer recommends for an extended oil change interval, cut that mileage in half and change the oil and filter religiously. If they recommend every 10,000 miles, change it every 5,000.
Your car will thank you!
Danny J. Rumbles lol good to know I’m not the only one who lives by that same logic. Except I change every 6k oppose to the recommended 10k
No need
Also it mentioned regularly in the manual as "normal" driving condition so people who tow or live in hot or extreme conditions shouldn't run their oil to the maximum and rather change oil sooner I personally see a big difference in the color of oil hauling my 5th wheel camper around in summer opposed to driving from work and back empty
I agree with the oil but most people dont realize they fall within extreme driving conditions. Most of everyone. Yes i also used fram for years and thought i had not had any issues. But if the cars compression, oil pressure, oil flow rate, oil loss, and so much more isn't perfect then you can't say no issues. I did the same in the past. After what i saw today im so shocked and this was before i even cut open a oil filter. Soon enough i will share but you decide what's best for you. I sell nothing so i only want to help.
Danny J. Rumbles everyone is always so worried about what the inside of a filter looks like. It can look like the best design ever but if it doesn’t catch small particles it’s a worthless piece of junk. Focus on actual lab particulate testing and not what looks pretty.
I've used fram synthetic on my 1999 corolla it has 300 000 miles
You can put just about any crappy part in a 90s era Toyota and will run forever. Never get rid of that car.
@@Jimmy-ph8xn as a guy who drives a 96 corolla with 193k miles, gotta love the sound of those engine smoother than some newer car
Yes i also used fram for years and thought i had not had any issues. But if the cars compression, oil pressure, oil flow rate, oil loss, and so much more isn't perfect then you can't say no issues. I did the same in the past. After what i saw today im so shocked and this was before i even cut open a oil filter. Soon enough i will share but you decide what's best for you. I sell nothing so i only want to help.
Thats why I use KnN gold filters.
@@cindysue5474 I’ve been using for 10 years K&N GoldFilter but going too try Royal Purple next oil change 1998 F150 150K odometer . I use B12 & MMO great injection cleaners over 10 yrs. 🤙
Good vid, I'm glad the fram ultras I run are the cartridge type vs canister so no rust getting into the system.
I checked out a mobil 1 recently and only filters down to 30 micron , fram down to 20, not sure about the wix but the amount of filter media in the wix isnt very impressive. Purolator Boss is another option I'd use also.
I wouldn't use the Boss in a Toyota because Toyota emphasizes flow rates and the Boss filter does restrict flow.
Been using Wix and Napa gold for the last ten years in the same Jeep with synthetic oil and had no issues.
Yes wix makes quality oil filters.
The fram was a mess, and the rust might be a problem on the WIX. But just because you think something looks cheap doesn't mean it wasn't designed by an engineer to work and last exactly how it was supposed to. Not saying this is true, but the fancy WIX poppet valve could be much worse for the engine if the heavy spring is too much. I appreciate the look at the internals, but calling them unsafe just based on how they look to you instead of doing a performance test is click-bait garbage.
Its ok you support fram. But the spring is specifically designed for a certain spec depending on the vehicle. They all use different materials however that is fine but when you have glue on the inside and outside of filter media thats broken free its able to damage a engine. I could go on but i see you are biased.
That tool is not a micrometer. It’s a caliper
Yes i always say that i dont know why but im no better with names.
yes and it in mm! that som bitch - do he no this is mercia!
Switched to Mobil 1 oil and filters a couple years ago
Hello, sorry for my not so good english capabilities. Thank you very much for this effort to compare the filters, mostly on their building characteristics, but the essential is missing, and actually very difficult to compare: filtration capabilities and stability under mileage.i don't Care so much about a bit of rust inside (storage duration ?) Or box thickness but much more about media quality, capacity per cm2 and stability during opération ( behaviour vs water, temp, long storage etc...), Value and consistency in Time of valves sealings and opening pressures etc... For instance the white Wix media is very different to the deep Brown one. One is mainly cellulosic, the other mainly synthetic .this leads to very different filtering capacities per surface unit, making the lenght comparaison unrelevant . Perhaps other readers Can help on this ?
Pascal-- your comment is the best one on here so far. Filtering ability, oil flow, and filter capacity are much more important than (a) poor storage issues; or (b) anecdotal information concerning one's personal experience (i.e., "I used Wix for many years" is a meaningless comment).
@@Jimmy-sj9ny thanks Jimmy. We Can all apreciate the effort of a good faith guy trying to characterize different filters in his garage, but we have to understand that those components are sometimes much more complicated than they appear to be and very tiny details in the design or manufacturing can make huge differences in lifetime stability. We all would like to have simple answers, but with modern engines, we better use good brands : with highly sophisticated engines, bio-fuels, very New synthetic oil grades (0w20 for diesel !), yes there are differences between products that matters. As former chief engineer in diesel , I would only recommend to avoid to save few dollars and go for good products ( well known brands will not take the risk to deliver low quality products and destroy their image and take liabilities for engine destruction).
Mobile 1 always
I've been using the Fram orange filters on my 92 Toyota pickup for 20 years and have had no problems. However, I have occasionally noticed rust in the inside bottom of some of the filters. I've heard that Supertech filters are pretty good, though. What's say you?
Only oil filter that I hated was Fram. I'm using WIX XP now. I've been using K&N. STP also makes a decent oil filter, or used to, it's been several years now.
I am using wix xp. I've used mobile 1 and amsoil oil filters and although I do like the amsoil it's hard to find. Never have used royal purple filter. The wix xp has better pressure at least according to the oil pressure gauge.
I've always just used wix but I'm starting to second guess that decision
Same here
Never knew why the internet hype Wix so much. I disregarded it just from simple research on the web.
What do you prefer?
Oem or Mobil1
As Mobil 1 build is similar to Amsoil...and Royal Purple
I use Wix on all my fleet vehicles and my personal car hands down it’s one of the best filters on the market in my opinion.
No, Royal purple, amsoil, puralator boss is better than wix xp
@@savagepebbles1694
Those filters are good but my buddy races UMP Late Models and he trusts Wix race line on his $60k race engines so that’s good enough for me.
@@jimmymccoy967 hopefully using Red Line or Amsoil or Liquid Molly
I started using Mobil 1 oil and filters, the seem to clean better and improve engine running performance.
I hav a87 mustang, I stoped using fram, now i only use motorcraft filter.👍
Motocraft is a wix filter
@donjohnson7729 no it's not 😅
Back in the day when I worked at the case dealership we used fleetguard. Supposed to be a top notch filter nowadays I don't know what to trust maybe it still is top.
I have used Fram and mobile 1 never had issue with any filter
It appears that you had the rubber coating of the Fram cannister in the caliper when you made the thickness measurement.
Also, there was no test of the porosity or particle filtering properties of the filter media. Length is not so important if the media doesn't filter particles effectively. No test on pressure level to open the valve.
What about OEM like ford dodge and Chevy
FYI. Those are called digital Calipers not micrometers. Great review. Love to see how a GM filter stands up to this test
You realize that a digital caliper is a different shape and he is correct not you. All and all they will do the same thing. Just saying FYI
You do realize that a digital caliper is a different shape and he is correct. All and all they will do the same thing. Just saying
anyone with an i.q. over zero knows that rust inside the mounting plate, especially that amount, ain't going to hurt anything, it's not thick and scaly, PLUS it's a filter, any rust that might slough off will get caught in the filter media, in my almost 50 years of driving, i haven't had one single negative event with any fram product, and to all of you smart asses , my driving experience includes 2 years in the army corps of engineers and ten years driving truck over the road,besides driving all over the country in various vehicles and weather, but the black glue, i agree , i wouldn't want that in my engine
I disagree concerning the rust. I do agree that this amount of rust will not cause a failure of the part it does however in my opinion show a lack of either QC or a quality construction process. I dont want rust in my engine going thru the bearings and other intricate parts. In my opinion the rust is worse than the glue although I do not want the glue in thee either.
@@lenny351 the rust tells me that it's been sitting around for awhile, they don't come in sealed boxes or plastic wrap, i don't want rust in my engine either, but that isn't a lot of rust, the black glue though, come on fram, and i like fram stuff, i've never had that in any of mine
Put a FRAM filter in a cat engine lol
This guy don't even know how to use calipers
@@lenny351
Are we sure it's iron oxide. Was it confirmed?
Always have ran model 1 fitler for years and many different vehicles and never have had a problem with them
Take a K&N filter apart. I also didn't notice you removing the seal on the Fram. Every Fram that I've bought like the one you tested had a siliphane wrapper covering the opening. I'm pretty sure that's why yours is rusted. Once it's removed and has oil in it it will never rust. Bottom line is you get what you pay for.
The Wix gasket comes off with little effort. The last 3 oil changes on my Cummins had the Wix gasket stay on the engine. I like the Wix but hate the gasket. I've used my last Wix on my Cummins. You will double gasket the Wix if you don't pay attention. And yes, I preoil the gasket before install.
The Fram filter for my vehicle never rusts.
These types of examinations don't prove anything. You can't judge the quality of the filter media by looks or thickness alone. They need to be tested and compared in a laboratory setting to determine which is more effective at doing its job.
In general if the filter does the job properly its fine. Yes i also used fram for years and thought i had not had any issues. But if the cars compression, oil pressure, oil flow rate, oil loss, and so much more isn't perfect then you can't say no issues. I did the same in the past. After what i saw today im so shocked and this was before i even cut open a oil filter. Soon enough i will share but you decide what's best for you. I sell nothing so i only want to help.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO
So did ever see the compression or any of those other things you mentioned negatively affected and can you be certain it was due to Fram filters?
Wix is wide thick, and made of best material and micron rating out of the 3. the length of the others dont really matter cause they all are long enough to do the job and fill the circumference inside the shell. I use Wix, Oil, Cabin,Air, with Pensoil, best I can find in my Area.
it dont matter what one you use just long as its not a fram your doing a good job
It is not the cold temperatures that is a problem with oil filters. Modern cars use and recommend lightweight oils, like 0W-20 or 5W-20 weight oils, for use in their cars. These lightweight oils have no problem flowing through an oil filter, even at below freezing temperatures, especially if they are synthetic.
I've seen good filters come and seen them go . Today Wix brand comes closest keeping coil springs in relief valves but for awhile during the ninety's some suppliers offered quality but have fallen to the almighty dollar . It's good that Jon Myers has a job , to bad the penny pinching management can only satisfy stockholders . Thanks Nate
I think the Mobile 1 and K&N are good. Changing your oil every 3k with good synthetic oil really counts. Maintenance is cheaper than repairs!
3k is a little soon for me. 5k is when I change mine no matter what the oil percentage says on my truck
@@robertortega8524 Exactly, i used Castrol Synthetic Magnatec in my 18 Accord and no matter what the oil percentage says on the panel 5k is the proper time to change it as long you drive your vehicle with normal habits you should be fine. But that dude is just throwing away his money on unnecessary oil changes.
Most manufacturers recommend 7500 milev intervals with synthetic. They have to provide warranties to back this up. 3k changes will guarantee fresh oil always but it may be wasteful.
I'm planning to buy a Toyota truck that uses the cartridge style filter. What brand do you recommend for that I see Wix isn't widely available for that engine. Just use the genuine Toyota filter that's easy to get on Amazon???
I use several brands. Ford filters are good. Use WIX too. Supertech is decent for the money.
I only use Fram ultra and I don't have any issues for all of my vehicles. These filters are over-engineered anyway so little here and there will make no difference whatsoever.
It would seem that the metal components are all electroplated steel. Something like zinc galvanising most likely. Since the Fram is rusting, I'm guessing they either aren't treating the metal components long enough or the plating mineral concentration in their solution is depleted. Basically cheap coating and not enough quality control.
Personally I do like Wix filters best. K&N are good for the money too if you buy online. Especially their Performance Silver line.
One interesting thing I learned recently is that many of the synthetic long life oil filters actually filter worse than their non synthetic counterparts. They just don't filter particles as small as the non synthetic filters. That way they don't clog as quickly, and you can run them for the longer intervals without losing flow. Not exactly what you want from a more expensive filter! Better off using normal filters and shorter change intervals.
Very informative i agree wix is great also I believe the oil change intervals itself is not as it should be for real longevity. The long drain intervals are not good for vvt plus i contacted several engine oil companies and checked dates on the time when oil interval mileage increased. Asking about changes to the oil & car manufacturers both more less gave the same answer. There were improvements but nothing major. I do have a more detailed answer but car's need good clean oil more than ever and between the environment and sales of cars this is really what made a big increase in oil change intervals. My brother changes oil once every couple of years. Eventually his jeep uses more oil. Then his differential goes out right after telling me that doesn't need changed almost never. I personally change mine typically 3000 and some im using to test on different intervals to try and test in lab. However im hardcore when its comes to the oil change. Containments are one of the biggest problems.
Yep all very interesting! The biggest reason for oil change intervals being shortened was auto manufacturers saw the prevalence of synthetic oil as a way to lower "cost of ownership" and use less maintenance as a new sales tactic. Plus the oil brands themselves had a marketing battle with it at our expense. I also hate how common XW-20 or even XW-12 oil has become. The only reason for these much thinner second number oils is fuel economy, not engine protection! You won't see me running anything less than an XW-30!
to be fair about it you should zero your measuring callipers after each and every use, just sayin.
That's why you measure them more than once but it's ok you didn't know.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I use them all the time, you just covering up your ignorance with arrogance.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO your not even doing that though are you ?, if you demonstrating doing something do it thurough and proper that way you make yourself look more credible.
@@jezztech Im not sure where to start obviously you are trying to hate as you have shown with this statement. But to really try and explain some many times i have conducted test with every scale or meter even many types of torque wrenches all the while using two for the same measurement so to be certain. Calibration of many has been performed in each video until people complained saying it wasn't neccessary it takes too much time. There is a ton of things i can show. But the video would last forever and be boring. You must be a fram user and down about your life to be so hateful and arrogant. It was you that wants to act like you know everything while others do not know anything while you make them out to be liars on top of your arrogance. I will not reply to another hate comment.
@@jezztech my measurements are correct but even if it was off it would be on all of them the same. I would like your help but please dont hate and be happy. If i do something their may be a reason please dont assume. Thanks for your time.
Another great video Fran filters have been going downhill for years back in the 70s and 80s they were a decent company then but now they’re just all about the quantity not quality
The glue is there to hold the stuff together where as the other filters rely on hopes and dreams I buy fram ultra synthetic filters and run conventional oil and change every 5000km with no issues and oil is still fairly clean
Yes i also used fram for years and thought i had not had any issues. But if the cars compression, oil pressure, oil flow rate, oil loss, and so much more isn't perfect then you can't say no issues. I did the same in the past. After what i saw today im so shocked and this was before i even cut open a oil filter. Soon enough i will share but you decide what's best for you. I sell nothing so i only want to help.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO
I'm going to try that Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. For me it seems like a high quality filter.
My vehicle uses a cartridge filter, so all I replace is the element.
There is absolutely NO REASON to run conventional oils in today's engines -- it offers NO ADVANTAGE, except for cost -- but that's not a real advantage when engine protection and cost-per-mile are considered.
On filters I like motorcraft for fords, a.c. delco for g.m. and chrysler I like wix or purelator. But best filter I saw was factory toyota when they had media based filter. From a engine builder side, fram is still orange can of doom. With oem if there is failure with spec oil and filter they got a fight on their hands. The balance has always been flow versuses filtration. But biggest fight is the manufacturers claiming go further over and over... most vehicles are good at 5k. Some like diesels or german stuff, have a much larger oil capacity meaning less wear on it. On new smaller turbo engines oil is truly the life changer. When you shut off the engine the oil cooks in the turbo...
Wix xp filters use a synthetic media not cellulose.
I’ve been using the Wix 57502XP on a Ford 3.5 Dura-Tec V6 for years with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W20 for year’s.
I've never had a bad experience with a wix xp on my 2015 Hyundai Sonata SE 2.4l. Now I'm thinking of switching to Mobil1.
May be a good test.....but, your caliper readings should be taken with the machined tips only.
I always liked Fram. Mostly used Fram oil and air filters. A few years ago saw that Fram had thinner fabric in their cartridge oil filters than even Walmarts Supertech. Then after a while saw the Supertech cartridge oil filter was less quality and thinner than the Fram. I don't understand it. Lately been using Supertech oil cartridge filters when oil change my car and seem okay. It's on the GM 2.2 Liter 4 cyl Ecotec engine.
Mobil 1 full synthetic and oil filter for 2014 Cadillac CTS with 40,000 miles
I use the Fram ExtraGuard with my synthetic oil changes. There isnt much difference in quality between the low end and high end Fram. Even with synthetic, I change my oil every 3k miles. If I went 6k miles then Id look at maybe a K&N filter
My 454bbc and 350sbc engines in my 85 C30 and 86 K2500 respectively only run oem filters. Same with my dad's 95 F350 Powerstroke.
For $10 you can get a Motorcraft FL1995, made by Baldwin at Wal-Mart. AC Delco’s are ok, but there are better quality filters for only a few bucks more.
I always run the taller filters when clearance is not a concern. In my Vette I get the AC Delco UPF64R, Just add the UPF__R to the filter # you use to get their high performance line. Bottom line is oil changes at 3-5k miles, proper warm up and cool down and those motors will last a lifetime
I love telling people about an oil change on my ‘96 7.3 Ambulance. I’m like: “ yeah, it takes 4 gallons of oil and the filter holds a quart by itself”. Make sure your dad is sucking out the 3 extra quarts on top of the engine. Check out PowerStrokeHelp here on YT for more info. That’s why guys keep needing High pressure oil pumps on those 7.3’s
That’s a caliper not a micrometer. And in America we don’t really use millimeters. And you spoke of glue on Fram but that wasn’t illustrated very well(we couldn’t see any). And how would rust form in a good engine?
Currently using Toyota TRD oil filter in my 2017 Toyota Tacoma SR5 3.5 V-6. Why not just use OEM filters from the dealer?.. you can snag deals/sales run by the parts dept. or score factory spec filters on-line/ebay.
YOu are making videos and bias towards fram. You are also clueless on the bypass valves. one works are well as the other. This has been proven time and time again.
Love the vid I am so happy that I saw this was just about to get a fram but I think I will pay more just to get the wix or Mobil one
Also do you like Pennzoil
Pennzoil oil filters are just rebadged Gram, I would avoid if possible.
Aeronomx I meant the oil
Pennzoil leaves ash in the oil pan. My father was an ASE Global Tech and mechanic for 40 years. He used Mobil 1 in his everyday vehicles, and Royal Purple in his muscle car.
Penzoil ultra platinum is mopars factory fill in all of their muscle cars and i use it in my Chrysler 300. Mopar sets high standards on their ratings and it meets all of them. It was also in the top 2 of project farms oil championship. The only oil to beat it was the Amsoil Signature series.
20 years ago I would've avoided pennzoil like the plague. In the recent years their oils have improved leaps and bounds. Pennzoil is definitely in my top 3 favorite brands. If interested Google "motor oil wear test" on wordpress. by 540rat. It's a very Long read, with a lot of good information on lubrication.
Never had problem with fram in 35 years
My concern is on the length of the filter media. Most videos I've seen on a dissected wix filter, the media is a little over 6 feet long, frams are about 3 feet. Probably depends on where they're made I guess.
BFD, the rust on the Fram is on the dirty side of the filter. And who knows how that filter was stored or where you got it.
Brian Leeper
Fram is shit. Barely a step above no filter.
Wasn't Wix the thickest but also the shortest? Sounds like a trade-off to me. Not enough difference to be concerned about. I wonder which one restricts oil flow the least? Again, likely little difference.
I like your comment.
I was wondering if the "Media" has different filtration.
How big are the microns alowed to be passing through it.
I have a shop filter for wood that traps upto 5 microns but that's really big compared to particulates in oil.
Honestly if you use good quality oil and change your oil on time any of those filters will work just fine
Your not the only one that rated Frame filters Bad and from personal experience I will never put a fram on my cars again.
I still get wix XP and cheaper then farm ultra they filter out 20 microns. I had issues with k&n and AC Delco and see couple customers complain that they have oil leaks and came from oil filter then replaced with OEM or wix and don't have any problems after replacing k&n or ac Delco
It would be interesting to know the micron rating for what is filtered out of the oil.
I have probably used every oil filter under the sun and have never had an issue with any of them. If you change your oil and filter like you are supposed to, I don't think there is any problem with any of them. I have had vehicles up to 250k miles and still going with no oil related issues.
I myself,,, use purolator one's-- every time,,,,,, never had a problem
Yes cut one open half hour ago an was 6ft an a few cm long wix is good, use moble 1 always I less can't find one then use wix but no one has put a boush filter cut open on any of theses videos yet
And most all K&N filter I've checked out dont filter smaller microns as there all about high flow. I think they go down to 40 or 30 the lowest.
This is true but the point of KN is for high flow rate. They use impregnated cellulose for their filters which doesn't filter out down to smaller microns than synthetic material.
@@JohnnyFTD I know that's what I said
@KGB 1974 true, but if you have enough filter media and change filters at regular intervals i doubt an issue with that. And I've seen articles were anything over 20 microns getting through ain't devastating but is not the best either. So for me I'm going with full syn that has kick ass pour points and flows excellent in freezing temps and change filter at regular intervals and using a filter with an efficiency of 20 microns or less but to each his own
The irony is that you are doing this by visual and your opinion. The only thing that really tests these filter is ASTM certified machines for filters. I agree that Fram sucks. They use a surface type filtration. Mobil and wix use what's called lofted fiber material which is the newest technology in filters. They can hold twice as much dirt and filter in the 10 - 20 micron range with 90% efficiency. Farm surface type filtration filters down to 20 - 40 microns. Holds the normal amount of dirt and needs to be changed more often. Anything below 12 microns in size is to small to do engine damage. Fram would not even come close. The filter that uses the newest and best of the newest technology and is not represented here. Is Amsoil.
Mobile 1 is the best, hands down. Oy Yo?
Ok you should a used an oil filter opener and when was this filmed? The top of the line fram filters have 2 filtering media. Were those filters fresh off the shelf?
Have you thought about testing the oem filters? Have you ever tried the royal purple filters? Maybe the different fuel filters too. Ive always had best of luck with motorcraft and mobil 1 filters
I have tested some fuel filters and oem but what exactly do you want to see next?
Thanks Nate . 👍👍👍👍
Thank you and please let me know what you want to see next?
Mobil 1 filter with pennzoil ultra platinum 0w20 change ever 4-5kmiles
Why you dont show the moment when you cut the filter body? We cant be sure that all this is the brand you are showing
Lmao i do in previous videos and if you still doubt it check other videos they are the same. Also their is nobody on CZcams that doesn't edit their videos but sometimes they do it so well you can even tell but anyone could and you wouldn't know it. Just check others and confirm or my previous videos.
do a pennzoil platinum filter review
Hey Nate, any chance that you could do a comparison between and Toyota oil filter VS a Wix XP? I have a 21 year Avalon that has been in my family since new and I have been using Wix XP filters for about three years, but recently decided to buy Toyota filters! Did I make a good decision?
I will check out some Toyota oem filters. Some of the OEM filters i have checked are surprisingly good.
Thanks for getting back to me! My experience in the past with Japanese auto makers oem filters have always worked well for me in the past!
I'm a big fan of Wix filters. However, I am using a Toyota TRD oil filter on in my 2017 Toyota Tacoma. The other aftermarket cartridge filters look like garbage. The TRD looks like it's made better.
Cool beans! They have been working out for me so far!
I use Bosch Premium oil filters
NAPA filters are the best
Napa and wix are the same filter
DUDE.... this rust issue with FRAM (which i dont use) I use mobil1. Is a storage issue, or transportation issue.I guarantee fram isnt putting filters out there that are rusted from the factory... those are all logistical issues...
Cant mess with k&n. I tried most filters and k&n is best. Most oem filters are junk, as bad as fram.
I only use Royal Purple Oil filters. They are nearly identical to AmsOil ones
They are great quality would you like to see a certain comparison?
@@sk8punk318 The filter medias are different. Rated at different Microns. But yeah other than that they are exactly the same
@@keylimeguy9248 do you recommend those? If so, which filters the best of those two? Never used any of those.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO Hey Nate. I just found out Costco sells Kirkland Brand Full Synthetic for 29 dollars for 2 five quart Jugs. Could you do some testing on it?
RP and Amsoil are made by Wix as well as Napa filters. The RP is just in a purple housing.
I use mobile 1 oil and filters never had any issues the oil is almost as clean when i change it as it was new
I like using puralator filters. I have used them all. Usually Wix or puralator for me. Mobil 1 but usually too expensive
Napa gold filters are good.
How do you always find a filter with damage or rust?
Fram filters are pressure tested with water
@@donwatson8257 you realize they probably check 1 out of 100 or more if they even do that tight of a tolerance.
Dude get some lady gloves for your lady hands ✋ 🤣, try the lawn care section that's where my wife gets them.
wix xp filters are made in china. Got one today 18 bucks no thanks got a acdelco mase in usa beter filter too. According to my oil test no more wix for me.
Where do you see made in China? Just asking because I’ve checked the box and filter closely and no mention of that. Thanks
Of all the Fram filters I have seen cut open, I have never seen glue contamination like that...