From Cotton Picker To NBA Star To Prison! BILLY RAY BATES 'Black Superman' Stunted Growth

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  • From Cotton Picker To NBA Star To Prison! BILLY RAY BATES 'Black Superman' Stunted Growth
    Billy Ray Bates was able to do extraordinary things for the era he was in, and capable of even more had he been a little more focused, consistent, and of course these 3 reasons we’ll talk about never happening. As a youth in the 60s, his days were spent picking cotton for his family’s survival and gathering lumber, which he credits to giving him his NBA ready body by his senior year in high school and his athleticism he’d later become known for, that allowed him to attack the rim like Russell Westbrook with the body makeup of Lebron James. His season stats in the NBA may not impress you, but when you look at the amount of minutes he did it in I’m sure it will. Like the 11.3ppg average as a rookie in just 14mpg. As a second year player averaging 20mpg he averaged near 14ppg. What he was known for is his playoff performances hat doubled when he was given substantial minutes, that showed he could’ve been a star in the league. Instead he had to go overseas to the Philippines and became a superstar to say the least. He was even enshrined into their Hall Of Fame. If talent only meant success was given to you, Bates would be one of the best players ever, because naturally he was that well put together for the game of basketball talent wise. But he wasn’t and here’s why. Stunted Growth.
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  • @stuntedgrowth
    @stuntedgrowth  Před 2 lety +15

    Do you remember Billy Ray Bates? What a wild story he's had. What would he have been with a little more focus?

  • @johntheprofessional5039
    @johntheprofessional5039 Před 2 lety +49

    A major stunted growth of his generation was poor academics. Lots of old school guys couldn’t even read or write, yet were accepted to universities and colleges during that era.

    • @DwayneIsKing
      @DwayneIsKing Před 2 lety +2

      True. They just saw the skills and didn't care about really anything else about the kids

  • @philipchua5433
    @philipchua5433 Před 2 lety +21

    He was big here in the Philippines.. A legend

  • @FoxNewsChannelSux
    @FoxNewsChannelSux Před 2 lety +15

    Now, this is what I'm talking bout, JC. This is why I come here. This gotta be one of the best ones you've done so-far. I never even heard of this dude and I've been watching the NBA for 35 years. Mad props, my guy

  • @DwayneIsKing
    @DwayneIsKing Před 2 lety +6

    Yooooo 11 points in 14 minutes is absolutely insane. Especially coming in as a rookie

  • @BubbaSatori
    @BubbaSatori Před rokem +2

    Used to shoot pool with Billy Ray at Gassy Jacks in Portland after Blazer practices. Nice, personable guy. Didn't act like a big shot. Good luck Billy Ray. One day at a time. Your old billiard buddy. Clean and sober 30 years. Keep the faith, brother.

  • @porcupinecraig
    @porcupinecraig Před 3 měsíci

    I lived in Oregon as a young kid during Bates' time there. I loved him. He was awesome on the floor and he seemed like such a nice lovable character. He was always smiling during interviews and commercials. I remember during his last year, the team was struggling and would miss the playoffs, but after a rare win, he did the postgame interview and he just screamed out "We are going to win some more games for all of you!"
    How can you not like a guy like that. I heard rumors that he was stupid and had problems, but I was too young to understand. It's too bad he ended up the way he did.
    Lots of players during that time were selfish one on one guys. I think he definitely would have had a great career if it wasn't for his addictions.
    Despite all of his problems, I can't help but still like the guy. I really hope he is ok now.

  • @jojo2519
    @jojo2519 Před 4 měsíci +2

    to filipino kids growing up in the 80s, he was a basketball god and a legend. he was perfection. he has inspired an entire generation!

  • @ronwhiteleo3352
    @ronwhiteleo3352 Před 2 lety +4

    Dang bro you went deep for this one

  • @Fathom916
    @Fathom916 Před 2 lety

    Great analogy

  • @roncuyos1595
    @roncuyos1595 Před 2 lety +4

    AC Green-esque? I got that reference 😆

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Před 2 lety +6

    28 rebs a game 🤯🤯🤯

  • @ronwhiteleo3352
    @ronwhiteleo3352 Před 2 lety +6

    He’d fit right in today’s nba

  • @chihollywood9379
    @chihollywood9379 Před 2 lety +12

    His addiction must've been really bad 4 him 2 b cut w/them kinda stats🤯

    • @Rarefied-Air
      @Rarefied-Air Před 3 měsíci

      I'm thinking the same thing like damn

  • @NerdyRed23
    @NerdyRed23 Před 4 měsíci

    I met this guy too really nice guy

  • @swissdude7653
    @swissdude7653 Před 7 měsíci

    Watched him in Lugano Switzerland (he was playing for Olympic Fribourg) ca. 1984-1985. About 50 in attendance in a gym the size of your average junior high school's in the US (aka: great seats). He tore it up anyway, by far the best player on the court. Unforgettable dunks, like a man among children.

  • @StopStrugglingNow
    @StopStrugglingNow Před 2 lety +11

    This man Bates was bad ass on the court. When he played but never knew if you could count on him. If he actually tried to work his game vs work on partying who knows what would of happened.

  • @MarquisdeSuave
    @MarquisdeSuave Před 2 lety +1

    The Billy Ray Bates Triple Double:
    30 points 10 dunks and a case of beer downed before warmups.

  • @freedommgtow4996
    @freedommgtow4996 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm definitely going to view more of him on CZcams now.
    I will research this cat..
    Good looking out.

  • @Dantana773
    @Dantana773 Před 2 lety +5

    You pulled Out a jewel with this one Black Superman's Story is def a Stunted Growth. He was a bad man on the Court Super athlete Just focused on the wrong thing Drinking, Women & Partying! Salute to Billy Ray Bates for becoming a legend In the Philippines.

  • @xcassper1694
    @xcassper1694 Před 2 lety +9

    Great vid Bates reminds me of a bigger & more athletic Vinnie 'Microwave' Johnson from the Pistons.

    • @locks4
      @locks4 Před rokem

      Right! Billy was the original mr " instant office"

  • @Bigboi54
    @Bigboi54 Před 2 lety

    Good story.

  • @bigripjames
    @bigripjames Před 2 lety +2

    I spent some time with him in 2020 and he is so humble and kind hearted, he has been robbed so many times in life because he passes out drunk and the ppl around him would take his stuff, i was blessed to feel his energy and hear his storys

  • @codystuder8548
    @codystuder8548 Před 11 měsíci

    Speaking of stunted throwbacks from the '70s & '80s, Al Wood's battle with and overcoming of alcoholism would be a great story to cover. He had a sweet shot, was loaded with potential, and anchored down the #2-guard spot at UNC in between Walter Davis & MJ.

  • @zeroturn7091
    @zeroturn7091 Před 2 lety +5

    Seems like the prequel to Monta Ellis before the moped injury, otherworldly talent just couldn’t conform to a playbook.

  • @jyy9624
    @jyy9624 Před 2 lety

    Billy Bates and Norman Black

  • @Anythingshort16
    @Anythingshort16 Před 5 měsíci

    the black superman

  • @stevebanks1640
    @stevebanks1640 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm 58 and started watching the NBA in 1969. I don't remember this guy, the name doesn't even ring a bell. Nice video though. Super talented

  • @amancalledhawk5575
    @amancalledhawk5575 Před 2 lety +5

    Man I can imagine him and Clyde or him running the break with magic and Cooper

  • @cass_ya_boy
    @cass_ya_boy Před 2 lety +5

    I know this guy personally! We became friends in Clementon NJ as we use to play pick up ball. Nice guy with demons he couldn't beat!

    • @michaelsimsplaya4199
      @michaelsimsplaya4199 Před 2 lety

      Same here . He would give you his shirt if he liked you . But you have to hang with him ( all night ) and drink …

  • @toddunthank3142
    @toddunthank3142 Před 2 lety

    Legend in Frankfort when I went there in the 90s.

  • @omoowobhd
    @omoowobhd Před 3 měsíci

    Since you went way back, how about a feature on Darnell Hillman, Terry Furlow or Phil Ford?

  • @piolorenzoperez5277
    @piolorenzoperez5277 Před 2 lety +2

    Yo bro im a huge fan of your channel here in the Philippines thank you for this video so much

  • @konstantinkoverchenko9587

    Wow, this is vintage and a great vid to share.

  • @michaelsimsplaya4199
    @michaelsimsplaya4199 Před 2 lety +1

    I was good friends with Billy Ray’s cousin and the three of us hung out a lot during the summers . He loved to drink that muscadine wine man . When his mom passed he never recovered from that and started doing the coke . Which ruined his nba career. We never lost a game at the park ( he took every shot ) . He once scored over 100 pts in a high school game .

  • @vittiriowashington5211

    Freddie Jones from Oregon

  • @marqellebarnes5
    @marqellebarnes5 Před rokem

    👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

  • @vincentsalvadorlatosa5077

    Too bad I was not born yet to witnessed his greatness but I've heard and seen some highlights of the legendary Black Superman.

  • @sheriffquick
    @sheriffquick Před 2 lety

    Checking in💯

  • @philliplyn2692
    @philliplyn2692 Před 2 lety

    Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

  • @user-fq4jo7tw5k
    @user-fq4jo7tw5k Před 2 lety +1

    Love to see alldat footage u have of our beloved #supersonics. Never heard of this guy. Thank you for this

  • @sabirabdul-lateef5352
    @sabirabdul-lateef5352 Před 2 lety +1

    He was naturally built!!

  • @floridagator1765
    @floridagator1765 Před 2 lety +4

    How many Filipino kids does he have? Ultimately, this is a sad story. Addiction is a living hell.

  • @danielp5317
    @danielp5317 Před 8 měsíci

    Billy Ray had a few really good games I saw vs Lakers in the playoffs he was a PROBLEM.
    Back then I was stationed in the Air Force over at Clark Air Base Angeles City Philippines. Shout out to the my cool basketball loving Pinoys. Patticos over in the P.I.
    I use to watch the PBA ( PHILLIPINES BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION)
    I WAS STATIONED OVER THERE FROM 1984 TO 1987.
    FILIPINOS LOVE BASKETBALL . I had a an apartment not to far from Mr. Kellys bar in Angeles City P.I that I rented for me and my girlfriend Valeriana
    I used to go across the MacArthur avenue to the park there and they had a couple basketball courts over there. The Filipino kids and young men would see me. And being a brother they figured I could dunk
    And yeah I could dunk pretty damn good
    I was 6-1 ht about 205 , so I through one down. Just a one hand of one leg slam, then they said do it again and it was clapping and happy and
    Then I threw down a two hand jam off the vertical. Why did I do that? Man I had to throw down my whole arsenal of dunks before I could go and I told him man I'm tired
    Reverse dunk, 360, Dr J ocean wave dunk, throw off the backboard dunk, cuff the ball dunk, gorilla dunk like Darryl Dawkins
    But before I pooped out all the way they asked me to play with them, they didn't even want to play a serious game just want to see me dunk and just let me go down the lane.
    They had a dunk fetish now this was the time you know Michael Jordan was only like a two-year NBA player and they were seeing all the games. And of course who wasn't mesmerized by Michael Jordan Dunking?
    They was real cool man, great memory of my time over there. Occasionally I'll pop through there again but most of the time I kind of went around the other way because I would have been late getting home to the meal my girlfriend prepared me. And she was good at making lumpia and chicken a double!
    A couple other guys was over there from five slamma jamma, Houston cougars I think it was Larry Micheluxl or their shooting guard I forget his name. Michael somebody I think
    Man those were the days. The German Parliament sat together if I would have been smart and thinking I would have got out the military and played in the PBA.
    I probably would a made it

  • @sheldoncooper5312
    @sheldoncooper5312 Před 2 lety

    Suggestion: Stevin Smith American former professional basketball player, who is also known for his involvement in the 1994 Arizona State point-shaving scandal.

  • @DeeTheToyHunter
    @DeeTheToyHunter Před 2 lety +4

    So basically he was Russell Westbrook before

  • @jasonmccallop6605
    @jasonmccallop6605 Před 2 lety

    Never heard of this guy before! Awesome content!!

  • @MrFuchew
    @MrFuchew Před 2 lety

    This dude was sashin twang like crazy in the philippines

  • @CoachDarren
    @CoachDarren Před rokem

    Thanks for posting this great video. I remember when I was a kid watching him play on TV with Portland and having great games and then all of a sudden he was gone out of the league. I never really thought of him again but soon as I seen this video I knew exactly who he was. I didn't know his story so this was very informative.

  • @terencewinters2154
    @terencewinters2154 Před 2 lety +2

    The athleticism of Jordan holds the blazer playoff series ppg record over drexler and Kemp. Theres a bill russell you tube pre game interview with DJ then with the sonics and best defensive guard of his era in which Russell prompts DJ " what you going to do about billy ray ? So dj says I'm going to guard him if assigned. But Russell pressed him what do you mean he had 28 last time are you gonna guard him or are you going to need help. Embarrassed DJ chuckled and said I'm going to need help ." Russell laughs and says that's right. " or words to that effect. I thought it would be on here but when a man with such enormous talents sinks so low it's as if what others saw in him he couldnt see in himself that's the alcoholism compounding some low self esteem. I also thought youd have his 4 backboard breaking rim shaking you cant ignore me cba play into post houston blazer second chance. Dr. Jack an ocd basketball coach saw a God and couldnt mold him into a team structure which is when a more refined and coachable Calvin Natt took his place. Now CN was really good but BRB was a super man but his mad powers were not under control. You watch these old clips and you see the cringe factor of his defenders like oh no here he comes again I cant stop him. Take another look. He earned his jail time but if he runs the 12 steps one day at a time he ll get what's left of his alignment problem straightened out. Man on a pogo stick no lie.

  • @7milejulio
    @7milejulio Před 2 lety +2

    We have to acknowledge our cultural problem. Too many of us are destroyed by the toxic environment that Blackistan is. And by the time stamp of this mans life it's a problem at least 60 years old.

  • @ejonesfrmg
    @ejonesfrmg Před 2 lety +2

    Man im just amazed at how this man had his hairline in tact for all those years😂😂

  • @mrdumpson1710
    @mrdumpson1710 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow never heard of him very interesting tho my story and play style was very similar to Billy Ray Bates felt like @Stunted Growth was doing a feature on my basketball career 😂💯

  • @Footlong1227
    @Footlong1227 Před 2 lety

    Here i am now watching my requested video tnx.
    Bates was a Basketball god in the 80s here in the Philippines

  • @danielp5317
    @danielp5317 Před 8 měsíci

    Man of course I remember Billy Ray Bates that name is hard to forget. And he was a baller. Done in by all the things in this video that was his own doing and a victim of a bad upbringing . Death of dad

  • @albertlee2462
    @albertlee2462 Před 2 lety

    Good video I first heard of Billy Ray when I would go to a coworkers house. He told me the story of Billy Ray when he came to Portland and how he was referred to as Black Jesus and how he had a great playoff run averaging like 20 but unfortunately some things derailed his career

  • @car1it05WAY
    @car1it05WAY Před 2 lety +1

    Billy Ray Bates or Wilt Chamberlain?

  • @jpsproductions9
    @jpsproductions9 Před 2 lety

    Your channel is needed

  • @newetman4382
    @newetman4382 Před 2 lety +1

    I grew up rooting for the team he played back home in PH. He was a monster on the court. He was one time tandemd with an import named Michael Hackett. They were unstoppable!!! I didn't know he had vice issues. I hope he turns to the Lord!

  • @Footlong1227
    @Footlong1227 Před 2 lety

    Can u do another Philippine import. Tony Harris. Scored 103 in The pro league in the Philippines

  • @___Anakin.Skywalker
    @___Anakin.Skywalker Před 2 lety

    My pops who grew up in the Philippines told me stories about Billy Ray Bates.

  • @romusicent6895
    @romusicent6895 Před 2 lety

    Yes

  • @jovangrant6053
    @jovangrant6053 Před 2 lety

    I heard about him on a Facebook game called Franchise Basketball

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 Před 2 lety +1

    Do Skip Wise(Clemson), Ernie Graham (Maryland), Lafonte Johnson(UNLV), Keith booth, Dee Brown, Mark Karcher

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 Před 2 lety +1

      keith booth and Dee brown the only 2 I know from this list.
      Would be nice to know some more.
      Brown has been an nba star so it's easy to remember.
      Booth instead came to italian league. He was insanely good. Italian league was good test but he averaged around 30 a game and what was most amazing was his smooth and effortless style in doing it.
      Edit:
      Ir was not Keith but David Booth I remember here play. Forner DePaul blue demon. Here he actually looked like one: 38.8 per game and a 56 pts season high. He took Oscar Schmidt's jersey in Pavia and performed as well as the brazilian legend. Not an easy task.

  • @BillyOceanSmokin
    @BillyOceanSmokin Před 2 lety

    AVERAGED 28 REBOUNDS!!!! I know it was in High School but still just sounds crazy, I had never heard of him 🙏🏽

  • @Tomasite
    @Tomasite Před 2 lety +1

    Josh Childress next?

  • @bjnt92281
    @bjnt92281 Před 2 lety +4

    Sounds like he could have been a solid 6th man if he got his off the court situation together. Instant offense off the bench.

    • @andrebryant5081
      @andrebryant5081 Před 2 lety +2

      Seem like if focus he could have been a NBA starter and probably star for smaller market NBA team

  • @jasonvillanueva312
    @jasonvillanueva312 Před 2 lety

    He is considered as one of the best basketball imports here in the Philippines. He became the Michael Jordan here. I even have a pair of his signature shoe, which can be considered a rare shoe.

  • @Marcothemillionaire
    @Marcothemillionaire Před 2 lety +1

    ok so how isa he reading 3 grade level and go to college

  • @dontsleep1880
    @dontsleep1880 Před 2 lety

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @adrianwiltshire9563
    @adrianwiltshire9563 Před 2 lety

    Such a disappointment. I just don’t get it!

  • @zeroturn7091
    @zeroturn7091 Před 2 lety

    It’s pronounced Kawsee esco.