Labour in power must stand up to the far-right | Zack Polanski interview
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- We were joined by the deputy leader of the Green Party Zack Polanski during our election night live coverage, where he outlined what Keir Starmer's Labour need to do as soon as they get the keys to power.
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The opening statement of no cap on bankers bonuses but a cap on child benefit tells you everything you need to know about establishment politics .
Unfortuneatly the UK relies on the finance "industry" to bolster its national income. City of London and all that.
Shouldn't have children if you can't afford them.
Banker's bonuses aren't paid by the taxpayer.
@@stujujitwingfut5192 Sure, go a head and stop people having babies. But don’t come crying to me if immigration goes up to counter it.
@@dondoodatno, but obscene bankers bonuses lead to high risk trading strategies that lead to situations like the 2008 banking crash, in which several large banks were bailed out to the tune of billions, which WAS paid by public taxation.
Clear and just leadership as always. Thank you Zack.
Couldn’t agree more as a life long socialist I can no longer support Labour, after 50 years I voted Green for the first time & know there are many others like me that will support Greens as Labour is now centre right!
Try getting a job instead?
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Agreed. Greens came 2nd in either 37 or 47 seats, most of those now held by Labour. Also don't forget the Socialist independents. 500 votes short of unseating Wes Streeting and Jonathan Ashworth was ousted by an Indy. Labour are just Tories now. But this majority of theirs is built on very shaky ground.
@@NeonVisualWhy do you think they don't?
@@django3422 His diet of right wing propaganda has broken his brain, in his mind all lefties are scroungers because the Daily Mail told him so.
*there are no neolib solutions to neolib problems - and fash is one of those problems.*
Well said.
Ya yes neoliberal means whatever I don't like.
I hope they hold an incumbent Labour government to account from the Left!
If the Greens would recognise the need for nuclear power to achieve net zero, I would consider voting for them.
This! absolutely this. When a political party bases their policies on disinformation (like their entire Nuclear policy is), that doesnt send a good signal at how much they listen to the electorate.
Agree - weirdly, whenever I make that point on this channel my comments get deleted?!
hear hear
Absolutely, it's such German nonsense
This! I absolutely agree. The Green Party's reasons for not supporting Nuclear power have been disproven over and over again, and border on disinformation. we need a nuclear power strategy in this country to give us energy independence, as does every country in the modern world, and we need the greens to embrace the idea that nuclear power is a green form of energy that, even with disasters such as Chornobyl and Fukushima, haven't led to mass extinction events. less lives have been lost in the nuclear industry than in renewables. Solar and wind have their place, but quite simply, their capacity pales into insignificance compared to the ability of nuclear power to reach net zero inside of three decades.
Fewer votes than Corbyn (Starmer).
Never heard of him.
More MPs than Corbyn.
@dondoodat due to tory implosion. People voted to remove the Tories, not because they were excited for a starmer led gov. It was a blandslide.
@@mrRuss11108 Are you complaining ?
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In your opinion.
People rejected Corbyn, they voted tactically to get Starmer.
The result is the result.
Remember, everyone knew what Johnson was and people still voted for him over Corbyn.
It's politicians like Zack that made me vote Green for the first time ever this year. Labour aren't left enough for me anymore and I couldn't bring myself to vote for them.
Socialism for the corporations and austerity for the people.
Corporate socialism out corporate socialism back in.
Vote Green for some good old fashioned democrat socialism.
But they are pro mass immigration. Like the Torys. (1.2 million in one year, House of Commons Libary).
Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Oligarchs love immigration.
Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
Problem with Greens is their misguided disdain for nuclear energy. We should be looking at spent fuel reactors.
FFS - explain corporate socialism? Oxymoron?
@@colincampbell4261 "FFS - explain corporate socialism?"
Corporate bailouts and subsidies, for starters.
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Privatising the profits, socialising the debt.
I don´t think Starmer fundamentally gets this. He doesn´t get that there´s a fundamental clash of ideas that needs to be solved. He is kind of running on the "good competent well run government department ticket", and sure, I´m sure the Blairite ministers will be more competent than the Tories.
But that way of governing isn´t enough when there are fundamental issues that need to be sorted, like wealth inequality, xenophobia, deindustrialisation and community breakdown. You can´t solve it just by sticking on a plaster.
It's easy to run on competence when the sitting government has been slowly imploding for 7 years... but starmer is a hold his finger up to the wind or hold his hand out kind of politician.. he's going to find out that a change in government isn't the nly change people want..
Wahh wahh labour wahh
@@NeonVisual Very insightful.
Was wondering how long it was going to take reeves to say we all need to tighten our belts, and the coutry needs to live within its means.
I wonder what the green party would say to the Scottish people about their independence 🤔
The Scottish Greens are a pro-independence party, which was one of the reasons they got my vote.
@@Magsterzb In Scotland, I´d have probably voted Labour reluctantly, as I dislike the SNP and Scottish independence. I don´t think Scottish nationalists realise how damaging it would be to the Scottish economy.
I wouldn´t be against voting Green, but voting against independence in a referendum either.
@@Magsterzb They also want to put Scotland back in the EU, which means a hard border between the Scots and the rest of the UK. As an Englishman I would be delighted with that outcome, especially as we would be forced by the EU to impose tariffs on any goods or services originating from the UK. The UK doesn't get much from Scotland as they don't really have many exports, but Scotland gets almost all goods and services from the UK. Nothing much grows there so they aren't self sufficient for plant food at all, they would have to import it by boat from the continent so new ferry ports will be needed. They won't be getting anything by road that doesn't fit in a boat, and won't have access to anything from the channel tunnel either without tariffs payable to England.
Unlike Ireland there's no good Friday agreement to necessitate a soft border, it will be exactly the same as the border between Dover and Calais for anything sourced from England, N. Ireland, and Wales. Scotland will need to get everything it needs from the EU single market, and nothing from the UK unless they are happy to pay more. They'll need a passport to enter the UK and cross the border with England, as will all drivers of goods vehicles with the appropriate paperwork and tariffs paid. Anyone who crosses the border for work every day will probably want to get a job on their own side of the border, as the morning commute across passport control won't be ideal...
And of course they'll no longer have access to the pound and will have to use Euros, and of course absolutely no money whatsoever from Westminster or anywhere in the UK, so they had better be sure they have done their economic homework to work out how much more expensive everything is going to be for them coming across from the EU on container boats as there's no road access to the EU, they would become the most isolated EU country in the club, and they've also got the membership fee of around a hundred million quid per week, which would be a discount off the full amount due once they have settled in to the idea of being an underfunded vassal state of the EU with a total of 3 MEP seats.
It will be the EU making decisions for Scotland, they won't be able to veto anything and the result will be 27 countries dictating to Scotland, which is exactly what they complain about happens from Westminster, only they will be completely drowned out and won't have the opportunity to shape any of the EU's agendas. They will be rule takers, not rule makers.
My new regular vote.
It must be quite disheartening to base your opening question on an exit poll that was way off
Good interview tho
He’s not wrong about the number of social homes that are needed but a government needs to also maintain the existing social stock which there isn’t enough money for. Also, private homes for individuals are needed if home ownership is still the gold standard to aspire to, but prices need to deflate somewhat. The residualisation of social housing has rampant for some time - the people who are housed now are only the most needy, there is a huge population who may have been eligible 20 years ago that wouldn’t be put in the top bandings now. Source: I’m a chartered housing professional working for a Housing Association.
But he is supporting mass immigration/ cheap labour for capitalism to.
We will never keep up with supply now.
Interesting. Also, what is the distinction between social housing and affordable housing?
Is it still on a points system? What points would an asylum seeker get as to a lone parent homeless person.
@@colincampbell4261 Affordable housing is part of the private housing stock. They're private houses for sale, just much cheaper.
To answer the questions in order:
1) I can’t comment on your local area as I don’t know where you are but where I work 97.7% of the tenants are White British which is higher than the area statistics for population ethnicity split.
2) Social housing is made up of Local Authority and Housing Association (formed from scratch or from large volume stock transfer) stock. Affordable housing is housing for sale/rent (sometimes by the social sector) using discounts/criteria laid out in an S106 agreement or suchlike.
3) It’ll depend on the Local Authority who take ownership of the strategy for banding. So where I am the LA does the banding requirements for 4 bands, there are 3 large Housing Associations who own the stock within the LA and we admin the shared allocation so if you apply for housing in our county or any of the neighbouring ones it’s one application and we have the contract with the LA to manage that. In our county being a veteran places you in the highest band for example. Also 50% of our direct lets are direct to homeless people. You are classed as homeless if you are at risk of losing your home within 56 days, so it’s not only street homeless.
Labour will let in the far right without a powerful left wing alliance, just look to countries across Europe if you need evidence of what's coming here. Whilst, being a socialist,I voted for the Greens this time I was dismayed to see that the Greens did not stand aside in Wes Streeting's constituency - had they done so, and recommended voting for Leanne Mohamad, the independent pro-Palestine candidate would have won. A huge scalp missed, a man whose MP funding comes from the private medical sector and is now in charge of the NHS.
So I'll say it again - without a powerful alliance on the left everything you say is pointless.
10:05 - Over three thousand Green seats! Given the size of the HoC, where do the rest go? 😘
What we need is The Labour Party... NOT New, New Labour... See where we are after 45 years without it.
Neither child benefits or bankers bonuses were on my Green party flier..
Provide a working alternative, results and not rehtoric
He speaks very well 👏
Look out for reform look into it funding the corruption and greed.
In view of Farages comments about Putin , this sounds like a job for MI5 .
Funny how his comments on NATO are so closely aligned with Corbyn.
@@0w784g If you’re suggesting that Corbyn be investigated by MI5 , I’m sure he has been , particularly during the Tory years…..ohhhh they have just ended, but if it becomes necessary then so be it.
The question is , has Farage who is a Putin fanboy , and acted to divide the U.K. from its European neighbours, thereby acting as an ages of Russian foreign policy.
Let’s throw in Johnson for good measure.
@@0w784g Don’t deflect. We are talking about Farage and Putin.
Farage being racist, let's get him on the telly.
Farage being honest, he's a threat to society!
Well spoken guy, much more adept than Keith.
Starmer rubber stamps water bill price rises UP TO 44%!!!!
Just govern sensibly. The problems will solve themselves. But considering what im witnessing and experiencing at the moment, it is probably going to get worse.
While I am an unabashed labour supporter. I will admit that it is concerning how much influence big business, especially builders have on the government.
I would go as far as to say the reason Greens only have 4 seats is because they haven’t done a deal with these people and a Green Party in power may look much like labour/ conservatives.
As a result the far right who will promise the earth to become elected are probably just 5 years away from governing.
The huge sums of money flowing from businesses is bribery pure and simple and needs to be stopped.
Unfortunately a Labour government addicted to this cash will not do this.
"As a result the far right who will promise the earth to become elected are probably just 5 years away from governing."
I keep seeing claims like this - are you referring to Reform UK, which has a grand total of 5 MPs?
Does anyone actually believe that Reform will hit triple-figures in the next general election, let alone form government?
@@redlightmax Last week they had no elected MPs, now they have 4 and they came second in 55 seats and got large swings in over 100 seats. if labour fails to sort out the country’s problems I doubt the electorate will want to go back to the chaos of the Tories, the greens have no money for a campaign that leaves either Lib Dem’s or reform and reform will promise the earth as opposed to the libdems.
If they get 100 seats and the Tories make a small recovery we will see a Tory reform coalition with Nigel at the head of
The reason the Greens don't have more seats is because they have been absolutely terrible anywhere where they have had power.
They are NIMBYs, they reject solar farms on soil that could be used for food, they reject nuclear, and they have all sorts of crazy ideas like doubling the national debt to spend 180 billion on "green issues", which is more than we spend on the entire NHS.
I live in Brighton Pavilion. It's non-brightonion students who vote them in year after year, and then they go back home to wherever mummy and daddy live and don't have to deal with living under a green MP or council, although we did kick every single one of them out of the council due to the shear wastage and incoherent planning.
"Far right" 😂. The far right were beaten by a man dressed as a bin.
Great points Zack.
Why depends on your definition of far right. If you think, like the media, that far right is anything right of extreme left, then no. To be honest I strongly believe this country needs to work harder to obliterate the extreme left than it does the far right.
@@Cat10980 There is no extreme left in the UK.
The UK barely has a left at all. Greens somewhat, Lib Dems sort of, and the Collective are basically our entire left wing. It's not looking good.
Labour need to take immigration levels as a serious issue and actually reduce them. starmer has said he will...but i suspect hes lying
Of course Labour will reduce immigration. There is only one direction it can go after 1.2 million in 2 years. It'll go down to a mere 1 million in 2 years and Labour will chalk it up as a win. 😂
Fall in living standards always leads to far right gains, encouraged by our duplicitous media, run by oligarch billionaires!
No money for policies...because of tory policies...like brexit....and the HS2 high speed train.
I thought the 7-way debates were by far the best ones. Maybe this Politics Joe presenter is not fit for the job if he can’t pay attention to all the speakers?
They've got 5 years to turn the country around because given the small vote share that labour had, it only takes a few thousand voters to swing here or there, and that majority is gone.
"...it only takes a few thousand voters to swing here or there, and that majority is gone."
A 174-seat majority gone in one term? Not bloody likely.
Most votes go to centre/left parties so ending the unrepresentative farce of FPTP would go some way towards staving off idiotic right wing governance.
Reform are likely to gain more Tory votes, and Labour will bleed some to Lib Dem. As long as millennials are the primary working group, we'll make sure the Tories never get in power again in our lifetimes.
The crisis in Israel will take precedent.
When life is bad, the far-right, like Reform UK, thrives. When life is good, the far-right shrinks.
Labour has two election-cycles to make life good - or, at least, much less bad.
They have 5 years to win the next election, I don't think a win next time is guaranteed
Immigration is destroying European Civilisation.
We are living through Immigration Austerity driven by the 1%.
Wages are suppressed and our public services are overwhelmed.
Immigration is capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration.
Capitalism will never invest in training, robotics or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour.
Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
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Still doing the copy and paste, I see.
@@dondoodat I've given up with him after all the Putin apologist stuff...
Reform is not the far-right, they stand for the people,, stop the BS narrative
So important to not demonise or belittle Reform voters, these are people who can be friends, family, people you care about who have genuine concerns, amplified and gaslit by right wing echochambers. The important thing to do is to give them a reason to have faith in politicians again and not be seduced by the oversimplified 'solutions' of the far right, and the creep toward authoritarianism through fake promises of 'freedom'
"So important to not demonise or belittle Reform voters, these are people who can be friends, family..."
The racist uncle, we get it.
I don´t entirely agree with the view that everyone deserves respect. Sure I´m not going to deliberately wind up Reform voters on the street, but the Reform party deserves nothing but endless mockery.
The Tory party effectively implemented a toned down version of Farageism between 2019-2024 and if you are still supporting the same ideas, you´re a drooling idiot.
I think this is totally true but I struggle with the how. I accept that some people that vote for them aren’t as extreme as some of the members that we hear about all the time. Then on the other hand though I can’t understand how they are tempted to vote that way in the first place. You can have genuine concerns about immigration and still see that NF is a terrible man who says awful things about anyone he doesn’t like and how his history as a politician proves that he will not serve those voters, he will only serve himself.
@@SashaGrace94 My realisation came following Brexit vote... I woke that morning utterly convinced there was no way the country would vote against its own financial interest and believe the 'they're taking your jobs' rhetoric, to be tunned by the result, but the warning signs had been there. My son lives in Rhyl with his mum, a lovely family, hard working but struggling, and they were all bemused when I said I was a remainer, and then these people i love would then come out with 'soundbites' of the Vote Leave stuff (financed by Russia lets remind y'all), it was only then I realised the power of the echochambers they were in from social media, to whatsapp groups, riddled with 'Britain First' and other misinformation. We're now on a journey to listen to eachother more and seek to understand while I gently fact check statements or assumptions they come out with - from a place of compassion, not 'gotcha'
Labour government it socialist Thomas. 17 years SNP Scottish government worse politically yes.
Green party have unrealistic plans for the government.
The last left wing party. The right media did a good job.
The culture work he works does not make sense for most people, sad he doesn't look at the whole country and want to make it better.
Fighting for small groups and not fighting for the homeless people or workers is crazy.
The idea of the country's energy not coming from nuclear is crazy. Anything else is funding the country down fall. Green energy project is great but research we can sell in 10 year's. The country needs new power stations 10 years ago, we import electricity and will have black out over the next 5 years due to the poor funding/planning.
Authoritarian give over, the state can't endlessly pay for the whim of parents it's ridiculous
We either make parenting affordable, or we import workers in the place of children in a collapsing population.
We need every person in the country to be in a couple, and to have at least 2 children or the population collapses.
For some time now we haven't been hitting that number, we're at 1.6 children per couple. So, what would you rather we do? We either give support to parents, or we import more labour without any infrastructure or homes, or we can means test the state pension and NHS access by economically inactive pensioners.
You can't have your cake and eat it.
The answer is simple.. make work pay.. state fund preschool child care would help.. when both parents work fulltime the cost of child care is more than your mortgage or rent, work simply doesn't pay.
@@Ma55ey Before the war it was possible for a home with children to have a single breadwinner. After the war so many men were lost that women had to enter the workforce to try and make up for it.
Wages have gone down hill since Tory austerity and mass migration dragged both wages and living standards down, squeezing in over 8 million more people with less than 1.5 million homes having been built.
Now it's not possible for a single breadwinner to even pay for themselves and an out of work partner, to say nothing for an out of work partner and a child. This is because wealth has gradually been taken away from workers and into the hands of the previous generation who have set the entire system up to syphon passive incomes while adding no value to the economy, such as parasitic home scalpers who style themselves as "landlords", aka rent seekers.
Work still pays, it's just that you must give up that pay on a monthly home subscription, or extortionate mortgage rates on ever smaller homes. Greed has won, and unless workers just stop working, nothing will change as greed knows no bounds.
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Whenever you hear someone say ‘far right’ these days you should automatically assume the person you’re listening to lost their library card a long time ago.
But we have a far right. Reform is right there.
I was considering voting green but was put off by their NIMBYism and bizarre policy about reducing the number of C-sections, this is a private matter between women and their healthcare professionals, it's not for political parties to wade in on such topics.
Fash Garage conman plc - Putin's foriegn policy along with Truss's ecnomics policies and Trumpanzee bigotry - tell that to the UK electorate.
Excellent summation of Deform UK, all you missed is off is Osborne's austerity.
You're what normal people call a triggered extremist.
And this guy is far left and just as dangerous
I actually would like to know what you think the danger is
'Labour in power must stand up to the far-right'. How can it do that when so many of its own policies have a right wing bias?
Lets not grade their homework before they have handed it in.
You hold them to account from before day one. You can bet the business interests and rich individual donars won't be waiting around for what they want to be delivered.
@@mentality-monster DONARS lol
Sounds like you want to give them a free pass
@@keithparker1346 That sounds like something an extremist would say.
"Far right" 😂
This guy does know how much they've already raised capital gains tax right?
Women. Are you man enough to protect over half of this country. I am diametrically opposed to your beliefs and policies but prepared to listen. For a while at least.
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“We need intersectional justice”
And that’s why these absolute lunatics will never get anywhere near power
They got a 1.3 million more votes than last time.
Just saying.
It depends what is meant, if it means lower penalties just for being a minority, then yes that is crap. If it means things like taking into account that the justice system might have some biases, then that´s simply a fact.
Indeed, one issue with the judiciary, is that they are overwhelmingly privately educated and many of them haven´t had experiences that 90% of the population have, i.e going to a comprehensive school.
Also, we don´t have enough people from minorities in the judiciary (though it is improving) and there are well known biases, i.e black defendants tend to get heavier sentences, even when the facts of the case are pretty similar than white defendants do.
Does 'far right' include the Islamic community taking into account their mainstream views on women's rights, homophobic/transphobic stance, views on apostasy, and their objection to indoctrination of young school children to be 'educated' in such matters?
Evidence of any of this being a widespread issue please?
Traditional Christianity has basically the same views on all those things btw and everyone seems chill with that.
I'm against religious fundamentalism as much as the next guy but usually seems like anything actually concerning comes from a Facebook meme or isn't common enough to be a systemic issue
Do you know what a loaded question is? It´s exactly the one you asked. And yes, homophobia is definitely an issue in Muslim communities. But do you know that Gay Marriage only got passed because pretty much all Labour MPs voted for it? Cameron wouldn´t have got it through without Labour support.
Also, do you know who most transphobia in the UK comes from? It comes from the right wing press, the Conservative party and TERFS like JK Rowling. Yet funnily enough you´re not talking about that, are you?
Islamic Extremists and the far-right are both authoritarian and ultra-conservative.
Just with different flags.
They have much in common.
No, that's hate crime and is illegal.
If you see it, report it, and stop whinging.
The assumption that all Muslims think the same way is the major flaw in your argument.
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And the far left.
I tried to write a coherent summary of whilst I am sympathetic to the Green party's ideas but ultimately think they are disingenuous opportunists, but failed. So this will have to suffice.
🌟 If only Zack had stayed loyal to the Lib Dems, who he once claimed had all the right answers, he would be sitting in the new parliament and standing up to the far-right #numptynonsense #😮😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We've gone from one WEF member as PM to another....
Sorry I can’t vote for this man. And never would
Why?
Zack hasnt got a clue. Just full of hot air.
What a load of nonsense Refom are not far right
Reform are far-Right.
@@Craig121000 yawn.
They are mainstream particularly on immigration.
@@Craig121000we have moved beyond the old Left v Right paradigm.
The moon is also made of green cheese 🧀 Not right realy my left foot .😂😂😂
@@Craig121000 the far reaches of a political spectrum force their enemies into ghettos or concentration camps and create punitive laws to subjugate their opposition; such as..... hate speech laws???
Don't get caught saying the wrong thing or you're off to Jay Wick, gammon!
A vote for the far left Green party is a vote to be poorer
There are some stances on which I criticise the Greens, i.e Nuclear power. However, their public transport policy would be infinitely better for people living in poor areas than any other party´s (unless you count Corbyn and Galloway).
In pretty much any European country, at least in medium sized towns,, it´s possible to live without a car pretty well. In much of the UK that´s not the case.
Apart from Corbyn and Galloway, they also have by far the best policy on housing. I.e people can´t afford a house and building social housing is one of the best solutions for that issue. It´s not rocket science, if you don´t have competition from the public sector, landlords and property developers don´t have any incentive to lower their prices.
As soon as you label reform as 'far right' I can't take you seriously. You end up pushing more people away from your policies.
You could drastically reduce the appeal of the far right by just doing normal stuff like drastically reducing the insane levels of net migration we have and automatically deporting foreign criminals.
Not hard is it?
Green party what a joke 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Labour has “stood on a centre right platform” has to be the most naive oblivious things I’ve heard this week,
Labour are an increasingly far-left party,
That’s running on this so-called “progressive” platform,
They unironically call each other “Comrade”
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Are you off your nuts mate? Labour just expelled several left wing members from its party, if anything its been becoming increasingly more right wing
Russian bot alert!!!
You would need to be completely delusional to call the Labour government far left.
But then I guess if you are right of Hitler everyone is on the far left.
"Labour are an increasingly far-left party..."
Tell that to Jeremy Corbyn.
Labour's platform is literally to the right. It's still a neoliberal thatherite economic platform
Wes Streeting uses "leftie" as a slur
Tells me everything I need to know about his political leanings!