A socialist analysis of the Labour manifesto

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
  • Andrew Fisher was Director of Policy of the Labour Party, and was at the heart of Jeremy Corbyn's manifestos in 2017 and 2019.
    He swung by JOE Towers to speak to us about Keir Starmer's Labour manifesto, and what the country should expect if he takes power in July.
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Komentáře • 642

  • @chrisengland9995
    @chrisengland9995 Před 7 dny +81

    Tax the super wealthy, close tax loopholes. Wealth inequality is destroying this country.

    • @Oldhandlewasabitcringe
      @Oldhandlewasabitcringe Před 7 dny +5

      Kier removing non dom tax exemptions for the elites 💪

    • @tituscrow4951
      @tituscrow4951 Před 6 dny +1

      @@Oldhandlewasabitcringeirony? 👀

    • @tinkerbellUK
      @tinkerbellUK Před 6 dny +5

      VOTE REFORM!! Sod labour

    • @django3422
      @django3422 Před 5 dny +8

      ​@@tinkerbellUKRight, the merchant bankers and hedge fund managers who want to deregulate will definitely have your best interests at heart...

    • @tinkerbellUK
      @tinkerbellUK Před 5 dny

      @@django3422 yeh n then there is the Bank of England literally fucking us over - labour will FK this country even worse imo

  • @hollyhead
    @hollyhead Před 8 dny +139

    you know the economic state is really bad when journalists can't even afford socks

  • @YangLee-oc7ko
    @YangLee-oc7ko Před 3 dny +121

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      @TracyJacob-st6de Před 3 dny

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      @OliviaAva-fm3nn Před 3 dny +1

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    • @cristifruzsi-yg4wt
      @cristifruzsi-yg4wt Před 3 dny

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    • @GraceChloe-ml4kd
      @GraceChloe-ml4kd Před 3 dny

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    • @RemiCyril
      @RemiCyril Před 3 dny

      ​I thought myself and my family were
      the only ones enjoying Janet
      trade benefits

  • @jackoh991
    @jackoh991 Před 8 dny +161

    How can disabled people return to work if not given enough health care to be healthy enough to work?

    • @janejenkins5137
      @janejenkins5137 Před 8 dny +46

      And not all disabled people can work.

    • @jackoh991
      @jackoh991 Před 8 dny +41

      @@janejenkins5137 yes very true. And they are valid and valuable members of society even if they can't work

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander Před 8 dny +1

      37% or Bangladeshis are registered as disabled.
      How?

    • @DizY_8
      @DizY_8 Před 8 dny +23

      @@RichardEnglander Source?

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander Před 8 dny +3

      @@DizY_8 my memory, I remember seeing a graph about it, Pakistanis were next highest.
      It is a combination of inbreeding and fraud. Read the Born in Bradford study.

  • @tomtom-gi9eo
    @tomtom-gi9eo Před 8 dny +89

    Whos smart arse idea was it to privatise care homes? 🤦‍♂️

    • @flippy66
      @flippy66 Před 7 dny +32

      Or railways, all public transport really, water supplies, parts of healthcare, the list goes on. Anything that could be sold has been sold.

    • @twistedsteeltv6130
      @twistedsteeltv6130 Před 7 dny +11

      The rich people who figured they could make money off having vulnerable people pay them to care for them.

    • @twistedsteeltv6130
      @twistedsteeltv6130 Před 7 dny

      ​@@flippy66@flippy66 that's Neolibralism/late stage capitalism and those that enacted it.
      As we all know, Capitalism only works when growth is achieved. How is that done? By generating profit for shareholders through "free market economics"
      Way I see it; What do the Capitalists do to maintain their power, positions and wealth in society when they'd monitised everything they could pre-Neolibralism? Simple, they go after public services.
      Oh your taxes pay for the railways? Well how about now you pay a private company who'll run the service more "efficiently and cheaply" (which ofc has to make a profit) then sell that service back to us all the while some rich prat is laughing.
      Rinse and repeat across the national infrastructure and then when they've maxed out that honeypot what do they go do next?
      We need to nationalise all our public services fully and have them run in the interest of the UK not foreign shareholders and governments.

    • @calumbishop7082
      @calumbishop7082 Před 7 dny +19

      Thatcher. When it comes to "Who's smart arse idea was it to privatise (insert thing here)", the answer is always Thatcher.

    • @samuel5742
      @samuel5742 Před 7 dny +1

      If there is a reliable, tax funded, public care option, it makes sense for a private option to exist for those who can and will pay for shorter wait times, larger rooms, more amenities, and so on.
      Competing with free means you have to provide something extra in order to attract customers, or residents/patients in this case.
      But in a fully privatised market, the basic laws of economics apply, wherein one has normal goods and services (what consumers want/need), and inferior goods and services (what consumers can afford).
      So yeah, nah, privatising care is a great idea under circumstances that the UK presently does not enjoy.

  • @johnirwin3276
    @johnirwin3276 Před 8 dny +144

    Austerity never ended.

    • @RhetoricalMuse
      @RhetoricalMuse Před 7 dny +5

      It wont until we tax the super rich

    • @vicicooper4720
      @vicicooper4720 Před 7 dny +1

      @@RhetoricalMuse Do you know what happens when you tax the super rich? First you get a drop in the ocean because there are few of them and second they go abroad and so pay zero tax. Super rich people can live anywhere.

    • @RhetoricalMuse
      @RhetoricalMuse Před 7 dny

      @@vicicooper4720
      *First you get a drop in the ocean because there are few of them*
      Billions mate, billions. 165 billionaires in the UK, 4.8% of the population - or 3360000 multi-millionaires.
      *they go abroad and so pay zero tax*
      They can go wherever they fucking want, their assets are HERE. One cannot take their banks, multiple homes, businesses and whatever else with them.
      *Super rich people can live anywhere*
      See above.
      Furthermore, did it cross your mind that they may actually LIKE it here?

    • @vicicooper4720
      @vicicooper4720 Před 7 dny +1

      You are not wrong. Austerity started when the big banks in US misbehaved. Cameron's answer was austerity, he now acknowledges it was wrong. Covid and Ukraine have not helped. We have a way to go...

    • @partlyawesome
      @partlyawesome Před 6 dny +4

      @@vicicooper4720 not if you target how they gain money within the country

  • @TheCreativemammal
    @TheCreativemammal Před 7 dny +13

    This is the most thoughtful analysis I've seen throughout this whole election. I feel like a man who has been walking through the desert for days under the baking sun who has finally found a small sip of water.

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op Před 5 dny

      You've not done much analysis yourself then to think that this is thoughtful.

    • @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420
      @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Před 4 dny +1

      Vinny ​mate. Stake a claim. Criticise a clear stance. Don't do this pissbaby sillyness

  • @samlawrence2239
    @samlawrence2239 Před 7 dny +27

    To put £7bn into context. The difference between the defence budget that we need to spend to be a member of NATO (2%) and the amount we currently spend (2.3%) is around £7bn. And Labour will raise it to 2.5%. £7bn is around £100 per person - for context, an MRI examination costs the NHS around £300. It's quite telling that for health spending they use big number, whilst they use small % for military spending.

    • @tituscrow4951
      @tituscrow4951 Před 6 dny

      Government spending on the uk per annum is around 1200 billion. That extra 7 billion will make ALL the difference 🤦🏻‍♂️🪦😐

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito Před 8 dny +55

    Really do feel like Labour are just gonna status quo on issues where they need drastic change, the public will feel the lack of change and we'll be right back with the Tories in an election or two.

    • @nlewin5072
      @nlewin5072 Před 7 dny

      It feels like it, doesn't it? If people don't notice 'change' from Starmer and Reeves it will just fuel Farage, which will stoke the whole right narrative.

    • @emrebennett2857
      @emrebennett2857 Před 7 dny +18

      I almost agree with you.
      Labour will win - things will continue to get worse. Then in 5 years time either reform wins, or farage joins the Tories and they win

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op Před 5 dny +1

      Then you don't understand this Labour party. There will be as great a social change as when Tony Blair came in, is everyone blind to this?

    • @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420
      @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Před 4 dny +2

      ​@@VinnyCarwash-js8opit's at the point where it's gotten so bad an actual revolution would be more appropriate. Labour have been hollowed out.

    • @quintuscrinis8032
      @quintuscrinis8032 Před 2 dny

      Which is why we need a Liberal Democrat opposition either to keep the pressure on Labour to do something real or to be in the position to be the government in 2029 and make the changes we need then.

  • @wattbenj
    @wattbenj Před 8 dny +121

    This time instead of the 'eat s*** and die' variety of austerity that we had under Osborne, Reeves is going to bring us the 'there is no austerity and if it so happens that there is, you will thank us for it' variety of austerity.

    • @danielwebb8402
      @danielwebb8402 Před 8 dny +2

      Osbourne's austerity was "public sector a greater share of gdp every single year than in any single year from 97-07".
      So not austere

    • @wattbenj
      @wattbenj Před 8 dny +11

      @@danielwebb8402 Oh yes, our economy shrank 6% in 2008 and then we very much enjoyed all of those 1% growth years that followed.
      ‘Please sir, can I have some more?’

    • @richardmadden8742
      @richardmadden8742 Před 8 dny +1

      That's easy to achieve when you preside over low/no growth for 14 years.

    • @davidparry5310
      @davidparry5310 Před 8 dny +12

      ​@@danielwebb8402Reducing the state's share of GDP has, I'd contend, always been _at best_ a secondary objective of austerity. The main one has always been to use a crisis of the capitalist system to legitimise efforts to re-organise the economy and society more and more according to the logic of market competition. It's called 'austerity' because it involves a systematic assault, not so much on state spending as a whole, but on those aspects of state spending that are at least ostensibly designed to maximise social welfare. That most definitely happened under Osborne.

    • @pgl0897
      @pgl0897 Před 8 dny +1

      Spot on.

  • @taranjk1
    @taranjk1 Před 8 dny +40

    This is why I'm voting green.
    Lib Dems and Greens have the only left leaning economic plan not based in continued austerity.

    • @kinggeoffrey3801
      @kinggeoffrey3801 Před 7 dny +6

      Agree. The only two parties I'd vote for now. I like the Greens idea about taxing the elites more as well.

    • @superspecky4eyes
      @superspecky4eyes Před 7 dny +14

      @@kinggeoffrey3801 The Green Party also want to ban nuclear power which I personally think is a massive L, if we want to achieve "Net Zero"

    • @kinggeoffrey3801
      @kinggeoffrey3801 Před 7 dny +8

      @@superspecky4eyes no manifesto is perfect. I'd take banning Nuclear over privatisation of the NHS.

    • @ArtyFactual_Intelligence
      @ArtyFactual_Intelligence Před 7 dny

      @@superspecky4eyes Nuclear Power is just kicking the CLEAN-UP can down the street for a future generation to solve.

    • @aaopopanda9205
      @aaopopanda9205 Před 7 dny

      ​@@kinggeoffrey3801Good thing the Tories or Reform won't win

  • @tersecwalsingham5778
    @tersecwalsingham5778 Před 8 dny +19

    Oli with the, 'On my way to the beach in benidorm' fit.

  • @ericaceous1652
    @ericaceous1652 Před 8 dny +43

    As I commented on another video, am voting Green. If the right can play silly buggers and do protest/anti-establishment votes for Brexit and Reform, then I shall do so leftward.
    Two fingers to the climate deniers and austerity merchants.

    • @ad25754
      @ad25754 Před 8 dny

      Re the climate deniers... Do a quick search on the amount local Green politicians have opposed/stopped renewable energy based on Nimbyism. Pretty shocking!

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Před 7 dny +5

      I don't blame you. I'm not willing to take the risk that we hand it to the Tories. As much as I don't buy into the whole climate thing completely I'm not willing to take the chance and I think it's insane for say reform to say we are throwing it in the bin. I have a duty to my children and others to not play roulette with their future. I'd love to see a largely left government I believe in a socialist system that everyone should be looked after and prosper.

    • @sebastiantaylor6236
      @sebastiantaylor6236 Před 7 dny +1

      No one's denying we polute the earth but climate change is way over blown and had been getting much better. I believe in 2014 the ozone layer hole closed up.

    • @SamHen99
      @SamHen99 Před 6 dny +2

      I think the argument around climate and net zero as I understand it, is not that we aren't damaging the environment. Its more that net zero produces net harm to the most impoverished. Whether that be exporting manufacturing to poorer countries, sourcing oil and gas from abroad, and pursuing unreliable forms of energy production, resulting in increased energy prices which directly impact those on lower incomes and the elderly. By saying actually yes we use oil and gas, and we have that in abundance, so we'll use our own while we need it while pursuing cleaner alternatives like nuclear, wind and solar, we can provide lower cost energy to the country and end reliance on foreign governments. Look at what happened to Germany when they attempted net zero prematurely. It's silly to say we aren't damaging the climate, but also net zero is a fallacy at this moment. I'm willing to be corrected if I'm wrong, however.

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Před 6 dny +1

      @@SamHen99 I think that is a fair argument. As someone who is low income (disabled) it would be nice to see some lower bills, however they aren't the end of the world for me but I'm also lucky I have solar and my house is mid terraced and has some insulation. At the height of the energy crisis my house was consuming £300 a month in gas however I have the heating on constantly. I think we should still be focusing on cleaning up though. It's not just about the climate it's about the toxic fumes that burning oil produces. If we keep moving the goal post I think it will make manufacturers lazy to hit emissions target. Everyone went mad when they bought In euro 5 but they done it and euro 6. If they can get them to virtually no harmful emissions then that would be a good thing and they aren't far off. What does annoy me is the horrific amount of emissions that shipping produces. A large container ship can be equivalent to 10+ million cars. That something we should be looking at very seriously.

  • @Talentedtadpole
    @Talentedtadpole Před 8 dny +51

    CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE WAR ON DISABLED PEOPLE??? RADIO SILENCE.

    • @vicicooper4720
      @vicicooper4720 Před 7 dny

      I don't think anyone is proposing to stop disability benefits on the genuine cases (my daughter being one case in point). Don't tell me there are not folk gaming the system.

    • @calumbell2276
      @calumbell2276 Před 7 dny +5

      @@vicicooper4720 So few and is such a small percentage of governement spending that its really a non issue

    • @Talentedtadpole
      @Talentedtadpole Před 7 dny +6

      @@vicicooper4720 recent research says there aren't. You should be ashamed.

    • @vicicooper4720
      @vicicooper4720 Před 7 dny +1

      @@Talentedtadpole Why?

    • @tituscrow4951
      @tituscrow4951 Před 6 dny

      @@vicicooper4720the Tory’s want to stop PIP it’s IN the manifesto

  • @dotty1774
    @dotty1774 Před 8 dny +45

    Top bloke Andrew 👍

    • @TheFlash-rh2el
      @TheFlash-rh2el Před 6 dny +1

      It's shocking how we wasn't allowed to interview during the 2017/19 elections.

  • @LeornianCyng
    @LeornianCyng Před 8 dny +18

    I’m praying that we don’t have to live through that. At present the progressive independent candidates, Plyd, Greens and Lib Dem’s have the best offer on the table in England and Wales. Hopefully SNP will do the same in Scotland this week. As for NI, fingers crossed for SF, SDLP and Green.

    • @maddyloveridge
      @maddyloveridge Před 8 dny +2

      plaid* just in case you don’t know

    • @matthewv4170
      @matthewv4170 Před 8 dny

      Everyone should vote independent. A fund should be put together for independents to run properl

    • @islaypupdog6750
      @islaypupdog6750 Před 8 dny

      Plaid, which claims 40bn of HS2 money even though it was never going to reach Wales and the SNP which arguably has a worse record than the Conservatives for its 17 years in power!!! How do these parties have the best to offer?

  • @Ma55ey
    @Ma55ey Před 7 dny +6

    i get called a Tory for saying things like Labour will bring in new austerity measures if they get in..

    • @James-872
      @James-872 Před 6 dny +1

      Your not the only one there are too many people who can't or just refuse to connect the dotts but that would require the ability to think and the lobbyists and media are powerfull...this was shown to us by Chomsky in his book manufacturing consent don't take it personal Chomsky also explains in his "what uncle Sam really wants" the neoliberalism agenda was long in the planning....I don't feel like voting but instead I'm voting Plaid. Good luck my friend for the future

  • @razorednight
    @razorednight Před 8 dny +20

    They keep talking about disabled people returning to work. And people who have been adjudged by a work capability assessment as unable to work. Labour are going to scrap the WCA. Why? Because they want people who've been assessed as incapable of work to go and work anyway. They want everyone who can't work to go work anyway or face benefit sanctions and go die quietly in a corner. There's been a big rise in people not working since the pandemic. Why? Because there are now more people who can't work. A Labour government will strip the the sick and disabled of all protection. Why? Because they want sick people to either do work they just can't do, or go die in a corner somewhere.

  • @Tiz147
    @Tiz147 Před 7 dny +4

    The labour party won't be doing anything that negatively effects the wealth of their donors.

  • @Nia-mac
    @Nia-mac Před 8 dny +27

    Let’s tax the asset holders.

    • @sebastiantaylor6236
      @sebastiantaylor6236 Před 7 dny

      Dumb idea, I'm guessing this would include stock shares?

    • @Nia-mac
      @Nia-mac Před 7 dny +2

      @@sebastiantaylor6236 You’re welcome to tell it to the economists who propose it but I’d be happy to hear your opinion/ideas in the meantime?

    • @tituscrow4951
      @tituscrow4951 Před 6 dny

      If we don’t tax wealth not wages we will be Argentina in the North Sea in 5-10 years. & in 5 it will be touch & go between Labour and Farage’s new party. For overall government.

  • @Adamb87
    @Adamb87 Před 8 dny +41

    If Keir were leading Tory Party with his exact same policies would the exact same people vote for him?! Real Left have to stay morally committed, consistent & courageous
    Love to you all always

    • @matthewsmith22
      @matthewsmith22 Před 8 dny +6

      Same shit, different coloured tie

    • @kingflynxi9420
      @kingflynxi9420 Před 8 dny +3

      If he were leading the tory party with these policies against say the lib dem or reform platform, I'd vote for him, but if it were against 2019 Labour I'd probably vote 2019 Labour

    • @Glasgow_kiss
      @Glasgow_kiss Před 8 dny +3

      "IF"??

    • @boogymonster7
      @boogymonster7 Před 8 dny

      The old Labour Party nearly got wiped off the map in 2019... If the "real" left is always right, why do they lose so god damn always

    • @ActuallyJamesS
      @ActuallyJamesS Před 8 dny +3

      Labour landslide would mean there is more space for that intra-Labour leftwing /centrist debate tbh

  • @Dom-fk3te
    @Dom-fk3te Před 5 dny +1

    Brilliant. I'd wager many of us didn't realise how dire this was looking

  • @flippy66
    @flippy66 Před 7 dny +3

    This will be the first election that I will not have voted in. I am politically homeless based on the manifestos of all the available parties.

    • @danielmoir13
      @danielmoir13 Před 6 dny +2

      If labour appealed to you in 2017/19 then I would recommend checking out some of the plans the green party have as well as finding out what independent candidates are standing in your constituency

  • @mentality-monster
    @mentality-monster Před 8 dny +5

    Great interview. Well done Ollie.

  • @claudiafigueiredo4979
    @claudiafigueiredo4979 Před 7 dny +2

    Government spending like a house budget this is why we keep in the sh**t. The pain will be coming in 2025

  • @dreamSurfers5912
    @dreamSurfers5912 Před 8 dny +3

    First one i watched .
    Well worth it🎉

  • @henrypassfield
    @henrypassfield Před 7 dny +3

    As always, Andrew Fisher is a tonic. Intelligent interesting and reasonable. Great.

  • @JustME-ft4di
    @JustME-ft4di Před 3 dny +1

    The problem is the Labour Party’s inability or refusal to make the argument for growth based on borrowing.
    Nobody ever stands up and makes it clear that the economy is nothing like a household budget. They never point out that even Thatcher knew her economic policy was wrong and rolled back on e.g. monetary policy. They never explain how the NHS etc was initially funded or that Japan has debt of 200% is GDP. Those on the left who should care about making ppls lives better need to be saying these things out loud at the same time as giving hope by telling ppl that things really can change.
    They need to explain that inward private investment comes from public investment and building a happy successful society; that all the millionaires won’t leave if the country is a generally good place to live, that other countries with less wealth inequality get higher investment because they have better wellbeing scores.
    The left needs to have the balls to make the argument in ways that everybody can understand. They need to do so with feeling and hope and back it up with facts that appeal to ordinary ppl. The Attley example is a very good one. They should use it.

  • @glennewton7034
    @glennewton7034 Před 6 dny +2

    I think one of the biggest problems with UK politics is that aside from elections, we don’t get to decide who is our prime minister. No one voted for our last three prime ministers.

    • @patcampton7163
      @patcampton7163 Před 5 dny

      They did in their constituencies. We don't have the US system.

  • @josephineh6154
    @josephineh6154 Před 8 dny +2

    Another great interview by the GOAT Mr Dugmore ❤

  • @sevilkurdoglu3944
    @sevilkurdoglu3944 Před 7 dny +2

    Makes you angry and sad at the same time.

  • @thetechnician832
    @thetechnician832 Před 2 dny

    Our form of Torie Govt in NZ, National has slashed across the board social and public services. YET have borrowed 12billion for tax cuts and 3billion for landlord tax relief. What's happening in aUK is happening here. Depressing.

  • @matsui90
    @matsui90 Před 7 dny +3

    This should have been a longer interview!

  • @shinydarknight01
    @shinydarknight01 Před 8 dny +6

    I hope there isn't going to be more austerity after more than a decade of it there's going to be riots in the streets. Our country is totally broken because of it

    • @pocolol8424
      @pocolol8424 Před 8 dny +8

      Austerity has become the norm just like neoliberalism has been the norm for the last 45 years.

    • @matthewv4170
      @matthewv4170 Před 8 dny

      This country will be broken by immigration

    • @claudiafigueiredo4979
      @claudiafigueiredo4979 Před 7 dny

      No riots uk is used live with little and will keep going to and we will keep working like slaves and taxed for nothing

  • @theresasanders8251
    @theresasanders8251 Před 7 dny +3

    The FASCIST Oligarchs started Austerity in America, which is now a SHAMBLES & as Sovereign Monetary Nations, our ONLY spending Constraints are Real Resources & Productive Labor Capacity. These are what BACK our Currency & different expenditures use varying amounts of Resources & Labor. If we INVEST in Training, we increase our Labor Capacity & USE very FEW Resources, the Finite Constraint, to do that! Read #TheDeficitMyth by Kelton, & #TheFederalJobGuarantee by Tcherneva!

  • @Danster82
    @Danster82 Před 7 dny +2

    The government needs to borrow money interest free, so zero cost financing. You cannot do this fully costed nonsense because it doesn't acknowledge the absurd debt based financial system which demands you must increase money supply or debts will default because all new money is created as a debt with interest attached and the interest payments do not exist in the economy until more money is borrowed(created) into the economy. But the government needs to start borrowing interest free, zero cost financing for all public spending, why does a private interest have the right to receive interest on newly created money?

  • @luvadealme
    @luvadealme Před 7 dny

    Great video, love to know who Andrew is intending to vote for!

  • @jonsmith5058
    @jonsmith5058 Před 7 dny +10

    Starmer is a Tory,
    Stop supporting him to get the Tories out, we will get more Tories under him.

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op Před 5 dny

      No, he isn't. He's a proud self-confessed radical Socialist, a Pabloist. Is everyone a simpleton on this channel?

    • @jonsmith5058
      @jonsmith5058 Před 5 dny

      @@VinnyCarwash-js8op he can call himself a self proclaimed unicorn.
      He’s defined by his actions, which are those of a Tory. His manifesto is barely different than the current Tories and basically a Cameron 2012 manifesto.
      You call people stupid yet you are the one believing the chronic liar Starmer (remember not only did he lie on his broader pledges, he also lied and reduced the Democracy in his party, overruling local decisions to bar actual socialists).

  • @johnharvey1786
    @johnharvey1786 Před 8 dny +3

    The % increase in tax he compared to 2019 is not really giving a true picture. The Tax take has risen significantly since 2019 so the % being added is actually more than he indicated. Given the very high tax take at the moment, nearly the highest ever, and if the Labour Party had raised taxes like this over the last 5 years there would have been uproar from the Conservatives. However as the Conservatives have raised tax so much already there is more money available than there was in 2019, so it is more about how it is distributed hopefully giving the incoming Government sufficient to work with, especially if they can stimulate growth.

  • @Alski96
    @Alski96 Před 7 dny +2

    Dont understand this "we are not going to borrow" approach. The UK government average borrowing per month is circa £20B, of which £8.5B is to cover debt interest. Every month. The books haven't balanced one month...this century.
    Please don't appease this nonsense by going with the "we won't borrow" narrative
    They will borrow. Proof: visit ONS on 21st August to see borrowing for July 2024, borrowing will be £20B, debt interest will be £8.5B

  • @TurielD
    @TurielD Před 7 dny +1

    There is a money supply. If the richest have more money now, they either got it from poorer people, or from bank loans... Neither is good.

  • @advocate1563
    @advocate1563 Před 6 dny

    I do hope so.

  • @tomh5094
    @tomh5094 Před 8 dny +1

    The Conservatives promise things that they're don't deliver regularly, why shouldn't Labour? With how short the memory of today's voters, they can say what they like nearly and people will forget.

  • @tropics8407
    @tropics8407 Před 2 dny

    A sensible and reality discussion by Politics Joe….

  • @alanbranfield614
    @alanbranfield614 Před 3 dny

    Growth haven't happened. Because weve closed manufacturing and we are basically a massive warehouse. Storing all manufacturing imports.

  • @onlyme1210
    @onlyme1210 Před 7 dny +2

    I'm a life long labour supporter now considering voting Green 💚

    • @ArtyFactual_Intelligence
      @ArtyFactual_Intelligence Před 7 dny +3

      Vote tactically.
      First we kick out the Tories; then we campaign for a more radical Labour shift.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Před 7 dny

      @@ArtyFactual_Intelligence You kick out the tories then labour's shitty policies undermines anything people associate with "left" and they go right again

    • @VinnyCarwash-js8op
      @VinnyCarwash-js8op Před 5 dny

      @@ArtyFactual_Intelligence You won't be campaigning for anything.

  • @DaveVespa
    @DaveVespa Před 6 dny

    Doing this as a % of national income isn't the right way of looking at it either. If the economy shrinks the population doesn't shrink too.

  • @gtijohn69
    @gtijohn69 Před 7 dny +1

    We need a goverment that will make the wealthy pay all the tax they owe, then there'd be no need for austerity!. Also stop people making a fortune from essential public services, and re-nationalise all of them.

  • @jazztec4255
    @jazztec4255 Před 7 dny +1

    Lol I feel like oli went quiet when he said about people's family's wealth increasing. Dudes family is looooaded.

  • @ricomitch8408
    @ricomitch8408 Před 4 dny

    Why does he keep grunting throughout the video😂

  • @SirWhig-esq.
    @SirWhig-esq. Před 8 dny +3

    Orgreave Inquiry, is possibly on the table 🎉

    • @blue47er
      @blue47er Před 8 dny +1

      You wish! It won't happen under Starmer.

    • @razorednight
      @razorednight Před 8 dny

      There are a lot of things on the table that won't happen. Labour is big on lying. It's the one thing they're good at - being crap.

    • @PortilloMoment
      @PortilloMoment Před 6 dny +1

      @@blue47er Anything that reflects poorly on the police will be avoided, lest it be associated with the DPP position by the media.

  • @superspecky4eyes
    @superspecky4eyes Před 7 dny

    I really have no idea who to vote for this election. All parties have maybe one policy I like, they all have loads I hate. It really feels like a "Sophie's Choice" situation at the moment.

  • @al9709
    @al9709 Před 4 dny

    When governments waste money they divert it from productive uses where it could create growth. In this way governments high spending can slow growth.

  • @pipoo1
    @pipoo1 Před 6 dny

    It’s sadly inevitable a decade of flatline growth and a Government debt crisis in Autumn 2022, have left almost no room for the incoming Government to do otherwise. The fiscal headroom and tax cuts the Tories have talked about is literally the space between current borrowing plans and another debt crisis. But it doesn’t have to be the way things are now, the NHS was born during the austerity of the post WW2 era, the post war Government invested massively on regeneration of the economy and bombed cities and that set the path for the massive transformation in living standards in the post WW2 era, all while we were still in the post was austerity period. That’s the difference between what Starmer and Reeves are taking about when the discuss a razor focus on growth because ultimately that’s what gets us out of the Tory economic death spiral.

  • @beardedjb2273
    @beardedjb2273 Před 5 dny +1

    On the "wait until we're in office to open the books"
    Im hoping, and i know its a false hope, that this is a strategy that Labour are employeing to 'not rock the boat' for the election. They will win, and by a massive majority. When they win, rhey know thints will have to change so they can use the "the books are cooked - we need change" angle to do aome interesting things in government.
    Maybe.....

    • @jzilla1234
      @jzilla1234 Před 4 dny

      Wishful thinking. Keir and his labour are Tories

  • @moonipad4514
    @moonipad4514 Před 2 dny

    I bet you ... London to a brick...Mrs Starmer won't be measure ING for curtains at number 10

  • @goonerboz6023
    @goonerboz6023 Před 7 dny +1

    Workers party gb has got to be my vote

  • @badnick6659
    @badnick6659 Před 3 dny

    Maybe, but at least the theivery will be curtailed under intense scrutiny.😮

  • @justsomegeezer69
    @justsomegeezer69 Před 7 dny +2

    How is that man 45 years old?

  • @jacquelinemcmenamin8204

    Health and social care has been destroyed by successive governments ( going back to Thatcher and including Blair). More and more disabled and elderly have to rely on neighbours, friends and family. That has a knock on effect of family members having to give up work to care for a sick/ disabled family member. That’s usually a female member of the workforce. Leads to even more poverty and inequality.

  • @TheSiban
    @TheSiban Před 7 dny

    Large portion of major expenses come from land regulations causing high costs and less houses built and expensive infrastructure that has a knock of effect on: portion of peoples wages after living costs, high street pricing out most people to set up a business (many empty shops in high value areas), NHS from elderly getting ill more from close contact with others and not having the extra money to properly look after themselves,

  • @steven280
    @steven280 Před 2 dny

    Labour are well aware of the reason they are going to win. It's not through popular support, it's through popular hatred of the Tories. The reason Labour aren't promising anything is because they don't want to screw up there undeserved popularity.
    They will coast for the next parliament doing very little to improve anything, but equally trying to stay so mundane that the public don't get pissed at them. If they succeed you'll see another watered down, we promise nothing manifesto next term. If they screw things then you'll see the radical manifesto in an attempt eek out at least another term.
    It's a race to the bottom with British politics.

  • @jwelsh84
    @jwelsh84 Před 6 dny

    Boat shoes and no socks, massive loss of respect

  • @boggisthecat
    @boggisthecat Před 5 dny

    @27:50 - Way ahead of you there. 😺

  • @dcphillips1991
    @dcphillips1991 Před 2 dny

    I'm not sure I agree that vat is a regressive tax, maybe the way in which we have it set up is regressive and it could be better focused, but it's absolutely necessary to catch money that is taxed through other means/or faces much lower rates in the economy.

  • @al9709
    @al9709 Před 4 dny

    Governments should not be flush with cash. They should be screaming for money for great verifiable reasons and competing internally for the best use. Otherwise they become flipent and wasteful like today. Tax take should be around 10%-20% national output max as per other more successful countries.

    • @StrikeBolteafc
      @StrikeBolteafc Před 3 dny

      ? Most successful countries have higher taxes than the uk, France have 58% Germany have 40 something %, the uk is only 30 something %

  • @lonelyone69
    @lonelyone69 Před 12 hodinami

    Austerity would've worked if it was actually done. Austerity would've led to much higher strength during covid and a much faster bounce back. However the tories didn't do austerity they cut public services and then used debt to pay for them. Austerity is reducing public services to reinvest into domestic production. Austerity paid for tax cuts not reinvestment.

  • @keithparker6520
    @keithparker6520 Před 16 hodinami

    Nothing wrong with the 2019 manifesto, it was external factors that scuppered it.

  • @suegrabbitandrun
    @suegrabbitandrun Před dnem

    unless they get growth .....or unless they begin to address inequality in income distribution and bring it back-via effective taxation- to 1970's levels

  • @Jimmy40k
    @Jimmy40k Před 7 dny

    Austerity is so bad Ollie can't buy socks...

  • @Tom_murray89
    @Tom_murray89 Před 7 dny

    In order to get people with disabilities into work they need to bring back access to work which the tories have scrapped

  • @baltukur3368
    @baltukur3368 Před 8 dny +6

    their wont be a change in labour they will carry on with the same Tories policies

  • @MontyCantsin5
    @MontyCantsin5 Před 8 dny +4

    Very insightful interview but as other people have already commented, please ditch the intro sequence. We don't need to see the same section of a conversation twice.

  • @AdamBowley-yb3kd
    @AdamBowley-yb3kd Před 5 dny

    This is the trouble people like this don’t even tell the truth or contextualise things. For example The rich still have the biggest burden of taxes in totally. The poor are paying a fairer share but are effected by indirect taxes more. Wealth has increased for everyone. But the bottom 20% there income is a greater share of there wealth then asserts. The top 10% assets are by far the biggest share of wealth and is split domestically and globally. Majoirty if the wealth increase in the top are assets not income. The biggest squeeze for the bottom 20% is income and the fact it doesn’t go as far as it use to.

  • @tomtom-gi9eo
    @tomtom-gi9eo Před 8 dny

    Labour's plan is to get elected for ONE term... Then the PR team will push "well give them a chance".

  • @baltukur3368
    @baltukur3368 Před 8 dny +2

    yes you are absolutely right

  • @OgreMan-cg6ok
    @OgreMan-cg6ok Před 8 dny +3

    This is really good but I Have to ask! Is this going to reach the 'sheep's who need to know?

    • @keithparker1346
      @keithparker1346 Před 7 dny

      The general public are about 6 to 12 months behind the curve...expect 2025 to be interesting

  • @larrygerry985
    @larrygerry985 Před 8 dny +15

    Keir starmer will be the best Tory PM this century

    • @ArtyFactual_Intelligence
      @ArtyFactual_Intelligence Před 7 dny

      Wait and See. You can always choose a party of Permanent Protest and shout from the sidelines.

  • @bartz3245
    @bartz3245 Před 7 dny

    So it's double austerity? Triple austerity? 100% tax?

  • @kerrynewnham8946
    @kerrynewnham8946 Před 7 dny

    I think it should be demanded that Keir Starmer Labour Party releases plans based on good growth, some slow growth and no growth, rather than just saying oh we just have these few steps that we have to cost and everything else can be magically sorted out by growth. I want to know what they plan to do in each of those three possible scenarios .

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Před 7 dny

      You'd never do that it's a suicide mission. Why would you make a plan for something you don't intend to do. It makes you look inept because your planning for failure.

    • @kerrynewnham8946
      @kerrynewnham8946 Před 7 dny

      @@HA05GER no one except The Labour Party believes they can guarantee growth. The Labour Party in the Michelle Hussain interview would neither give a clear picture of what they would do if they achieved the growth they claim they can make, eg around child benefits caps, nor would it consider the possibility that they won’t get much growth next couple of years so what about the baked in cuts. Any party can now just pencil in a few short term commitments and some broad ideas and then say the rest is unspecified because we are hoping for growth but do not know the budget.

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Před 7 dny

      @@kerrynewnham8946 no I totally understand your point but like I say it's political suicide.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 Před 5 dny

      Anyone saying growth is the solution is protecting elite economic interests. It’s a lie steeped in class interests.

  • @jrr3613
    @jrr3613 Před 7 dny

    Let’s tax the government

  • @ohk749
    @ohk749 Před 6 dny

    Reform said they would take back control of interest rates, lower vat, and increase the tax threshold to 20k. All three of those thing would mean I could eat more than one meal a day. Labour and Tories offer increased inequality though policy.

    • @silvafox7719
      @silvafox7719 Před 6 dny +1

      Reform would leave you worse off. They will keep taxes low for corporations and billionaires, while giving tax allowances for private medical contractors, which are the very thing destroying the NHS. Frank Hester for example has over £400M in contracts with the NHS, they want profit not health outcomes.
      The tax allowance for workers under £20K is a good idea, but impossible to implement without massive cuts to public services, which they will then say don't work and need to be privatised. The 'social contract' Farage has come up with is pure fantasy, it's not economically viable. He has done ti as it sounds good and will encourage some voters, and because he knows he will never have to dleiver it, as he won't be in power. Don't be hoodwinked into Farage's con. (Check the IFS on the Reform manifesto)
      Alos I'm not a fan of net zero, but to scrap it completely would be insane. The world is crumbling around us, we need to address it.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 Před 5 dny

      Reform are lying. Reform from the right is not good for the ordinary person. Reform from the right = reform to benefit the minority class by removing democratic constraint and accountability. Think tories in a dictatorship.

  • @5minuterevolutionary493

    I can't watch this anymore, the host thinks what happened in 2019 is hilarious.

  • @Westlake72
    @Westlake72 Před 8 dny +5

    30:18 Are normal people really going to be up in arms if Labour makes the ultra rich pay more tax because it was not in its manifesto???

    • @seanc411
      @seanc411 Před 8 dny +2

      The billionaires who jumped on board before the manifesto would, doesn’t bother me but not sure Starmer is bold enough.

    • @scooble
      @scooble Před 7 dny

      I'm sure the right wing media will whip their base into a frenzy

    • @HA05GER
      @HA05GER Před 7 dny

      No the majority of us don't care but Tories like to make out taxing the rich as taxing the middle class, the above average wage people. If you own one home a good wage and a nice car it isn't going to.affect you. If you have 20 houses and a multimillion pound income then yes. It is only 0.1% that exceed 500k. These are the people that would be affected. Let's say even if we lumped a percent or 2 on there tax they will hardly notice it. Even the little man wouldn't notice it. It's a trivial amount which could change our country.

    • @PortilloMoment
      @PortilloMoment Před 6 dny

      @@seanc411 The Labour party is certainly no longer rich enough. That horse bolted with Starmer's purge of the left and the subsequent leaving of scores of thousands of subs.

  • @marumaru6084
    @marumaru6084 Před 7 dny

    Will they cut the waste in the civil service DEI etc no!

  • @captainwin6333
    @captainwin6333 Před 7 dny +3

    Labour are not a permanent solution to the tories. England doesn't have a permanent solution to the tories.
    Scotland does and it's called independence.

  • @grobknoblin5402
    @grobknoblin5402 Před 5 dny

    get reform in that will do it

  • @Harrier_DuBois
    @Harrier_DuBois Před 8 dny +7

    Vote Green

  • @BMC-hl2uh
    @BMC-hl2uh Před 8 dny +1

    Can you please bring on someone to explain mmt.

  • @jamesannetts4449
    @jamesannetts4449 Před 8 dny +3

    Great fella

  • @blairarcher8952
    @blairarcher8952 Před 8 dny +9

    The main two are Neoliberal. Forget left or right think economic model .Support the markets at all cost .

    • @damienx0x
      @damienx0x Před 8 dny

      Labour does not support the markets at all costs.

  • @DG_musician
    @DG_musician Před 7 dny

    Labour are going to fail miserably. But in a few years I'm sure there will plenty of comfortable middle income centrists doing their best "This is fine" meme impression while the rest of us face continued hardship and a France-like rise of the hard right.

  • @LimeyRedneck
    @LimeyRedneck Před 8 dny +1

    🤠❤️💚

  • @UploadsAndStuff
    @UploadsAndStuff Před 8 dny +1

    'You can download the books '. That's a crap point. I'm guessing but I imagine the argument is more about what resources being in government provides for looking at those books and making a decision.

  • @Phil_D_Waller
    @Phil_D_Waller Před 7 dny

    it could be 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 trillion pounds
    The uk govt isnt constrained by £s
    Simply look at what you want to do and are there the real resources to achieve it ?
    Real reources are the constraint , not £s FFS!

  • @nUmBskulLL
    @nUmBskulLL Před 7 dny

    Well yes.
    Bar printing money or raising taxes (which they can't do or they will lose votes) how else do you balance the books if you're spending more than you are taking in?
    Too much politics lives in the theoretically world.

    • @00Platypus00
      @00Platypus00 Před 7 dny

      How would they lose votes by taxing 0.1% of the richest...?

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 Před 5 dny

      A government doesn’t balance books via austerity.

  • @henryahern6866
    @henryahern6866 Před 8 dny +4

    Can you make the minute long trap intro shorter please 🙏

    • @Glasgow_kiss
      @Glasgow_kiss Před 8 dny +2

      more people should comment that until they listen.

  • @GrahamFearnley
    @GrahamFearnley Před 6 dny

    We ve never come out of it since it was introduced in 2010 you div

  • @PurushaDesa
    @PurushaDesa Před 8 dny +4

    The mistake Andrew made was writing a manifesto to help people instead of salesy, PPE-speak bullshit.

  • @Automat2
    @Automat2 Před 7 dny

    But Lab is going to be funded by multi-millionaires! that should be OK!