New 2023 Ford Lightning Initial Quality Report: Heading to The Dealership for Repairs Already!
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this video we talk about a few issues my new 2023 Ford Lightning is having already.
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Ford quality is laughable these days, while their pricing is mafia levels.
Many manufactures fit that category :)
"You're gonna HATE the quality...FORD!! Quality AIN'T Job One!"
@@markh.6687 Quality is Job None!
@@truthserum5310 That works also!
@@markh.6687 Over my lifetime I've had 6 Fords. I haven't much problem with any of them. I've had 3 GM products and 1 Chrysler product. No issues either. I don't own a "new vehicle" either. Mine are 25 years old and 13 years old, both are Fords (Crown Victoria) and both have been awesome vehicles. New vehicles... many of them are simply overpriced garbage cans on wheels. Too much electonic/gimmick crap in them that causes major headaches, low quality on the rest of the build and the situation is what it is now. People want all these gizmo's in their vehicles and want more and more. They pay for this crap and accept it. Want the manufacturers to change their course? Stop buying their junk.
There's nothing like giving a really good mechanic a new ride and just watching him absolutely pick it apart within a month. Pointing out EVERYTHING wrong with the truck 😂😂😂😂 great job.
Toyota would gladly pay someone of his caliber to QC vehicles at the end of the assembly line. UAW would never allow that.
Why can attest that it's not the Auto workers fault for shity components like a thudding frunk or a weatherstrip that isn't designed to fit like it's supposed to... All of the problems with Ford motor company right now is just ship it outside and we'll fix it later!
@@davidlopez1469Knew a Mercedes dealership mechanic here in CA that was told just ship it during PDIs. The SUVs made in the south were so full of assembly problems decision was made to wait until customer complained.
There is a CZcamsr who is a detailer who got a Mustang Dark Horse in the shop for detail. What he found in just the paint and trim is so disappointing.
Good luck getting those things fixed ya they will replace the parts but will it fix it I hope the new door panel comes in the right color ya I have 50 years in GM parts sure the parts guys order the parts but does the right parts come in has you know we use the vin number to order parts I could go on so again good luck
The dealer is going to say, “The mechanic tried it/took it for a test drive and couldn’t replicate your complaint. Everything works perfectly.” 😂
I already warned them I don't want it back until it is fixed.
I remember thinking that and the my transfer case died in the parking lot. Thankfully under warranty!
Brain can fix this stuff better than the dealer
Exactly what my Ford dealer told me last month when I took the truck in for popping/loose feeling in the steering. They said two mechanics found no issues. I took it home and crawled under the truck myself while my son turned the steering back and forth and the drag link was obviously worn out and moving up/down in the joint. Sigh....
Hope it’s not the dealerships in the Joliet/Plainfield area. Never had a good experience with any of them. Always drove down to Rub Ford in Gardner.
90 thousand , insane
That's TWO times the price of my first home.
Let Ford eat their lunch on these lemons!
Apparently they are losing like 30K each EV they produce
They are down 3.1BIL already
Not good
Got and email from ford 3/1/24
Lighting $15k off
Plus $7500 in accessories
Plus $7500 gov tax break.
After 40 years I am done with Ford.
2016 blend door actuator failure at 20k, a/c compressor siezed at 40k, driver side roof molding flew off on the freeway at 50k.
A/C on my 1986 SVO still works.
Brother's 2003 Tacoma with 250k is still like new.
2016 as well. 4WD actuator replaced at 12K, multi-function switch took a dump at 16K, starter at 30K, 3 of the 4 wheel bearings needed replacing by 55K miles, back up camera has never worked correctly from the get go...I could go on.
and as we speak people that work on the ford assembly line want more money and a 4 day work week when they already get more than autos being built better in asian country's .I see the end for them in our life time
Wow thats not suppose to happen until 60,001 miles.
@@panderson9561
What junk
Like most in the manufacturing genre, the responsibility for quality control has been transferred to the customer.
I had a GMC dealer straight up tell me they don't do the PDI's, and just pocket the money. The customer satisfaction surveys I sent in after getting warranty repairs just about put that dealer out of business. Duramax that was 4 quarts low on tranny fluid, and a half ton that was puking gear oil out the front diff due to the axle/tube/seals being damaged by a MISSING inner bearing. Good quality control right there.
Like you buy, you Fry 😂😂
I would almost accept this if they resolved the issues owners make mention of...he may get satisfaction but others maybe not so much. I understand it's a numbers game for them and what I suggested could work yet they still give normal consumers a rough ride post purchase...maybe leasing is the answer but that would certainly bring residual value down...IMO
One of the things I like about Brian is he is not a Ford Fanboy he is able to say it like it is he may like the brand but he also is able to critique the things that are not good and other that are great I do the same on the brands of car that work of for my business nothing is perfect. but manufactures must learn from there mistakes.
Yeah I agree. Every brand puts out turds at some point, although few have the balls to charge $90,000 for them
It’s amazing to me how chintzy looking that truck is for 90K !!!
As far as I’m concerned they can keep it. I’ve been loyal to Ford all my life but here’s where I say no way….😮
We have a base xl 4dr and I think it’s quite nice , not 90k nice
@@peterad1529
If you don’t mind me asking, how much was the base model ?
@@nonhatespeechBe careful with prices dealers give you. Very few people know this, but Ford/Lincoln dealers now have the ability to print window stickers right at the dealership. On Fords website, they list the base prices on all of their vehicles.
If you want to check to see if they are being honest, look at the base price from the dealer, and compare it with Fords actual base prices.
They are a $120k in Canada 😮
you cant be loyal to anyone any more. I suggest that you keep an older vehicle even if you have to rebuild the motor and tranny you still come out on top over buying a new vehicle.
I’ve always loved my 4.6. The problems in this video make me love it more 😅
Same here
Man when one of your video come out, I hurry up and click on them. Thanks again for another great video.
I would like to thank you for all your hard work on making videos 😊
I have a 2007 mustang gt successfully installed timing, chains, and new rollers lifters cams because of all of your experience. Thank you for making me look good.
You’re a great mechanic videographer
And Contant creator
Thank you 👍🤘
Great summary of the issues you noticed. I have read reports of quality issues but you did a great job breaking it down. Looking forward to your next video
If anyone is thinking about buying an F150, I would highly recommend you look at the base F250 with the gas engine as well. It has a regular push rod motor paired with the 6 speed trans (Not the 10 speed). The last few I saw come through the dealer I work for all had window stickers for under 40k. Yes, you'll pay more in gas, but I would take that any day over a bunch of complicated systems on the 150. Also, base models aren't that base anymore. You'll still get AC, power windows, something more than an AM radio, etc... Its a very underrated vehicle.
I concur
@@scotsman8284my 2020 250 has been great. Only problem was the backup cam which they replaced under recall
Agree 100%. I'd stick with that.
This 100%
@@MRTEE-sy7sb Hope that put that engine in F 150.....loved the pushrod..set up..
I recently had my 2017 Ford Expedition (great vehicle) in for a rear camera replacement. I asked the service Mgr what the worst Ford vehicles were from a reliability standpoint. He said the F150 Lightning with the electric 'mustang' a close second
It's all over the internet. They are both turds. Especially what they are charging for them.
Hey Brian, great overview on the little issues you've seen. I'm in the exact same boat as you, the quality on my 21 F150 was solid and no issues, as soon as I got my 23, lots of little things all over here and there, oh and not to mention a turbo already locked up at 1500 miles... but got that sorted already thanks to my dealer and they were as stumped as I was trying to diagnose it. On the window noise flapping issue in particular, since of course my new one has the same issue, it is the exterior weather stripping on the on the rear of the front windows. Go look and see how much it moves in and out when the window is up, even blow so air at it and you can make it hum. I resolved mine in the meantime with some foam in the channel to tighten it up, but the main issue is something with the exterior B pillar trim piece, to bows out too much now which then doesn't push the weatherstripping against the window enough. Funny enough, I wandered around the dealer lot and seems every 22+ model has the same issue, everyting 21 and older was nice and tight.
It's really disappointing to see the quality challenges Ford is having. I'm sure they knew about some of these in development but it seems their quest to cut cost took priority over getting it right. I've been nothing but a loyal Ford owner my entire life (driving since '92) and hope to remain so in the future. Currently own a '14 F-150 Screw FX4 3.5 Eco which has over 200K and has been the best vehicle I've ever owned. It has needed nothing except tires, brakes and maintenance. We also have a '20 Explorer ST which has 60K and is the worst vehicle I've ever owned. It has every quality problem in the book - broken cats, noisy exhaust rattle, glitchy infotainment, failed backup camera, peeling window buttons, broken plastic trim. The vehicle has so much potential (400HP from a 3.0L is amazing) but I've come to hate driving it. The only reason I haven't gotten rid of it is that I don't know what I could get to replace it that wouldn't be as big (or worse) of a problem. I also have a '22 F-150 Screw Lariat 4x4 3.5 Eco for my company vehicle and it has been solid for almost 30K, although it does have some open recalls (wiper motor, headlamps) that I need to find time to get scheduled...
Not surprising in the least, I deliver parts to the plants, Ford Dearborn Assembly is one of them... I would not buy one. Any of these new cars, they are a mess of electronics and poor engineering. I would say most will be a nightmare after the warranty runs out, most folks will not be able to afford to repair them.
You still have the water leaks to look forward to. Since it looks like you're about out of warranty, I'll give you some info that may save you a lot of money. Anytime you do anything with the battery, the trim has to be installed perfectly. If you look at the bottom of the windshield, you'll see the trim doesn't overlap with the glass,
it butts up against the bottom of the windshield, and everything has to be perfectly flush. If not, water will get through the gap in the trim and run down the firewall. This normally wouldn't be a big deal, but Ford put the fresh air hole in the firewall for the hvac system directly under the piece of trim you remove to access the battery. Again, that wouldn't be too big of a deal if they did something to channel the water. They didn't. When you remove the battery, you get a nice clear view of the carpet on the RF floor. Before you know it, you'll have 3-6 inches of water in the car. We call it the swimming pool option. If it was my vehicle, I would just make something simple up to channel the water from going inn the hole. If you go to home depot you can get the metal tape that you sometimes use on roof's. (For a house). You can make something up with just that tape and you'll be OK. Ford has already approved its use for similar issues on the F150's firewall.
You also need to keep an eye on your roof. For your vehicle, they came up with a new design for the roof rails. Instead of doing like they always do and put everything you need to deal with the roof rails on top of the car, instead they drilled 6 holes through the roof, on both sides of the car, and bolted the rails on from the bottom up. Again, not a very smart thing to do, but it wouldn't be such a big deal if they bothered to seal the holes. They put this little, tiny wisp of paper thin foam that's used to protect the paint from getting scratched, and thought that was good enough. The only way to access these bolts is to drop the headliner. Just keep checking it on a regular basis to make sure its not wet. They're expensive and a lot of labor is involved to replace them. If you catch it early, it can be saved.
I don't like to tell people what to do, but in my opinion as a Ford tech, extended warranty is mandatory. I do a lot of heavy line/expensive warranty jobs, and if you can't afford to self insure, the extended warranty saves peoples asses on big repairs. I see it every day. I'm sure I just made your afternoon.
@@AT-wl9yqI do not own a Ford product, I drive an older 2003 Buick by choice after my 2018 Silverado experience. Thank you for this information, as I never know who I may run across that owns one of these particular vehicles.
The quality is the workers who let shit go knowing it's messed up. But give them raises for poor work.
@@michaelwright1602Sorry if I wasn't clear. The person who started this thread states that he actually has a new Explorer. That's why I made my post so detailed.
But that anti-ting washers would have added another 20-cents to the cost!
How will their CEO make it on $10 million a year?? :)
Who does not study history is doomed to repeat it. But 10 years should not be history. Nevertheless lessons learned. have been forgotten.
The frunk being held down by two tiny self tappers into fiberglass suggests that it could just rip open in the wind going down the road and blind you.
I spotted that, too. Ridiculous.
Interesting observation indeed, I wonder if they do have some sort of metal plate behind that fiber glass.
I assume there’s some kind of secondary safety catch.
Was thinking the same thing
Nice catch on the self tappers into the fiberglass .. I'm not sure where you're from but where i live in the Coastal New England area we are now headed into gale force winds season from mid September to March just one 50-60 mph wind gust would have rip that hood open like a cheep beer can to me that is Very Poor QC .. plus There is already a Recall on the battery"s Why FIRE HAZARD if i was Brian i take that Truck park it far away as he can and charge the battery"s BTW all All the EV are having the same problem with Very Poor QC with Battery"s and other issues
Thank you so much man! You’ve saved me a lot of $$$$. You’re videos are great. 98 f150 rcsb 4x4 with the 2valve 4.6
My '23 F150 has the same wind flapping noise at the drivers side window and it DRIVES ME CRAZY! There is also a flapping noise when the sunroof is open and driving over 45mph. Your description is spot on ... I was worried that some sort of insulation piece was loose in the actual door pillar.
I was finished with Ford when my explore 4 L engine decided to self destruct due to cheaply made timing chain components and all I could do was scrap a perfectly good vehicle otherwise. I am a mechanic by trade and could have fixed this motor if it had a decent design but since it had a timing chain on the back of the right cylinder head the complete motor had to be removed from the car to access the timing chain components and there’s no timing chain marks on this motor so you have to purchase all the special tools to align the camshaft and crankshaft. When you are doing mechanic work you have to pick your battles wisely and this is one I knew I couldn’t win
Must have been built before 2004?
This issue actually made alot of old timers retire early.
@@YooTooobJeff It actually was a 2008 Ford explore 4 L which had this engine design
90 grand lol no thanks.
Great video. These issues resonate differently coming from you than random people pointing out single issues alone.
All these videos really make me appreciate my 2010 Toyota Prius that I have put over 170,000 miles on and never done anything more than change the oil, tires, and other routine maintenance.
This is literally like a cellphone now. You don't drive it in for service, you drive it in for a software update.
That was a good shot of those $5,600.00 taillights. I have had Linex in my truck bed for 18 years and never had an issue. I know people that have had the Ford spray-in bed liner and had peeling issues. Great video!
I'll see how mine holds up, 2020 250. Tons of gravel and shovels. So far so good
My 2021 f150 tailgate liner was peeling , dealer reluctantly had it redone by a local shop .
I have a 21 f150 xlt 302a package and I literally have had ford send me 6 recall notices in the mail in the last year. I guess sence it's the first year of the redesign they have to work the bugs out of it. Love the truck but it has so many glitches with the electronics it's unreal ! They have way to many electronics nowadays. The xlt trucks nowadays have more technology and options then a platinum f150 from 10 years ago. Enjoy watching your channel !
Not surprised about the little quality issues with the truck, but i am surprised about the software update for balancing the cells on the battery better, i mean thats just common sense why would they not build that into the software from the get go? I really wish all of these EVs would stopped being rushed to market all the time
Thx for taking one for the team. I won’t be ever buying one of these.
I was looking forward to your evaluations.
Ty
Thanks for sharing!
Smart man to lease vehicles when you're "stuck on" a vehicle that will certainly produce a lot of headaches before warranty expires or payments (purchase) are complete!
Good video! I can see a few "could not duplicate" comments coming on the service writers report. Those lightnings are cool in theory for light use like you are using it for but like you said for a work truck that tows and hauls the technology is just not there yet.
I own a Powerboost F150 '23, love it....except the Grill shutters broke already (had to fight to get it covered!) and the Sunroof blew up and out (lost that fight to get it covered...the warranty people told me to f off, even though it's definitely Ford's problem since it blew up and out from the inside, and maintained that up/out shape as well). So yeah, their quality is in question for sure.
You love your Powerboost even after Ford didn't cover the cost of a replacement panoramic sunroof? Lol. You must really, really love your Powerboost. Come on, tell us the whole pan roof story......
Good job!! I c u guys r spending a little of all that Timing Chains and Phaser money your making. Did Junior get rid of the Mustang Alpha Rocket? What a fantastic looking shop u have built from the ground up!! Love all the vids. Thank u and your son for all the hard work!!
Yup he ditched the Mustang for a Durango SRT.
A $30k entry-level quality truck they charge $90k for. And it still won't work when it gets below -25F up here in North Dakota and western MN every winter. Thanks for keeping me entrenched in my 5.0L '13 F-150 CrewCab - 125k miles and not jack for problems.
Yes I’m keeping my 2013 F150 4X4 XL 5.0 as well
No power options at all, less things to break
Only have cruise and air plus a 8 foot box which isn’t available in the lightning
Also the Pro version isn’t available on Vancouver Island British Columbia Canada either
To much money for all New vehicles right now
A lot of older ICE won’t even start at those temps. My older Benz diesel wouldn’t even start around 0F.
@@sbramel93 An ICE won't lose half or more of its capacity when cold like a battery will.
As long as consumers keep paying all that money for these trash vehicles, the manufacturers will gladly keep producing them as fast as they can. The manufacturers are making incredible profits on this crap.
My Hyundai Accent is built better
The only complaint for me would be the weather strip everything else was irrelevant unless the battery needed replacement! I’ll be honest I would be afraid to park one in my garage and burn my house down!
I also thought that wasn't bad. Compared to similar videos of other manufacturers, these are very minor in nature to some being suspect buyer issue. Look up Rivian quality issues and if you do Tesla, you're lucky if its not raining in your car weatherstripping, not, a little flapping if you are going 90 miles an hour with the window at a specific height. Sorry, I don't buy the paint chip and dent in the door blame. When ever I buy a new vehicle, I do a thorough viewing before taking it off the lot. If you want to blame the manufacture and dealer for missing it, then I put ten times more blame on the buyer for missing it because all you have is one car to inspect. The rock chip in the bumper could have easily happened while leaving the dealership. Ford will do the right thing and fix it anyways but to make a video about it as a quality issue just sounds like childish whining to me.
Then you need to stop parking any ICE car you own indoors.
@@danharold3087 I have literally never heard of an ICE car/truck spontaneously bursting into flames hot enough to melt concrete. Never. ICE's catch fire while running and you are in them, not in your garage while you're sleeping.
@@livens100 I don't know that anyone is saying that EV battery fires are not hotter than EV fires which peak at about 800C. . At 600°C, concrete can lose half of its strength. Above 800°C, concrete can lose up to 80% of its strength. Car fires can and do ruin concrete structures. 60% of car fires are electrical.
The EV fire reputation have been primarily ruined by EG chem who made the cells in the Chevy Bolt.
8 hours ago - South Korea's LG Chem said it has come up with a new battery cover material that can withstand a flame burning at 2732 degrees Fahrenheit
Go figure....
Tesla uses a few different metals to shield the battery. Ballistic-grade aluminum and titanium are mentioned.
@@livens100 Yeah, you need to look up some recent Hyundai/Kia recalls. An ICE car can definitely catch fire when off due to other factors.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Hello from Chicago! Excellent video! Very interesting points for something that costs $90k.
90k,woah.
I just LOVE Fords and there quality!
Ha ha ha
The solid state batteries will be well liked. Good tour!
All of this makes me appreciate my 2018 Ecoboost. All we have had replaced was cam phasers, and I knew that would happen. "ML3Z" phasers in it now.
interested in how they fix the noise when the window is rolled down as my Edge is horrible about that !
Best FORD content on youtube!
Mak what I love is because of your experience and qualifications they will not be able to blow smoke ... well you know were! Just curious ... when they pick it up will it be trailered or will they drive to and from the dealership? Also was you offered a rental vehicle while it is being serviced?
Congratulations
My 21 Limited Powerboost had a bunch of small quality problems. One of them that really drove me crazy was there was a big blob of seam sealer that made it onto the cab between the back glass and the opening of the rear window and Ford just painted over it. Also, there were spots on the driver side, rear door and front door that were missing color and they just simply clearcoated over it. They found the problem later and just put touch of paint over it. Then there was the rear door panel that scraped the weather seal damaging it every time you opened the door. The twin panel roof had a gasket between the roof and the sunroof that was folded inside creating an ugly aesthetic. I suspected they’d have to remove the roof in order to pull the gasket out and put it back into place. And of course there was all the recalls that came with the truck. I decided to sell it and thankfully due to the crazy high market I made about $4200 on it. I bought a Chevy truck last December and it has none of these problems. Ford has tons of issues and I won’t purchase another one until they fix their quality issues. I have a 2010 Fusion Sport that I bought from a friend that has 273,000 miles on it and it works great.
I'm sorry to say but u may see some stupid problems with the chevy lol definitely the dead battery during updates still going on and issues with back up cam and now it's all ecotech 4 cylinders , keep up maintenance on pvc and you be fine
I really wanted a Lightning, but I wound up with a hybrid Lariat trim F150. The problem is that a large part of what I want to do is towing, and when towing you need to stop like every 80 miles, 100 to 120 at absolute max. We're looking at long distance travel towing a camper and it's completely impractical for those purposes.
Good news is Fords quality will keep the shop in business for years to come.
This is why I'm keeping my 2021. Has more options and a better price than the newer truck's.
I am a Coyote man but I find the EV lightning interesting. Well said about it being a luxury vehicle and not a workhorse truck. This should have been a hybrid type design with a small 3 cylinder diesel or 1.6l gas engine running a generator to charge multiple banks of batteries at once. I don’t like the idea that this truck can not just go across country without major issues with planning of time to charge and finding suitable charging stations!!!
Exactly! The should have gone the hybrid route first.
Ummm… they have a hybrid?
Liberals no longer accept hybrids they are dedicated to removing the internal combustion engine entirely. Well, except in limos, airplanes, jet engines in jets, cargo ships, yachts, millions of boats, rocket engines in space x rockets, construction equipment, trains and motorsports racing. Other than that, they want to be carbon free in the next I'm not sure how long. They say we must do this in less than 6 years but that's already impossible. Al Gore said in 1999 we had 12 years to "fix this." So I have no idea but only motor vehicles are on the chopping block. Most of the other things don't even have pollution controls and that's AOK. But hybrids are not acceptable anymore. 7 states have already said it will be illegal to sell a new fuel powered vehicle starting in 2035. That would include hybrids.
I work on those new fords always and I also do spray-in bed liners. I’ve installed about 100 decked systems in the new fords. I have to take the front tie downs out to install the product. I have to cut around the tie down before pulling it out, if not, the Bedliner will pull a big chunk off, they’re not prepped like they should be.
So get it done aftermarket?
What about the bed tanneau covers? Do you recommend aftermarket too?
At 8:46 time on video it looks like your driver door top right white trim above the key code looks bent in or bowed out where the air you say is escaping. Lol maybe just looks bent on video. Best ford content on CZcams. Thank you.
I really nervous that a great mechanic like yourself is willing to turn the truck over to another mechanic. Lol. Seriously, great looking truck.
Thanks for getting the lightning & doing a review & keeping us updated over the two years for longevity. reliability the build quality leaves a lot to be desired. Makes a great mall crawler not a real work truck. FORD slogan use to be ford quality is job 1 😂
Your description of the door sound reminds me of a 2005 Lincoln Towncar I had awhile back.Closing the power trunk lid on that car sounded tinny and cheap not like other Lincolns Ive owned...That nick in the bumper and the one in the door panel doesnt bother you now but it may when the lease is up and the inspection sheet is filled out..
Problem with the factory bedliner is that they dont prep the paint before they apply it, thats why it dont stick very good. On the plus side you can peel the whole thing off in 10 minutes if you want to redo it properly
As a conveyor technician I work with splines a lot. I guarantee you that a spline with room to move will not last long. That anti-ting wash is the same type of BANDAID FIX I have used in the past wile waiting for parts. That is an absolute joke. Bet they are just hoping the 4wd won't be used that much.
I bet they will say, you batteries are fine (even if there not). EV's are supposed to be good for the environment, what are they going to so with the batteries when there done, haven't heard an answer yet, as if now other countries are storing them above ground and here not going to biodegrade .
Will these things even have a trade-in value over time? Seems they will depreciate by thousands yearly.
They haven't yet..
What new vehicle doesn't?
Electric doesn't work for most folks.
For me , depreciation is 100%/yr
battery tech will improve so these first gens are probably going to be similar to the early teslas
My 21 has had three recalls at 30 k now
1 : wiper blade
2 : rear axel retaining bolt sheared at factory, dealer replacement of both axles
3: electric park brake harness chafing repair.
It's a power boost and so far that's it .
Wish I would have bought a 21 Land Cruiser
The Land Cruiser would be good to go.
And there are about 12 modules that are in need of software updates that Ford is not required to tell you about curious run from these products
Oh Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 at 5 metric k oil changes and the plugs changed often she runs like a champ over serviced.
Everytime I miss being a Ford dealer tech, I'll just watch this video.
As a Ford technician you know that the nightmares we are going through with constant recalls make it less and less lucrative to be a technician
The Lightning has earned the #1 spot on several "Least reliable new vehicle" lists.
I wanted one a basic / base model . When I first saw the online price it was $39,000 plus a little I imagine. But then they upped the base model price to over $56,000 to $58,000. Well I was inline for one at the $39,000 but at $57,000 they can keep everyone they can make at those prices.
I went with the 7.3 on my 2024 f250 thank you
bet you if you need a battery pack they will be on permanent backorder. That truck will not last in the rust belt or near the coast of oceans.
Agreed, they have a long way to go before I’ll ever consider buying one.
Love the rear of that vehicle but that front white light bar looks cheaper than cheap
My '22 F-150 Lariat door seals must flap as well. I didn't pay much attention when I heard it, I just thought it was seat belts flapping in the wind. If I heard it, I just rolled up the windows.
The driver side rear door weather strip (attached to body) on my 2014 F150 actually starting coming off for some reason, maybe from having sunroof open or front window
Not bad! Note: Your 2021 was built in 2020!! All three F-150 factories within the last 3 years have been skimping on the factory Quality Control.
I believe the frunk noise is normal though. It differs from a regular front hood where it just latches only. The frunk actually pulls the lid tight against the seals.
I have a 2020 F150 that I bought new and I have had zero problems. Maybe I am just lucky. The Lightnings do not impress me at all.
Good luck getting it repaired. I have a chip from day one in my door panel that ford rejected to fix. My platinum lightning seats are turning blue, and have over spray from the factory bed liner on the cab. With those things and the software problems i have i dont think ill buy another ford again. I upgraded from an 04 5.4 (why i initially subscribed)
I have a 22 Lariet ER Lightning. Just over 16k miles now. Worst thing I hate about it is the tires they sell with it. I got the optional AT tires. I tend to drive with a heavy foot more so than not. I have found that the front tires and the ones that will turn over the easiest, straight line or corners. The tires are pretty well shot at this point. I'll be buying some within the month. They will not go through another winter here in Michigan. I've had the hood latching motors replaced, the diver seat leather replaced because of premature wrinkling. Next set did the same pattern in 1 day. Center dash speaker cover replaced because of warpage. Need to get the rear light bar replaced and battery software update done. I have also noticed that the weather molding on the cab at the bottom of the door towards the rear of the seat is wearing through. I thought maybe my shoes was rubbing on it but it is too far back...
I am so glad I am not that dealer🤣🤣🤣
Gosh, my 1980 Ford F-150 shortbed works just fine. Inline 6 cylinder, carburetor. No software, no ECM. I would buy an older Ford, 1975 to 1979, but no one will sell them if they're in good condition. If Ford brought back the small Courier truck it would sell well.
They did, it's called the Maverick, and it sells so well the line is wrapped around the Mexican built plant 4 times.. Sadly, when they get there order, they too will see massive build quality issues..
Im excited for when he gets the truck back and its "fixed" video👍👍
Yeah I'm glad I'm keeping my 21 F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost for quite awhile
sorry...did i actually hear you suggest NOT getting one of these TRUCKS if you intended to haul things around????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Luxury EV that tall and heavy? Ridiculous!!
Lots of people have trucks and not tow or haul shit. Outside of a run to home depot this truck is meant to replace the truck of the family that uses a pickup as a family sedan.
Our lightning at work, had this recall, the dealer had to replace 3 individual cells, it has since been back for another recall for the charge of the 12 volt battery system
I have a 2018 with the Ford spray in bed liner, use it quite often never had an issue.
What does this mean for your common Ford mechanic, or any auto mechanic in general?
Adapt or die - like any trade. I started as a kid when electronics were vacuum tubes, then transistors, then ICs, then dense ICs, then surface mount. I'm 66 and do microsoldering under a microscope. Adapt or die.
I can't believe you bought that👎 Tyler Hoovie had one and it couldn't barely tow a tiny trailer.
I have a 2023 F-150 5.0L with extended range tank if I need to tow anything.
I’m going to say you have a great rapport with your dealer, as you probably know more than them.😁
Just got my truck back from the dealer: Ford is the most ridiculously bad quality. They said my 6 year old truck is failing due to rust. At six years old.... I'm trading it off ASAP.
Am I the only one who cannot spend a single dollar anywhere without immediate buyers remorse?
Seriously, everything from a simple purchase at a food joint to a new vehicle purchase, it seems like every dollar spent only contrubutes more to my stress levels than anything else.
It was not long ago when spending money was still fun.
Getting less for more
@@trumptookthevaccine1679 More like getting scammed everywhere.
Thanks for sharing your issues. Yeah embarrassing for any new truck. But 90K.....should be perfect. My 2000 Expedition with the 4.6 just keeps going. When they get back to that level of endurance they may see me again.
Good they deserve to get that you believe in electric trucks and cars will there you go you believe in there bulshit
I've yet to hear any 15 year old ford engine sound like it was working well lol.
I had a 2021 f150 that spent way too much time in the shop. Lots of electrical/software problems. driveshaft replaced due to the heat shiels rubbing on it which was upsetting due to telling the dealer there was a rattle starting at 4k miles. They didn't replace it until the item was recalled. The intelligent cruise worked part time, the head unit would just shut off and to top it off the truck locked me out one time and then wouldn't start without putting the key in the slot under the cup holder. To top it off the 10 speed downshited so hard while slowing down you'd swear you got rear ended. Ended up getting rid of it when the bumper to bumper was up.
Good on you that it's only a lease. Still a sharp looking truck, though !
I've heard that replacing that extended range battery costs $37,000.
If that's true I wonder what kind of resale value this truck would have at the 6 or 7 year point?
I can hardly believe that is a $90,000.00 vehicle. The drive train and electric system may be what costs so much to manufacture I would guess but have my doubts. I'd like to see how this truck has held up in 2-5 years. The interior looks cheap at least in the video. And my first thought on the trunk had been exactly what you described. For what they want that should reek of quality. This truck should be immaculate in every way for 90k.
happens with every brand
I would not pay .90 for that golf cart
If there was a Mt. Rushmore for Ford, you would be all 5 dudes! Thanks for your great work
Hate to say it but your mentioning refined or the lack thereof, really rings true. That striker bar looks like something off of a lawnmower.
Are you going to need new wheel bearings every 8k miles?
That spray in liner is trash… my 19 superduty had to have it it repaired 2x already. Just peels off
I have the same window seal problem with my 2023 Tremor F150. Ford Canada told the dealership that it’s a characteristic of the F150 and they do not have a fix for it at this time. Brutal.
I have a 23tremor I'm going to have to check it out I never noticed it
Like I've been saying for years they don't make cars and trucks like they used to! I love my old 2000 Ford excursion still going strong! 200000 miles Everything still works!
You work on Fords...and you BOUGHT one?!
If I was a practicing Catholic, I'd do an intercessory prayer on your behalf of your soul!
I love Fords!
This is silly. T is built better by a non-union workforce and updates over the WiFI in my garage. The largest issue I had was converting a 30A 240 outlet from a dryer to the wall charger. Still...nothing i ever see makes me want to buy a ICE vehicle newer than 2010.
Tesla has awful build quality, ask me how I know!
Not saying it's an awful car but adjusting panel gaps shouldn't be part of new car ownership.
@@badm0t0rf1ng3r it has its flaws....but nothing like the regular garbage from Detroit
@@zaffo757 I've had a 2014 Raptor that has been essentially issue free for close to a decade now. Just normal maintenance. My Tesla goes to the shop at least every 4 to 6 months.
Even with that said I really like. Works great, charging costs nothing, quick as can be... fits in parking garages!