Longevity means shiet if you can’t win many chips. 4 is pretty bad for playing that long. MJ has 6, Bill has 11. It’s not how many years you played , it’s what have you done in those years.
@@grandzeno9925 yup, but ultimately that goal is achieved by a team and not an individual player. Giving an individual complete credit for a team achievement is shallow to say the least. So yeah, championships aren’t everything. For that same reason there are tons of hall of famers who never won the big one, and they are in the hall of fame because we recognize that they are some of the best talent regardless of their failure to win.
@@T_M_E_8 Stop changing the narrative. Im not comparing a team and an individual player, I’m talking about championship being the overall accomplishment. Many can become a HOF but only a few can win multiple championships, even better 3 in a row. You’re talking about as if lebron doesn’t chase championships lol if that’s the case why is hoping teams ?? It’s due to the fact he wants many championships 😂😂 Most people in society and backed up by a lot evidence know that MJ is better then lebron.
@@grandzeno9925 you asked if championships are the ultimate goal and I explained how it is, but it isn’t a reflection on an individuals talent as much as it is a reflection on their teams talent. If that were the case then Jordan would’ve won it in 88 because that was one of his best seasons statistically. How about stay focused because it’s the topic you asked me about bozo. I don’t care what the majority of people do, after all it is a subjective thing. I agree that not many people can win three in a row because not many people have a team that is good enough. Jordan never made a conference finals without Pippen, and then that same bulls team won only 2 games less after Jordan retired. If winning was a credit to Jordans greatness, why did they only win 2 less games without him? It’s almost as if there is hall of fame talent and the greatest coach of all time on the Bulls or something…. Almost like it wasn’t just Jordan
Y’all who just keep saying 6-0 over and over should ask yourself, “why did Michael Jordan only make it to the finals 6 times?” He played 15 years in the league, why was he only good enough to make the finals 6 times. Lebrons played 21 years and made the finals 10 times. Don’t worry, I’ll do the math for you lol: 10/21 > 6/15. Don’t punish lebrons final record just cause he was actually good enough to get there. Not to mention, lebrons been able to win champs with multiple diff teams and not just the same overpowered team each time. I don’t even fuck w lebron like this (really disliked that China business). AI, Kobe, and shaq are my goats lol. But I feel the need to stand up for bron, w how hard you Jordan meatriders go at him
MJ is the goat and this isn't even a debate
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the and only mj the goat
Longevity means shiet if you can’t win many chips. 4 is pretty bad for playing that long. MJ has 6, Bill has 11. It’s not how many years you played , it’s what have you done in those years.
Chips aren’t everything, people just focus on that one thing and try taking the credibility of the rest of basketball.
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The ultimate goal every NBA season is to win the chip or else what are they playing for ??? Who can survive the longest ?? lol
@@grandzeno9925 yup, but ultimately that goal is achieved by a team and not an individual player. Giving an individual complete credit for a team achievement is shallow to say the least. So yeah, championships aren’t everything. For that same reason there are tons of hall of famers who never won the big one, and they are in the hall of fame because we recognize that they are some of the best talent regardless of their failure to win.
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Stop changing the narrative. Im not comparing a team and an individual player, I’m talking about championship being the overall accomplishment. Many can become a HOF but only a few can win multiple championships, even better 3 in a row. You’re talking about as if lebron doesn’t chase championships lol if that’s the case why is hoping teams ?? It’s due to the fact he wants many championships 😂😂 Most people in society and backed up by a lot evidence know that MJ is better then lebron.
@@grandzeno9925 you asked if championships are the ultimate goal and I explained how it is, but it isn’t a reflection on an individuals talent as much as it is a reflection on their teams talent. If that were the case then Jordan would’ve won it in 88 because that was one of his best seasons statistically. How about stay focused because it’s the topic you asked me about bozo. I don’t care what the majority of people do, after all it is a subjective thing. I agree that not many people can win three in a row because not many people have a team that is good enough. Jordan never made a conference finals without Pippen, and then that same bulls team won only 2 games less after Jordan retired. If winning was a credit to Jordans greatness, why did they only win 2 less games without him? It’s almost as if there is hall of fame talent and the greatest coach of all time on the Bulls or something…. Almost like it wasn’t just Jordan
Y’all who just keep saying 6-0 over and over should ask yourself, “why did Michael Jordan only make it to the finals 6 times?” He played 15 years in the league, why was he only good enough to make the finals 6 times. Lebrons played 21 years and made the finals 10 times. Don’t worry, I’ll do the math for you lol: 10/21 > 6/15. Don’t punish lebrons final record just cause he was actually good enough to get there. Not to mention, lebrons been able to win champs with multiple diff teams and not just the same overpowered team each time. I don’t even fuck w lebron like this (really disliked that China business). AI, Kobe, and shaq are my goats lol. But I feel the need to stand up for bron, w how hard you Jordan meatriders go at him
Ayo lebron is a fraud I’m the real deal.