How To Drill Through a Metal Lintel | Blind Fixing Made Easy
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2023
- Today i will be showing you how to drill through a steel lintel the easy way. Struggling when fitting blinds is a common issue due to hitting the metal lintel above the window. Today i will show you a DIY hack that will make the job easy. If you like the content leave a like and please subscribe for more content like this as I've got a lot more to come and there will be something that will help you out.
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Hopefully this little trick helps you out. Leave the powerful drills alone for this one! Oh and apparently I mistakenly said mm instead of cm somewhere in here 🤪
Might be a stupid question.. but do you still have t use a wall plug or a specific screw type.. Cheers
Probably the m12 is more powerful than the dealt
Hi there
I need to make a new 2-way, 1-gang light switch into just a one-way switch.
Well, actually it's a dimmer switch I'm trying to install.
I don't do online shopping. It's too risky for me to use.
I just use local shops.
The trouble is that Screwfix don't sell 1-gang 1-way dimmer switches - with a 25 mm box depth.
I wonder if you would make a video of this please?
The only video I can find on CZcams as been done by someone who lives in India.
Thank you.
Love that method 👍 your pronunciation of 'Milwarkee' and drilling a 'hurle' made me laugh 😁👏
Good tip.. though its 50 centimetres gap from peace scrap wood to top of window sill. Not 50 millimetres
Hiya, love your videos and they have helped me in the past. As a blind fitter I wanted to return the favour with some alternative options. If it's a catnic or an RSJ lintel then you can just use a 2.5mm - 3mm drill bit. Then use a slightly thicker screw which will will screw directly in to the metal providing a much better fixing than any rawplug. Alternatively if it's a catnic lintel the easy drive screws will work in the same way, without you having to drill a pilot hole in the steel with a HSS drill bit. Finally the box bracket you are using will also have side holes. So the blind can be fixed to the side instead of above which will mean you won't have to drill through the lintel. I have found that when fitting wooden venetian blinds, this is a better fitting. This is because a venetian blind is pulled to lift the blind up when you clean your windows. That force is pulling down and away from the fixing, whereas a side fix has the benefit of using the force each side to hold it, so that you are not pulling against it.
Sorry but i have to ask (not being rude) As a blind fitter how do you see where to put the screws?
@@Sly_Wolf_1 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant advice
@@Sly_Wolf_1 he must using some sort of guide Dawg.
@@Sly_Wolf_1 my guide dog tells me
The importance of good drills and slow speed with pressure cannot be overstated when drilling steel. Very easy to overheat and blunt the bit. Good tips. That curtain pole is a monster lol
Absolutely. It is haha 👍
Just fitted my vertical door blinds as you demonstrated, using the drill bit you recommended. It worked brilliantly. THANK YOU.
Glad it helped!
Straight off the bat I have had some great ideas from seeing the idea you used here, not just for lintels but a lot more applications, thanks
This is an excellent example of leverage and the use of scrap material. I come across my first steel lintel hanging a blind for my father. The difference was the floor-to-lintel was about 6 feet. I used two bits of timber, one vertical and one on top horizontal. Pulling down on the horizontal timber pushing the drill up
Great way of doing it!
I am 79, blind in one eye and I have just drilled 6 holes for 3 support brackets for heavy faux wood venetian blinds. I wish I had seen this video first, because I was so knackered at the end. I have another wide blind to do and after seeing your video I immediately purchased the clamp/spreader from Amazon. I also like the idea of Tek screws mentioned in the comments.
I've just finished putting one up .. also needed 4 holes in the centre for a support for these longer blinds. Was like a knife through butter using this method with metal peelings falling away & with the suggested drill bit. Before this it took me a whole day to do 2 small blinds using the normal method. I was drilling for hours. Today it took minutes. Thank you!!
As a lad who has just bought and is currently renovating his first house, your information and videos have been invaluable! So easy to watch and follow. I have some knowledge in DIY but your tips and tricks speed things up and save me thousands, all from the central heating flush to putting up blinds. 👍🏻 keep it up mate!
Great to hear! Thanks
Thanks for the info. Learned some bar clamps come with a reversible foot, a tidbit I never knew. Carry on, and be well.
that is the best vertical drill hack ever. You old son are a booody genius!!
Brilliantly helpful video... wish I'd seen something like this years ago.. would have prevented all that lactic acid build up! Great channel full of great tips..
Thanks a lot 😁
Wow. Every challenge that you spoke about in this video is exactly what we're going through at this very moment and we couldn't figure out how to get past it, but now we feel like we have an opportunity to move forward. Thank you. 😊
We tried to do this, but we didn't buy the right drill bits so we failed horribly. 😢😮
@@HeartSoulLeakeso.. what did you do next?
Great tip.
U can do a similar thing for drilling metal at the bench using e.g. a steel pole or 4x2 a bit like a lever but with the drill at the fulcrum (pivot point) a bit like a nutcracker.
If I could add my two penny worth, may I suggest you drill a pilot hole through the lintel at say 2 or 3 mm and then progressively increase the drill bit size to your (6 mm) requirement.
Great video as ever and very topical for me given my daughter has an uncanny knack of "finding" lintels wherever I have to put up her roller blinds!!!!
Of course, each to their own. The pilot hole method I have never found to be faster in my experience. However if that works for you then that's great 👍. Thanks
@@TheDIYGuy1 it’s definitely not quicker but will stop your bits from fucking up over time
A gem of an idea BC. I have used pilot drills from the 1960s for metal AND brick - it guarantees an easy and level and straight entry for the subsequent larger bits. Pilot bits are ESSENTIAL in wood for flat blade bits. So a pilot bit EVERY time (I buy dozens as they are cheaper than the bigger bits and dispose easily without regret when it loses its sharpness.)
The DIY Guy is correct that such a procedure is slower but time is in abundance (hopefully) with us DIY-ers.
Drills smaller than 3mm are easy to break. Good luck extracting the broken fragment. 6mm isn’t a big drill so just go through in one go.
I disagree, That narrow a drill bit will break and then what? You can't move over, you need the holes where they are, but you now have a hardened steel bit in the way. I disagree with much in this video. If you use 3.9mm hss, then a #8 screw goes right in. 3.9mm won't break. Not sure why you need rawlplug in steel anyway. Besides, why drill up for Venetians? And, do you carry a trailer of all different 2x4s? This just isn't practical. I fit hundreds of blinds a week for over 20 years.
Thanks for sharing, very useful video.
I ran into the same issue, and nearly gave it.
After watching this video I realised i was doing things wrong.
I used a HSS drill bit, but had drill on the fastest speed, and when I realised I was not making much progress used hammer mode too.
As you said slowest speed and with sustained pressure, I finally got through just holding drill after 30-40 secs.\
Thanks
Nice work. I still remember the red hot drill bit and the horrible smell from my first steel lintel encounter
Glad I just saw this video, wife wants me to put up a new curtain rail after I have painted living room. Also seen other videos you have done. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Just go through the side reveal Fuck all that bollocks 🤣🤣
Thanks for this. Can't believe how much time and pain it has saved me.
Glad it helped!
So simple but a phenomenal skill to have 👏👏👏
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Love your videos keep up the good work😊
Very Useful, thanks for sharing!
Such a good video, wish i had seen this before putting up all the blinds in our house. Lots of sweatin, effin and jeffin trying to drill through the lintels. Glad i have found your channel, keep up the great work
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
All i do is get some step ladders to take me to the higher level. From that higher level, i usually find I can put more force, without an outstretched arm, i.e. from my waist/chest height, tuck myself into the inner window area and push upwards, it works for me anyway. Love your video's and i often check them out if i'm lost on my DIY projects.
I've just finished 3 hours battle with IKEA blinds. Already gave then I foud your video... MASSIVE THANKS!!!!
Haha your welcome
This is much better than my "technique" that I've used in the past of getting the 6.3kg sds hammer out and making a mess of the wall (the drill is a bit difficult to control and usually ends up over-enlarging the hole in the plaster). Think I'll try this next time!!
Great stuff 🙂
Helpful tips. Thank u very much !
Helped me sooooooo much. Thanks buddy.
Hi, yup, I'm a hobby metal worker. The centre part of most drills for metal actually works by scraping, it needs a lot of pressure to get through the metal. What may help is to buy something called 'a four flute drill'. This has an extra grind that makes the drill cut right to the centre point. They wander less and cut better. Hope it helps.
I had to fit blinds onto lintels. I didn't drill a hole. I used baypole screws (also called Tek screws). The screw drills it's own hole and cuts its thread in the steel as it goes in. Fantastic screws perfect for this
Good tip 👍
Yep agreed, still great tip if you don't have Tek screws.
Speed is the enemy. Glad I saw this before installing the blinds! Thank you
Glad to help
Very clever idea, one for the locker later on thank you
No problem 👍
Worked perfectly, thank you mate
No problem 👍
Very good. Thank you much.
Excellent stuff. Cheers for sharing. 👍👌
Thanks for the visit 👍
Really useful information 😃 cheers will definitely be using this
Method for new blinds...👌
My pleasure 😊
thanks Great review , and a good tip
Thank you!
Excellent tip matey!
Glad you liked it!
This is a great tip, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing a great tip.
No problem!
Great idea I use self tappers as well
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As a DIY numpty this was a great tip and it worked! Downside is, I now have to fit more blinds 😁
Excellent!
What a great tip! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent technique thanks very much, i will go out and buy a rough neck clamp like yours. Thanks for the video
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
brilliant. love your content
Much appreciated!
Been drilling and tapping them for years... M4 does the Job....
Great little trick...wish I'd seen this after before fitting 7 blinds! Subscribed anyway for future tips!
Thanks for the sub!
I need to try this method because the last time i had to drill through a steel lintel i used 3 drill bits for each bracket. great video.
Haha it happens. But now you know 😁
Decent drill bits is the key as found out the hard way -
@@davyarthurs What drill bits do you use please.
Dude, were was this video 2.5 years ago when I installed my blinds! Lol
Great video.
Great Video !! thanks very much !!
You are welcome!
nice simple tip ,thanks
No problem!
Brilliant idea well worth a sub
Thanks for the sub!
Brilliant idea !
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video. All my windows have metal lintels which is a pain but at least it's doable. Hard, but doable. 😊
You can do it!
Thanks bud great video 😊
No problem 👍
Slow and steady, some cooling fluid on the bit helps. Surprising how many feel they need a powerful drill and to go at it like a jack hammer!
👍 thanks for sharing
Yay!!!! ❤
Or can you use a batten stick up with no nails and put your blinds up on it?
Nice tip
Cheers mate, I gave up when I tried a while back now I have net curtains lol but I'll give this technique a shot.
Do it! 😀
Oh I just bought the correct drill bits - What a relief.
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I thought I was a weakling for my arms dropping off doing this. That little clamp rig is genius!
😂 give it a go!
Good idea if your drill bit is pants. But I use a Dewalt extreme hss bit with pilot hole starter and it goes through like butter in no time. Builder got me onto that bit after he drilled through an rsj easily with one 👍🏻
Brilliant thanks 👍
Anytime 👍
Milwaukee thunderwebs are brilliant bits! Money well spent 👍🏻
Totally agree
Now you show me that tip 😝 Did this job a few months back with some sh1te drill bits! It was tough going. Slow and steady with steel. I did tape some card to the wall to protect the paint from the drill’s chuck 😄
Yeah I probably should of done that 🙂, I did have a little paint to touch up!
Top tip mate
Glad you enjoyed it
Cheers mate, seems like not utstustaining pressure was my problem!
But seriously, great advice 😁
No worries!
good idea nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
Thanks a lot for this extremely helpful video. I am a first timer DIYer so appreciate if you don't mind giving me some advices: (1) Is there any rules for screw length? For example, if the gap between the plasterboard and the metal lintel is 30mm, would a 35mm screw good enough to hold a curtain rail or pole? I think the longer the better but if the metal lintel is not think enough, a long screw with a long wall plug may not help? (2) Is there any particular screw type that works better? E.g. self-drilling / self-tapping.
Brilliant
Useful video thanks. Do you have any tips on drilling into the lintel to fit the curtain poles, I see you have a brown wooden one fitted.
I know this is an old video but I've struggled with this many times and recently tried with Cobalt HSS drill bits and it chewed through the lintel on a low speed in less than 20 seconds with barely any pressure. With my old HSS drill bits, the same hole took me 15 minutes of sustained pressure to get through (didn't have the tool you used to push the drill up, my arms were killing haha)
Awesome video. Is there a similar hack for when you need to drill horizontally?
Just use self tapping screws work like magic @the DIY guy
Personally I cut the Rawlplug down to the correct length and then pump some neoprene adhesive into the hole,wait a couple of hours..job done!!
Neat trick, thanks for sharing. And once you have the hole through the lintel you don’t need special screws, just ordinary wood screws will do fine, but they must match the size of the hole you drilled, you can’t bodge over-sized screws in as you can with wood …
👍 your welcome
Do you not use a wall plug?
Sometimes you also hit the cavity section and have to use a plasterboard-type fixing. Then what about underneath a bay window when there doesnt seem like any fixings above the plasterboard.
You can also buy some self tapping hex head screws that will drill into the steel easily if the screw heads are not going to be exposed
Great idea with the clamp, but can I add a few things/questions.
If no center bracket is required, why not just use the side fixings into the wall, where there is no Lintel ?
Also best to protect the wall, as you must have had to paint those scratches you put on the reveals !
Also you drill a 6mm hole, but you don't mention if you use wall plugs, which I presume you do. Surely you dont just drive screws, into the lintel ?
When you drill the first hole, on the left, you don't mention, adjusting the clamp to keep the pressure on.
Regards Steve
Thanks for the tip. What size is the spreader beam, 150 mm, 300 mm, 450 mm, or 600 mm?
Just a quick tip, 3.5 mm hss drill bit and
1 1/2”x8 screws is all you need, no need for the wood or the clamp (I fitted blinds for a living for many years) 👍
As a retired blind fitter I agree with you Jeff. Its all rosy unless you catch the edge of the lintel. For heavy blinds, I top and side fix ( brickwork can be dodgy on side wall in a top corner). 👍
I've been drilling through 15mm steel with a decent 3.5mm or 5mm hss bit depending what fixing I'm using no need to clamp anything just hold my drill up on the scissor lift. obviously took longer but way thicker. also was drilled a lot straighter. thays my trick. buy decent drill bits go full speed with cutting oil or Vaseline. works great saves messing around with a clamp.
This guy he a genius
Thanks
Great video - very useful - Thanks. Q - what fixing do you then use for the screw - a normal rawlplug or just screw straight into the lintel?
I like to use Fischer duo power for these but yes normal plug is fine 👍
A really useful video. Thanks. It's saved me a lot of grief. I assume you meant 50cm rather than 50mm.
Thanks for this, do you have tips for directly in the wall please? I’ve stumbled on this and just filled the holes back 🤦♀️
Once you have a 6mm hole do you have to tap it or use special self tapping screws?
Do some of them lintels not have insulation inbetween, in which case what do the blinds then hang off, just the plasterboard?
Thank you so much for this tip we were getting really frustrated with trying to hang our blind and we’re about to give up we thought we had wasted our money buying these blinds till I found your video it worked fantastically 😊 … thanks again you stopped us from getting a divorce! 😂
What you may want to consider is on top sits a cavity tray which when there moisture in the cavity it works it’s way down the tray and through the weep holes on the brickwork!…imagine the holes drilled will be near the back of the tray where water could gather.
Just a thought
Christmas list next year is some lintels and some blinds so I can do this!
😆 I always wait for your comment G man lol
I invested in carbide drill bits a while back and they would chew through that in about 15 seconds of upward pressure. They last for ever too
One of those skills
Absolutely 🤗
Good advice on drilling through steel. Just a bit surprised you didnt just screw the brackets in the sides of the window (rather than drilling upwards) as this would better support the weight of the blinds if you ever need to pull on the cord to raise them….
Yeah that would definitely be better, I guess this is more of an example for a mid supporting bracket, or where the bracket doesn't allow side mounting
When I did this job it was easier to drill into the tops of the walls rather than ends of the lintel. The large drill body gets in the way so I used a long drill bit with SDS machine so the screws were as near horizontal as possible. With plasterboard facings you need to push the plugs into the brick and use longe screws.
If the house is timber framed or has plastic cavity closures you’ll have to rely on plasterboard fixings. I like the metal screw in type but the work best with a 6mm pilot hole. Use an ordinary metal drilling bit and clean out the flutes when done.
When you’ve got a half tiled window (in a kitchen for example) you have to mount the brackets from the top as they’re not made wide enough when you take into account the width of the tile and adhesive either side.
Hi been installing blinds for 25 years. Lintel....1/8 drill bit, 6 gauge 1/4 self tapper screw. A lot easier and stronger.
What an excellent idea - would never have occurred to me to use a clamp in spreader mode to apply even pressure. Would you not also recommend a bit of cutting paste on your drill bit tips to extend their life? Granted not every one would have it to hand.
Thanks. Yep you could do
Suppose it's OK for a really green DIY'er, but any semi-experienced DIY'er with a modicum of upper body strength and a decent quality drill bit doesn't need to use that clamp trick to get through a domestic steel lintel! More time and hassle than it's worth.
Each to their own, whatever works for you.
What did you do after getting through the lintel - continue with a masonry bit into the brick behind to either get an plug in or clear space for the screw?
What type of wall plug did you use for the screw in the metal lintel?
As theres a gap between wall and metal lintel. So whats holding the screw?