Always reminds me of this quote form the HBO mini-series Chernobyl "You'll do it because nobody else can. And if you don't, millions will die. If you tell me that's not enough I won't believe you. This is what has always set our people apart. A thousand years of sacrifice in our veins. And every generation must know its own suffering.” - Boris Shcherbina, Chernobyl, Miniseries: Episode: "Please Remain Calm"
Yes, Stalin's soldiers shed a lot of blood to reclaim half of Europe from the hands of the fascist regime, then seized these lands and locked the people behind the Iron Curtain for 45 years. Half of Europe swapped one occupation for another, and we feel absolutely no gratitude towards the Russians.
@@adriannaszudrzynska9371 The Iron Curtain and the Soviet occupation of Europe was a heinous act and period but the Russians historically are the most responsible for the Nazi defeat in the east and they suffered tremendous causalities in doing so.
You are actors, so watch and react to " Come and See" , especially because it is 8th of May today. Thus you will understand what have people seen during the war.
>"we never had anything like this before." >"This cant happen again". WW1 aka The Great War aka The War to End All Wars wants to know your location. I recon the survivors of it were saying the exact same thing. And here we go again.
The video gives a good perspective and also puts our contribution to WWII in comparison to other countries. Not to belittle the sacrifices our country made, but we've really played down the role of the USSR/Russia in the war and how much more affected they were.
I'm German and in EVERY family you had people that were killed or crippled or disfigured in the war as a soldier. Even if they came from rural areas that had not much war going on in daily life. Both my grandfathers survived, both were POW, one in France the other in the East. (Both were not in the Nazi party BTW) I was born 1974 and these people were around. (Not my grandfathers, but still). And you had MILLIONS of people coming in from the East that fled death, torture and rape and experienced it. After the war they were in the neighborhood, in your house. Because of shortage of housing it was mandatory to take people in. Other then the guilt that many or most Germans still have to this day, this death and devastation still runs in the collective and individual psyche. And that is all over Europe and I think this mindset and awe that is still present, when it comes to war, connects the Europeans, but even closer Germans with Russians, Poles and others from the East. I imagine I feel what they feel. Might sound strange, but it was SO major that it might have changed the genes. There is a darkness and depression around these peoples, that we share. But Soviets could cover this hurt with pride, while all Germans had was shame and guilt. Nie wieder Krieg!
I'm Russian and let me tell you something(if you do not mind). I don’t like how now in Russia, due to the political course, this “pride” arising from the superiority of the winner has increased. (And it was different at all early) I understand how much the Russian people paid a lot and I appreciate their sacrifice, but I absolutely don’t I like how politicians try to turn it into national superiority (it doesn't matter against whom). And although most people share my thoughts, some kind of nationalist movement of Russians (usually they are from 40-50 years old now) has appeared because of the propaganda that revels in the WW II as if it were not endless pain. And this is the worst modern thing, because I remember what my grandparents told me - that war is the worst thing that can happen and that it must be avoided at all costs. And this glorification of the past victory, from the point of view of superiority, is terrible. When my grandmother was still alive, this did not happen, and my grandparents did not think so. There was no pride stemming from superiority. My grandmother, she was 14, she carried the wounded from the fields, a nurse. Then she was returned to the rear, as she had a younger brother and sister without parents, and her brother was dying of hunger. And she could work at the factory and somehow take care of. My grandfather stole some stuff (like chairs) and went to jail for 2 years. And he had to be released, he had half a year left. He did not have time to released before the war. When the war began, he was left to walk through the minefields without the right to refuse. Like if you stole the chairs then you deserve to walk on mines? It's so cruel. He returned with a shell shock, did not receive any awards and drank a lot, apparently to forget those horrors. My great uncle was taken prisoner in Germany, one general chose him as a free labor force when he got to the camp and fortunately he returned alive. He was not treated badly (which was great luck for him). However, upon returning to Russia, he was deprived of any awards after the war "for betrayal" (by betrayal it was understood that he had to die but not be captured. just horror). Another great-uncle ended up in a camp in Germany and a German girl saved him there, she fed him. They fell in love, got married and stayed in Germany, but he had children here in Russia and he could not return because he would also fall under the article "betrayal" and go to prison. And when these articles "for betrayal" were finally canceled, he was able to return to his children and wanted to take them to Germany to a new family. But the family was irreparably destroyed because the children believed that he abandoned them. And he returned to Germany without his children. All this is sheer impenetrable horror. How the war ruined lives and how the consequences has lingered to this day, how that suffocating aura of depression is still with us. And we Russians and Germans understand this pain well. Сause so many lives have been destroyed. But the Germans really still bear an unbearable granite slab of guilt. And I don't blame the Germans who weren't Nazis. And the generation born after the war. And I do not want to be proud, but I recognize the sacrifices that were made by Russia with great respect. Like all the sacrifices that were made to stop Nazism, but the price that everyone paid is horrendous. I know that the Germans also suffered, and I know that many were the same people who got into the events and did not have much choice. I know that not everyone was a Nazi. This is all terrible nationalist propaganda that pushed people to war. And I don't hate the Germans and I believe that those who themselves did nothing wrong should not be accused of other people's sins. I am horrified at how politicians disposed of the lives of ordinary people. And I think I understand what it's like to live under the rule of a regime that does terrible things and you, cannot fix it even if you are trying. I know that many Germans did not want to participate in WW II. I share the pain of all the people who suffered in the WW II and its consequences. This pain that doesn't go away, but also a memory that we carry to avoid repetition. With our Russian politicians, I'm not sure what awaits us now, it feels like they are not learning their lessons. But as before, I, as a simple person under a totalitarian "democracy", do not know how to fix this. I am sincerely sorry that you suffered from the consequences of the WW II. I just want to say that this burden that we bear is divided between Russians and Germans and other peoples. I have no hatred in my heart for Germany and the Germans, and I extend my hand to you for support, because I know that this pain is terrible and so heavy.❤🔥
This can be understood by those who have absorbed the price of this victory with the blood of their ancestors. When there is no family in the country where there are no dead or injured, maimed. When your country is in ruins, and the women and cripples who came from the war had to restore it. The war claimed 27,000,000 lives, including about 10,000 soldiers. To this day, our lands are littered with the bones of the dead, who are found and solemnly buried. What kind of war I know from the stories of my grandmother and mother, who was 7 years old. They were held captive by the Germans for about three months. And it is disgusting to see how history is being rewritten, withholding the merits of the peoples of the USSR.
Тебе не кажется, что под таким видео этот комментарий слишком восторженный, что ли. Какое ура, когда речь идёт о гибели десятков миллионов наших людей???
@@user-ct4jx4ui6z Разве речь об этом? Видео о потерях в войне. Если бы видео было о победе в войне кричать "ура" уместно, а если о погибших- не очень, по-моему
When the video was on the military death count you could here the sound of feet marching that represented all those soldiers marching into battle. For me it added the devastating knowledge of how many soldiers from all countries were marching to their deaths for the war. It's scary to think about visualizing yourself as a young soldier marching with his troops while seeing the battles in the distance and destroyed cities/towns. Looking at the soldiers next to you looking forward with determination while also seeing they too know that their chances of surviving were slim. Especially if you knew a lot of the soldiers as friends/brothers/allies. It really brings home the morbid realities the soldiers had to face when marching into battle and accepting it. It chills me to the core to think about that. I hope you all have a wonderful day and I wish you all peace and happiness
Its mind boggling how much of a disaster was Stalingrad on the Eastern front.. What the American, Canadians, french and british did in 4 years, The germans amd russians did in just 6 months, terrifying how only 6000 germans survived, out of 600,000 german soldiers
My grandpa was telling me that they were gaving 1 gun to each 5th soldier in Soviets. There was no supply literally. They were like a fucking meat going in front without gun.
I'm from Germany and all I can say is that we are so sorry for everything what happened in the past... 😢🇩🇪❤️🌍 The problem was, that we had to join the Nazis, if we hadn't done it, they would've killed us and our families! 😥 Germany has definitely changed, every single German carries so much guilt from the past! All we want is peace and I really hope that something like WW2 will *NEVER* happen again!
You don't have to be sorry, you weren't involved and didn't commit atrocities. Don't be sorry for the mistakes of others and something that you don't agree with or didn't take part in.
One of my favorite videos to see reactions from, from both veterans and civilians. It's not exactly a happy video, but its a good one educationally. War ain't fun, but in 2 tours in Iraq, my Troop only had one KIA. Civilians were provided with aid, free pop up clinics in the area. In our age, you could say "I'll catch you later" with a certain degree of confidence.
There are still 1.2 million slaves in China. There are still over 12,000,000 slaves in Africa. 1,000,000 slaves in Eastern Europe. We still have ways to go, have to stop conceding to China and other dictatorships. Think of the midflr east and how many atrocities are committed on a daily basis. The big 44 powers need to teach the rest of the world better.
I was in 1 camp bergen belsen There was almost nothing there left standing except for a monument and a museum But it felt really off to walk there it felt like i was being watched by the dead
Remember and pass on to descendants that 80 years ago, superheroes from Russian villages stood under the red flag to voluntarily go to the meat grinder, to give their lives and hopes for the future to a bloody and cruel massacre, so that today your children would not have their skulls measured to make sure that they deserve to live ...
What a lot of people don't realize about the battle of Okinawa and why that number of deaths is so startling. Is the fact it's an island that's only 881 square miles. For the creators of this video, that's only 3 times the square mileage of the city of Chicago.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz вот зайдите и посмотрите, какие автоматически созданы. Прежде, чем писать! А английский да не знаю, я в школе и университете немецкий учила.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz спасибо попробую! На счёт языка вы молодец 👍 Мне видимо языки сложнее даются, конечно что то уже понимаю, но нет до знания ещё далеко. Чтобы выучить песню мне нужно время и читаю ещё с ошибками, поэтому слушаю произношение исполнителей запоминаю.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz нет функции Перевести, написано Английский создан автоматически или отключить субтитры. Всё! Как я понимаю, эту функцию владелец канала должен включить.
The Soviet soldier had been fighting for three years and was very weak, but he defeated a German soldier who was lying bloody and could no longer get up. At that moment American and British soldiers came up, kicked the German and exclaimed, "Victory is ours!"
Reading some of these comments made me feel like...I don’t know, imagine donating lots of blood and then couple of days later someone who needed it just shits all over you. History’s a bitch, there’re no ideal countries here on Earth, but I’m astonished by this never-ending hatred towards russian people. Well, maybe our grandads should’ve just gave up and let the whole world turn to dust :)
400 usa soldiers world war II, american citizens Covid 724 . that's why the united nations (UN) was formed in October 1945, because of WWII,,, with the intent to prevent such a scale of war as this ever again ....the UN replaced an earlier version of this called the (league of nations 1919) formed to to ensure a lasting peace
I live in Alabama, and my niece is 11 years old. I showed her this video and she told me she still doesn't quite get just how to imagine 70 million people, so I told her to look at it this way. The numbers are hotly disputed and are much more likely between 75 to 85 million people. Now imagine you woke up tomorrow to find out that every single person in all of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas were dead. Your family, your friends, every stranger you've ever met, ever face you've ever seen, all dead. You were the only one left alive in a sea of death for hundreds of miles in every direction. That was the cost of World War 2.
искажение фактов при упоминании Советского Союза.... и это понятно... как бы совсем чуть чуть негатива, а у зрителя остаётся в памяти... противно все это.
А что не было отказов проводить эвакуацию гражданских из городов, оказавшихся на линии фронта? Я не либерал, а как раз наоборот, но преступлений сталинского режима против собственного народа отрицать невозможно и преступно.
I watch out to reactors to realize the time that is ticking at the end of the video. The speaker - therefore Neil Halloran - points out, that now is the time for discissions to make which would ensure peace. The zoomed in time is Novembre, 8th 2016 around 09:07 am - that was the day when the US could have made such a discission. On that specific day USA elected Trump - not that wise to prevent wars I would think, but I am only a german guy.
8.7 миллионов только солдат, а сколько мирного населения... 27миллионов человек погибло в Советском Союзе в войне, а сколько пропало без вести... До сих пор отказывают останки той войны, ещё ржете, как кони, что парад каждый год проводим 9 мая, это парад победы, а не демонстрация силы
Unfortunately history does repeat itself the remilitarization of Mainland Europe is a modern echo of one the leading causalities of WW1 the arming of modernization of allied militaries that were then dragged into a global war because of alliances including Serbia and others that when threatened have the governments of Europe the excuse to go test the militaries on each other. Despite all auspices throughout history it looks like we're heading straight towards ww3. Also remember there was a significant time of peace prior to WW1 as well
I belive one reason for this video is to teach Americans the perspective of ww2. Often, Americans believe US changed the war (winning the war), while they only played a minor part of it in the European theatre. Germany was allready on a retreat when US entered Europe, and Soviet hardly get any cred for all their efforts, nor do all the smaller European nations.
Yea its mainly due to films. There isn't alot of films about the Russian front. Or (to my knowledge) much about what the British did in Africa. Its sad how people forget about the sacrifice other countries did.
Oh....and forgot the US largely fought the Japanese alone in the Pacific. The Russian effort was paid in blood like no other country but many played their part.
what `stuck out to me', as you say, as in the category of the death count, it did not mention those who committed suicide. such as those in the asian theater section. what was not mentioned was when the u.s. landed on the phillipines over on the island of saipan, is that during the battle, there were civilians that were literally jumping off cliffs and committing suicide. it was not just the men, the women would grab a hold of their children and pull them down with them.
Спасибо всему Советскому народу и товарищу Сталину в частности, за эту победу!!! Советская власть за 24 года (1917-1941) сумела подготовить страну к этой войне!!! "После моей смерти на мою могилу нанесут кучу мусора, но ветер истории безжалостно развеет её" И.В. Сталин.
Не сумела них... я. Мы победили только благодаря самоотверженности простых солдат, ни о какой тактике, подготовке, таланте военочальников (70% которых были репрессированы этим же Сталиным) речи не идёт
Touching one point, this explains why Russia totally went insular after world War 2. It also explains why they tried to create a kind of buffer zone of countries around them. The cold war between USA and USSR went on simply because the USA had no conceptual idea of the sufferings of Russia, they reacted and still react the way they do because of the utter horror they experienced. Times will change but it's really not that long in the scheme of things since 1945.
There were many factors that increased the soviet casualties 1. The Russian army wasn’t fully mobilized for the modern warfare: the Russians at the time were still using horses and inadequate weaponry and equipment compared to the modern times, barely any of their army had been updated since the first world war, they also didn’t have a lot of equipment ready to go Stalin had always known that the germans planned to double cross them, his non-aggression pact with germany was merely a strategic plan to buy the USSR time to prepare and as he perceived that the germans would betray them Stalin made preparations to prepare to battle the nazis later on, but he miscalculated when, not expecting Hitler to invade so quickly (which may have resulted from the german's failed African campaign and loss of nazis access to African oilfields) and so the Russian army hadn’t been readied for war by the time of the german invasion Stalin had also mass purged the army and government years before that point, leading to a giant decline in experienced and capable officers and leadership meaning many of the generals and planners of the war were inexperienced, which led to many blunders, poor planning and heavy losses. 2. Scorch earth policy: As is the Russian custom when invaded, the soviets retreated back into Russia drawing the germans further in, they destroyed crops, farms, oil reserves and train lines to prevent them being used or acquired by the nazis while this would harm and increase logistical problems for the invaders it also destroyed the Russian's food, resources and more importantly their most effective means of transportation especially of troops and equipment In fact Stalin held off on food for the people reserving it instead for the army, that and other logistical problems ensured lots of famine and poor conditions for civilians and soldiers alike which produced much hardship and loss of its own. The other issue was that the Russians could not match the Nazis. The germans had mechanized divisions of tanks and vehicles like cars, trucks, and motorbikes that could carry them great distances at quick speeds as well their air forces could do supply drops as they dominated the Russian sky the Russians couldn’t mobilize as fast them, in fact the one thing that saved Russia was the lend lease policy with the states, especially the use of vehicles which later gave the soviets the mobilization they needed to take the fight to the germans and push them out. 3. No surrender policy: Stalin imposed a mandatory rule of no surrender, meaning that all units were expected and required to fight to decimation (extinction) Millions of russians were forced to literally be butchered and were not allowed to retreat or fall back anyone who was caught and or found to have retreated by the soviet army or KGB/state police we’re executed. Many commissar commanders would literally force unarmed and inexperienced soldiers to literally attack fortified lines with machine guns pointed at their backs the other issue was because every unit was expected to fight to the last man, survivors were little meaning there was no build up of experienced soldiers, meaning every new battle and new battalion was green recruits and rookies not prepared to face off against the elite SS forces it was only later during the war as the soviets slowly had more success and victories that experienced units and battle hardened forces were built up 4. Nazis brutality: The germans had long viewed the east especially Russia with much contempt, it was believed by those in central Europe that the east was a place of heathens and was inferior and unclean much hatred and disgust was thrown towards eastern Europe, as such hitler and the nazis saw Russians, slavs and other eastern people’s as little more useful then for slave labour and or cannon fodder as such the Nazis invasion and occupation of Russia was a giant case of ethnic cleansing The sixth army would roll through, then special execution squads would follow, moping up and exterminating the leftover populace in mass executions and attacks, often filling mass graves, the germans also used the east as a place to test their genocide plans, such as mass firing squads of women and children and innocent civilians this proved a failure because too many soldiers began to have ptsd and or mass psychological issues so they instead went with gas, using outfitted trucks that would slowly gas the inhabitants to death but word soon got out about the nature of these “gas” trucks and the civilians would riot and fight back these methods were all part of the planning process that later evolved into the concentration camps and the “effective” efficient methods that were developed to bring about mass genocide especially the importance of secrecy, hence why the camps, showers and etc were built to be deceiving intuitionally to preserve the actual nature of the death camps. As well the nazis participated in mass terrorism against civilians, rape, thievery and forced starvation and because of their hatred of communist and the Russian and slavs in general, the Nazis would often kill commissars on sight and soviet soldiers were mass murdered intentionally by beatings, executions, mass forced marches, famine, disease, and deplorable conditions meant to cause their deaths. this is one reason the Russians took much glee and much pride when the time came to return the favor to the germans
Good comment. The only thing I would correct is that all countries were still using horses, including Germany. Actually it was proven that horses were more effective as scouts than motorcycles in the east where roads still weren't harden.
A good chunk of what you said is kinda BS. The soviets had equal if not better tech at the start of the invasion (Germany used more horses as a percentage of their army and was the least mechanized by far when compared to all of the major allies (France, USSR, UK, US), and were outnumbered during the initial invasion due to Stalin not expecting the Germans to attack while having the majority of the red army in position to defend against the Japanese. This is on top of them being invaded by the Germans, Italians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Finnish, and Romanians, so until the main forces of the Red army got back across Siberia the Soviets were outnumbered. The point you make about the soviets not being able to match the soviets in production is by far the most wrong out of everything you said. Just looking at tank production, one can see that the soviets outproduced the Germans in almost every way. The "One man gets a rifle, the other gets ammo" never happened. The only incident similar was when a regiment near Stalingrad didn't receive their supplies due to a slight delay in logistics. Instead of sending the guys out without guns, the soviets held them back until their supplies got there. No unit of the red army, not including militias who were not technically part of the red army, charged machineguns without weapons. That is a myth written by German generals make themselves look better. The soviet manpower advantage wasn't that they had massive untrained troop reserves to throw at the "elite" Nazis, but instead had trained reservists from the interwar period due to how soviet conscription worked and the Nazis did not. This meant that the soviets could replace their losses much faster than the Nazis could as the reservists did not have to be fully trained from scratch like the Germans did. The "elite" Nazi soldiers you mention spent most of the war massacring civilians behind their own lines and when they went into actual combat they were absolutely slaughtered (looking at you, dirwangers, and your 400% casualty rate). Your whole 3rd point is complete bull. The "Not one step back" policy that is so famous is generally completely misrepresented, as the full order talks about how it was not for the regular troops, but for officers instead. Generally speaking, if the unit pulled back without reason (which was a problem in the early war, with the specific incident that made stalin issue the order being that an entire army abandoned a city, letting the germans take it with little to no resistance. This of course leading to unnecessary casualties due to stranding units that didn't run when it occurred elsewhere) they were stopped and told to go back to their positions. The officer of the unit was punished if he did not comply (with the usual punishment being Penal Battalion), not the regular troops who were just sent back to their original position. Your 4th point is spot on. ~3 million of the soviet casualties are from the treatment or massacre of Soviet POWs by the Nazis because they threw soviet POWs in the camps with the other "undesirables", the dirwangers I mentioned earlier got famous for raping their way across Belarus, and clubbing 500 polish schoolchildren to death with their guns to save ammo during the Warsaw Uprising. edit: At their peak, only about 20~ of the german army was mechanized, the rest was horsedrawn or used bicycles. I cannot find any specific number for the Soviets other than said sources saying the vast majority of their logistics was motorized using lend lease trucks
@@cameronporter5137 1. While horses were used on par, the Germans invasion under Barbossa involved specifically their favored tactic of blitzkrieg which involved tanks, mechanized infantry and mechanized mobilized forces supported by massive waves of air support which is why the Invasion of russia had the germans get pretty far until the winter stalled them in 1941, After that it became a slog match that the germans had advantage of (at high cost) until Stalingrad where the tide turned. As for the idea they had equal or better equipment in some cases yes, but the soviets logistical operations were abysmal and terrible, and often or not there was not enough equipment like long radios and or when they truly needed to get full supplies out there such as when Stlain realized he had forced too many of his forces to decimation that there was no armies between the germans forward divisions and Moscow and had the Mozhask defensive line formed it could be done, but the reason for that was because Stlain personally saw supplies diverted and saw to them being fully armed, and he was famous for having "incompetents” shot for failures. The logistical information of operation typhoon for example is famously recorded as having the germans not only outnumber the soviets in manpower but various equipment as well. the soviets being outnumbered wasn’t the problem, the problem was the poor leadership, inexperienced commanders, wasted tank forces and defenses unable to contend or hold abasing german tactics and tanks if not for Zhukov and the battle of Moscow it is doubtful the soviets would have survived. 2. I never said the soviets couldn’t match the germans in terms of production i said they couldn't match the germans in terms of mobilization, since they had destroyed their train lines and the spring turned the roads into sludge which bogged down both german and russian tanks and etc. and it is historical fact that the most valued part of the lend lease with russia from the states were mobilized vehicles. notionthatsovietsweresent out without weapons false sovietlogisticsdidn’tespeciallycampaignsfirstyears of 3. While i do believe that there were trained reservists, those reservists were quickly spent most soviet forces in the first 2 years of the war especially up to the battle of Moscow etc. were massacred or captured by the germans, and no significant veteran troops were allowed to form and Yes the no retreat order applied to commanders who were denied the ability to fall back or regroup which did end up in their forces being wiped out to decimation, or encircled and reduced until they either were dead or surrendered The government sent out many orders especially one on October 13th of 1941 detailing the level of punishment for any “traitors" who fled, retreated and or allowed equipment to fall into german hands and Stalin;s order 270: "required encircled soldiers to use every possibility to fight on, and to demand that their commanders fight on and organize resistance to the enemy." "Anyone attempting to surrender instead of fighting on must be destroyed and their family members deprived of any state welfare and assistance. The order also required division commanders to demote and, if necessary, even to shoot on the spot those commanders who failed to command a battle directly in the battlefield." "There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors.” russian soldiers were not allowed to retreat without orders, orders that Stalin refused on numerous recorded occasions to give his commanders which meant they were wiped out and had they disobeyed orders of their commanders and retreated, they would be executed or arrested as deserters and or for defying orders the most famous being stalin's orders to Konev to not pull back which allowed the germans to trap the soviet armies in the “cauldrons” and led to the complete massacre of the soviet 43rd army and the encirclement of the 20th and 24th, the 3rd, 14th and 50th all of which were either reed ned until they were dead, or surrendered, those ho escaped were lucky and few. Also the russians viewed any soldier who escaped as being the same as traitors, mot escapee Russians officer or not were interrogated by the NKVD, and anyone who the NKVD didn’t like or believe were sent to Siberia and gulags which was basically itself a death sentence from harsh and deportable conditions. The point being Stalin's refusal to allow retreat caused mass extinction of entire soviet armies, which hindered troop quality, experience and or the build up of veteran forces and the soviets viewed any soldier or officer who retreated, fled and or didn’t fight to the death as possibly traitors, cowards and with distrust and hatred, Because of this the army’s efficiency and ability was hampered longer than it should have Soviet tank crews for example were notoriously inexperienced, often forgetting to turn on fans to keep the fumes and heat of the tanks from causing mass illness and issues among the crewman and tank commanders on many occasions wasted their tank forces potential with terrible orders and or strategy. as for elite nazis forces, my main point was that the majority of the german legions including SS divisions, some of their best commanders, and their best troops were sent to the eastern front
In fact, the USSR lost many more civilians than soldiers. The total losses of the USSR amounted to 27 million people, and only 11 million of them were military, the remaining 16 million were civilians. And in general, the casualty figures were completely different, Germany lost more than 8 million people on the eastern front. The words that Stalin forbade evacuation from the Leningrad region are a lie. Read about the "Road of Life", this highway through Lake Ladoga, medicines, weapons and ammunition were delivered to the city along with food, and people were evacuated from the city along it. More than 1.3 million people, mostly women and children, were evacuated by road during the blockade. So don't believe this lie.
American tanks and British intelligence clearly "showed" themselves on D-Day. Rommel is a different story. The day before the landing, he left for Berlin. The occasion is far-fetched - his wife's birthday. He also summoned to Germany the entire senior officers of the 7th Army (defense of Normandy) to his headquarters in Germany for a meeting. All this was done in order to weaken the defense of the Germans - to deprive them of their officer leadership. Therefore, Rommel was later removed from command and another was appointed - Marshal Kluge. With an absolute superiority in "manpower" -3x, aviation -15x, careful preparation (General Rommel was bribed) - the allies were marking time, hoping for the Red Army. The Allies covered 600 km (from the landing site to the German border) in 6 months. Less than 2 km per day. The Red Army at this time passed 20 km per day in more severe conditions - there were the most combat-ready remnants of the German army.
19:19 Hard to hear what your say exactly, but Russia (not Soviet union) didn't invade Ukraine. Maybe supported the separatists (just like the west does everywhere including Ukrainian) Crimea originally belonged to Russia and was "gifted" to Ukraine by a USSR leader... Who was a Ukrainian, so...
Little nitpick, but the idea that the Russians didn't have enough guns or supplies to outfit all their soldiers is a long-disproven myth. It was propaganda created by the Nazis to demoralize the Allied powers that was then repurposed by the US for the cold war. In reality, the Soviets had more than enough guns, ammo and other supplies to fight the war. The main reason for the shocking losses came from the unpreparedness of the Soviets during the initial invasion, and the fact they basically spent the last 3 years of the war constantly attacking German defenses, which generally costs more casualties than defending does
Yeah, of course it did, I really don't understand the point. For the sake of presentation, clarity and workload it makes absolutely sense to reduce the numbers of shown countries.
they actually included Finland but pointed out like with many of the Nazis allied countries they suffered relatively lower losses compared to the other countries
@@GarioTheRock i did read it but as i said i find it weird that they didnt include it even tho they fought for 4 years and suffered more casualties than some other countries in the video. not to mention they werent even allies with germany for the whole war.
07:24 Bullshit they had everything they needed. Problem was Stalin's purges before Barbarosa and his obsessed power hunger. Not an actual people. Second thing Way more Nazi Troops died on the eastern front than it shows here, on top of that most of occupied countries and even territories inside Soviet Union fighting against soviets such as Baltic states, (Finland used an opportunity to expand it's territory lost in winter war against Soviet Union wich locked Leningrad from northern side) as well were fighting along side nazis on the eastern front. Basicly Hitler threw everything he could put his hands on to red army. Soviets had to regain ground they lost in 1941 and on top of that fight thier way to Berlin. And so they did.
you say it only because you dont know what "soldiers just like the rest" do to civilians and to prisoners. Ah, you must be american or european? Try check archives of people who being at war and what they saw, what tell them.
@@kraizmerentertainment2121 people like you disgust me. The Nazis won the vote by 37%. That's barely over a third of the population. You think the soldiers WANTED to exterminate families? No! They were driven crazy, deserted, committed suicide before they could carry out their orders. It was just war. They were fighting like any other nation. And I honestly cant tell if you were a troll when you said "their families were spared" what's wrong with you
there is this quote that perfectly sums the world war two ... "WWII was won with British intelligence, American steel and Russian blood"
Always reminds me of this quote form the HBO mini-series Chernobyl
"You'll do it because nobody else can. And if you don't, millions will die. If you tell me that's not enough I won't believe you. This is what has always set our people apart. A thousand years of sacrifice in our veins. And every generation must know its own suffering.”
- Boris Shcherbina, Chernobyl, Miniseries: Episode: "Please Remain Calm"
Also summed up by another quote: German and Japanese Soldiers killing Russian and Chinese civilians
Hey, let's not forget the Poles, who gave the Brits a crash course on the enigma code and also were great pilots defending England
Yes, Stalin's soldiers shed a lot of blood to reclaim half of Europe from the hands of the fascist regime, then seized these lands and locked the people behind the Iron Curtain for 45 years.
Half of Europe swapped one occupation for another, and we feel absolutely no gratitude towards the Russians.
@@adriannaszudrzynska9371 The Iron Curtain and the Soviet occupation of Europe was a heinous act and period
but the Russians historically are the most responsible for the Nazi defeat in the east
and they suffered tremendous causalities in doing so.
You are actors, so watch and react to " Come and See" , especially because it is 8th of May today. Thus you will understand what have people seen during the war.
That movie is a masterpiece.
>"we never had anything like this before."
>"This cant happen again".
WW1 aka The Great War aka The War to End All Wars wants to know your location.
I recon the survivors of it were saying the exact same thing. And here we go again.
Hopefully by learning this we can prevent anything like that happening again!
The video gives a good perspective and also puts our contribution to WWII in comparison to other countries. Not to belittle the sacrifices our country made, but we've really played down the role of the USSR/Russia in the war and how much more affected they were.
Absolutely true
It doesn't matter how many times I see that video. Every time it reaches the Soviet death count, it just...hurts. So much loss.
We in Russia say: "No one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten..."
I'm German and in EVERY family you had people that were killed or crippled or disfigured in the war as a soldier. Even if they came from rural areas that had not much war going on in daily life. Both my grandfathers survived, both were POW, one in France the other in the East. (Both were not in the Nazi party BTW)
I was born 1974 and these people were around. (Not my grandfathers, but still). And you had MILLIONS of people coming in from the East that fled death, torture and rape and experienced it. After the war they were in the neighborhood, in your house. Because of shortage of housing it was mandatory to take people in.
Other then the guilt that many or most Germans still have to this day, this death and devastation still runs in the collective and individual psyche. And that is all over Europe and I think this mindset and awe that is still present, when it comes to war, connects the Europeans, but even closer Germans with Russians, Poles and others from the East. I imagine I feel what they feel. Might sound strange, but it was SO major that it might have changed the genes. There is a darkness and depression around these peoples, that we share. But Soviets could cover this hurt with pride, while all Germans had was shame and guilt.
Nie wieder Krieg!
I'm Russian and let me tell you something(if you do not mind).
I don’t like how now in Russia, due to the political course, this “pride” arising from the superiority of the winner has increased. (And it was different at all early) I understand how much the Russian people paid a lot and I appreciate their sacrifice, but I absolutely don’t I like how politicians try to turn it into national superiority (it doesn't matter against whom). And although most people share my thoughts, some kind of nationalist movement of Russians (usually they are from 40-50 years old now) has appeared because of the propaganda that revels in the WW II as if it were not endless pain. And this is the worst modern thing, because I remember what my grandparents told me - that war is the worst thing that can happen and that it must be avoided at all costs. And this glorification of the past victory, from the point of view of superiority, is terrible.
When my grandmother was still alive, this did not happen, and my grandparents did not think so. There was no pride stemming from superiority.
My grandmother, she was 14, she carried the wounded from the fields, a nurse. Then she was returned to the rear, as she had a younger brother and sister without parents, and her brother was dying of hunger. And she could work at the factory and somehow take care of.
My grandfather stole some stuff (like chairs) and went to jail for 2 years. And he had to be released, he had half a year left. He did not have time to released before the war. When the war began, he was left to walk through the minefields without the right to refuse. Like if you stole the chairs then you deserve to walk on mines? It's so cruel. He returned with a shell shock, did not receive any awards and drank a lot, apparently to forget those horrors.
My great uncle was taken prisoner in Germany, one general chose him as a free labor force when he got to the camp and fortunately he returned alive. He was not treated badly (which was great luck for him). However, upon returning to Russia, he was deprived of any awards after the war "for betrayal" (by betrayal it was understood that he had to die but not be captured. just horror).
Another great-uncle ended up in a camp in Germany and a German girl saved him there, she fed him. They fell in love, got married and stayed in Germany, but he had children here in Russia and he could not return because he would also fall under the article "betrayal" and go to prison. And when these articles "for betrayal" were finally canceled, he was able to return to his children and wanted to take them to Germany to a new family. But the family was irreparably destroyed because the children believed that he abandoned them. And he returned to Germany without his children.
All this is sheer impenetrable horror. How the war ruined lives and how the consequences has lingered to this day, how that suffocating aura of depression is still with us. And we Russians and Germans understand this pain well. Сause so many lives have been destroyed.
But the Germans really still bear an unbearable granite slab of guilt. And I don't blame the Germans who weren't Nazis. And the generation born after the war.
And I do not want to be proud, but I recognize the sacrifices that were made by Russia with great respect. Like all the sacrifices that were made to stop Nazism, but the price that everyone paid is horrendous.
I know that the Germans also suffered, and I know that many were the same people who got into the events and did not have much choice. I know that not everyone was a Nazi. This is all terrible nationalist propaganda that pushed people to war.
And I don't hate the Germans and I believe that those who themselves did nothing wrong should not be accused of other people's sins. I am horrified at how politicians disposed of the lives of ordinary people. And I think I understand what it's like to live under the rule of a regime that does terrible things and you, cannot fix it even if you are trying. I know that many Germans did not want to participate in WW II.
I share the pain of all the people who suffered in the WW II and its consequences. This pain that doesn't go away, but also a memory that we carry to avoid repetition.
With our Russian politicians, I'm not sure what awaits us now, it feels like they are not learning their lessons. But as before, I, as a simple person under a totalitarian "democracy", do not know how to fix this.
I am sincerely sorry that you suffered from the consequences of the WW II. I just want to say that this burden that we bear is divided between Russians and Germans and other peoples.
I have no hatred in my heart for Germany and the Germans, and I extend my hand to you for support, because I know that this pain is terrible and so heavy.❤🔥
@@netsardin4019 Thank you very much for your answer. I appreciate it very much. For further conversation - I'm available :)
@@andreasrademacher5715 Thank you so much too! 😊 I can say the same about the conversation.
Also thank you for answering. It was really valuable🙂
This can be understood by those who have absorbed the price of this victory with the blood of their ancestors. When there is no family in the country where there are no dead or injured, maimed. When your country is in ruins, and the women and cripples who came from the war had to restore it. The war claimed 27,000,000 lives, including about 10,000 soldiers. To this day, our lands are littered with the bones of the dead, who are found and solemnly buried. What kind of war I know from the stories of my grandmother and mother, who was 7 years old. They were held captive by the Germans for about three months. And it is disgusting to see how history is being rewritten, withholding the merits of the peoples of the USSR.
To be fair to other countries, we were never told ANYTHING that was happening in the east. Then the iron curtain fell.
Слава советскому солдату-освободителю! Ура, товарищи!
Тебе не кажется, что под таким видео этот комментарий слишком восторженный, что ли. Какое ура, когда речь идёт о гибели десятков миллионов наших людей???
@@user-yc5bh6rd6s не мы пришли к ним с войной.
@@user-ct4jx4ui6z Разве речь об этом? Видео о потерях в войне. Если бы видео было о победе в войне кричать "ура" уместно, а если о погибших- не очень, по-моему
Заебись освободители, ага.
@@dirzz сомнения?
When the video was on the military death count you could here the sound of feet marching that represented all those soldiers marching into battle. For me it added the devastating knowledge of how many soldiers from all countries were marching to their deaths for the war. It's scary to think about visualizing yourself as a young soldier marching with his troops while seeing the battles in the distance and destroyed cities/towns. Looking at the soldiers next to you looking forward with determination while also seeing they too know that their chances of surviving were slim. Especially if you knew a lot of the soldiers as friends/brothers/allies. It really brings home the morbid realities the soldiers had to face when marching into battle and accepting it. It chills me to the core to think about that. I hope you all have a wonderful day and I wish you all peace and happiness
Its mind boggling how much of a disaster was Stalingrad on the Eastern front..
What the American, Canadians, french and british did in 4 years, The germans amd russians did in just 6 months, terrifying how only 6000 germans survived, out of 600,000 german soldiers
Thank you for your sincere reaction.
My grandpa was telling me that they were gaving 1 gun to each 5th soldier in Soviets. There was no supply literally. They were like a fucking meat going in front without gun.
I'm from Germany and all I can say is that we are so sorry for everything what happened in the past... 😢🇩🇪❤️🌍
The problem was, that we had to join the Nazis, if we hadn't done it, they would've killed us and our families! 😥
Germany has definitely changed, every single German carries so much guilt from the past! All we want is peace and I really hope that something like WW2 will *NEVER* happen again!
Fascism can be good when it's not Nazism.
You don't have to be sorry, you weren't involved and didn't commit atrocities. Don't be sorry for the mistakes of others and something that you don't agree with or didn't take part in.
All you want is a peace. And to send Leopards to Ukraine.
One of my favorite videos to see reactions from, from both veterans and civilians. It's not exactly a happy video, but its a good one educationally. War ain't fun, but in 2 tours in Iraq, my Troop only had one KIA. Civilians were provided with aid, free pop up clinics in the area. In our age, you could say "I'll catch you later" with a certain degree of confidence.
Thank you.
During the siege of Leningrad, its inhabitants knew that there was only one way to find meat.
React to Roy Benavidez! Both his live speech and the animation of his greatness🤗
Loved your reactions! I highly recommend the movie, “Hacksaw Ridge”. It’s about a medic that would not carry nor use a gun. Well worth watching!
There are still 1.2 million slaves in China.
There are still over 12,000,000 slaves in Africa.
1,000,000 slaves in Eastern Europe.
We still have ways to go, have to stop conceding to China and other dictatorships. Think of the midflr east and how many atrocities are committed on a daily basis.
The big 44 powers need to teach the rest of the world better.
I was in 1 camp bergen belsen
There was almost nothing there left standing except for a monument and a museum
But it felt really off to walk there it felt like i was being watched by the dead
~Homeworld game series cinematic and storytelling is on par to Blizzard game..please react to that game, its very good
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Remember and pass on to descendants that 80 years ago, superheroes from Russian villages stood under the red flag to voluntarily go to the meat grinder, to give their lives and hopes for the future to a bloody and cruel massacre, so that today your children would not have their skulls measured to make sure that they deserve to live ...
What a lot of people don't realize about the battle of Okinawa and why that number of deaths is so startling. Is the fact it's an island that's only 881 square miles. For the creators of this video, that's only 3 times the square mileage of the city of Chicago.
I love that book!!!
For some reason, every country is ashamed of certain pages of history. But not the USA that dropped nuclear bombs
Why is this video like 4 times on this channel ?
The most heartbreaking thing about this war was the bloodlines that were ended.😔
Жалко нет русских субтитров, но лайк поставила
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz вот зайдите и посмотрите, какие автоматически созданы. Прежде, чем писать! А английский да не знаю, я в школе и университете немецкий учила.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz но мне это уже не надо. Посмотрела с переводом.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz спасибо попробую! На счёт языка вы молодец 👍 Мне видимо языки сложнее даются, конечно что то уже понимаю, но нет до знания ещё далеко. Чтобы выучить песню мне нужно время и читаю ещё с ошибками, поэтому слушаю произношение исполнителей запоминаю.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz нет функции Перевести, написано Английский создан автоматически или отключить субтитры. Всё! Как я понимаю, эту функцию владелец канала должен включить.
@@Evil_Polski_Husarz эта функция в каких-то видео есть, а в этом нет 🤷
Peace is only an interlude between two wars
There is a similar video about WW1.
Stalin had young men to spare.......“A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.”
― Joseph Stalin
The Soviet soldier had been fighting for three years and was very weak, but he defeated a German soldier who was lying bloody and could no longer get up. At that moment American and British soldiers came up, kicked the German and exclaimed, "Victory is ours!"
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
06:34 Yes we have some numbers WWII fallen 70 million ... UK poplation now 67,7 million.
Reading some of these comments made me feel like...I don’t know, imagine donating lots of blood and then couple of days later someone who needed it just shits all over you.
History’s a bitch, there’re no ideal countries here on Earth, but I’m astonished by this never-ending hatred towards russian people.
Well, maybe our grandads should’ve just gave up and let the whole world turn to dust :)
400 usa soldiers world war II, american citizens Covid 724 . that's why the united nations (UN) was formed in October 1945, because of WWII,,, with the intent to prevent such a scale of war as this ever again ....the UN replaced an earlier version of this called the (league of nations 1919) formed to to ensure a lasting peace
I live in Alabama, and my niece is 11 years old. I showed her this video and she told me she still doesn't quite get just how to imagine 70 million people, so I told her to look at it this way. The numbers are hotly disputed and are much more likely between 75 to 85 million people. Now imagine you woke up tomorrow to find out that every single person in all of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas were dead. Your family, your friends, every stranger you've ever met, ever face you've ever seen, all dead. You were the only one left alive in a sea of death for hundreds of miles in every direction. That was the cost of World War 2.
искажение фактов при упоминании Советского Союза.... и это понятно... как бы совсем чуть чуть негатива, а у зрителя остаётся в памяти... противно все это.
Расчет на то, что за эмоциями информация проскочит и останется, "ложечки нашлись, а осадок остался".
А что не было отказов проводить эвакуацию гражданских из городов, оказавшихся на линии фронта? Я не либерал, а как раз наоборот, но преступлений сталинского режима против собственного народа отрицать невозможно и преступно.
искажение фактов? скорее слишком мало негатива.
@@dirzz да там негатива на каждого найдётся, стоило бы поглубже вопрос показать, но тут видео про статистику -_-
@@user-yc5bh6rd6s ну если ты это называешь преступлениями, то какой же ты нелиберал?
For what I understand war in Ukraine wasn't count as war between Ukrainian countries because officially it's a civil war
Hey, you can watch:
Артём Гришанов - Мир спас русский солдат / Russian soldier saved the world / World War 2
Do you wonder why people get so angry when the term nazi is used to politicise an argument?
I watch out to reactors to realize the time that is ticking at the end of the video. The speaker - therefore Neil Halloran - points out, that now is the time for discissions to make which would ensure peace. The zoomed in time is Novembre, 8th 2016 around 09:07 am - that was the day when the US could have made such a discission. On that specific day USA elected Trump - not that wise to prevent wars I would think, but I am only a german guy.
From the netherlands.... Thanks Russian.
8.7 миллионов только солдат, а сколько мирного населения... 27миллионов человек погибло в Советском Союзе в войне, а сколько пропало без вести... До сих пор отказывают останки той войны, ещё ржете, как кони, что парад каждый год проводим 9 мая, это парад победы, а не демонстрация силы
i am iranian and i say no to war
Unfortunately history does repeat itself the remilitarization of Mainland Europe is a modern echo of one the leading causalities of WW1 the arming of modernization of allied militaries that were then dragged into a global war because of alliances including Serbia and others that when threatened have the governments of Europe the excuse to go test the militaries on each other. Despite all auspices throughout history it looks like we're heading straight towards ww3. Also remember there was a significant time of peace prior to WW1 as well
СССР и нациская германия розвизали вторую мировую войну розделом польши в1939г
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If we could get WW1 to have accurate death numbers… I’d say WW1 would have us hold its beer!
@Benjamin Sigouin That’s what was reported. But recordkeeping was terrible back then so I won’t be surprised at the number is way higher
Вот правда о второй мировой czcams.com/video/vIAFJ7QIU7k/video.html
Жалко нет английских субтитров.
У тебя 2 лайка на публикацию, ставлю свой, Ютуб отображает три и тут же оставляет опять 2 но уже типо вместе с моим. Мухлеж какой-то😤
@@syu3334 я поставил, опять. Теперь три лайка
What’s the Russian translation of ‘cannon fodder’?
Пушечное мясо. (cannon meat to be exact)
I belive one reason for this video is to teach Americans the perspective of ww2. Often, Americans believe US changed the war (winning the war), while they only played a minor part of it in the European theatre. Germany was allready on a retreat when US entered Europe, and Soviet hardly get any cred for all their efforts, nor do all the smaller European nations.
Yea its mainly due to films. There isn't alot of films about the Russian front. Or (to my knowledge) much about what the British did in Africa. Its sad how people forget about the sacrifice other countries did.
That's not true. The Soviets and Brits would be fighting hand to hand combat without US lend-lease. The US played a major role in the war.
@@TheCapn23 no
Oh....and forgot the US largely fought the Japanese alone in the Pacific. The Russian effort was paid in blood like no other country but many played their part.
War is a really bad idea..
@DANIEL BIN OMAR - wtf?
@@ilyanizhnik6874 what?
@@JMZReview I'm interested why he thinks it was necessary for Germany to make a war. Or to involve Russia in it.
Only deads have seen the end of war
19:20 This takes place after the Russia's invasion of the Ukraine, I suspect it was excluded because it is called an annexation rather than a war.
Invasion? Lol
I would say it’s a civilian conflict with foreign intervention like it was during Russian revolution.
what `stuck out to me', as you say, as in the category of the death count, it did not mention those who committed suicide. such as those in the asian theater section. what was not mentioned was when the u.s. landed on the phillipines over on the island of saipan, is that during the battle, there were civilians that were literally jumping off cliffs and committing suicide. it was not just the men, the women would grab a hold of their children and pull them down with them.
Спасибо всему Советскому народу и товарищу Сталину в частности, за эту победу!!! Советская власть за 24 года (1917-1941) сумела подготовить страну к этой войне!!! "После моей смерти на мою могилу нанесут кучу мусора, но ветер истории безжалостно развеет её" И.В. Сталин.
ты в порядке, братан?
Не сумела них... я. Мы победили только благодаря самоотверженности простых солдат, ни о какой тактике, подготовке, таланте военочальников (70% которых были репрессированы этим же Сталиным) речи не идёт
@@vanek2793 глупость.
@@wilsonsaka-san4316 3 из 4 маршалов СССР было репресировано. Просто факт в пример
@@vanek2793 глупость в том, что ты отвергаешь вообще всю значимость руководство. Репрессии репрессиями, но зачем же до идиотизма доходить?
Katyn Massacre was made by Soviets, not Germans
It's strange how Soviet war crimes aren't discussed as much their German counter parts.
Touching one point, this explains why Russia totally went insular after world War 2. It also explains why they tried to create a kind of buffer zone of countries around them. The cold war between USA and USSR went on simply because the USA had no conceptual idea of the sufferings of Russia, they reacted and still react the way they do because of the utter horror they experienced. Times will change but it's really not that long in the scheme of things since 1945.
There were many factors that increased the soviet casualties
1. The Russian army wasn’t fully mobilized for the modern warfare:
the Russians at the time were still using horses and inadequate weaponry and equipment compared to the modern times, barely any of their army had been updated since the first world war, they also didn’t have a lot of equipment ready to go
Stalin had always known that the germans planned to double cross them, his non-aggression pact with germany was merely a strategic plan to buy the USSR time to prepare
and as he perceived that the germans would betray them Stalin made preparations to prepare to battle the nazis later on, but he miscalculated when, not expecting Hitler to invade so quickly (which may have resulted from the german's failed African campaign and loss of nazis access to African oilfields) and so the Russian army hadn’t been readied for war by the time of the german invasion
Stalin had also mass purged the army and government years before that point, leading to a giant decline in experienced and capable officers and leadership
meaning many of the generals and planners of the war were inexperienced, which led to many blunders, poor planning and heavy losses.
2. Scorch earth policy:
As is the Russian custom when invaded, the soviets retreated back into Russia drawing the germans further in,
they destroyed crops, farms, oil reserves and train lines to prevent them being used or acquired by the nazis
while this would harm and increase logistical problems for the invaders
it also destroyed the Russian's food, resources and more importantly their most effective means of transportation especially of troops and equipment
In fact Stalin held off on food for the people reserving it instead for the army, that and other logistical problems ensured lots of famine and poor conditions for civilians and soldiers alike which produced much hardship and loss of its own.
The other issue was that the Russians could not match the Nazis. The germans had mechanized divisions of tanks and vehicles like cars, trucks, and motorbikes that could carry them great distances at quick speeds
as well their air forces could do supply drops as they dominated the Russian sky
the Russians couldn’t mobilize as fast them, in fact the one thing that saved Russia was the lend lease policy with the states, especially the use of vehicles
which later gave the soviets the mobilization they needed to take the fight to the germans and push them out.
3. No surrender policy:
Stalin imposed a mandatory rule of no surrender, meaning that all units were expected and required to fight to decimation (extinction)
Millions of russians were forced to literally be butchered and were not allowed to retreat or fall back
anyone who was caught and or found to have retreated by the soviet army or KGB/state police
we’re executed.
Many commissar commanders would literally force unarmed and inexperienced soldiers to literally attack fortified lines with machine guns pointed at their backs
the other issue was because every unit was expected to fight to the last man, survivors were little
meaning there was no build up of experienced soldiers, meaning every new battle and new battalion was green recruits and rookies not prepared to face off against the elite SS forces
it was only later during the war as the soviets slowly had more success and victories that experienced units and battle hardened forces were built up
4. Nazis brutality:
The germans had long viewed the east especially Russia with much contempt, it was believed by those in central Europe that the east was a place of heathens and was inferior and unclean
much hatred and disgust was thrown towards eastern Europe, as such hitler and the nazis saw Russians, slavs and other eastern people’s as little more useful then for slave labour and or cannon fodder
as such the Nazis invasion and occupation of Russia was a giant case of ethnic cleansing
The sixth army would roll through, then special execution squads would follow, moping up and exterminating the leftover populace in mass executions and attacks, often filling mass graves,
the germans also used the east as a place to test their genocide plans, such as mass firing squads of women and children and innocent civilians
this proved a failure because too many soldiers began to have ptsd and or mass psychological issues
so they instead went with gas, using outfitted trucks that would slowly gas the inhabitants to death
but word soon got out about the nature of these “gas” trucks and the civilians would riot and fight back
these methods were all part of the planning process that later evolved into the concentration camps and the “effective” efficient methods that were developed to bring about mass genocide
especially the importance of secrecy, hence why the camps, showers and etc were built to be deceiving intuitionally to preserve the actual nature of the death camps.
As well the nazis participated in mass terrorism against civilians, rape, thievery and forced starvation
and because of their hatred of communist and the Russian and slavs in general, the Nazis would often kill commissars on sight and soviet soldiers were mass murdered intentionally by beatings, executions, mass forced marches, famine, disease, and deplorable conditions meant to cause their deaths.
this is one reason the Russians took much glee and much pride when the time came to return the favor to the germans
Good comment. The only thing I would correct is that all countries were still using horses, including Germany. Actually it was proven that horses were more effective as scouts than motorcycles in the east where roads still weren't harden.
In first day invasion about 3000 planes were destroyed by nazi
@@Krokmaniak Thank you for that correction, it’s important to remember.
A good chunk of what you said is kinda BS. The soviets had equal if not better tech at the start of the invasion (Germany used more horses as a percentage of their army and was the least mechanized by far when compared to all of the major allies (France, USSR, UK, US), and were outnumbered during the initial invasion due to Stalin not expecting the Germans to attack while having the majority of the red army in position to defend against the Japanese. This is on top of them being invaded by the Germans, Italians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Finnish, and Romanians, so until the main forces of the Red army got back across Siberia the Soviets were outnumbered.
The point you make about the soviets not being able to match the soviets in production is by far the most wrong out of everything you said. Just looking at tank production, one can see that the soviets outproduced the Germans in almost every way. The "One man gets a rifle, the other gets ammo" never happened. The only incident similar was when a regiment near Stalingrad didn't receive their supplies due to a slight delay in logistics. Instead of sending the guys out without guns, the soviets held them back until their supplies got there. No unit of the red army, not including militias who were not technically part of the red army, charged machineguns without weapons. That is a myth written by German generals make themselves look better.
The soviet manpower advantage wasn't that they had massive untrained troop reserves to throw at the "elite" Nazis, but instead had trained reservists from the interwar period due to how soviet conscription worked and the Nazis did not. This meant that the soviets could replace their losses much faster than the Nazis could as the reservists did not have to be fully trained from scratch like the Germans did. The "elite" Nazi soldiers you mention spent most of the war massacring civilians behind their own lines and when they went into actual combat they were absolutely slaughtered (looking at you, dirwangers, and your 400% casualty rate).
Your whole 3rd point is complete bull. The "Not one step back" policy that is so famous is generally completely misrepresented, as the full order talks about how it was not for the regular troops, but for officers instead. Generally speaking, if the unit pulled back without reason (which was a problem in the early war, with the specific incident that made stalin issue the order being that an entire army abandoned a city, letting the germans take it with little to no resistance. This of course leading to unnecessary casualties due to stranding units that didn't run when it occurred elsewhere) they were stopped and told to go back to their positions. The officer of the unit was punished if he did not comply (with the usual punishment being Penal Battalion), not the regular troops who were just sent back to their original position.
Your 4th point is spot on. ~3 million of the soviet casualties are from the treatment or massacre of Soviet POWs by the Nazis because they threw soviet POWs in the camps with the other "undesirables", the dirwangers I mentioned earlier got famous for raping their way across Belarus, and clubbing 500 polish schoolchildren to death with their guns to save ammo during the Warsaw Uprising.
edit: At their peak, only about 20~ of the german army was mechanized, the rest was horsedrawn or used bicycles. I cannot find any specific number for the Soviets other than said sources saying the vast majority of their logistics was motorized using lend lease trucks
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1. While horses were used on par, the Germans invasion under Barbossa involved specifically their favored tactic of blitzkrieg
which involved tanks, mechanized infantry and mechanized mobilized forces supported by massive waves of air support
which is why the Invasion of russia had the germans get pretty far until the winter stalled them in 1941,
After that it became a slog match that the germans had advantage of (at high cost) until Stalingrad where the tide turned.
As for the idea they had equal or better equipment
in some cases yes, but the soviets logistical operations were abysmal and terrible, and often or not there was not enough equipment like long radios and or
when they truly needed to get full supplies out there such as when Stlain realized he had forced too many of his forces to decimation that there was no armies between the germans forward divisions and Moscow and had the Mozhask defensive line formed
it could be done, but the reason for that was because Stlain personally saw supplies diverted and saw to them being fully armed, and he was famous for having "incompetents” shot for failures.
The logistical information of operation typhoon for example is famously recorded as having the germans not only outnumber the soviets in manpower but various equipment as well.
the soviets being outnumbered wasn’t the problem, the problem was the poor leadership, inexperienced commanders, wasted tank forces and defenses unable to contend or hold abasing german tactics and tanks
if not for Zhukov and the battle of Moscow it is doubtful the soviets would have survived.
2. I never said the soviets couldn’t match the germans in terms of production
i said they couldn't match the germans in terms of mobilization, since they had destroyed their train lines and the spring turned the roads into sludge which bogged down both german and russian tanks and etc.
and it is historical fact that the most valued part of the lend lease with russia from the states were mobilized vehicles.
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3. While i do believe that there were trained reservists, those reservists were quickly spent
most soviet forces in the first 2 years of the war especially up to the battle of Moscow etc. were massacred or captured by the germans, and no significant veteran troops were allowed to form
and Yes the no retreat order applied to commanders
who were denied the ability to fall back or regroup which did end up in their forces being wiped out to decimation, or encircled and reduced until they either were dead or surrendered
The government sent out many orders especially one on October 13th of 1941 detailing the level of punishment for any “traitors" who fled, retreated and or allowed equipment to fall into german hands
and Stalin;s order 270:
"required encircled soldiers to use every possibility to fight on, and to demand that their commanders fight on and organize resistance to the enemy."
"Anyone attempting to surrender instead of fighting on must be destroyed and their family members deprived of any state welfare and assistance. The order also required division commanders to demote and, if necessary, even to shoot on the spot those commanders who failed to command a battle directly in the battlefield."
"There are no Soviet prisoners of war, only traitors.”
russian soldiers were not allowed to retreat without orders, orders that Stalin refused on numerous recorded occasions to give his commanders which meant they were wiped out
and had they disobeyed orders of their commanders and retreated, they would be executed or arrested as deserters and or for defying orders
the most famous being stalin's orders to Konev to not pull back which allowed the germans to trap the soviet armies in the “cauldrons”
and led to the complete massacre of the soviet 43rd army and the encirclement of the 20th and 24th, the 3rd, 14th and 50th all of which were either reed ned until they were dead, or surrendered, those ho escaped were lucky and few.
Also the russians viewed any soldier who escaped as being the same as traitors,
mot escapee Russians officer or not were interrogated by the NKVD, and anyone who the NKVD didn’t like or believe were sent to Siberia and gulags which was basically itself a death sentence from harsh and deportable conditions.
The point being Stalin's refusal to allow retreat caused mass extinction of entire soviet armies, which hindered troop quality, experience and or the build up of veteran forces
and the soviets viewed any soldier or officer who retreated, fled and or didn’t fight to the death as possibly traitors, cowards and with distrust and hatred,
Because of this the army’s efficiency and ability was hampered longer than it should have
Soviet tank crews for example were notoriously inexperienced, often forgetting to turn on fans to keep the fumes and heat of the tanks from causing mass illness and issues among the crewman
and tank commanders on many occasions wasted their tank forces potential with terrible orders and or strategy.
as for elite nazis forces, my main point was that the majority of the german legions including SS divisions, some of their best commanders, and their best troops were sent to the eastern front
In fact, the USSR lost many more civilians than soldiers. The total losses of the USSR amounted to 27 million people, and only 11 million of them were military, the remaining 16 million were civilians. And in general, the casualty figures were completely different, Germany lost more than 8 million people on the eastern front.
The words that Stalin forbade evacuation from the Leningrad region are a lie. Read about the "Road of Life", this highway through Lake Ladoga, medicines, weapons and ammunition were delivered to the city along with food, and people were evacuated from the city along it. More than 1.3 million people, mostly women and children, were evacuated by road during the blockade. So don't believe this lie.
American tanks and British intelligence clearly "showed" themselves on D-Day.
Rommel is a different story. The day before the landing, he left for Berlin. The occasion is far-fetched - his wife's birthday. He also summoned to Germany the entire senior officers of the 7th Army (defense of Normandy) to his headquarters in Germany for a meeting. All this was done in order to weaken the defense of the Germans - to deprive them of their officer leadership. Therefore, Rommel was later removed from command and another was appointed - Marshal Kluge.
With an absolute superiority in "manpower" -3x, aviation -15x, careful preparation (General Rommel was bribed) - the allies were marking time, hoping for the Red Army.
The Allies covered 600 km (from the landing site to the German border) in 6 months. Less than 2 km per day.
The Red Army at this time passed 20 km per day in more severe conditions - there were the most combat-ready remnants of the German army.
Fourth my boys
I dont give a fuck
Did yall just call the ukraine russia conflict?
second my boys
Honestly, idgaf
@@JMZReview you still gave enough fucks to reply.
@@infamous_richard8732
"You still cared enough--"
No... I need more cussing!
"You still gave enough fucks"
Ahh. Much better.
19:19 Hard to hear what your say exactly, but Russia (not Soviet union) didn't invade Ukraine.
Maybe supported the separatists (just like the west does everywhere including Ukrainian)
Crimea originally belonged to Russia and was "gifted" to Ukraine by a USSR leader... Who was a Ukrainian, so...
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@@JMZReview Didnt ask for any input, but no worries
@@OrigionalCigarette hm it seems you DID actually, otherwise you wouldnt have posted it now would you have
@@JMZReview I don't know when "First my boys" was a question
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Little nitpick, but the idea that the Russians didn't have enough guns or supplies to outfit all their soldiers is a long-disproven myth. It was propaganda created by the Nazis to demoralize the Allied powers that was then repurposed by the US for the cold war.
In reality, the Soviets had more than enough guns, ammo and other supplies to fight the war. The main reason for the shocking losses came from the unpreparedness of the Soviets during the initial invasion, and the fact they basically spent the last 3 years of the war constantly attacking German defenses, which generally costs more casualties than defending does
never really liked the video, left so many coutnries out like finland for example.
Yeah, of course it did, I really don't understand the point. For the sake of presentation, clarity and workload it makes absolutely sense to reduce the numbers of shown countries.
they actually included Finland but pointed out like with many of the Nazis allied countries they suffered relatively lower losses compared to the other countries
@@Nyj yet it shows countries with less deaths than finland.
@@Alexandros.Mograine Read the comment above yours.
@@GarioTheRock i did read it but as i said i find it weird that they didnt include it even tho they fought for 4 years and suffered more casualties than some other countries in the video. not to mention they werent even allies with germany for the whole war.
19 mil soviets civilians and 8.3 mil Soviet’s died in prisoner of war camps and 5.3 mil died in action. About 5.3 mil German soldier died
07:24 Bullshit they had everything they needed. Problem was Stalin's purges before Barbarosa and his obsessed power hunger. Not an actual people. Second thing Way more Nazi Troops died on the eastern front than it shows here, on top of that most of occupied countries and even territories inside Soviet Union fighting against soviets such as Baltic states, (Finland used an opportunity to expand it's territory lost in winter war against Soviet Union wich locked Leningrad from northern side) as well were fighting along side nazis on the eastern front. Basicly Hitler threw everything he could put his hands on to red army. Soviets had to regain ground they lost in 1941 and on top of that fight thier way to Berlin. And so they did.
It annoys me how he calls them nazis. They were soldiers just like the rest. Not evil.
Not true they not were soldiers...they war criminals ...and yes nazis and yes evil
@@slamyourheadin9449 lmao mask off much fash?
you say it only because you dont know what "soldiers just like the rest" do to civilians and to prisoners. Ah, you must be american or european? Try check archives of people who being at war and what they saw, what tell them.
@@nightyonetwothree are you talking to me bud?
@@kraizmerentertainment2121 people like you disgust me. The Nazis won the vote by 37%. That's barely over a third of the population. You think the soldiers WANTED to exterminate families? No! They were driven crazy, deserted, committed suicide before they could carry out their orders.
It was just war. They were fighting like any other nation. And I honestly cant tell if you were a troll when you said "their families were spared" what's wrong with you
They joined at the end so your help was worth nothing.