Neil Halloran - The Fallen of World War II (REACTION)
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"Peace is a difficult thing to measure, it's like counting the people that didn't die in wars that never happened" Always hits me hard for some reason
One of the saddest things is that entire family trees were gone. That's why there is so much guessing with the number of victims. Records were not in computers or the cloud then. Entire family trees were wiped out and all records (in paper) were destroyed. No telling how many entire families were just erased from existence...
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Keep in mind, even after nations surrendered, the soldiers that were left and weren’t captured, along with a good amount of civilians, fought for their country, to try and drive back the invading forces, all for their homeland, loved ones, and future for their peoples children.
Denmark didn’t see that much action pre-surrender because they lasted just 2 hours.
6 hours, not 2
@@rarescevei8268the government surrendered in 2 hours the soldiers fought a bit longer
Denmark also put up one of the best fights while under occupation. Reporting German troop movements to the British and Americans, disrupting communication lines and harboring Jews, Romani, Slavs at the risk of their own necks. Many made it across to neutral Sweden to escape the unimaginable. 🇩🇰
Only 77 Danish jews died in the holocaust. Presumably there were thousands if not tens of thousands.
@@Painter3 Thank you for pointing this out. I was indeed referring to when the government surrendered.
It's insane that all through our schooling, we were taught that WE defeated Germany in the war. WE! US! AMERICA! It's toxic patriotism like that that divides us even further. Give the Soviet Union credit where credit is due!
You don't have to react to it, but World War II in 39 minutes is another powerful video I definitely recommend! It includes all the speeches and footage.
Lol. Even the Soviets begrudgingly admitted that American lend-lease is what made their victory possible. The amount of resources the US sent them is absolutely mind-boggling, especially if you read into just how much was going on with American industry at the time.
@@Nyx_2142 Nice try, and yes of course countries supported each other. But no other country gave as much in BLOOD as the USSR did. And that's a FACT.
@@Nyx_2142Посмотрите процент помощи от общего производства самими Советами, и вы поймёте, что помощь была небольшой. Советы признательны любой помощи, даже небольшой, но победа состоялась бы в любом случае, и самостоятельно, может быть на месяцы позже, может быть потери были бы чуть больше. Этого мы уже никогда не узнаем. Но из всей помощи, часть была неуместной, по незнанию, например танки, самоходки, не приспособленные к сложным погодным и дорожным условиям, из-за чего техника быстро ломалась, даже не дойдя до фронта или вязла в грязи. Были коллизии. Также определенный керосин под определенную технику надо было доставлять, что вело к определенным проблемам. Очень много техники по пути доставки тонуло с транспортниками, которые топили войска противника. Вы почему-то помощью называете "Лендлиз", что по своей сути являющегося кредитом. А у нас помощью назвали всегда действие на безвозмездной основе. У нас с западом даже понимание смысла разное. Если кто-то зарабатывает на беде другого, это не помощь, это скотство. Это низкое действие
@@davidhutchinson5233thats not the point thoe. Germany fell easier when America joined Germany could fight a two front war even if they didnt want to now ethier they would've won doing that is questionable but it would've probably took them longer. Its the same thing with ww1 it didn't end until we got involved if America didnt get involved it would've probably lasted longer its not saying WE beat them we were just that big factor in the war plus u have to think that was the second world war we basically got dragged into. Ww1 we were attacked and britain intercepted a letter and sent it to the president at the time it was Germany saying if they would attack America they would give Mexico the land back that we had took from them in the American and Mexican war. Which got us involved in ww1 Germany probably could've won ww1 if we didn't get into it or it wouldve just been a long ass stale made which it technically was anyways cuz hitler came to power. Germany took over the majority of Europe with ease dude Britain and russia could've held there own but theres no telling out it would've turned out if we didn't jump in so yeah we beat them an when we say we we mean us an our allies at the time. An russia was some what a friend during ww2 u gotta think about war its like fighting anything will happen and can happen. The war could've went ethier way if America didnt jumped in but we did so yeah we gonna take credit for that because Europe was basically a f****** slaughtering ground for the nazis americans came it was still one but it became more of a even playing field. Because let's be honest Hitler probably told his army to let his boys go f****** wild😂 an we all know Britain wont gonna do it they was cleaning up their for the world stage Americans we didnt care we just wanted to be left alone until we got fucked with. U imagine how pissed us soldiers were? We got sucker punched so we wanted to destroy shit an it worked it won the war
@@scottbivins4758 Wow, the apologists are out in force. Lookit, the facts speak for themselves. We in the west faced what? 59 German divisions? And that took just about EVERYTHING we had. When you consider that the Red Army faced over 150 German divisions, actually closer to 160 you begin to understand why the USSR hated Germany for so many years. That's why it was such a big deal in 1990, when the USSR fell, the Scorpions played in Moscow. THAT was powerful. A German rock band playing for the grand children of the Red Army soldiers. That was epic.
The thing is, you can most likely find the military records of each individual, it takes a long time, and a lot of work, but it’s possible. Of course, we’ll most likely never know the true scale of the fallen.
The reason for Germany not losing much at the start was not only because of technology, but also a change of strategy, its easier to understand when you remember that germany was one of those who lost in the 1st world war.
One of my favourite all time videos, such amazing graphics, he has a great one on nuclear weapons too!
One of the reasons the ratios for germany were so good in the beginning of the war, were due to the tactics used by Germany, they were revolutionairy at the time, and they were extremely well equipped compared to the countries they were fighting, this changed later on in the war, which is why the ratio gets worse and worse as time goes on.
Meh. It's a decent video but he purposely misrepresentations several numbers for an agenda. Especially the Japanese civilian deaths. It is widely accepted that the firebombing of Tokyo ALONE was more deadly than both atomic bombs combined. And was far more devastating for infrastructure. That isn't even including the other cities being firebombed or the conventional bombing. But his numbers would have you believe otherwise. If he is willing to lie about that, he is willing to lie about other things.
tactics, yes, more well equipped..... not so much. they were certainly more well equipped than some of the smaller countries that got invaded. but compared to the polish (who began a massive modernization and expansion program in 1936) and the french (who's only major equipment issues were surrounding a lack of motorized reconaissance and communications), the germans should have been outmatched by equipment and manpower alone. heck, the french actually had a more well developed tank corps, despite germany being known for their tank tactics and the blitzkrieg.
My Great Grandfather and Great Uncle both survived WWII both passed away after I was born so I got to hear a few war stories from them but it was mostly my Great Uncle that told the war stories at our family reunions.
My Great Grandfather passed away in 1999 he was in the USAAF now know as the Air Force fighting the Germans in Italy.
My Great Uncle passed away in 2011 he was in the Navy on a minesweeper ship as a radio operator in the Pacific fighting the Japanese.
Had a few family members fight in WWII and even WWI. In WWI, my great great uncle was a messenger who rode on horseback to deliver important messages to different commanders. Being a messenger painted a huge target on your back, but he managed to survive the war.
I recommend watching the multi-part American-Soviet film "The Unknown War", which was shot 50 years ago and is now almost forgotten, but there is still an opportunity to watch both the English and Russian versions on CZcams. This series tells in detail about the Eastern Front (the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945).
5:30 One word is how the ratio difference was so big. Surprise. Blitzkrieg shocked folks with how fast and how devastating it was. Often times we think technology and numbers are the deciding factors in battle. The fancy piece of tech is worth less than a stone picked up off the ground if you don't know how to use it. Doctrine, tactics, and coordination between areas of command proved this to the world.
For example French Char-B1s were better armored (40-60mm vs 5-15mm) and armed (47mm vs 20mm) than their German counterparts such as the Panzer I and IIs that were primarily used to invade. But flanking maneuvers and speed won Rommel and other German commanders the day.
7:00 We in America like to think it was our intervention that won the war. That's only true in terms of material goods production and export imo. This is not to say that the G.I.s did poorly or failed to help. On the contrary us splitting the attention of Hitler with the Allies at the naval invasions of Normandy and Italy greatly reduced the strain on the Russians.
Truly though, the spine of the German army was broken in Russia. Much like a bullet is stopped by many many layers of Kevlar, Moscow was protected by many many MANY layers of bodies.
The subtle marching of boots I think is what really drives this home at 7:45. Every time I have seen someone react to the "official" total it brings shocking realizations. Their facial expressions mirrored yours. Interest, sadness, intrigue, disbelief, awe... and then horror.
9:50 Yeah... Yeah it is tough. Each figure is a thousand. A thousand breathing sapient beings who had thoughts, dreams, wishes, and beliefs. Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Sons, Grandparents, Siblings, Friends... Each met their end because of others' ambitions... Thank you for watching with us and enduring.
11:40 To put that into a ratio perspective for today. America's population is at the time of my writing this is 331,900,000x 0.16=53,104,000. 53.1 million Americans would have to die to be the same 16% ratio as Poland.
15:05 Yes. And in many ways we made it worse by actively looking for ways to bomb Japanese cities more effectively. Firebombing the wooden structures and paper walled houses was commonplace. You can look up Bat bombs which were tested and used on civilian centers. We turned nature's flying cave seekers into living inferno carriers.
17:25 I would argue that you have known war for much of your life. It is not something widely thought about though. Iraq, Afghanistan, the continuing war on terror that is finally starting to dwindle within the past ten years, these wars were there. They just were not at the forefront of our minds. 9/11 only happened twenty two years ago. Some 4.5 million have died as a result of these wars since 2001. Precursors to the 9/11 Hijackings could add more if you want to count them as well. Could even go as far back as the Gulf War in 1990 but at that point you wouldn't have been alive.
21:45 "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." -Margaret Mead
Again, thank you Dave. This is one of the best videos to come out of CZcams. I'm glad to see it has touched you like so many others before you. It is NOT an easy subject to broach, nor is it an easy one to stomach. Keep being the thoughtful you that you are.
This is a very powerful video that tends to put things in perspective. I, like you Dave, was born during this 'Long Peace' period in '64 and though it seems like the world is going to hell in a handbasket; when you compare it to World War II...
We get a glimpse of what the populations of the world suffered, sacrificed and fought for during those six terrible years. It's also a reason that the people of that time have been labled the greatest generation.
Thank you for your heartfelt reaction.
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Yep…in fact Enola Gay, the B-29 that dropped both bombs, is in a museum right by Washington-Dulles International Airport in Virginia. I’ve been there. They have a protective plexiglass barrier set up because people kept vandalizing the bomber.
I’d also like to mention that it’s a fun place to go to. Has some very strange aircraft in it. Highly suggest going if you’re ever in the Virginia-DC-Maryland area.
more German soldiers died capturing the Stalingrad tractor factories than defeating France
Denmark was EXTREMELY lucky to fall in 5 hours as they lost very few soldiers and civilians, from what I saw when I first watched the video I estimated it was around only 3,000 which is from what I know is the lowest in Europe.
My guy, they fell in 2.
@@raven_1133 My mistake, my state has a poor catalogue of history and I was using what information I had from my cities’ library.
@@raven_1133 But fought longer
@@Tubaplayer2 Late reply, but no problem! The soldiers fought for 5, government for 2.
Not all the Germans were bad. In fact, I admire a German that was a general during WW2, Generalfeldmarshall Erwin Rommel, The Desert Fox.
Rommel was an exceptional man, he only served his country, not the Reich. He wasn’t a NAZI, he never was interested in the party. He became a general pretty much because he was a frontline soldier of WW1. Rommel served from the front, not from the rear, he even would help his forces’ engineers build bridges during the initial western front with his own hands. He was a soldier first and foremost, a father and husband second most. Hitler ordered Rommel to hold the line in North Africa when the North Africa Campaign was starting to end, but Rommel ordered his men to retreat, not because he would die, but because his men would die, in fact, he had stated “…the Fuhrer has gone mad”. He and the North Africa Corps returned to Europe, but he was a war hero in the peoples eyes, so Hitler couldn’t kill him…well, until Hitler stopped caring, German generals that wanted to surrender for the sake of the German people planned an executed Operation Valkyrie, a planned assassination of Hitler. It failed, and Rommel was said to have been involved because of his celebrity status in the military, even though he wasn’t. Hitler gave Rommel an ultimatum that left Rommel with a single option: Rommel to kill himself, or his family would die. Rommel chose the former, although it was said by the Nazi government it was due to wounds from his service. He admired Hitler early on during the initial stages, but over time, it dissolved, just like the loyalty to Nazism. Hitler was charismatic as fuck.
However there is a term for liking or disliking Rommel. The Rommel Myth. He’s not a very well understood man, but with the evidence provided such as his letters home, he is one of the only Nazi higher ups to be left to an open interpretation due to evidence that in his theaters of command there were war crimes committed, although there are no links to Rommel and the war crimes.
His only son, Manfred Rommel, went on to be put in the German army at 14, captured by the allies after deserting, apparently told the truth of his fathers death by some allied high ranking officers, befriended the son of General Bernard Montgomery, David Montgomery, and the son of General George Patton, George Patton IV, Erwin Rommel’s adversaries, became mayor of Stuttgart, given an endless amount of awards/medals, and then passing away in November of 2013.
This was very interesting and sad. It makes one wonder what could have been achieved by some of these people who lost their lives in these terrible wars. Let us hope that we never see these awful tragedies occur again in times to come. 💔🙏🏻
I live in Alabama, and my niece is 11 years old. I showed her this video and she told me she still doesn't quite get just how to imagine 70 million people, so I told her to look at it this way. The numbers are hotly disputed and are much more likely between 75 to 85 million people. Now imagine you woke up tomorrow to find out that every single person in all of Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Arkansas were dead. Your family, your friends, every stranger you've ever met, ever face you've ever seen, all dead. You were the only one left alive in a sea of death for hundreds of miles in every direction. That was the cost of World War 2.
Really a powerful video. I'm glad you reacted to it! Oversimplified does a great rundown of ww2 I could recommend if you want to get into it.
Loving the channel!
Regards from Namibia 🇳🇦
For what darkness lurks in man's hearts.
The Urban Bombing was necessary for the allies winning the war, urban areas were where the majority of the factories were located. Although the British caused more than the Americans due to one simple thing. America and Britain had come up with a plan for bombing Germany. Americans would bomb at day, when you could easily find and pick out the factories. However the British would bomb at night which is hard enough as it is, but the Germans were under strict blackout rules, every single light was to be turned off in major cities, therefore the British couldn’t really even see the factories, causing them to release their payloads on civilians. America and Britain tried to minimize civilian casualties throughout the war.
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The nations that were either occupied and/or controlled by the Axis, or allied (whether it be puppet government or influence) with the main axis countries of Germany, Italy, and Japan in one way or another, by modern day nations, were: Russia, Finland, Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia, Moldova, Georgia, Austria, Belarus, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Greece, North Macedonia, Serbia, Kosovo, Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Guinea, Senegal, Mauritania, Mali, Ivory Coast, Togo, Benin, Burkina Faso, Niger, Chad, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Gabon, Republic of the Congo, French Guiana/Cayenne, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Israel, Madagascar, the Comoros, Guadeloupe, Dominica, Mayotte, Reunion, Mauritius, Taiwan, North Korea, South Korea, China, Hong Kong, Macau, the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, India, the Northern Mariana Islands, Micronesia, Palau, Kiribati, Guam, the Solomon Islands, the Marshall Islands, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, Indonesia, Papau New Guinea, French Polynesia/Tahiti, Canada, and the United States. And that’s just from the top of my head that I know or either think most likely were under the Axis. 94 out 196 nations that exist right now had their land, from the smallest pieces to the entire country, put under Axis control.
My great grandfather was in world war 2 and he was shot down by Japanese army I think and he was tortured for months but he found a radio an he was sending information about important stuff and he really helped out from inside the prison where he was captured with other soldiers.
Such a spectacularly brutal video. I believe every human on this planet should watch this.
“Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it.”
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Yugoslavia has so many deaths because for every German soldier killed by Yugoslav partisans, 10 (at least I think that’s the correct number) Yugoslav citizens would be killed.
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I’d like to mention we are missing, of course Ukraine, but also other wars that happened in Europe before this video was made. Slovenian War of Independence, Croatian War of Independence, Bosnian War, Insurgency in Kosovo, Kosovo War, Insurgency in Preševo Valley, and the Insurgency in Macedonia. The Kosovo War ended after NATO joint task forces were deployed. We picked the side of Kosovo, and I think we still have a presence in Kosovo, but I could be wrong.
Edit: Bro just mentioned it after I wrote this 💀
Ukraine is included in the Soviet Union. About 4 million Ukrainian soldiers died to stop in after them and about 10 million Ukrainian civilians were killed by the Nazis. It’s a utter madness that they are willingly becoming Nazis these days.
I'm just glad this graphic shows who made the real sacrifices in WWII. If not for Hitler invading the former Soviet Union, the world would be a starkly different place. In the west, the Allies faced 59 German divisions. In the east, the Red Army faced 159 German divisions. The Red Army lost more at the Battle of Stalingrad than the US lost in the entire war. If you think about that you begin to understand the real sacrifice of the then USSR.
This is why the Russian people will never neglect the security of their borders ever again. This is also why they won’t let Nazis the next country over promise genocide against them, starting with their kinsfolk on the opposite side of the border.
alot of hitlers successes early on were due to competent generals/commanders and the change in tactics. during the early points of ww2, most countries were still running off tactics of ww1, and ww2 germany pioneered alot of mobile warfare doctrines (some of them still used today) that the post trench warfare era strategy struggles to cope with. a great example is probably the german push through belgium and the netherlands, as they were able to rapidly encircle entire armies. id also add that the long peace still stands, even with the war in ukraine, because the international response was outright condemning the invasion and non-military efforts to get russia to back down. quite a difference from everyone picking sides like ww1 and ww2
"this is tough". AS a german, yes it is, we shouldnt hide that stuff we did and what in general happened. This video btw is just an overlook, the real numbers are probably way higher for sure.
Interesting fact. German military losses on the eastern front are greatly underestimated, and in Africa they are greatly overestimated
Im from Poland - NO MORE WAR!
tough to watch, but must be learned all the same. history will always be more important than you'll think, for how do you think we can prevent it happening again?
The words that Stalin forbade the evacuation from Leningrad are a lie. Read about the "Road of Life", this highway through Lake Ladoga, medicines, weapons and ammunition were delivered to the city along with food, and people were evacuated from the city along it. Over 1.3 million people, primarily women and children, were evacuated over the roads during the siege.
the reason poland couldn't fight back is because germany talked them in to giving up their guns the years before. I hear they was fight tanks with stick and bicycles
It took Poland 50 days to fall. They had real weapons.
The Netherlands capitulated after they bombed Rotterdam (a big Dutch city) and they promised to do the same to other big cities like Amsterdam, The Hague and Utrecht, we did oppose them, with losing ground at most places due to poor weapons, ammo and numbers of men. We did hold the line up North, but ultimately it did little in the end except slowing the Germans somewhat down.
One death is a tragedy
Millions of deaths are just statistics.
Hence the human experience
Its telling when a psychopath like Stalin can make a lot of sense of a phrase. Evil as he was, this statement is as accurate now as it was then.
20:00 Ok, yeah that’s true.
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Not trying to speak for war criminals here, but practically all Japanese houses were made out of highly flammable material, in fact the fire bombings and atomic bombings could have been much, much worse. America came up with a number of ways to try and end the war with Japan without invading the home islands, the atom bomb won, but there was 1 other that would’ve been far worse. The bat bomb.
1,040 Mexican Free Tailed bats would’ve been put into a bomb that would open mid air with a parachute, the opening of the bomb would’ve made the bats want to fly out, so they would’ve, these bombings would’ve also happened at the break of dawn, so the bats would want to seek shelter…that being traditional Japanese houses’ attics which were extremely hard to access, which are made out of highly flammable materials. Why do I mention highly flammable materials? The bats would’ve been strapped with a timed incendiary device. These bombings would have been an estimated 16x more effective than the regular fire bombings. Reportedly, the US government was wanting to use a couple million of bats, that’s around 960 bombs at the very least. They planned to bomb Tokyo with the bat bombs as well.
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Stalingrad is modern day Volgograd. Anyways. Soviet soldiers that showed cowardice, which includes attempting to flee the frontline, to even hesitating to push forward, were either killed by their commanding officers with their issued service pistol as the soldier showed cowardice, or even ordered to be mowed down by machine gunners. Stalin was ruthless. He sent out an order shortly before, or during the Battle of Stalingrad…”Not One Step Back”. Pretty much all frontline changes in favor of the Germans or Finnish after that point, they were simply due to Soviet casualties. Soviet soldiers were expected to, and even forced to give their life for the war, whether it be by the enemy, or their fellow countrymen.
It's actually amusing to me that tankies will desperately claim that those things never happened. But it's documented, especially in Stalingrad. The army forcefully conscripted locals and forced them to charge German lines under threat of machineguns at their rear. And they were equipped with whatever the Red Army cared to spare or nothing at all.
It's even more amusing that tankies and ruskie simps claim it never happened when it's proven Russia is using similar tactics RIGHT NOW in Ukraine. Sending conscripts and prisoners at Ukrainian positions, wave after wave to wear them down and to make them reveal themselves for proper Russian army units and artillery. Get wounded? Left to die. (Or get executed or tortured by Chechen blocking units) Retreat? Beaten or shot. Complain? Beaten or shot. You can literally find videos of this happening, officers admitting it, and the conscripts and prisoners filming the beatings and executions.
@@Nyx_2142 Actually, it wasn’t with what the Soviets cared to spare. They had plenty of equipment…except they had absolutely horrendous logistics. However your point does still stand.
But that isn’t what happened back then and isn’t what’s happening now. Enemy at the Gates wasn’t a documentary. And you need to inhale less Nazi propaganda both of today’s Nazis and of the past Nazis. If you keep being this horribly flamingly wrong about everything you’re gonna get a job at Fox News!
@@Nyx_2142Here you have described Ukraine exactly now, which forcibly grabs people right on the streets and sends them to the front where they are already going war after wave on Russian machine guns. And by the way, the order "Not a step back" did not necessarily imply execution, but also sending to penal units.But they were shot for the cause:for desertion (that is, retreat without an order), if a soldier causes panic in a unit among other soldiers, violation of an order, for openly agitating other soldiers to surrender to the Germans, for looting, for war crimes, and so on.And as for the specific order 227 "Not a step back", here again they were not always shot, in most cases they were sent to penal battalions, returned to their units or court-martialed, which already decided the fate of the fighter. That is, the detachments not only shot, but also caught not only their soldiers, but also spies and saboteurs, and often joined the battle themselves. And by the way, if you want to say that the USSR threw corpses, just say so, but it was the Nazis who threw corpses. In this regard, nothing changes that the German Nazis, that the Ukrainian Nazis pelt us with corpses, but the truth is that it did not give the Germans anything, and the Ukrainians especially did not
@@raven_1133This is also a lie. The USSR was fine with logistics. And by the way, just in case, I will say that the USSR won with its weapons, its equipment and its lives. And by the way, his point of view, it accurately describes the Germans who could be shot for any offense and they also had detachments without any orders there and who had already mowed down all the retreating ones, especially in 1944-1945, when the Germans were already totally losing and Hitler ordered them to hold their positions to the last and not retreat, by the way, one one of the reasons why Army Group Center was surrounded by Soviet troops during their Operation Bagration (the largest offensive operation in history)
and think, Germany is about the size of the state of Texas
If you want to watch more serious war videos, I’d like to suggest “The Operations Room” channel.
My grandpa served in Vietnam and Great Grandfather served in ww2 in the pacific, you only hear things that are good, you don't see things yourself that being said most men in ww2 (by conscription and forced) were mostly young men and teenagers, Great grandfather had to walk on dead bodies (to clear a hospital) I am not going to say the ages of the bodies but the hundreds of civilians who had fled to the hospital for safety, mostly young children and mothers, young young children, in the Philippines because the Japanese would shoot and throw the bodies on the street in piles, it broke him as a teenager mentally, when Great Grandpa was talking war stories with my Grandpa it broke him to hear my grandpa had witness napalm bombing and to his word and the song "Napalm stick to kids". I am glad I haven't witnessed it, though I want to serve it goes to show how much things are not taken into account in history and especially Americans never had to lose their own mothers, their own children, and men to something they could not stop or control. My heart goes out to victims of war and oppression. I did not want this to be too graphic but there is so much I could say, but what I should is that "All men and women, all minds, all spirits, all blood in sweat goes into what you have today".
I’m a few months late, but my father served in Vietnam, he always kept a bottle of alcohol next to his bed so he could drink a few shots if he woke up in the middle of night. As a child I would ask him to tell me about it, he just looked at me and said “ You will never understand the why what or what I’ve seen, I can tell you but you will never truly understand the cost”. When I was 18 I joined the military and I went and fought in Afganistan the day I came back and saw him, I looked him in the eyes and said “I understand now”.
Although the US did intentionally nuke civilian populated cities the US did try to get people to evacuate these cities before they dropped the nukes and they gave them quite a lot of time to do so it's just a lot of them really didn't believe that the US had a weapon of mass destruction and so they stayed expecting probably like a bombing run or something.
So a little bit of defense for the US here we didn't just drop these nukes without any warning we tried multiple times to get them to evacuate.
And nuking military targets wouldn't really have done much the Japanese government was very nationalist at the time and extremely against surrender by any means and so I don't think nuking Japanese soldiers would have done anything and while the nukes were absolutely horrible and tragic it really was much better than an actual invasion of the country because the Japanese would have fought tooth and nail to the last drop of blood and soaked the entire country in death.
It is believed that if the US invaded Japan they would have been fighting for at least three or more years.
70 million, total death count
Even with the recent Russia Ukraine conflict we still live at a time of relative peace. This is why we haven't gotten involved, no one wants another world war. FYI 3% of the entire world died in ww2. My uncle was on Omaha beach, survived to liberate a concentration camp at end of war. My grandfather was at pearl harbor survived and went on to battle at midway where he was injured and left the navy. Both men didnt know each other, buy their destiny was similar. They came back home mean and slowly drank themselves to death. I think teenager I'm school should be required to do a virtual visit of concentration camps. On germany their students are mandated to visit one before they graduate. Obviously distance and expense would make that hard foe the average student here, so do a virtual.visit. the holocaust isn't even taught in aone states, which is why it boggled my mind hearing teens ask if it really happened. We don't do enough.
The truly insane thing is even though we went Nazis do the West has chosen to support an arm Nazis over people who want to stop Nazis and end a genocide. been perpetrated for the past decade by them.
China is often forgotten. It's like btw 20 millions chinese perished but anyway
I wonder how these figures change, when the fallen of the Russian war against Ukraine get into the statistics… :(
26 миллионов
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Too bad how the video ignores Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and China
The allies were much more welcoming than the Soviets. In fact, I believe it was the 6th Army of the Wehrmacht that held a bridge whatever the cost may be to allow citizens from east of the Elbe River, which was to, the encircled mind you, Berlins’ west so that the civilians could come under western control instead of Soviet control, where in some scenarios, a German woman had to willingly let the Soviets have their way with their body just for food and water, mostly because of Stalin’s propaganda, some wanting revenge for their killed loved ones. However, none of the European atrocities besides the Holocaust were anywhere close to being worse than they were in the Far East, mostly in China, and especially in Nanjing, then capital of the Republic of China.
And that's a lie. The Allies in Germany committed many times more war crimes than the Soviets. The Allies bombed Germany (3 million victims), raped and so on. And about the fact that German women had to be given advice for food and water, blatant lies and Western propaganda, the Soviets sent humanitarian aid to Germany for free. Cases of revenge for their relatives are special cases that should not be taken to the absolute, otherwise it looks like cheap manipulation. The Russian soldier is not evil at heart, not a ghoul and not a villain. The villains are those who came to the land of the Russian soldier and staged a total genocide in which more than 16 million people were killed. Times are changing, but the West is not, continuing to denigrate Russians, Belarusians and other Slavs and even Asians more and more. And Europe helps them in this, while these very Slavs and Asians liberated this very Europe from Nazism. As Marshal of the Soviet Union Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov said, "We freed them, they will never forgive us for this." Here's the question: why did Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Armenians, Kazakhs and others fight and liberate Europe?So they can get shit thrown at them later? Huh?
12:55 in the uk, we get taught about the blitz and how sheffield was bombed because of its steel industry and air raids and such, but never even get told about how the uk did much worse to germany lol
Why Polish lost that much people old and children germany and soviet start this war atack together Poland look another country of europe , meybe because Poland fight all time the rest europe surrender Hitler check " Sabaton uprising history " if you dont belive then you see how be bad then :(
The Soviet Union, together with the allies, asked permission from Poland for the Red army to enter it in order to prevent the Nazis from taking Poland. Poland refused and got what she wanted
It’s sad rewatching this video and seeing that just a few years ago they were talking about how there hasn’t been in-fighting in Europe besides that 10 day war since WWII. And just a few years later now we have the Russia-Ukraine war going on. This broke both the no European countries have fought another and none of the top 44 gdp’s have fought each other since WWII. It’s so sad. I remember watching this video when it first came out and it gave me hope that maybe these larger wars would be mostly done for. And just a few years later here we are. And it’s crazy to me that both of the only 2 wars to be fought by European countries vs other European countries since WWII, both involved the Soviet Union/Russia, invading another European country. The effects of communism and what it does to the people of the country and the evil the leaders of those countries show is so evident. We can only hope that these communist countries eventually find a way to abandon it and hopefully embrace democracy. Democracy isn’t without its own problems absolutely, but the great thing about democracy, is that you are free to leave as you please. You’re free to disagree with your government and leadership, and you’re free to speak your opinion and peacefully protest against things. You are free to do what YOU want to do with your life, you are free to try whatever you want, you are not told what to do. You are free to CHOOSE. You don’t have to risk your life to leave the country, nor live in fear that stating your opinion in disagreement of the government or its leaders will land you in jail or dead. Again, yes democracy has its own problems too. There are always corrupt politicians and leaders and there are always aspects of government that are in some way trying to hide stuff and create a false narrative. But it is SO much worse in communist countries.
Ukraine still isn't in the top 44 GDPs, and the effects of the Nazi occupation of Ukraine is still clearly in effect. UA is not a free country, not a democracy, and just as in Soviet times, just as corrupt today. Unfortunately, you shell civilians in Donbas and this is what happens.
Про то что Сталин запрещал эвакуировать людей из Ленинград - это ложь, как только стало возможным, людей начали эвакуировать, но это было делать крайне тяжело и опасно.
А когда вам говорят слово GULAG - можете дальше не слушать такого человека, он пытается влить вам в голову западную пропаганду. Почему? Поясняю "ГУЛАГ" - это аббревиатура, сокращение от Главное Управление Лагерей (The General Directorate of Camps), то есть это здание, откуда ведётся управление лагерями. Как вы думаете. там могут содержать заключённых? По моему - нет. А когда вам говорят это слово ещё и во множественном числе, ну тут сразу понятно, что у человека что-то не в порядке с мышлением.
Да лагеря были, но их было не много и людей там не истязали, не расстреливали налево и направо, это были обычные места отбывания наказаний, я понимаю, что 30 лет с развала советского союза всякие прозападные либеральные свиньи старательно искажали историю выпячивая эти лагеря, как филиал ада на Земле, но знаете что - поинтересуйтесь, а сколько лагерей смерти и трудовых лагерей, было создано Германией, а Британией, а что там делали в США с людьми азиатской внешности, после нападения Японии, поинтересуйтесь, куда их сажали и какие там были условия содержания. Вы ужаснётесь.
Если вы хотите знать, как действительно было в СССР - обратитесь к документам СССР, к документальным фильмам и вы поймёте, насколько вам врут, о лагерях, о Сталине, о советских солдатах.
Вы ведь не задумывались, что Сталин получив в своё управление СССР в 1922 в состоянии практически аграрной страны, явно отстающей от западных стран, за 19 лет превратил СССР в передового промышленного гиганта, готового защититься от любого вторжения. А угроза вторжения со стороны Германии была не то, что высока, она была неотвратима и Сталин это знал.
Вот поставьте себя на его место, вы бы смогли повторить то, что сделал он, не имея практически ничего на старте и таймер начала войны, который нельзя остановить?
Повторюсь, если хотите знать правду, обращайтесь к советским документам, они доступны любому.
Полностью согласен и поддерживаю, не удивительно конечно, что западный рассказчик выдаёт подобные "факты" ибо холодная война не прошла даром для умов обывателей, но и оправдывать его этим нет желания, раз уж взялся за такую тему, то мог бы лучше подготовится, но в целом, суть передаёт и на этом хорошо, а предкам спасибо за победу... победу великой ценой и не пойди наши прадеды на такую жертву, страшно представить что-бы ждало нас, если б мы вообще появились на свет после...
Что за бред вы написали???
Солженицын который сам был лишен свободы написал целый рассказ называется "Архипелаг Гулаг", или по вашему мнению он за 8 лет лишения свободы не знал правильного имени?
А сколько писателей, режиссеров, ученых, архитекторов прошли через эти лагеря, и то мы знаем это потому что они люди небезызвестные, а сколько людей не известных никому там побывали, а самое главное за что?
А про аграрную страну ну да ну да, Российская Империя одна из сильнейших держав того времени, а в 1922 уже недалекая и безграмотная аграрная деревушка да да верим советской пропаганде…
Putin broke the peace argh that's so frustrating we were doing so well
There were no other wars before this or were you born yesterday?
Poroschenko broke the peace when he sent the army to gun down unarmed peaceful protesters at voting stations in Krasnoarmeisk nine years ago!
Sadly with the war in Ukraine this long peace is well over
Soviet Union lost 27 million people now you can understand why we fight against fascism in Ukraine...
Something that a lot of people forget or ignore: the Soviet Union included the Baltics, Ukraine, Belarus etc., not just Russia. And when you think that Zhukov, one of their "heroes", candidly said "our soldiers will run through a minefield like it wasn't there" or that they sent literal farmers with no ammo nor weapons as a human wave or into T-34s (kinda what we're seen today in Ukraine), especially local minorities, all the while under danger of being shot by commissars behind ("not one step back") you understand how many human lives were literally wasted against a trained professional army like the German one. They were FORCED to fight under death threats, the actual volunteers or professionals were limited. The URSS lost so many men because their leaders, Stalin and Beriya especially, were total criminals that the West SUPPORTED. For example, Poland, the country that bled more than anyone else during the war and saved the Allies during the Battle of Britain despite being betrayed by the same Allies in 1939 (along the Czechoslovakians, another people betrayed at the Munich Conference) had its partecipation at the victory parade denied to not piss off Stalin. And as you can see we also have the 20 millions people that died in URSS outside of WW2, because of the purges, the suppression of the boyars, the Holodomor etc.
Plus we had the gulags, massacres like at Katyn... If you combine Mao and Stalin during and outside of WW2, they killed more people than the war itself. The reason why Russians think about themselves as "martyrs" or victims of the war is just because of this loss of life, ignoring or refusing to remember "everything else that happened in the URSS back then" (of course well supported by current Russian propaganda) that created the current mindset of selfrighteousness and inferiority complex towards the West that makes them so easily manipulated by criminals like Putin for their own agenda, like the war in Ukraine (or the invasion of Georgia, or Donbas). Also, this state of affairs allowed tragedies like Chernobyl to happen (it would've NEVER happened in the West, check out what caused the whole incident if you're interested). Plus, let's not forget that in Russia as well there was discrimination towards Jews, homosexuals and the likes. In another timeline where Russia wouldn't get invaded, they would've been remembered like Nazi Germany is now.
Finally, friendly reminder that Putin said that the fall of URSS was the "biggest tragedy for the Russian people". I think you can understand why literally every former SSRs want to gtfo Russia and Putin, including Ukraine. The reason I'm writing all this is to not make people think that Russia is/was ever a paragon of virtue and heroism.
Final note: do not mistake Germans with Nazi or Italians with fascists. Italian soldiers went to war simply because there was no other choice, that's why morale was especially low (alongside crap generals and leaders). German soldiers were more committed/brainwashed, but except the SS or the penal battalions (like the Dirlewanger for instance) most of them naively thought they were fighting for Germany's greater good. This is something the video creator directed (in a bad way imo) in the first comment of said video. Plus, let's not forget that Western powers and important industries, some of which still exist today, supported both Mussolini and Hitler at the beginning of their rise to power, to fight Communism/Socialism as this was seen as a danger to their wellbeing.
This is false, the context matters "our soldiers will run through a minefield like it wasn't there". Zhukov treated his soldiers very well, his officers he was very harsh with. Regarding the mine field comment needs to be put into context. He was making a point that if there was no minefield and instead enemy artillery the losses would be the same. As for human waves and lacking weapons, a lot of this is western propaganda that was pushed from films like Enemy at the Gates. Human waves were not a thing, and giving 1 weapon between 2 soliders didnt happen. At the very beginning (first days) of the invasion there were some instances where soldiers didnt have weapons - this is where this story comes from, it was not widespread.
Another piece of propaganda is shooting retreating soliders - this wasnt a thing. Order 270 (no retreat) was enacted due to Officers ordering retreats as Russia is so huge they believed they always had room to retreat. The order was specifically against officers and there were officers who were punished some executed but there wasnt machine gunners shooting retreating soldiers.
when I read the comment, I was already making a response plan, but it turned out that half of your nonsense had already been demolished. Well, I'm finishing up! you are talking about propaganda manipulations... using manipulation! you're a genius! linking the Second World War and the war in Ukraine is damn stupid. in all the comments, thoughts slip that the Soviet Union = Nazi Germany. + another manipulation. Calling Stalin and Beria criminals, can you call Soviet soldiers criminals?The reason I am writing all this is to make people think that Russia is a model of virtue and heroism.
Приказ 227 ни шагу назад! А это разве Сталин придумал!?!? А известно ваш аналогичный приказ Гитлер на полгода раньше ввёл в своих войсках! Вы мало знаете!
@@MS-wz9jm So much Kremlin copium
Stalin was ruthless. There’s not much else to say.
and that's why we won. glory to Stalin and the Soviet people
It's easy to say he was wrong after 80 years, but we can't know how war could turned for Soviet Union if Stalin wasn't be so ruthless.
@@crystalmeth437 defeat and nothing more
While Germany was using Radios, tanks and planes
France was still using motorcycles to deliver messages, horses to travel and charge , and the army wasn't even ready, they did attack but got tired and called it a day and went back home,
And yea, they literally stood no chance
German civilian deaths were in large part because of the Soviets. The Soviets labeled their own civilian deaths, whether it be the Soviet government or not, “Atrocities caused by the Germans”. Yes, there were atrocities committed by the Germans against the Soviet people, but a large majority was due to Stalin himself.
can I tell you how children were burned in Belarus and Ukraine? and all this was done by the Nazis whom you are defending. when you transfer the atrocities of the Nazis to the Soviet Union, you defame the honor of Soviet soldiers
you are demented to believe that most civilian losses were because of the Soviets. Going into Russia the only thing the German high political command, and many of the average German soldiers too was how they had to exterminate everyone and everything. Look up Generalplan Ost.
The German military didn't kill 25 million Russians, most were worked to death, starved to death, frozen to death or executed by the Russians themselves. The first recorded acts of genocide during WWII, was committed by the Russian military, first against the Ukrainians, then against captured surrendered Polish military officers and university intellectuals in Katyn forest. Both Germany and Russia started WWII. The Russians were delayed getting to Poland, because they were preoccupied murdering Ukrainians and looting their goods. The only reason Russia does not look worse than the Nazis, is only because they joined the Allied armies and the truth of their behavior buried just long enough to escape justice.
What genocide did the Russia military commit against the Ukrainians?
Nonsense. Better dont write about ww2.. whats a shame
Ww2 sure did sucked
Полное враньё! Россия!