Repairing The Red Ring of Death XBox 360 - EricTheCarGuy
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- čas přidán 23. 12. 2010
- I know this is outside my normal auto repair videos, but having gone through this myself and saving the cost of sending my xbox off to be fixed I thought it falls in with the ETCG spirit. Also, when I went searching for info in this problem I saw a lot of bad videos out there. I figured I'd throw my hat in and see if I could make a better one. Hopefully, it helps you.
My gamer tag is EricTheCarGuy, but to be honest, I hardly ever have time to play much anymore. Making repair videos keeps me pretty busy these days. There are worse problems to have, trust me.
Here is a link to codes for the xbox red rings as promised in the video: forums.xbox-scene.com/index.ph...
As stated in the video the fastener size is #10-32x3/8". You'll need 8 of them. Also, you can't use a hair dryer, it's not hot enough. You'll need to use a heat gun, if not, then the repair won't take.
Lastly I have found this to only be a temporary solution. It is very possible that the Xbox will fail again. At that time you can perform this procedure again but each time you do it's likely to take less time before it fails again. My solution was to purchase a new, black version of the xbox and since then I haven't had anymore problems.
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I had the red ring of death once and right when I saw it I unplugged every outlet connected to, and near my xbox, then I plugged them in again and it worked fine. I now believe in miracles.
Same I just unplugged everything from my xbox and plugged it back in and it worked yay :D
did that actually work o.o omg. i never got a red ring of death yet cuz my xbox is fairly new still so 😂 i guess if i ever get that ill just try that out 😂
i had 2 red rings on mine pushed the button and fixed it i didn't have the bars it was just a big red "O"
Fuck
OMG Me too! :D #miracleshappen
I dont even own a 360 but I watched this video in its entirety and it was so cool - Eric you're a true jack of all trades - I'm sure you made a lot of people very happy with this video. I salute you!
i watch this cus i saw so many people think the ring of the death = is time to say goodbye to xbox
:)
I'm so mad I just got an Xbox 20 minutes ago and it's flashing red
I'm not sure but ,if anyone else is searching for
pc board repair
try Saankramer Electronic Magazine System (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my colleague got great success with it.
It’s maybe the AV or HDMI is not connected correctly
Corey Caudle bruh
Easy fix follow Eric the Car Guys disassembly video up until taking cpu off board instead wrap motherboard in aluminum foil place on cardboard put in oven at 350 for 20 min, be sure to take all cables off 1st. Take out of oven & let cool, then reassemble. Has worked every time for me
Gotta love CZcams DIY videos! Content providers have saved me hundreds of dollars in repair bills. Thanks Eric. It was interesting watching a mech. repair something without a impact wrench and a pry bar! :)
*Fun Fact:*
The Red Ring of Death (known codes are 0100, 0101, and 0102) error was a result of Microsoft using Lead-Free solder to bond their CPU and GPU to the motherboard. As a result, whenever these processing units were exposed to intense heat, the solder would crack, and eventually these chips would not make contact ( in some cases, the Xbox believes there is no processor or graphics unit installed, and fans would run full blast!), causing the console to be unusable.
There are many RROD errors to the Xbox 360, but the most common is the "cold solder GPU/CPU". Other possible problems could be the HANA chip, RAM, CD/DVD drive, blown capacitors, a tampered console, the network board, hard drive, and power supply.
It was caused by defective gpus nothing about the solder.
Good video! One last piece of advice - not enough to test the solder reflow with a cold boot, need to run something that puts a load on the GPU, sometimes when it warms up, the solder may recrack and you'll get the failure codes again. So after you've got it to work again, don't button it all the way back up, put a game in it instead and play it for a few hours first. Then button it up when you're done.
Its a miracle that this worked given the amount of mistakes you made :)
I kinda agree
I watched this video 11 years ago…. I’ve now been a professional mechanic for over 9 years. What an intro to your channel.
As he said he is not a xbox console specialist.
Some points to be noted, which he was doing wrong.
-Never touch your cpu with an screwdriver. Use a Q-tip and rubbing alcohol instead.
-NEVER put your motherboard on an metal or any other type of conductive working table. Always use plastic sheet in between your motherboard and table.
-Half rice grain of thermal compound is more then enough, if branded artic silver.
And neither are you. When working on it unpowered you want a grounded surface. Plastic isn't good because it can build a static charge.
I cringed at watching a system board on a metal table. The repair is spot on though for the error he was getting.
The repair is ghetto.
That’s a horrible “repair” it’s not even really a repair
You all are so stupid.
As usual, digging thru your videos trying to find one I have watched. Wish I had seen this year's ago. Ur epic Eric
Wow, after years of watching your car repair vids, I happen onto an XBOX repair vid by you :-). Pretty cool you left your horizons broad. Miss seeing new vids from you.
"Okay im going to do this in real time".. immediately speeds up clip haha
Hey I finally get to see Eric's hands without the grime!!
Or the rubber gloves...
I've done 20+ consoles like this. It works almost every time, you just have to be very carefull. also when heating the top, only heat the chip that the error code is linked to. heateing the whole topside could result in causing unnecassary heat damage to other chips and potential popping of capacitors. That said I like how every tutorial you make is so in depth- great channel!
This video is now 11 years old. I found this video after buying some broken 360's for dirt cheap. I've fix one already. Thanks for the indepth video. I found some aluminum heat sinks on ebay and thermal pads on amazon to completely restore my original xbox 360.
Good vid. It shows anyone with some mechanical sense can resolve common faults in electronic circuits.
Some remarks, however, from my perspective (electronic engineer, 25 years of experience in repairing electronic circuits).
1) Use Printed Circuit Cleaner to remove the old, dried up (yet still functional) heat sink compound. The repair method implies removing the heatsinks, so you have to replace the heatsink compound. This doesn't mean it has failed, it just means it needs to be replaced because you're removing the heatsinks. Printed Circuit Cleaner comes in various brands in a spray can with a convenient brush on the nozzle. Give both surfaces a good old scrub with it, catching the excess in a paper towel. None of this screwdriver/Q-tip stuff.
2) As mentioned before, there's no need to spread the heatsink compound. Just apply it centrally and it will find it's way when the heatsink is attached.
3) No need to buy the "upmarket", supposedly "better", "artic" heatsink paste either. Amasan T3 will do the job just as well at a fraction of the price and is better for the environment as well.
4) I don't see any reason to alter the heatsink attachment method by replacing the springloaded clips by loosely done up screws either. One isn't going to be "better" than the other.
5) I would concentrate the heat gun on the surface mounted components on the "top side" of the PCB. Your general heating method just puts the electrolytic capacitors (the 3/8"x3/4" cilinders mounted on the component side of the board) through electronic component hell, leading on to possible failure in the future.
If I recall, the spring system helped create the pressure that lead to the solder cracking. Swapping to screws helps to alleviate that problem.
amak1131 And you (or the source you got that from) would be wrong. Solder joints in "reflowed" (a production method) PCBs fail because they were not properly made in the first place, not because of the mechanical stress they were subjected to, which is roughly the same in the "fixing" method anyway.
It's easy for people who don't really know what's going on to attribute success to something they did other than re-melting the solder and letting it cool, but that doesn't mean they "outengineered" the Microsoft engineers. These springloaded heatsink attachments are engineered to keep a certain amount of tension on the heatsinks, so they make good thermal contact, yet don't warp the mainboard to an extend that other problems can arise.
E.g. in my PC, the aftermarket CPU cooler was screwed down too tight by the vendor, resulting in warping the motherboard and creating bad contacts to my memory sticks. Obviously this is less of an issue in a console as the memory is soldered on, rather than in a socket, but it still pays to stick to the default configuration, imo.
Anyhow, the generation of Xbox 360's which was prone to fail in this way and can be repaired by this "hack", are such because the solder paste on their mainboards was not subjected to the correct temperature profile while being soldered to make them work reliably in the first place. Be it through more component density putting too much of strain on the soldering line or the line being "out of calibration"; only the engineers involved know for sure what happened.
"Reflowing the reflow" by heating everything up hot enough for the solder to melt again can "fix" them, because broken solder joints are restored, but this has nothing to do with how the heatsinks are attached to their respective ICs. Connections were restored and that's it.
Note later Xboxes don't fail and can neither be repaired in this way because the manufacturing process was adapted.
And, as I said, it's a bad idea to include through hole components like electrolytic capacitors in this process, as it wears them out prematurely.
Jan Verschueren
You would be right... in a perfect world. The 360's bottom isn't 100% flat and the spring adds pressure to the GPU area. Both alone mean nothing, but the combination is what caused problems. The Xclamp fix was adopted as a reflow alone wasn't always working. The combination of the 2 fixed things (some would even grind the little bumps on the bottom shielding of the case to make them more even).
My source is the 360 modding community back in the day, so I'm inclined to trust them as they know the console better than us. The solder is fine, but the motherboard WOULD warp due to the clamps and bottom being slightly angled in places, breaking the connections.
Newer 360s reduced the amount of heat by making the processors smaller, more or less solving the issue.
amak1131 So Xbox hackers know more about soldering than I do? -really? -I sell those soldering systems for a living, actually, and I've been trained by the manufacturer. I know the pitfalls which can arise and we make sure our customers are constantly aware of them.
Ok, so maybe the heatsink attachments on those Xboxes weren't perfect, I don't know, but it wouldn't have mattered if the soldering was done correctly in the first place. Again: warping PCBs only matters when you've got connectors connecting the various parts together, not in something like a console, where everything is soldered on. As long as one doesn't solder the components while under mechanical stress, correctly made connections wont break unless you physically break the PCB, which these clips are incapable of doing.
And, trust me, manufacturers don't solder their boards with heatsinks attached (for that would "wick" away too much heat) or under any sort of mechanical stress. Surface mount components are placed in their correct positions in the solder paste (sometimes glued down), after the the through hole components have been "wave-soldered" on, and then the board is just transported down the "oven", without any external forces acting on it, in order to "flow" the solder, ideally, ensuring perfect connections. Something went wrong in that initial process or guys like Eric wouldn't be able to repair these boards with this kind of method and that's the be all and end all of this situation, regardless of who you personally choose to put higher on your scale of credibility.
Jan Verschueren I meant they know more about this system than you may. You have good general knowledge, but they understand the console's nuances better.
A great tip here NEVER set the Board on anything metallic use a cardboard,
also always discharge yourself before touching the board or any components,
that could fry the board or best yet use an anti static wrist band.
You can discharge yourself by touching something metal.
As for the thermal paste you only need a paper thin layer of it on the cpu and gpu.
Just the pc. Tech. guy in me...Hope that helps. :-)
This really worked!!!! Super exited that my 360 works again. Thanks Eric
Wow, I remember watching this years ago, not even realizing it was ETCG... fast forward 6 years and saw it in his popular vids. Amazing
Use alcohol to remove cooling paste
I bet 99% of the views did not do this, but watched it for entertainment
I'm more of a pc hardware nerd than I EVER will be car hardware nerd...
worked like a champ! I spent a bit longer properly cleaning the chips and applying paste with my finger (glove) and using my air compressor on all components while disassembled, but excellent!
Never thought this was a real thing “the red ring of death” until today and it has all my dads old stuff and All my old stuff from 10 years ago (my dad is gone) so it holds a lot of sedimented value to me. So thank you
If you had red ring don’t do the bolt mod
Eric - please - do not place electronic parts/boards on the steel table...
also,as with any circuit board, those tiny cylinders are capacitors which collect and store electricity. If you discharge one by touching it wrong, especially with a metal object, IT CAN KILL YOU. Don't believe me? Those warnings on the back of electronics that say "do not open - risk of electric shock" are referring to the capacitors. As an ex TV repairman I can tell you I HAVE heard stories of people dying while trying to repair TV's, etc. A tiny one amp capacitor discharging is enough to kill a man. Just be careful, people
Zachary Mazurkiewicz I don't think there'll be voltages of more than 50V inside your xbox to be honest... The power brick is there for a reason.
you could be right, I dont have an x box....my most recent game system was a sega genesis....now you know how old i am....I was just making reference to electronics in general. Also, its not the volts that will get you, its the amps. I was once electrocuted on top of a telephone pole by 7500 volts and was just shaken up a bit, with burn marks where the power entered and left my body. I learned in a computer building class a LONG time ago, when people still did that sort of thing, that a capacitor discharging just one amp can kill a horse. And they can hold their charge for years after being powered up. Thanks for responding to the comment, at least someone is paying attention.
Zack Mazurkiewicz Voltage doesn't kill you, amps do. A taser could have 5 million volts and not kill you.
@@EqualsThreeable indeed
RROD may come back so I strongly recommend increse fan speed by increse voltage to 12V (which is loud, but effective) or make hole in case and install 120mm fan above CPU radiator.
I absolutely love this video. I very much appreciate how clear you talk, and that you detail and show every step of the process, for dinguses like me. I like that a lot. I didn't even know about the error codes. Mine unfortunately gets a code "0110", which is a RAM error. Can't be good. But either way, one of these days if I ever get around to trying to fix this issue, I'll definitely use your video as a reference for getting the Xbox apart and back together. I'm interested in doing console repairs one day, and I'll certainly write this channel down and use it as a reference for Xboxes. Very good. Unfortunately not the issue with mine, but for a disassembly/reassembly, hard-pressed to find anything better and more informative.
Omg you just saved my life when you said if the light doesn't turn green its an issue with the power supply, all I had to do was unplug everything from my Xbox, unplug everything from the wall, blow into the part where the power goes into the Xbox and into the wire, now it works perfectly fine.
Its like reading OBD1 codes! haha
Is the xbox still working?
this video to this day makes me happy. as a mechanic myself when something is broken you fix it, don't replace. the way he did it may be "cringe" worthy but it should go to show that what we may think as "super" delicate is not as fragile as we may think. the "pros" may do things different but the result is the same. im sure if Eric did this more often he would adopt some of the precautions others would use. but remember, as mechanics we all ware steel toes, so we are rubber grounded. and as for that table, it may be conductive but without the static component it poses no threat, i have worked on more boards then i can count on a bench like that. comp techs work mostly in carpeted areas on wood tables. mechanics work on concrete. but you would be surprised how rough and tumble electronic equipment really is.
I'm with you on that man. I'm a computer science major, and I noticed the same thing
1. It's best to ground yourself before working on critical components
2. Be careful around the RAM (even if you're grounded)
Eric, you rock.
"Goop" that's thermal paste
I know
haha maybe not
Does this work with Ford XBoxes?
+Pat Haugen Only 2006 and newer models.
Hello. I'm an electronic engineer and I really enjoyed this video! You are very informative. I also enjoy your car videos. As an electronics guy, I'm not much of a mechanical guy so it's nice to learn from people. Happy learning! :)
Your only learning how to destroy an Xbox.
@@IMDYT420 An Xbox that's already broken? Lol
I just wanted to say thank you for takeing the time to make this video for us.
As a PC builder, this made me cringe
+Shatto did you see him spread the thermal paste.....
Jacob Empie I did
WII FUCKING U MASTER RACE BETTER THAN PC, PS4, XB WHATEVER NUMBER THEY PICK NEXT, AND WHATEVER GAME CONSOLE YOU WANT TO COMPARE IT TOO!!!!
+Batman Gaming Okay but even the PC plays Wii games better than the actual Wii
Shatto exactly 😂😂 pc is like the master race because it's has the biggest gaming library any game wii has the pc has become of a wii emulator and plus hd :)
The heatgun treatment can just as well be done by "cooking" it in the oven. I have no idea WHY that works, but it does. Just keep it on low heat. I know LazyGameReviews have done that with several motherboards and it has worked. It's odd. :D For details, check out LazyGameReviews when he repairs an old Barbie computer.
You'll find that heating the board to the point were the Solder just starts to melt may fix any bad joints on the board.....
Try not to cook it in the oven, that puts the plastics in things such as the USB ports in a position where it could melt. Both methods work by remelting the solder beneath the CPU and GPU, which is known to develop tiny, tiny fractures from excessive heat.
@@davidpayneii289 cooking is tbh a pretty bad idea in general. The proper repair is obviously to resolder the damaged solder joints. But if you're not able to do that or don't have the equipment to, the oven baking may be a last hail Mary.
@@TheOnlyToblin True. Be sure to use a disposable toaster oven or something if you really have to, I've seen accounts of some people saying that it releases toxic materials. I don't know how most feel about it but I prefer my pork roasts toxic-free.
Thank you very much Eric for your video. This morning I turned on our Xbox for my 3 year old daughter and I got the 3 red lights. So, I found your video and proceeded to tear down the Xbox. I followed your directions took about an hour but WAH-LAH we are back in business! It's working perfectly! Thanks Again!!
Thank you so much! this fixed my 3 red ring!! on my first attemot at reassemble I got a 2 red light 0011 error code so I just dissasembled and tweaked my thermal paste application and applied less torque on the bolt when i reassembled it. Im pretty sure that if you bolt it too tight is squeezes out the paste and results in a bed bond. Now Im playing some Assasins Creed Brotherhood, thanks again
OMG!!! i just unplugged my power cord from the adapter and plugged it back in and it worked wtf....I may not have had to go through all this in the first place LOL
XTX 1126 you had a full ring right?
Wait... REALLY?
AHHHH!!! NOOO!!!!. Don't EVER put a screwdriver near your CPU and GPU!. Q-tips with 70% iso propyl ONLY!, Absorb the thermal paste and let dry before reapplying. As an avid pc builder I hope you take my advise.
and you're a man child.
SilaciousD
Actually, the screwdriver thing isn't that bad, now if you were complaining about ESD, that would be different.
Scratching the top of a chip won't do shit, compared to what could have gone wrong as far as reflow, and possible ESDD could have done.
Everyone understands the dangers of ESD but scratches on the top of your processor is EQUALLY dangerous. Scratches provide areas for air to collect and bubble underneath your thermal paste, any air that resides between the heat sync will super heat and creat un-even cooling and could potentially damage your processor. Believe me, I've done it before. Which is also why you don't SPREAD thermal paste, you put a dot in the middle and slowly apply even pressure with your heat sync to get a perfect smooth coat without the potential of air getting between the contacts.
Funny, because thermal paste is designed to fill in the scratches between metals. If metals were perfectly flat there would be no need for thermal paste. If scratches were that dangerous, then why would Microsoft, AMD, Intel, Nvidia, and many others laser engrave their chips?
The danger of ESD is the device will still work, mostly.
Actually, when done correctly, spreading thermal paste can yield better results, the rice method is just quite a bit easier.
Believe me, I've worked on commercial projects where things like that might actually matter.
Best advice.I keep metal away from there too.
Man, you are a genius. Now it's my turn to repair my problem with 3 rings of the deadly sins.
I don't remember you mention this, but whenever you do work on circuit boards like this, its a good idea to ground both yourself and the board to prevent static discharges from damaging compants on the board.
How do you get a pc player to tell you that they play pc? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
I play Pc. :)
I play all the things...
ur wrong
That metal work bench man... the back of the board scraping on it made me cringe.. otherwise nice video
That heat gun can dry your caps out and you should keep pressure on the CPU/GPU so when the solder flows it will not create gaps, but over all you have a good working knowledge of the jest of things, good work.
Great video. I fixed two x boxes using this video. Thanks a million man.. saved me a lot of hardship.
omg thx my xbox is alive
Rly ik I'm 7 yrs old late here
about the heatsink...the heatsink against the cpu surface is an imperfect fit. This results in microscopic pockets of air that get superheated when the CPU is working. The function of the thermal paste is to fill the microscopic pockets of air with thermal paste. The paste still transfers heat from the CPU to the heatsink, but will not heat up like the airpockets. Thus, you only need a very FINE layer of thermal paste on the CPU. Too much paste will creat an insulation between the CPU and the heatsink, which is what you DO NOT want. I use my finger to smear the thermal paste. For what its worth.
i got my xbox 360 "arcade" version USED in 2008 from gamestop for $220. had it for 7 years and never once did it get the rrod. Just got an xbox one today and i put my xbox 360 away :'-). good ol xbox 360. went through like 10 headsets but the console itself never failed me! hope the xbox one is just as good.
I am trying to play online put the live code in and I can't but I can only add friends and talk
what do you mean? on the xbox one?
applepig16
if so just go to the xbox website... click "redeem code" and just put it in there. The new xbox one menu is super weird i couldn't find a place to put the code so i just did it online
+J. Sauce Do you know were to redeem it on Xbox one yet??
Aarocision Inception Yes i did! Go the "store" on the xbox one menu. Its the last tab on the right and then a new tab pops up that should say "games".
Under games theres a button that says "browse all games".
Click that and a new set of tabs should pop up. At the top of the page, there are 5 tabs. Click on the one all the way to the right that says "redeem code". Hopefully this helps :)
I have learned so much from you ETCG!! Now I have just fixed my RROD thanks to you!! THANK YOU!
Came from apex.
same
Lol me too
same
😂 me too
Me to
nooo00 you don't spread thermal paste lol
Yup! Gets air bubbles.
You're not supposed to, only a tiny drop(especially because that processor doesn't have a heat spreader on it) and let the heat sink spread it out, you can get air bubbles if you spread it.
Edit: Just realized you said you don't spread thermal paste, ignore my comment.
Yes, you do. The whole point of thermal paste is to eliminate gaps between the processor and heatsink.
Miljörör för Språkpartiet it spreads itself when you put the heatsink on. If you spread it before doing that you could creature air pockets You put a small pea sized amount and slap the heat slink on. Never spread thermal compound manually.
really very hilarious eric the gamer guy new channel coming soon best wishes for that eric
That cool you took the time to show what was to repair the red ring of death, most of the older XBox 360s all you have to do is plug the power in and wrap it in 3 big towels and let sit for 15 min... I'm currently working for Microsoft and yes you did save $300 and look on the dash board if ya ever wanna job for XBox game testers make a lot of money, I helped out with Grand Theft Auto V and my input is in the game...
error is not 1023 NO
4 red lights= 0
1 red lights =1
4 red lights= 0
2 red lights =2
the code as u can see is 0102 no 1023
and the 3 last lights is not a code is red ring of death
is it that hard to spell the word LIGHT? lmao
mattnova18 upss error sorry epic fail XD
He said “RadioShack” what in the hell is “RadioShack”
An old electronics store. They’re essentially out of business but there’s still some floating around. They used to be the go to store for anything electronics related
“What the hell is RadioShack” how insulting.You might as well ask what the hell is a blockbuster while you’re at it then turn around and receive the biggest b!tch slap you’ve ever received in your entire life!!!
Just finished the repair as the video posted.. I reused the X braces and it works now. We'll see how long it lasts, but nice video.
so how long did it lasts?
EricTheCarGuy Thanks, man. This fix works if you get the two red lights on the left half of the circle, too. I didn't have the X plates on mine (it was a refurbished version; someone has definitely had to do this before) and I actually didn't need to use a heat gun either, but I did get the red ring once after the fix, which probably wouldn't have happened if I'd used a heat gun. It works fine now, though. The #10 washers were a little too big but thankfully since someone did it before I was able to use the ones that were already there. Anyway this was incredibly helpful. Thanks again.
It's always cool when the lights go GREEN! Yee Haw!
lol so much paste
Thanks to to your video I was able to save mine which still has the blades dashboard, much appreciated.
I never put double washers on the bottom cause it would flex the board when the screws were put back in. And in the top side of the board I would slide nylon washers in between the heat sink and the board then when you tighten the screws it would keep them from over tightening and flexing. I never used the heat gun but that seemed to work really nice. Really good video though.
goop= thermal paste
and for how hot the xbox gets there should be fans on the cooler
Dyllidan ret you can think the brilliant design team at microsoft for that.
Fans cost money
Gavin Curtis well the could have just moved the fans that are in it already next to the heatsinks ditched the shroud and been better off. that's less money when they get rid of that piece of plastic.
Best fix: Get PC
U spelled it wrong Get “a” PC not “Get PC”
Worked great! Thanks! I overheated my Xbox during a lengthy GTA V session, and this repair worked great. For anyone on the fence about whether to replace the X-brackets holding on the heatsinks...just do it.
You have an older xbox, my internals looked a bit different. GPU heatsink had a little mini heatsink attached to it, changed nothing though.
BTW, can u cook the xbox by plugging it in without the fans?
The best fix for an Xbox is to never buy another xbox.
Microsoft wants the customer to pay to fix their substandard poor quality goods. Its a racket. There are better things to spend all that money on.
I agree, like a ps3 or some PC components
drew bearden
PS3 No. PC components Yes.
(Time for a keyboard stress test ?)
;P
The $ucker Market Breakdown :
*PC's* are a con. The overpriced hardware is out of date as soon as you buy it. The software never makes full use of the ever changing hardware. Some graphic cards out there were never even supported, no refunds though.
*Apple* is absolute junk that charges you for everything that you could get for free on a PC.
Was it not Apple that created the Pay-2-Play epidemic ?
Their constant update fetish is a con that I suspect reports your user history for marketing because they seldom upgrade anything other than in app adverts.
Their system may be pretty but it is clunky to use. The looks of a Ferrari but with the inner workings of a model T Ford from the 1920's.
They will just stop supporting your hardware when they feel like it. The original ipad is a good example. The old ipads are still around but you cant update them or run modern apps on it. It is still on its original battery pack but they don't care, they already took your money for the apps and hardware. Now you have an expensive paper weight and a thinner wallet to show for it. The only use for an Apple product is target practice.
As for *Sony*, they promised a ton of features for the PS2. They said they would release more hardware for it later. I forget all the crap they promised, that was years ago, but I do remember that huge void in the back of the PS2 for a hard drive they never produced.
They sold the PS2 sucker fodder on the success of the PS1. PS2 games were slow to find their way onto the market. $ony lost my wallet right there.
(remember the PS1 problem of a plastic component melting so you had to turn the PS1 upside down so it would still work ?
I think that is where the Xbox got the idea for the red ring of death to sell more units)
*Microsoft*, like Apple, just $uck you dry. You even have to pay Microsoft a tax to get access to the internet on their toaster xbox junk. Their only xbox quality control criteria is : sabotage the product so that it dies, hopefully as soon as the warranty runs out.
The last time a computer was fully utilized was the *C64* back in the early 90's. People really put effort into working that computer to its full potential. They were also built like tanks so they would last for years.
The Amiga was a good follow up but that was very poorly marketed giving the market edge to the PC.
Ever since the end of the C64 era, the software blames the hardware and the hardware blames the software for poor quality products. Note that the price inflates at a rapid rate for these short lived products. The software in many cases is full of bugs or lack features because it is rushed to the sales department ASAP. PC motherboards that have cheap faulty components so you get clock drift in the BIOS (can also be windows screwing up).
It has become a huge racket. The cost of games has become extortionate.
*Conclusion*
The only way to go, under current market conditions, is to build your own PC. At least you can do other things with a PC than play games, movies & music cds. It should have a longer shelf life too, providing you get good quality hardware.
( My last PC was 14-15 years old, I had to scrap it when I moved overseas :(
I still have the hard drive though :) )
I have had my Xbox 360 for six years, it had two red rings of death but worked fine after i turned it back on both times, had problems with the disc drive after around 4 years then i just had to start slamming the top of the console for it too open. The Xbox One is great too, i had to take my first one back after two months because the disc would take ages to eject got a replacement and haven't had a problem since. Xbox live has never given me problems.
MrRastaripper It's luck of the draw with Xbox.
My first 360 was an older model and so it had the standard overheat problem. It lived for about 15 months.
My 2nd, and last, 360 was a hard drive fail. I hardly ever used the thing it was just over 1 year old.
Phoned MS and they said it was a common fault with the newer 360's. They said they would fix it for $100. !!!
Their fix was another HD, probably from the same faulty batch.
They admitted that they went cheap on the HD but MS still wants customers to pay for the repair.
I only bought two 360's but I know of people that bought as many as 6 (more money than sense).
If that were a car from a dealer you would not stand for that kind of crap and consumer protection would be all over it like a rash.
I'm done with consoles. What a waste of time and money.
@@MrRastaripper uh, you shouldn't have to put up with any problems from poor quality parts and construction
HOW TO FIX A XBOX : buy a PS3
Just so you can get the yellow light of death
Get this guy a medal
What If ylod is created by bad use and hit damage
ps3 is better
rrod is created by nothing
Cheers Eric, my 10 year old son is over the moon that his Xbox 360 is alive again, followed your video and 100% sorted. THANK YOU
How many miles did you have on your xbox? How often would you change the oil on one?
PS3 a much better design
The slim, yes. The original phats, not so much.
Evaldas65 the slim.. Not so much of the super slim. I've heard that has major problems
*Quickly and easy xbox repair*
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PS3 being better? Is that the point of this video? No it is not.
karina ciu It's great to see that someone actually reads these posts.
Hello Eric, Is your xbox 360 still working from the 2010 fix as said above?? TY ED
ERIC THE CAR GUY
how you doing man. I have a question. I did all the same but put the small screws, and I have the same ring of death. do you think that it makes some different. any suggestion? tnx. for your help.
what does reflow mean? Pertain to? what is the idea behind reheating the board or processors? does this process reset something? thanks ahead for helping me understand and thanks Eric for posting this video.
I love your humor man. I mean that music behind screwing :D
I just did this tonight but instead of using a heatgun I used the no fan/overheat method to do the rebonding. Also, I used no washers, any washers and the board would not properly sit and would require bending the board to fit the front and backplug in items. For me, the most important thing was not using too much conductive paste. The first go through a caked it a bit thinking a little extra would be good but it just insulates the chip causing a quick overheat. Another thing I didn't do was put the dvd back on or the box back together, that just traps heat. When I'm not playing I'll cover it completely so no dust gets in but when I'm playing I'll let it breathe and put an extra fan blowing on the heatsinks. This 360 shall nevah die!!!
This is why I am glad i built my own PC. had it for 3+ years now with zero issues. :D
I finally clicked on this :) Thanks for all your vids Eric!
That is fantastic... where were u in 2007. I had to switch 2 consoles and both of them gave me the red ring finger within a year... i fixed the 2nd console with a hammer
I had to do this exact thing to my Xbox, and yes I used the "Four Penny Heat Sinks" for the...RAM chips I believe they are? Well anyways it worked for about two years.
The small amount of copper in the penny heat sinks worked fairly well for distributing heat, as well as putting just a small amount of pressure against the RAM to counter the opposite pressure that the design caused.
As a matter of fact MaxxFordham below mentioned the X design they used to hold down the Heat Sinks and such...If I remember correctly, and also by my logic and experience in repairing various computer issues as a side job, those are one of the biggest reasons behind the Red Rings.
An X design like that has a major flaw, because there was no screw in the center and because of thermal expansion on the Motherboard, the X design pulled or pushed on the GPU and CPU in the center as the board heated up. Combine that with small and weak solder, and it'll break the connections...which is why the heat gun is required. This is also why using an oven and towel method would sometimes work as it re-connects the broken solder.
If I'm wrong about this, please correct me, cause I love learning stuff! :-D Also great Video Eric. I'm now subscribed and will be liking a lot of your videos I hope
what size screws did u use with the washers?
Hey Eric what games do you have on Xbox ??
ok i need ur advice i saw a guy selling xbox 360 with 2 joystics and all cables for 40Euro it does have rrof same as this in video should i buy it??
My 1st 360 red ringed within 2 weeks after purchase. Microsoft sent me a brand new one,the previous was used. It started showing symptoms within a week. I bought an external fan that would stay on after the xbox was off. It lasted me from 07 - 2015 and still works like it did out of the box aside from the disc drive.
hey im late, but is there anyway to do this with a soldering iron?
As I type this, you made this almost 8 years ago. Did the 360 work a ling time after your repair?
The only proper fix is to reball the gpu with lead solder, and after that, fit a 2nd generation gpu heatsink, the one with the heatpipe and fit a 50 mm or 60 mm 12v fan on top of it, sucking the hot air out of the top. You'll notice there are holes in the metal casing, just where a fan should go, but they didn't make any holes for the heat to escape. I guess they were planning on fitting a fan there but never bothered with it? I managed to *squeeze* a 60 mm fan in there but had to cut away a bit of the case to make it fit and the gpu heatsink is very cool now. It's also cooling the cpu heatsink as well. Relying on passive cooling for the gpu was never going to work, given how much heat the early chips kicked out.
I'm looking at adding another heatpipe to the back of the gpu heatsink, that ends near near the rear exhaust fan to cool it even further.
What are those things at 23:25? My xbox did not have those on it? What can be used to make them besides pennies?
You also want to be careful using Arctic Silver 3 or 5 b/c it's electrically conductive and if it overflows onto the board, it can short.
Otherwise, superb repair video. thank you!
Sorry if this is an obvious question, but what is the purpose of the heat gun step?
where did u buy those machine screws and the washers and stuff
question why do you use the heat gun. is it necessary to do that i have no problem using i was just wondering why?
Just wanted to say you rock! My friend and I still weren't able to get rid of the RROD but your video was still extremely helpful. question..the power brick is orange, could that be the issue?
Whats the use in heating the motherboard? ive seen videos where they dont heat it and it works
x2 On the anti-static measures a metal work bench is perhaps one of the worst possible surfaces. It's something where 99% of the time you'll be alright, but some boards and components are very prone to static. Even just a wood panel or similar to work on is a huge improvement.
I may be wrong but I would imagine that the machine screws are actually M5, 10-32, although they are so close they'd be almost the same. Generally any electronics I've worked on uses metric, M3/M4/M5.
Can you use a hair dryer ? I don't have a heat gun
Old video man but super helpful. Thanks
hey what's the size of the neoprene washers..I couldn't find a #10 anywhere