Lexie would have loved this. ( i mean Meredith and their Dad making peace and her comforting their Dad in his last moments especially as a Lexie wasn’t there.) But i bet she was watching them. I haven’t seen the whole episode as only really watch Lexie and Marks story.
Meredith is parentless, but the truth is she's been that way since she was 5 years old. Her parents were shitty and didn't do right by their daughter. Her father could've fought for custody instead he decided to create a new little family and forgot all about the daughter he already had. Meredith owed him nothing, but if there's anything she's learned in her life is that you've got to say things while you have the opportunity because people die.
I agree. Meredith didn’t owe him anything. If anything, he owed Meredith. She saved his life by donating half of her liver to him. I think she did it more for Lexie than him.
Mer owed him nothing, but because she loved Lexie, she gave him her liver. She's a hell of a lot stronger than I would be. I love the way they write her, and I've felt this crazy connection with her since I started watching a few months back.
Been awhile since I watched but he left Mer alone with Ellis for another family because Ellis didn't want him. No contact either because he didn't want to or because Ellis never let them talk. 1. His new wife didn't mind Meredith she liked Mer but then Thatcher blames Mer for his wife's death even tho she wasn't involved didn't he slap her? Even tho she just wanted to comfort her never there for her father?? 2. his oldest daughter hated Meredith for some reason, never seen again. 3. Lexie always wanted to get to know Mer, left her family to become Meredith's family basically then died. 4. All the derek drama choosing 2 other woman over Mer & flirt with another while married & died. So yea I hated Thatcher at times but felt bad on how Ellis treated him, he loved Ellis & was just thrown to the crub because her real love didn't leave his wife and Ellis blamed poor young Mer for it all. Loved Lexie (will 4ever miss her) All in all Meredith deserves better, she better have a happy ending for her character she suffered so much not including all the other stuff she had to deal with.
lilyxavier1990 dont get me wrong i dont like thatcher but to say he didn’t try isn’t right. Yes he left meredith with ellis but she didn’t give him much choice, ellis ran him out of their home in hopes of having a proper relationship with richard but he chose to stay with his wife. After that ellis LEFT seattle with meredith and moved to boston, where they lived for a time. Thatcher in no way is or was a good father but lets look at the whole picture, he was verbal abused and belittled by his wife, endured it as she did the same with their daughter and stayed with her knowing that she was cheating on him with another man. After time he remarried and had another family, he easily could have tried to integrate meredith into his new family but he still probably feared ellis, lets be real she wasn’t exactly the sweetest woman. Ohh and molly was the youngest of the grey sisters. Lexi was susan and thatcher eldest. And i just want to say i didnt like the relationship that the writers made between susan and meredith because all that woman wanted to do was love her like one of her own daughters, just for them to have meredith be downright rude to her.
Meredith is too kind. She did not owe Thatcher a damn thing (especially after he slapped her) and she still went to see him and comfort him in his last moments.
I always disliked Thatcher however didn’t necessarily blame him for his behavior until he slapped Meredith. I hated him since then. She showed him grace and mercy.
It's about not hanging on to hurts and letting those create guilt and regret. Mere has reached out and done her bit. She won't have anything to feel guilty or regretful about.
Meredith showed so much grace in this moment. She knew he made mistakes and he was far from a good guy but she let all that go because in the end he is her father and all he wanted was to spend his last moments getting to know her and her kids. And for her to see that he wasn’t a waste of space he did somthing good with the liver she gave him. He’s a broken man but I think she knows what that’s like. This made me sad.. i didn’t particularly like thatcher but man watching Meredith lose one more person cut somthing in me
taylor asay he’s not a perfect man but he did try to get to know her in the end , he didn’t want to cause her more pain when derek died by reaching out to her so he kept if thru Richard , because he knew he had already given her so much pain in her childhood, she’s very strong despite being left behind by her father and neglected by her mother , Derek gave her great love compassion understanding and showed her she is everything , he left 3 beautiful babies so she would never be alone, Ellis gave her strong will and drive to succeed and intelegence , beauty, but thatcher gave her his gentleness and the ability to love, she’s the best of both of them ,
@@dorislacaze8475 Derek wasn't all that great. Christina was the one who really knew Meredith and accepted her for who she really was. If it wasn't for Christina, Meredith would be lost. I don't like it that people act like Derek was great. He wasn't! Meredith, was struggling to get to know Lexie and Maggie but in the end she was a better sister/ sibling then Derek ever was for his sister's! Meredith is real and Derek was just a guy who had a mask on and pretend that he was a really nice guy, but in the end, he was the one who was married and didn't say it to Meredith. Meredith is strong way stronger then Derek ever was
I hate my father and i don't know how to make it right. Ive done the whole forgivness. Tried to make amends. Knowing blaming him wont fix my problems. But now I've realized i have the right to hate him. Im tired of it. Whats the point.
Even though Meredith had such complicated relationships with both her parents, you really see how both Webber and Bailey filling in those roles so much throughout the show ❤❤❤
One of the best episodes in the show. Such a great episode. Meredith is my favorite character. She is so strong and brave. I didn’t really like thatcher (especially when he slapped Meredith) but seeing him die really touched me. He was at Derek’s funeral and Meredith never knew and he wanted to know her kids. Both Ellen Pompeo and Jeff Perry’s aching are amazing. What an episode. 10/10 for me.
Hestia Moon omg I forgot about that good thing you reminded me about it. Yes I totally agree about the April part. It’s just I loved the scenes between mer and thatcher because it was nice to see them finally talk after those years and she came just in time to see him before he died
No, she literally hasn't. She has suffered alot of trauma and been party to a shocking number of tragedies. But there is worse than what Mer has been through.
@@fe5018 I mean yeah, technically, but she has also has a real horrid life when you look at it. How many have had it worse in real life America? She's lost her mum, her sister, her husband, her dad and lost a baby. She was in an explosion, almost drowned and died, was in a shooting and watched her husband almost whilst her best friend operated, she watched her mother try and kill herself, she had a bad childhood, then had to watch her mother slowly succumb to Alzheimer's whilst she suffered abuse from her, her friend died, she temporarily lost her daughter, she was in an ambulance crash with a babies life, a doctor who was there when her husband died spent a year in the same hospital, she got chocked out by a patient, almost bleeds out giving birth. AND... her dog died of cancer!
Meredith is a fictional character but yet I can't stop feeling such empathy for her. Everything she went through and everything she witnessed is so heartbreaking, enough for a person to fall into a deep depression and never want to get up again but she did and that's why I love her so much and the way she's written. She used to be this naive young intern who fell for the sexy older attending but she then became this huge realistic, inspiration. She lost her friends,husband,mother,father,sister yet she keeps her head up everyday and keeps being an amazing mother. Grey's anatomy definitely changed over the years but I can't imagine how it'll be like once we stop seeing Meredith's life. I can't even imagine how the last episode will be like
In all honesty, I didn't like Thatcher, just the way they made him out to be on the show and I still remember him slapping Meredith, which I didn't like, even though he lost his wife due to the hiccups around the same time, it wasn't good for him to do that to Meredith, who tried everything then But I will admit, this is a good death scene. He may have never been a good father to Meredith, he may have never been there, but at least the two got to make amends and spend his final moments together. It's even more beautiful that they talked about her children and how good her life is with them. At least he died knowing she was happy.
He was put through a lot, he married a woman who cheated on him, got custody of his daughter, unknowns to him had another child with the man that she cheated on him with and as far as we know had no contact with thatcher unless necessary. I think Meredith reminded him of Ellis way too much in good ways and bad. He is a tragic character but he had his moments.
I think Thatcher was very bad at handling stress. He slapped Meredith after she told him Susan died and became a drunk, he went half way across the country when Lexie died, he went to Derek’s funeral but didn’t end up talking to Meredith, when Ellis kicked him he just left and didn’t take Meredith with him. I think she understands that because she was pretty shitty at too. Considering the banner of avoidance and tequila she lived under for so many years. In the end it’s good that she came so she could some closure. Unfortunately, they never had a relationship. I never liked Thatcher but this was of the saddest death scenes I’ve seen on Greys Anatomy in my opinion.
This scene was not really meant to give Thatcher any depth. We can tell that he was feeling remorse and wanted things to be right - this is, needless to say, expected from someone suffering from a terminal disease. This scene was meant to give depth to Meredith... She is still on her journey. She is still at a stage where she makes decisions, choices, mistakes, a stage where she learns, improves, betters herself. It was wonderful to see that despite being reserved, excessively independent and somewhat eternally sad, Meredith found strength and empathy in herself to provide comfort to this man. She is a great fictional character.
I stopped watching Grey's Anatomy after season 1 or 2 but have been binge watching during COVID. I watched more Scandal and it's hard to come back and see him on this show. I keep expecting him to do something horrible, kill people, plot...hehehehe
The actor playing Thatcher did a great job. This is what it kinda is like at the bedside of someone who has "slipped away quietly." One minute they are there, the next the light just goes out of their eyes. Death isn't pretty or romantic or easy or calm. Most people's bodies struggle for those last few breaths of air whether they want to or not. The stronger the character the tougher they fight. Being there for someone's last moments on earth is beyond words. It has changed me for the better.
Meredith has grown so much and lost so many. She is so strong. Props to the writers, and giant props to Ellen Pompeo. She brings Mer to life for us with such style and humility.
I find it took Meredith a lot to finally be able to be in the place she is even with all the death she has faced over the years from losing her dog to her husband but a small part of me wished she would have told her dad say hi to Lexi for me it would have been even more heartfelt because you can see Mer misses her kid sister
Molly was there and said goodbye, she just ended up going home right before he died. It's very hard to plan international travel and get flexible tickets. Normally you need to buy your tickets ahead of time.
All those years he came in the hospital was his way of checking up on Meredith. He couldve went to any other hospital but they went to the one Meredith was working at. In his own way he looked out for her and for that you gotta give him credit. Her mom was a handful and with everything they have been through it was good that Meredith was there for him in the end.
Thatcher didn’t deserve being treated like garbage... I liked this misunderstood character. And I’m so astonished for being waited sooo long to see him dying in one episode. :-( I recognize Jeff Perry’s talent. So sad, gosh ! #inconsolable
I don’t agree. Ellis behaved ungratefully with him. She said of him that he was an incompetent, a numbskull. She never gave him the choice and left him like a shit. Meredith grew up without father because of her mother. Thatcher has suffered all his life, and it's really unfair. Because he is seen as the wicked in the story, the absent father. Whereas Ellis deprived him of his daughter.
@@j.lionbird I agree that Ellis is obviously at the root of alot of these issues. She behaved deplorably and was ruthless and vindictive toward Thatcher, but he was the one whodidnt fight for his child. He left her at the mercy of that, to deal with it alone. He was a wonderful father to Lexie and Molly. When he'd gotten his life back together he could have fought for Mer but he didnt. He just discarded her. And that is more unfair than what he's been through. Blaming Meredith for Susan's death was weak and cruel and that's on him not Ellis. Forcing Lexie to care for him, to worry about him, to suffer through his alcoholism when she'd just lost her mother, that's on him not Ellis.
I admit that it does not excuse his attitude towards Meredith, and the fact of not having fought enough to get her back. But the character always had a fragile side, so it was obvious that he lost control after Susan's death. Including falling into alcoholism. Nevertheless, I can not help but feel empathy for his character... :-) Forgive my english which is quite shaky, sometimes... x) Hi from France !
@@j.lionbird hello in france! Your english is fine, you've been very clear and easy to understand. I agree about Thatcher's fragility and on some level i think he may have believed much of what Ellis said when criticising and belittling him, so that he perhaps thought Meredith was better off without him... but even so, i think abandoning her was unforgivable.
This was a very sad moment, because this was the last time Tatcher knew he always did everything wrong about his daughter, literally, his last time, his very last minute alive on Earth, in his own death, knowing he always should be to enjoy that part of his family he abandoned.
Omg, I legit forgot Lexie was dead at this point. I'm rewatching season 8 atm and in my head, just now watching this clip, I was assuming she was there too... 😭
I'm sorry for your loss. I lost mine 6 months ago, this scene before didn't hit me, but looking how bad he looks reminds me of my own dad now. My dad also left when I was 5, just like Thatcher.
@@missitheachievementhuntres560 Please accept my deepest sympathies. This scene really hit me hard since I am in a way jealous of Mer since she got to be with her dad at his bedside when he died. I didn't get to have that chance to say goodbye to my dad when he passed away. By the time I got to the hospital he's already gone. It's painful to be a part of the dead dads club.
Let’s be real...Richard has been the only REAL FATHER to Meredith in the entirety of Grey’s. Didn’t anyone notice how it hit her harder when Richard was sick than her biological father passing? Or how protective he was of her when he found out about her and Derek in season 1 even to the extent of calling Addison to Seattle? How he REFUSED to give Derek chief out of worry for how it would affect Meredith’s relationship with Derek due to how it made it difficult for Adele while he was chief. Or when Meredith’s medical license was in jeopardy, he put his medical legacy on the line to protect her? He bottle fed her when she was a baby, and looked after her while Ellis was in Surgery. She has his medical power of attorney!!! I wish Meredith would ask him to adopt her as adult, that would be a tearjerker. Maggie has a dad. Richard truly has filled that role in Meredith’s life. Plus, some cute grandpa moments with Zola, Bailey, and Ellis.
I think she also felt like she needed to do this fort Lexie. I don't think she did it just for him. Lexie would have been by his side but since she couldn't be, Meredith was. She knew that Lexie would have begged her to be there if she was still alive. It was right to do.
Even Alex told her just go get the closure let him have peace or just seat there, cause even kare in S10 Ep11,12,13 he was in the same position though Alex before forgiving him Alex beat him in Joe's bar a day before he came back to the hospital Alex sat by his bed until his last breath, that's why he convinced Mer to go.
THE WAY SHE LOOKED UP AT THE END WITH HER EYES FULL OF TEARS SAID IT ALL...I CANT SEE THAT WITHOUT CRYING...POOR MEREDITH...SO HEARTBREAKING AND FRUSTRATING...
I can't imagine doing this to my absentee father. I cannot imagine giving him closure on his deathbed because he doesn't deserve that. I can't imagine being the bigger person after spending the rest of my life asking myself why my father didn't love me enough to be there.
Am glad when Mer and Alex were operating on a patient, Alex told Mer just go see him and Mer told him will he take away the trauma, the crying from Ellies that I went through, and Alex told her just go seat there even if you don't want to talk just bid him good by and she listen but it's good she went, she has a big heart of forgiveness.
Everything Meredith has gone through ..seriously. Anyone would break!! Most people would break from like 1/10 of all of that 😢! I would not be able to stand
i don't think you guys are giving Thatcher enough credit, he not only lost his wife, the person that he had 2 kids with, but he lost HIS DAUGHTER, and yes they never talk about how he deals with Lexi's death and i know that he wasn't the best father to Meredith but he suffer a lot as well
As someone who’s lost a father that I didn’t have a good relationship with I can relate to how Meredith was feeling in this moment. I only wish I could of had this sort of moment with my father before he died. It’s a funny thing loving someone you could just as easily hate.
Maybe because despite all you've gone through with him, you have this 'offspring instinct' that tells you he is your father and that will never change.
Meredith named her baby Ellies cause after Derek's death, its like her story and Ellies story collided , the difference is when Mer ran away she didn't commit suicide, and she didn't give her baby for adoption and she loves her kids more than Ellies loved her, somehow for her naming her baby Ellies because her story when derek died its like the same when Richard left ellies difference is derek died, but I have a feeling that if Meredith stayed in seattle after Derek's death, I felt like she could have had a miscarriage plus she could have done what Ellies did my trying suicide, so it's good she left for a year.
I was sobbing during these scenes.. especially when she talked about her children and told him about maggie. 😭😭😭😭 Btw, I wonder what happened to the "tatted up skank " lol
I really wish Meredith names Ellis lexi instead because Ellis was a horrible mother to her and didn’t love her and didn’t hide it. She scared Meredith for the rest of her life but trying to kill herself in front of her daughter. Meanwhile Lexi was kind and loved Meredith and was an amazing sister to her. So Ellis name should have been Lexi Susan Shepard. Susan because she was more of a mother to Meredith than Ellis ever was and she was only in Mereditha life for a short period of time. Like if u agree
Coming up from f@up family myself divorce parents It’s never easy sometimes inside of feeling that the whole thing is going to be easier for you it’s more like you are always having to choose even though you should not have to although mar did keep thach at out of her families lives she didn’t want her kids to be subjected to the things in the past that she went through. Which I gotta say is a good choice for her because you have to be very careful with you subject kids to but she has grown up by leaps and boundaries by just being able to get there as he does dies that day.
Her hair and wardrobe in this episode make her look like the alternate reality Meredith from Season 8.... when she was a preppy suck up, besties with Kepner, and engaged to nerdy Alex.
I thought derek dying was painful enough. I can’t stop crying everytime I watch this show it makes me cry before I even finish the episodes. I lost my brother January 13th and it was so painful. I will not stop watching. When this is on all calls and texts will be ignored until further notice.
@@madisonharvin1342 : Lol. Who said she is ugly?. Seems like u negatively interpreted what i said. So pls take your negativity somewhere else !. We don't need it here.
@@madisonharvin1342 : I didn't say she is ugly either !. You are the one who brought ugliness into the table. Oh.. why this negativity dear ?. Be positive !
Meredith has loss her parents, husband, best friend (O'Malley), half-sister, a dog and a good friend (Sloan). Meredith has suffered numerous trauma - the bomb, the drowning, the aircraft crash and the assault in the ER. She lost her person Yang and her other best friend Stevens. She lost her close working colleagues Kepner and teacher Torres. Meredith is made of iron!
I hope I never have this kind of relationship with my dad but he refuses to work on things with me. We are currently not speaking and it saddens me to think that i could possibly end up like this some 20-30 years later because we never did fix things.
Meredith didn’t owe him anything and she would have been right and a good person if she ignored this, but she doesn’t have many people in her life and she felt that she needed to be there for him if not only for herself
Ok so I feel bad for mer obviously in this scene but does anyone else feel rlly bad for Molly? I mean, first her mom dies, then Lexie dies, and now her dad's gone too. This scene would have been a perfect opportunity for her and mer to reconnect. Molly's lost her entire family.
Eeh when Meredith said she had another sister Thatcher mention Molly and said you were never close and Mer looked at him and he knew he was the course of it .
Remember when his wife Susan put more of an effort to make things right between Meredith and Thatcher than Thatcher himself? I get he did not really get to know Meredith as she got older because Ellis ran off with her to Boston but what stopped him from fighting for custody or trying to contact her? His anger with Richard? Or with Ellis? Did he begin drinking at that time?
The parent/child relationship is complicated. You’re very lucky if you have a loving healthy relationship with your parents-many don’t. Meredith was able to reach a point of love and forgiveness with her father. Some can’t and that’s ok. At his core, I don’t think that Thatcher was a bad person, just a flawed one who experienced trauma because he was married to a person who really didn’t love him. He didn’t deal with it in a healthy way and caused pain to Meredith and others. Some people should never have been parents. They are either too damaged or simply not good people and their poison contaminates everything, including their children.
I loved this heartbreaking scene, but why isn't his other daughter (molly, i think) not with him? They must have been more close, right? (Sorry if it was mentioned in the episode, haven't watched it yet)
Poor Meredith...her life was terrible. She deserved a chance to have a daddy and to be happy with Tatcher, not to see him diyng in her arms. Everything is so bad for her.
i love this show. i do not think ellen pompeo aged very well, which is surprising. i think she’s down to earth though and didn’t spend her money with all that fake shit in your face she just let herself age!
This episode made me feel like Thatcher waited to see Meredith one last time before he died.
Exactly, I didn't even like thatcher and I'm crying.......😢😢😢
He definitely did she needed this time with him too
Lexie would have loved this. ( i mean Meredith and their Dad making peace and her comforting their Dad in his last moments especially as a Lexie wasn’t there.) But i bet she was watching them. I haven’t seen the whole episode as only really watch Lexie and Marks story.
This look on her face when Tatcher dies is like: Yeah, I just lost someone else.
Same thought I had!
It’s the hard swallow that says it all for me
Meredith is parentless, but the truth is she's been that way since she was 5 years old. Her parents were shitty and didn't do right by their daughter. Her father could've fought for custody instead he decided to create a new little family and forgot all about the daughter he already had. Meredith owed him nothing, but if there's anything she's learned in her life is that you've got to say things while you have the opportunity because people die.
Jameelia Moonrise that’s not entirely true. Even though he’s not her biological father, she still has Richard.
I agree. Meredith didn’t owe him anything. If anything, he owed Meredith. She saved his life by donating half of her liver to him. I think she did it more for Lexie than him.
Mer owed him nothing, but because she loved Lexie, she gave him her liver. She's a hell of a lot stronger than I would be. I love the way they write her, and I've felt this crazy connection with her since I started watching a few months back.
Been awhile since I watched but he left Mer alone with Ellis for another family because Ellis didn't want him. No contact either because he didn't want to or because Ellis never let them talk.
1. His new wife didn't mind Meredith she liked Mer but then Thatcher blames Mer for his wife's death even tho she wasn't involved didn't he slap her? Even tho she just wanted to comfort her never there for her father??
2. his oldest daughter hated Meredith for some reason, never seen again.
3. Lexie always wanted to get to know Mer, left her family to become Meredith's family basically then died.
4. All the derek drama choosing 2 other woman over Mer & flirt with another while married & died.
So yea I hated Thatcher at times but felt bad on how Ellis treated him, he loved Ellis & was just thrown to the crub because her real love didn't leave his wife and Ellis blamed poor young Mer for it all. Loved Lexie (will 4ever miss her) All in all Meredith deserves better, she better have a happy ending for her character she suffered so much not including all the other stuff she had to deal with.
lilyxavier1990 dont get me wrong i dont like thatcher but to say he didn’t try isn’t right. Yes he left meredith with ellis but she didn’t give him much choice, ellis ran him out of their home in hopes of having a proper relationship with richard but he chose to stay with his wife. After that ellis LEFT seattle with meredith and moved to boston, where they lived for a time. Thatcher in no way is or was a good father but lets look at the whole picture, he was verbal abused and belittled by his wife, endured it as she did the same with their daughter and stayed with her knowing that she was cheating on him with another man. After time he remarried and had another family, he easily could have tried to integrate meredith into his new family but he still probably feared ellis, lets be real she wasn’t exactly the sweetest woman.
Ohh and molly was the youngest of the grey sisters. Lexi was susan and thatcher eldest. And i just want to say i didnt like the relationship that the writers made between susan and meredith because all that woman wanted to do was love her like one of her own daughters, just for them to have meredith be downright rude to her.
Meredith is too kind. She did not owe Thatcher a damn thing (especially after he slapped her) and she still went to see him and comfort him in his last moments.
I mean..she gave him a piece of her liver even after the slap.. So it's easy to tell that Shonda created a kind and forgiving character here..
It really shows her character development from the first few seasons
I always disliked Thatcher however didn’t necessarily blame him for his behavior until he slapped Meredith. I hated him since then. She showed him grace and mercy.
It's about not hanging on to hurts and letting those create guilt and regret. Mere has reached out and done her bit. She won't have anything to feel guilty or regretful about.
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She did that for Lexie! She didn’t want Lexie to lose her father
Meredith showed so much grace in this moment. She knew he made mistakes and he was far from a good guy but she let all that go because in the end he is her father and all he wanted was to spend his last moments getting to know her and her kids. And for her to see that he wasn’t a waste of space he did somthing good with the liver she gave him. He’s a broken man but I think she knows what that’s like. This made me sad.. i didn’t particularly like thatcher but man watching Meredith lose one more person cut somthing in me
taylor asay he’s not a perfect man but he did try to get to know her in the end , he didn’t want to cause her more pain when derek died by reaching out to her so he kept if thru Richard , because he knew he had already given her so much pain in her childhood, she’s very strong despite being left behind by her father and neglected by her mother , Derek gave her great love compassion understanding and showed her she is everything , he left 3 beautiful babies so she would never be alone, Ellis gave her strong will and drive to succeed and intelegence , beauty, but thatcher gave her his gentleness and the ability to love, she’s the best of both of them ,
@@dorislacaze8475 Derek wasn't all that great. Christina was the one who really knew Meredith and accepted her for who she really was. If it wasn't for Christina, Meredith would be lost. I don't like it that people act like Derek was great. He wasn't! Meredith, was struggling to get to know Lexie and Maggie but in the end she was a better sister/ sibling then Derek ever was for his sister's! Meredith is real and Derek was just a guy who had a mask on and pretend that he was a really nice guy, but in the end, he was the one who was married and didn't say it to Meredith. Meredith is strong way stronger then Derek ever was
@@joycewesseldijk4445 yeah but love is powerful. It can make you feel wanted and found
I hate my father and i don't know how to make it right. Ive done the whole forgivness. Tried to make amends. Knowing blaming him wont fix my problems. But now I've realized i have the right to hate him. Im tired of it. Whats the point.
Your word is more touching than the scene 😭
😭😭😭😭Why am I even crying?!? I didn’t even like Thatcher...
Me too
Asayehhh, à hate the man die. Why am I even crying too.
Omg same
You're not crying for Thatcher, you're crying for Meredith and all she has lost
Same.....😢😢😢😢
Even though Meredith had such complicated relationships with both her parents, you really see how both Webber and Bailey filling in those roles so much throughout the show ❤❤❤
One of the best episodes in the show. Such a great episode. Meredith is my favorite character. She is so strong and brave. I didn’t really like thatcher (especially when he slapped Meredith) but seeing him die really touched me. He was at Derek’s funeral and Meredith never knew and he wanted to know her kids. Both Ellen Pompeo and Jeff Perry’s aching are amazing. What an episode. 10/10 for me.
Hestia Moon omg I forgot about that good thing you reminded me about it. Yes I totally agree about the April part. It’s just I loved the scenes between mer and thatcher because it was nice to see them finally talk after those years and she came just in time to see him before he died
Meredith has literally had the worst life
No, she literally hasn't. She has suffered alot of trauma and been party to a shocking number of tragedies. But there is worse than what Mer has been through.
@@fe5018 I mean yeah, technically, but she has also has a real horrid life when you look at it. How many have had it worse in real life America? She's lost her mum, her sister, her husband, her dad and lost a baby. She was in an explosion, almost drowned and died, was in a shooting and watched her husband almost whilst her best friend operated, she watched her mother try and kill herself, she had a bad childhood, then had to watch her mother slowly succumb to Alzheimer's whilst she suffered abuse from her, her friend died, she temporarily lost her daughter, she was in an ambulance crash with a babies life, a doctor who was there when her husband died spent a year in the same hospital, she got chocked out by a patient, almost bleeds out giving birth. AND... her dog died of cancer!
@@Mr0011011 and the plane crash!!
@@Mr0011011 YEA!!!!
@@fe5018 but yet she still had the worst life
Meredith is a fictional character but yet I can't stop feeling such empathy for her. Everything she went through and everything she witnessed is so heartbreaking, enough for a person to fall into a deep depression and never want to get up again but she did and that's why I love her so much and the way she's written. She used to be this naive young intern who fell for the sexy older attending but she then became this huge realistic, inspiration. She lost her friends,husband,mother,father,sister yet she keeps her head up everyday and keeps being an amazing mother. Grey's anatomy definitely changed over the years but I can't imagine how it'll be like once we stop seeing Meredith's life. I can't even imagine how the last episode will be like
In all honesty, I didn't like Thatcher, just the way they made him out to be on the show and I still remember him slapping Meredith, which I didn't like, even though he lost his wife due to the hiccups around the same time, it wasn't good for him to do that to Meredith, who tried everything then
But I will admit, this is a good death scene. He may have never been a good father to Meredith, he may have never been there, but at least the two got to make amends and spend his final moments together. It's even more beautiful that they talked about her children and how good her life is with them. At least he died knowing she was happy.
He was put through a lot, he married a woman who cheated on him, got custody of his daughter, unknowns to him had another child with the man that she cheated on him with and as far as we know had no contact with thatcher unless necessary. I think Meredith reminded him of Ellis way too much in good ways and bad. He is a tragic character but he had his moments.
I think Thatcher was very bad at handling stress. He slapped Meredith after she told him Susan died and became a drunk, he went half way across the country when Lexie died, he went to Derek’s funeral but didn’t end up talking to Meredith, when Ellis kicked him he just left and didn’t take Meredith with him.
I think she understands that because she was pretty shitty at too. Considering the banner of avoidance and tequila she lived under for so many years. In the end it’s good that she came so she could some closure. Unfortunately, they never had a relationship.
I never liked Thatcher but this was of the saddest death scenes I’ve seen on Greys Anatomy in my opinion.
This scene was not really meant to give Thatcher any depth. We can tell that he was feeling remorse and wanted things to be right - this is, needless to say, expected from someone suffering from a terminal disease. This scene was meant to give depth to Meredith... She is still on her journey. She is still at a stage where she makes decisions, choices, mistakes, a stage where she learns, improves, betters herself. It was wonderful to see that despite being reserved, excessively independent and somewhat eternally sad, Meredith found strength and empathy in herself to provide comfort to this man. She is a great fictional character.
goog god ! that Thatcher guy's acting is amazing
I stopped watching Grey's Anatomy after season 1 or 2 but have been binge watching during COVID. I watched more Scandal and it's hard to come back and see him on this show. I keep expecting him to do something horrible, kill people, plot...hehehehe
The actor playing Thatcher did a great job. This is what it kinda is like at the bedside of someone who has "slipped away quietly." One minute they are there, the next the light just goes out of their eyes. Death isn't pretty or romantic or easy or calm. Most people's bodies struggle for those last few breaths of air whether they want to or not. The stronger the character the tougher they fight. Being there for someone's last moments on earth is beyond words. It has changed me for the better.
Meredith has grown so much and lost so many. She is so strong. Props to the writers, and giant props to Ellen Pompeo. She brings Mer to life for us with such style and humility.
How many people will Meredith loose !!!!!
Prsh V I mean seriously
tbh i wouldnt be surprised if she died cuz shonda’s a hoe
Shonda is a cunt, on all her shows she always kills the favorites. I stopped watching after Derek died. I wanna spit on her
@@roxana4136 Shonda doesn't write the show anymore. Krista does
@@krystle058 Shonda doesn't write the show anymore. Krista does
When she rolled her eyes she was just saying in her head “why does this happen to me?”
The acting was incredible! I gotta close the flood gates now!
I find it took Meredith a lot to finally be able to be in the place she is even with all the death she has faced over the years from losing her dog to her husband but a small part of me wished she would have told her dad say hi to Lexi for me it would have been even more heartfelt because you can see Mer misses her kid sister
Elen Pompeo nailed the scene also the actor who played the role of her father. So emotional
5 am
Getting ready for work.
Getting my daughter ready for school.
I’m watching this.
I’m balling my eyes out!
Damn you Grey’s.
Stephanie Caskinette omg glad I’m not the only one lmao... like why would I do this to myself at 5am.
Douglas Michael exactly! I should have known to wait til tonight!
5 am? Is the school a 2 hour drive away?
Hitopopamus I have to be at work by 615. It’s a 20 minute drive. I have myself and a 5 year old to get ready have everything packed.
Can we meet Molly again? We haven’t seen her since what season 2 or season 3?
Molly is death.
Molly is dead
Asian Girl When did she die? Wasn’t she married to some army guy and went to live with him?
She didn't die
Asian Girl Molly is Owen’s mom not Lexie’s mom so she is not dead
Meridith was the only one on his deathbed even thought she was the one he abandoned. That just shows the type of person she is
Molly was there and said goodbye, she just ended up going home right before he died. It's very hard to plan international travel and get flexible tickets. Normally you need to buy your tickets ahead of time.
All those years he came in the hospital was his way of checking up on Meredith. He couldve went to any other hospital but they went to the one Meredith was working at. In his own way he looked out for her and for that you gotta give him credit. Her mom was a handful and with everything they have been through it was good that Meredith was there for him in the end.
Hopefully Shonda won't kill Meredith's kids or Maggie too 😑😡😒
Meme Zahir nah Maggie can go she’s pretty annoying or Amelia
@@nitureyno7458 ya ur right
Nitureyno 74 took the words out of my mouth!! In my eyes, Mer has one sister,Lexi and Cristina is her person..that’s it.
@@nitureyno7458 yasss maggie can go and they can bring back Molly we never saw her again after her mom's funeral.
Nitureyno 74 Maggie yes but not Amelia
Thatcher didn’t deserve being treated like garbage... I liked this misunderstood character. And I’m so astonished for being waited sooo long to see him dying in one episode. :-( I recognize Jeff Perry’s talent. So sad, gosh ! #inconsolable
Thatcher behaved like garbage. He was a well constructed character though.
I don’t agree.
Ellis behaved ungratefully with him.
She said of him that he was an incompetent, a numbskull.
She never gave him the choice and left him like a shit.
Meredith grew up without father because of her mother.
Thatcher has suffered all his life, and it's really unfair.
Because he is seen as the wicked in the story, the absent father.
Whereas Ellis deprived him of his daughter.
@@j.lionbird I agree that Ellis is obviously at the root of alot of these issues. She behaved deplorably and was ruthless and vindictive toward Thatcher, but he was the one whodidnt fight for his child. He left her at the mercy of that, to deal with it alone. He was a wonderful father to Lexie and Molly. When he'd gotten his life back together he could have fought for Mer but he didnt. He just discarded her. And that is more unfair than what he's been through. Blaming Meredith for Susan's death was weak and cruel and that's on him not Ellis. Forcing Lexie to care for him, to worry about him, to suffer through his alcoholism when she'd just lost her mother, that's on him not Ellis.
I admit that it does not excuse his attitude towards Meredith, and the fact of not having fought enough to get her back.
But the character always had a fragile side, so it was obvious that he lost control after Susan's death. Including falling into alcoholism.
Nevertheless, I can not help but feel empathy for his character... :-)
Forgive my english which is quite shaky, sometimes... x)
Hi from France !
@@j.lionbird hello in france! Your english is fine, you've been very clear and easy to understand. I agree about Thatcher's fragility and on some level i think he may have believed much of what Ellis said when criticising and belittling him, so that he perhaps thought Meredith was better off without him... but even so, i think abandoning her was unforgivable.
This was a very sad moment, because this was the last time Tatcher knew he always did everything wrong about his daughter, literally, his last time, his very last minute alive on Earth, in his own death, knowing he always should be to enjoy that part of his family he abandoned.
Shonda you killed us all
Damn it Lexie should be there, talking about her kids, forgiving her father, telling him how much she loves him. Being alive.
Omg, I legit forgot Lexie was dead at this point. I'm rewatching season 8 atm and in my head, just now watching this clip, I was assuming she was there too... 😭
I lost my dad last month. This scene is really heartbreaking to watch. 😭
Im sorry
I'm sorry for your loss. I lost mine 6 months ago, this scene before didn't hit me, but looking how bad he looks reminds me of my own dad now. My dad also left when I was 5, just like Thatcher.
@@missitheachievementhuntres560 Please accept my deepest sympathies.
This scene really hit me hard since I am in a way jealous of Mer since she got to be with her dad at his bedside when he died. I didn't get to have that chance to say goodbye to my dad when he passed away. By the time I got to the hospital he's already gone. It's painful to be a part of the dead dads club.
Let’s be real...Richard has been the only REAL FATHER to Meredith in the entirety of Grey’s. Didn’t anyone notice how it hit her harder when Richard was sick than her biological father passing? Or how protective he was of her when he found out about her and Derek in season 1 even to the extent of calling Addison to Seattle? How he REFUSED to give Derek chief out of worry for how it would affect Meredith’s relationship with Derek due to how it made it difficult for Adele while he was chief. Or when Meredith’s medical license was in jeopardy, he put his medical legacy on the line to protect her? He bottle fed her when she was a baby, and looked after her while Ellis was in Surgery. She has his medical power of attorney!!! I wish Meredith would ask him to adopt her as adult, that would be a tearjerker. Maggie has a dad. Richard truly has filled that role in Meredith’s life. Plus, some cute grandpa moments with Zola, Bailey, and Ellis.
I think she also felt like she needed to do this fort Lexie. I don't think she did it just for him. Lexie would have been by his side but since she couldn't be, Meredith was. She knew that Lexie would have begged her to be there if she was still alive. It was right to do.
Even Alex told her just go get the closure let him have peace or just seat there, cause even kare in S10 Ep11,12,13 he was in the same position though Alex before forgiving him Alex beat him in Joe's bar a day before he came back to the hospital Alex sat by his bed until his last breath, that's why he convinced Mer to go.
This was so sad tears
Meredith is like, here we go again, another member of my family dying!
THE WAY SHE LOOKED UP AT THE END WITH HER EYES FULL OF TEARS SAID IT ALL...I CANT SEE THAT WITHOUT CRYING...POOR MEREDITH...SO HEARTBREAKING AND FRUSTRATING...
Love that this popped up in feed on Mother’s Day! Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers out there❤️❤️
In this moment she channeled Lexie the most
I can't imagine doing this to my absentee father. I cannot imagine giving him closure on his deathbed because he doesn't deserve that. I can't imagine being the bigger person after spending the rest of my life asking myself why my father didn't love me enough to be there.
He deserved to meet his grandkids 💔
No, he didn't. He was a horrible person.
Am glad when Mer and Alex were operating on a patient, Alex told Mer just go see him and Mer told him will he take away the trauma, the crying from Ellies that I went through, and Alex told her just go seat there even if you don't want to talk just bid him good by and she listen but it's good she went, she has a big heart of forgiveness.
Everything Meredith has gone through ..seriously. Anyone would break!! Most people would break from like 1/10 of all of that 😢!
I would not be able to stand
i don't think you guys are giving Thatcher enough credit, he not only lost his wife, the person that he had 2 kids with, but he lost HIS DAUGHTER, and yes they never talk about how he deals with
Lexi's death and i know that he wasn't the best father to Meredith but he suffer a lot as well
Plz have mercy on Meredith ....
No more funerals....
No Human should endure such magnitude of loss....
I beg you Shonda....
As someone who’s lost a father that I didn’t have a good relationship with I can relate to how Meredith was feeling in this moment. I only wish I could of had this sort of moment with my father before he died. It’s a funny thing loving someone you could just as easily hate.
Maybe because despite all you've gone through with him, you have this 'offspring instinct' that tells you he is your father and that will never change.
merideths heart is so big for someone whos had so much trauma
Yea I’ll never get over him slapping Meredith and blaming her for his wife’s death
You never get used to it death. Never. No matter how many times you witness it and see someone literally take their last breath.
who thought meredith should've named ellis after her sister lexie instead? 🤚🏻
Meredith named her baby Ellies cause after Derek's death, its like her story and Ellies story collided , the difference is when Mer ran away she didn't commit suicide, and she didn't give her baby for adoption and she loves her kids more than Ellies loved her, somehow for her naming her baby Ellies because her story when derek died its like the same when Richard left ellies difference is derek died, but I have a feeling that if Meredith stayed in seattle after Derek's death, I felt like she could have had a miscarriage plus she could have done what Ellies did my trying suicide, so it's good she left for a year.
I was sobbing during these scenes.. especially when she talked about her children and told him about maggie. 😭😭😭😭
Btw, I wonder what happened to the "tatted up skank " lol
He probably left her too
Yes, Danielle was her name. I'd like to know what happened too!
@@monalisasmile6629 lol I forgot her name. 🤦♀️
Bailey : Funny Grandpa died
Meredid : it’s not funny.
Bailey; Funny I know it’s not but Funny am not sad either.
It kinda feels like Meredith is flexing to Thatcher like:I wish u can see then cuz they are so beautiful:)
Wow.. The last thing he heard was stuff about his grand children 💕💕
But what happened to Molly?? She should’ve been in this episode.
She died.
@@vyentro29 when did Molly died. I never saw thaf
She was there but had to go back to Bahrain where her husband is posted with the military.
@@vyentro29 lol are you confusing Molly with Lexie? Surely not.
@@roxana4136 she's alive and well.
This scene is fuckin heart breaking seriously
Mad they couldn’t give him another episode only 1 episode and he dies like wtf 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I actually felt like I was going to cry.
I really wish Meredith names Ellis lexi instead because Ellis was a horrible mother to her and didn’t love her and didn’t hide it. She scared Meredith for the rest of her life but trying to kill herself in front of her daughter. Meanwhile Lexi was kind and loved Meredith and was an amazing sister to her. So Ellis name should have been Lexi Susan Shepard. Susan because she was more of a mother to Meredith than Ellis ever was and she was only in Mereditha life for a short period of time. Like if u agree
I agree with you. it would have been really sweet if she named her daughter Alexandra. But I feel like it would have been too hard for her.
😢❤️❤️❤️ this touches so hard
Coming up from f@up family myself divorce parents It’s never easy sometimes inside of feeling that the whole thing is going to be easier for you it’s more like you are always having to choose even though you should not have to although mar did keep thach at out of her families lives she didn’t want her kids to be subjected to the things in the past that she went through. Which I gotta say is a good choice for her because you have to be very careful with you subject kids to but she has grown up by leaps and boundaries by just being able to get there as he does dies that day.
Her hair and wardrobe in this episode make her look like the alternate reality Meredith from Season 8.... when she was a preppy suck up, besties with Kepner, and engaged to nerdy Alex.
everything about what you just described was so wrong in that episode i'm cringing just thinking about it
At least he didn't die alone. 🌹
This scene broke me
I wish I could tell Shonda thank you...
It hit home.
She was the only one there when he died the only living person he had by his side I think I’m happy the way he died because he didn’t go alone
This Is So Sad And I Love Greys Anatomy So Much
I didn't even care for Thatcher, so why am I crying?! How many more people does Meredith need to lose? Come on Shonda!
When Meredith sighed in my head I was like “welp another one down”
Love this moment so much!
I dont know i am going to cry at this moment. I dont even like Mers father and i wasnt missing him at all
Where is Ellen Pompeo Emmy ?!??? You can literally feel how empty Meredith is because of all the people who she lost.
OKAY, I'M GONNA CRY
Andddd I'm crying.
Gets me every time.
When Thatcher finally died, Mer sighed like "Thank God I can end the charade now!"
After Derek died she became as dark and twisty and badass than ever
Whats wrong with shonda.every season something bad happens to mereditg
It's a tv show....
@@SR21990 shit , I thought it was the Olympics 😅😅
I think she genuinely wants us to be crying. What a cunt
I felt her pain... this was the worst day of my life, having to say goodbye to my dad...
I thought derek dying was painful enough. I can’t stop crying everytime I watch this show it makes me cry before I even finish the episodes. I lost my brother January 13th and it was so painful. I will not stop watching. When this is on all calls and texts will be ignored until further notice.
My god. She looks very old. Making me realise I am old too !
SK M it’s called aging. she looks beautiful for her age take that negativity somewhere else
@@madisonharvin1342 : Lol. Who said she is ugly?. Seems like u negatively interpreted what i said. So pls take your negativity somewhere else !. We don't need it here.
SK M you’re the one saying she looks very old sweetie i never said she was ugly.
@@madisonharvin1342 : I didn't say she is ugly either !. You are the one who brought ugliness into the table. Oh.. why this negativity dear ?. Be positive !
Meredith has loss her parents, husband, best friend (O'Malley), half-sister, a dog and a good friend (Sloan). Meredith has suffered numerous trauma - the bomb, the drowning, the aircraft crash and the assault in the ER. She lost her person Yang and her other best friend Stevens. She lost her close working colleagues Kepner and teacher Torres. Meredith is made of iron!
@Hudson Donald agreee to disagree
I hope I never have this kind of relationship with my dad but he refuses to work on things with me. We are currently not speaking and it saddens me to think that i could possibly end up like this some 20-30 years later because we never did fix things.
I saw this episode and started speaking to my dad again but i regret 😭 ..he is again just being him.
It always gets too real for me to handle myself
I’m gonna cry when I watch this episode
Y'all did meredith so wrong with that thumbnail
Meredith didn’t owe him anything and she would have been right and a good person if she ignored this, but she doesn’t have many people in her life and she felt that she needed to be there for him if not only for herself
How messed up would it have been if she said “time of death” 😂😂😂
Ok so I feel bad for mer obviously in this scene but does anyone else feel rlly bad for Molly? I mean, first her mom dies, then Lexie dies, and now her dad's gone too. This scene would have been a perfect opportunity for her and mer to reconnect. Molly's lost her entire family.
Eeh when Meredith said she had another sister Thatcher mention Molly and said you were never close and Mer looked at him and he knew he was the course of it .
Remember when his wife Susan put more of an effort to make things right between Meredith and Thatcher than Thatcher himself? I get he did not really get to know Meredith as she got older because Ellis ran off with her to Boston but what stopped him from fighting for custody or trying to contact her? His anger with Richard? Or with Ellis? Did he begin drinking at that time?
The parent/child relationship is complicated. You’re very lucky if you have a loving healthy relationship with your parents-many don’t. Meredith was able to reach a point of love and forgiveness with her father. Some can’t and that’s ok. At his core, I don’t think that Thatcher was a bad person, just a flawed one who experienced trauma because he was married to a person who really didn’t love him. He didn’t deal with it in a healthy way and caused pain to Meredith and others. Some people should never have been parents. They are either too damaged or simply not good people and their poison contaminates everything, including their children.
I loved this heartbreaking scene, but why isn't his other daughter (molly, i think) not with him? They must have been more close, right?
(Sorry if it was mentioned in the episode, haven't watched it yet)
They mentioned that Molly was there before but had to return to Bahrain with her children, probably because of her army husband's deployment/school
cyrus & thatcher
I kind of like the way they ended thatchers story as Meredith was finally able to talk to home and they sort of made up
Poor Meredith...her life was terrible. She deserved a chance to have a daddy and to be happy with Tatcher, not to see him diyng in her arms. Everything is so bad for her.
She went from a girl to a woman. She truly forgives him
One more meredith
Thatcher and Ellis should have shown up on the beach!
LMAO WHY SHE LOOK LIKE THAT ON THUMBNAIL
i love this show. i do not think ellen pompeo aged very well, which is surprising. i think she’s down to earth though and didn’t spend her money with all that fake shit in your face she just let herself age!
Who's chopping onions 😭💔
And.... another one of Merediths people gone
Exactly...😢😢😢😭😭