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  • @StevenEveral
    @StevenEveral Před 7 lety +3275

    Target got into the Canadian market with too many stores, too fast. Target should have been much more selective in opening stores in Canada. They should have focused on Canadian population centers, IE maybe 2 stores in Toronto, one in Ottawa, one in Montreal, maybe one in Winnipeg or Calgary, and one in Vancouver. Then build on that initial base.

    • @kaitie648
      @kaitie648 Před 7 lety +287

      Steven Manning, EXACTLY. At the very most they shouldn't have opened more than 25 stores throughout Canada initially. You don't go somewhere new and open 189 stores. That's stupidity on the part of Target. They could have made this work and they screwed it up by opening up too many stores too quickly.

    • @BellyJae
      @BellyJae Před 7 lety +68

      Kaitie Montegomery We had a chain do the same here in southwest Arizona. Fresh & Easy opened a ton of stores all at once and now they're all gone. Poof!

    • @StevenEveral
      @StevenEveral Před 7 lety +21

      BellyJae There was a regional grocery store chain that bought up all the Albertsons and some of the Safeway stores in Western Washington/Oregon called Haggen Grocery that did something similar to this in 2012. By 2015, Haggen was bankrupt, and closed 98% of all their stores.

    • @CDeuce152
      @CDeuce152 Před 7 lety +13

      BellyJae Also shady partnerships that ballooned prices of items compared to its competitors.

    • @angelaweston608
      @angelaweston608 Před 7 lety +31

      Steven Manning It wasn't just that, they were unappealing stores, nothing to draw you in & high prices. Zellers was a great chain & missed by many. Target has no relationship with Cda. It was a very poor business move.

  • @SpencerKelly93
    @SpencerKelly93 Před 7 lety +515

    Why would they open SO MANY STORES?! And so quickly. Generally speaking, we you enter a new market, you do a proof of concept and prove that people like your stores, it's also easier to keep operating because you don't have the expense of 130 stores...you only have 10 or 20. If they're struggling, it's not the end of the world. They can be propped up and worked with to get back in the green. But with THAT much overhead, it would be near impossible. Very strange strategy on the part of Target.

    • @Astromontana
      @Astromontana Před 7 lety +50

      Yea I agree with ya. Target was either too ambitious or too over confident in thinking that they can steal some of Wal-Mart's Canadian consumers. They should've open only 10-20 stores in major cities like Toronto or Vancouver to test the waters.

    • @MultiBlueblanket
      @MultiBlueblanket Před 7 lety +7

      I think it was way too much ambition. It could've been that their success in the States would carry over to Canada...then again, how has Canada's Wonderland survived a decade with Cedar Fair?

    • @brookepayne4805
      @brookepayne4805 Před 7 lety +14

      Target is so popular in the US, I guess they thought other countries would be just as enthusiastic? I think they should have opened at the most 30, and see how that went before building over 100. Bad business on their part.

    • @MegaKaitouKID1412
      @MegaKaitouKID1412 Před 7 lety +2

      A lot of Canadians wanted a Target, but we wanted a Target with the pricing of American stores (even compensated for the difference of the dollar). We didn't even get Targets with prices quite as good as the Zeller's they had taken over from.

    • @ConestogaCreek
      @ConestogaCreek Před 7 lety +14

      The theory is called "economies of scale" meaning the more stores you have the cheaper each one is to operate because you buy in volume. Bottom line - they took a gamble and lost

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 Před 5 lety +439

    That guy you interviewed who ran the mall was actually a good interviewee!

  • @SotonSam
    @SotonSam Před 4 lety +258

    All my Canadian friends said the reason target closed was because they bought products for the Canadian market and therefore had stuff any other store had. The reason Canadians love Target is because they go across the border and buy American products at American prices and bring them back. With Canadian Target stores, having higher prices and sell things you can just get at Walmart... Then goodbye Target.

    • @amp4240
      @amp4240 Před 3 lety +19

      I'd agree with this. There are so many brands which Target carries in the U.S. which aren't available in Canada. Or, brands which we do have but there are more varieties/flavours. I remember going to a Target in Michigan and grabbing a Chap-Stick. I was blown away by the flavour options compared to what we have here. That's just a small example of many.
      This is what most Canadians were expecting - the same/similar brand selection as in the U.S., good pricing along with a clean, modern stores. When Target opened here I went once and that was it. The selection was terrible, the lighting was poor, and there were hardly any staff. Many empty shelves, and groups of shelving standing out in the open instead of being put away in storage or set up properly. I felt like I was shopping in a Biway (another Canadian retail reference) and that the store needed another few weeks to prepare.
      If Target would have had the same, or similar product selection as they do in the U.S. I think that they would have survived. Their logistics software issues would have been resolved in time (although whoever decided that they should have been the first customer on a new logistics system when rolling out in a new country should have been fired almost immediately for that. Anyone in IT should know not to rush headfirst into v1.0 of any application which handles anything mission critical). People would have given them a chance.
      It felt like Target tried to pull a bait & switch on us. The "we're coming!" ad campaigns were relentless. There were lineups for store openings as if it was Black Friday in the U.S. Instead, once you got inside, the Target which we got was nothing like the Target that we expected.

    • @realluser-smore-2519
      @realluser-smore-2519 Před 2 lety +2

      @@amp4240 did Canada have super target obviously not target greatland because it also got killed kinda

    • @braydonvg03
      @braydonvg03 Před rokem +4

      @@realluser-smore-2519 nope, we didn’t have target long enough for them to start throwing out company spin-offs

    • @realluser-smore-2519
      @realluser-smore-2519 Před rokem +2

      @@braydonvg03 if you did have super target you would get a deli and bakery and larger selection of groceries including both pizza hut and Starbucks and a optical but just so you know target isn't supposed to be cheap they are still expensive in the US either way but it makes sense for them to leave because of the low inventory

    • @andyb8219
      @andyb8219 Před rokem +2

      Exactly! My expectations was to have US items available in Canada and when I went into Target and seen the same items that Wal-Mart had but more expensive. I left the store in 20 minutes without purchasing anything and was very upset. I never went back and didn't care that they closed. If they do come back to Canada to retry in the future then I won't give them the time of day for the emotional scare still exists

  • @bottomtext5872
    @bottomtext5872 Před 6 lety +1108

    They missed the target.

  • @MissDatherinePierce
    @MissDatherinePierce Před 6 lety +747

    Since Walmart was mentioned quite often in this video, I'd love to see a video about Walmart abandoning the German market in the mid-2000s.

    • @pilotgrrl1
      @pilotgrrl1 Před 5 lety +63

      And the problems Wal-Mart has had in Japan, too!

    • @8polyglot
      @8polyglot Před 5 lety +31

      And in Korea

    • @stephenhunter70
      @stephenhunter70 Před 5 lety +21

      Back when it was still Waltons, they left Australia. At least that's the story I was given back when I was kid, I'm now 54.

    • @diogowerneck5936
      @diogowerneck5936 Před 4 lety +12

      they dont do too well in brasil

    • @stephenhunter70
      @stephenhunter70 Před 4 lety +2

      @@diogowerneck5936 The Aussie stores are owned and operated by an Australian business. I'm not sure about Brasil's stores.

  • @Padverus
    @Padverus Před 4 lety +431

    Zellers closed because there prices were too low and weren’t making a profit, Target closed because there prices were too high and weren’t making a profit.

    • @a.salmon8193
      @a.salmon8193 Před 4 lety +29

      I loved Zellers. The Target that replaced the Zellers in Montréal had half empty shelves most of the time. It wasn't even worth the time going to see what they had.

    • @Padverus
      @Padverus Před 4 lety +14

      A. Salmon Ik when I went to the zellers closest to me that got turned into a target and they offered less then zellers did for a more expensive price tag. I think the only time after that, that I stepped foot into that target was to get into the mall it was connected too lol.

    • @StonedSpagooter
      @StonedSpagooter Před 3 lety +2

      Giant tiger being fucking drunk is still marching on

    • @arnepianocanada
      @arnepianocanada Před 3 lety +5

      Zeller's did fine with its "The lowest price is the law!" slogan and corporate culture until Walmart (then Wal-Mart) entered Canada, undercutting Z due to huge economies-of-scale buying power. I was furious that Canada allowed Wal-Mart in to compete on a field much skewed in its favour - and suck all that profit out of our country. 30 years later, I still avoid Walmart.

    • @UzumakiNaruto_
      @UzumakiNaruto_ Před 3 lety +2

      @@arnepianocanada
      I'm glad Walmart came to Canada. Don't know what I'd do without it. LOL.
      And lets be real. Zellers wasn't all that great even before Walmart arrived. Their stores were crappy and their prices weren't always the lowest even if that was their slogan. And also the quality of their merchandise was often bad as well. To me Walmart has generally decent quality stuff and they usually sell it at reasonable prices while Zellers often had crappy stuff that they tried to sell at not so reasonable prices.
      If Zellers had similar quality merchandise and they sold it at similar prices as Walmart, they might still be around today.

  • @1nsertTitleHere
    @1nsertTitleHere Před 5 lety +255

    Might be too late to mention but while the US and Australia both have Target stores, they are run by two entirely separate companies in which the only thing they have in common is the word Target and the bullseye.

    • @cubriffic172
      @cubriffic172 Před 4 lety +35

      Same thing with Kmart, it's massively successful over here in Australia whilst it's literally dying over in America

    • @NorfolksouthernMapping
      @NorfolksouthernMapping Před 4 lety +7

      Cubriffic it’s dead.

    • @pearlyyubtub
      @pearlyyubtub Před 3 lety

      There is actually this company called big w in Australia which is basically just Walmart but Australian

    • @Finalape
      @Finalape Před 3 lety +6

      @cpk1994 Target never licensed their business to Australia, a company just decided to wholesale steal the branding and things Target was doing in the US and made it happen in Australia.

    • @theduffster1985
      @theduffster1985 Před 2 lety

      Big W isn’t Walmart lol the W stands for Woolworths, the Australian supermarket chain who is the parent company

  • @KacieMarie
    @KacieMarie Před 8 lety +191

    I think targets biggest mistake was opening that many stores at once in a new country.

    • @nathancarson4394
      @nathancarson4394 Před 8 lety

      that's probably why

    • @brenden109
      @brenden109 Před 8 lety +14

      What they should of done is open one in every major city for the first 5 years, and then expanded .

    • @kb9847
      @kb9847 Před 8 lety +2

      I agree!! I live in Winnipeg and Winnipegers love going to North Dakota to shop Target there. It was always associated with a get-a-way of sorts. Then they came to Wpg and opened I think 12 or so stores. We are a small city and that is way to many. I think it would have been smart to open one really large one and people would have flocked to it the same that has happened here with IKEA. Too bad they are gone, I enjoyed a lot of their products.

    • @ivan199120
      @ivan199120 Před 8 lety +3

      Same thought, they should have opened maybe 50 or so, watched closely to see how it was working out then they should have gone from there.

    • @midnatwili3371
      @midnatwili3371 Před 8 lety +1

      +BQ 44 speaking of which they are currently constructing one right now :)

  • @leannag5790
    @leannag5790 Před 7 lety +60

    I am a Canadian business student and was in first year when this all went down. It became a course business study for us, to the point where it was a major essay question on the final. Anyway, here are the main reasons we discussed as to why Target failed so tremendously (in no particular order):
    1. Logistics and distribution.
    There are a lot of things that fall under this category. Canada is a very large country with a small population. Just shipping in Ontario is expensive, let alone across provinces. If I am remembering correctly, when Target first moved to Canada, they only had one or two shipping distribution centres. This is part of the reason there were empty shelves, especially at the beginning. Another reason is that stores were designed with shelves that were less deep, so store managers had to order more often and ran out sooner.
    2. Expectations vs Reality
    Canadians had already been shopping at Target in the states for years and thought they knew what to expect. However, when they came to Canada, the prices weren't the same, the products weren't the same, it was different! (Prices are higher in canada because of higher shipping costs and tighter regulations. They couldn't just use their US products because of differences in nutritional labeling, suppliers, etc. An example of this would be the price and quality difference between Canadian and American milk.) As a result, a lot of people who had been enthusiastic about Target were disappointed by their first impression.
    3. Time Delay
    The video mentioned that Zellers stores closed for 9 months before reopening as Target. During that 9 months, people changed their shopping habits. When Target opened and people were disappointed, they found no reason to change back. So stores had lower than expected traffic.
    4. Bad Management
    Target's management team for the Canadian expansion was made up of entirely American managers. They didn't understand the differences between the two countries, and set themselves up for failure because of it.
    5. No website
    Target didn't have a functional website when they opened. They got one months later. But during that time people who were googling products or looking for selections were looking at other retailers, such as Walmart or Amazon. Once again, they lost traffic.
    6. Differences in consumer habits
    The US is driven more by coupons than Canada is. Canadians tend to follow weekly fliers for where prices were the best. The very first week, Target's flier (read by everyone who intended to shop there) advertised 'sale' prices that were ABOVE the regular price of goods such as milk, etc. In comparison, Walmart or any other retailer advertising their actual sale prices would have taken all the customers looking for a good deal.
    7. Prices were simply higher than the market price
    This follows number six. The problems in translating products and packaging and distribution into the Canadian market led to prices being simply higher than other stores, especially in the beginning. Consumers turned out to not be that loyal to the new Target when prices were higher.
    8. Changing market cutting out department stores
    It's really no surprise that Target was struggling for months before closing. This happened to Zellers, this is happening to Sear, Giant Tiger isn't doing so hot...
    If you look at the large, flagship stores in malls, they are no longer stores aimed at the middle class like these. Stores have shifted to being either super luxury like Nordstrom (another store that entered Canada far more successfully) or to being super discount (Walmart or Dollarama). The market for this type of store is shrinking, and Canada already has Walmart to fill the gap.
    There are more reasons than this, but this is what I remember. I'm sorry that I don't have sources, but feel free to do some googling if you are curious. :)

    • @scoobycarr5558
      @scoobycarr5558 Před 5 lety

      Leanna G One difference between Canada and the USA is the flags. Canada's flag has one maple leaf while the USA's flag has 50 stars and 13 stripes.

    • @no_peace
      @no_peace Před 5 lety +8

      Just to drive home one of your points: Canada's population is very, very tiny. For a long time I didn't realize how huge the gap between countries was. There are millions more people in California than in Canada. And huge swaths of Canada have such dramatic Arctic weather that they can't even build roads. They have to fly cargo in by helicopter. Everything--diapers, produce, machinery, construction materials...
      There are no simple answers there.
      Thank you for your excellent comment!

    • @Ozzy_2014
      @Ozzy_2014 Před 5 lety +2

      Add labelling in French and English double the costs.

    • @Ozzy_2014
      @Ozzy_2014 Před 5 lety +1

      @@no_peace the issue isn't the cold the issue in the north is water, forest and many many First Nations communities. Laws complex about use of land.

    • @bernlin2000
      @bernlin2000 Před 5 lety +2

      Bottom line could have been much simpler (although I understand that it was a class essay, so you all had to pad your answers :-P): they attempted to enter a new market too quickly with too many stores. They should have started in a large, populated area of Canada first (like metro Toronto or the Vancouver area) and expanded from there, rather than trying to suddenly appear all over Canada. They put too much emphasis on the Target brand, rather than on the fundamentals behind the brand (like the supply chain, as you alluded to early on).

  • @madingwang7778
    @madingwang7778 Před 3 lety +431

    “Target will not become profitable until 2021”
    2020: *no.*

  • @gibusgaming
    @gibusgaming Před 4 lety +107

    Just a note on the last two Zellers in Canada. In 2019 the store in Nepean announced it was closing for good and started to liquidate. It'll be officially closed in 2020.

  • @EchoKnightConnor
    @EchoKnightConnor Před 6 lety +733

    Wheres the Zellers abandoned video? Like if you want it!

    • @Tristeamer
      @Tristeamer Před 5 lety +20

      I agree I miss zellers

    • @greatcanadianmoose3965
      @greatcanadianmoose3965 Před 5 lety +17

      I cried when Zellers got bought out by Target at our Mall.... curse the stupid Target!
      That is my biggest problem with the company, and I went only twice ever.

    • @keithbouchard2007
      @keithbouchard2007 Před 5 lety +7

      i agree it was sad when zellers closed down forever

    • @3000chickensoup
      @3000chickensoup Před 4 lety +6

      There's still a Zellers in my city. If I'm not wrong it's the last one

    • @fristnamelastname5549
      @fristnamelastname5549 Před 4 lety +1

      I think you missed the Target of the video.

  • @woahmorganx
    @woahmorganx Před 8 lety +303

    I clicked on this thinking it was gonna be an urban exploring video, but I still found this video quite intertesting ahaha (also i may have laughed way too hard at "eh, at least we have costco" so true 😂😂)

  • @erinmagill1702
    @erinmagill1702 Před 2 lety +29

    As a former Target Canada employee, watching that segment of the team members doing planorama and setting up the store brought back serious memories. Man, that store had potential but from the inside it was clear that it was destined to fail from the beginning. It was a fun job while it lasted and I am proud to have been part of that tiny piece of interesting Canadian retail history.

  • @poephila
    @poephila Před rokem +22

    I don’t know for the other provinces, but in Québec I remember people being confused my Target. There was close to no brand awareness prior to them opening. It looked like Zellers was clumsily rebranding itself, using the same color palette and the same stores. People kind of assumed they would sell the same lower tier quality products and didn’t even step foot in there.

    • @drewpatterson8261
      @drewpatterson8261 Před rokem +2

      A rebranding of Zellers. Interesting you should mention that. I remember walking through my local Target Canada store and thinking how this could easily have been an updated Zellers. If only HBC was willing to put some money into the brand to help Zellers shed it's "old, tired store" image.

  • @DemonDriver31
    @DemonDriver31 Před 6 lety +177

    I live in Ottawa and there was a target 10 minutes from my house. At the time I thought it was great there was a target there, but I thought after they closed the doors I thought they moved too quickly. They should have moved in slowly to Canada opening a few stores in every city a year at least that way if it works they could open more stores rapidly if it fails they could sell the leases .

    • @cybercat29
      @cybercat29 Před 6 lety +11

      I agree as that is what Walmart did.

    • @888aura
      @888aura Před 5 lety

      YoungGun9934 yo Ottawa girl here too

    • @teddy9770
      @teddy9770 Před 5 lety +1

      I agree. They could have gained experience with retail in Canada and it wouldn't have been so bad if they had lost money for a few years, because it would only have been a little bit.

  • @craigdeblock3421
    @craigdeblock3421 Před 6 lety +75

    Target tried to do too much too quickly in Canada, and many of the Zellers locations were too small for the Target format. They also had severe supply chain issues and turned Canadian shoppers off with prices that were higher than US Target due to higher labour and transportation costs.

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 Před 2 lety +1

      I live outside of Philadelphia (where I live three are three Target stores, two of them being a mile apart and occupying spaces that was once two prominent Philadelphia department store chains: John Wanamaker and Strawbridge & Clothier), and Target (before COVID) opened two "urban" (smaller footprint) stores in Center City as a demonstration that the company can operate stores on a smaller scale yet provide the same service like the standard stores outside of Center City.

  • @TheRebelAndTheGirl
    @TheRebelAndTheGirl Před 4 lety +84

    Is it weird that I can smell Zellers when I think about it?

    • @greatcanadianmoose3965
      @greatcanadianmoose3965 Před 4 lety +20

      I honestly think that part of why it failed is that they took away our Zellers, even though it was a dying brand, it was ours, it was Canadian. Replacing them with Targets felt like they were taking away a part of Canada. But that's my opinion.

    • @deendrew36
      @deendrew36 Před 3 lety +1

      Totally know what you’re talking about with the smell!

  • @mattniedbala5839
    @mattniedbala5839 Před 4 lety +233

    Canada
    Zellers: Were going bankrupt
    *Target has joined the chat*
    *Target removed Zellers*
    *Target has left the chat*

    • @freedun4961
      @freedun4961 Před 3 lety +6

      Technically, Zellers outlasted Target! They had a couple of stores left closed just recently.

    • @tomney4460
      @tomney4460 Před 3 lety

      Nice pfp

    • @kotamoda
      @kotamoda Před 3 lety +1

      lowkey the whole plan was to fuck Zellers up lmao

    • @realluser-smore-2519
      @realluser-smore-2519 Před 2 lety

      THAT IS EXACTLY LIKE TARGET GREATLAND AS WELL

    • @EvanHatesFoxy3121
      @EvanHatesFoxy3121 Před 10 měsíci

      January 2012: Zellers: Okay, I Hope Nothing Happens…
      March 2012: Zellers: NOOOOO
      July 2012: Zellers: I’m closing…
      December 2012: Zellers: Almost All My Locations Is Closed.
      March 3, 2013: Zellers: the last location is closing soon.
      March 26, 2013: Target: I’m The First To Open Up!!!!!!
      July 2013: Target: More are opening up…
      February 2014: Target: Lots Has Opened Up!!!!!!!!!
      July 2014: Target: Well, we’re not doing too well…
      January 2015: Target: we’re gonna closed forever!
      April 2015: Target: Goodbye :(

  • @aztronyr6649
    @aztronyr6649 Před 7 lety +255

    "At least we have Costco."
    Yes. Thank God.

  • @ignisdracun4104
    @ignisdracun4104 Před 6 lety +618

    In the US, Walmart is often associated with very low class service and customers. At many Walmarts, I don’t even feel safe parking my car in the parking lot, but at target, they target the same group of people and middle class, providing better services. I much prefer shopping at target at night than at a wal mart

    • @prodbytextbook7569
      @prodbytextbook7569 Před 6 lety +60

      not really the same in canada

    • @tannenottup5036
      @tannenottup5036 Před 6 lety +56

      I bet that's part of the problem they had in Canada. I can only speak for BC but here even the most "low class" or "ghetto" people are really nice and don't pose any threat. Walmart here is pretty safe and clean.
      Makes sense considering our median house price is around $900,000, closer to $1,300,000 in metro Vancouver.

    • @davidb1089
      @davidb1089 Před 6 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @LaBucci
      @LaBucci Před 5 lety +31

      Ignis Dracun very true, my Target and Walmart are very different, my Walmart is usually dirty and the customers who shop there are usually ghetto and low class, while my Target always has clean shelf’s and normal customers! I prefer shopping at Target since I feel safer there

    • @villager2236
      @villager2236 Před 5 lety +4

      Where I live they are both normal stores that sell the same stuff under different names

  • @ThePointblank
    @ThePointblank Před 3 lety +95

    I will post this separately, but I was actually involved in Target Canada's operations, and I can tell you the biggest problem was not the rapid expansion, it was the transition from Zellers to Target, and Target's back end problems.
    The transition just took too long; the amount of time from Zellers to Target meant that traffic patterns for customers changed, meaning that the same store at the same spot had less traffic as a Target than it did as a Zellers. When Walmart came to Canada, they took over Woolco, and that change to Walmart happened pretty much overnight; Walmart kept running Woolco during the transition, and when it came time, the stores were quickly reconfigured, repainted, and signage changed from Woolco to Walmart overnight.
    The big killer was the back end; Target's inventory management software was an absolute disaster. Basically because of Target Canada's IT issues, there were major issues flowing inventory to the stores, and often stores were either severely under stocked, or were insanely overstocked for a particular item.
    Furthermore, because of issues with the inventory management software, the central warehouses from which the stores got their stock from got insanely backed up; I was told that at one point, the warehouse in Calgary, which was already a massive 20,000+ square ft facility, was packed to the rafters with stuff, and they had hundreds of rented trailers packed with merchandise in the parking lot because they didn't have room in the warehouse. This meant that Target Canada was sitting on a lot of merchandise, and thus had tons of money and debt tied up in merchandise because of their inventory management issues.
    The difference between Target Canada and the US operation was the choice of IT software; Target Canada used a brand new retail management software, of which Target Canada was the first customer for, and was meant to be a end to end, one piece offering. It was totally different from what Target US used, and had a much higher learning curve, and a variety of quirks to it that made it difficult to use.

    • @BokeemWoodbeezy
      @BokeemWoodbeezy Před 3 lety +3

      Basically, Target Canada bought a terrible ERP system that mismanaged their supply chain.

    • @ThePointblank
      @ThePointblank Před 3 lety +17

      @@BokeemWoodbeezy Not only that, there were also user caused errors as well. Sometimes the dimensions were wrong, the case quantities were off, etc. Great example was what I've heard happen once; one store got like 100 dresses of the same style and size in a shipment, and they were going WTF. When HQ looked into the matter, they discovered the issue; the store was supposed to get only 10 dresses, but due to an error in how the item was entered into the system, it was entered as being 1 set = 10 dresses, and when the picking order came to the warehouse, they picked 10 sets of 10 dresses, or 100 dresses. Needless to say, this error was fixed and the extra dresses sent back to the distribution warehouse, but there were countless other errors similar to this as well.

    • @grantmalone
      @grantmalone Před 3 lety +11

      @@ThePointblank Interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.

    • @gregsalter
      @gregsalter Před 3 lety +2

      I posted my own message before reading this, but... this. This is why it's Target's fault.

    • @ajemery
      @ajemery Před 2 lety +1

      I was part of the team that set up the IT infrastructure in the three target warehouses in Calgary/Milton/Cornwall, we were a 3rd party so didn't work directly for target but these warehouses were all over 1 million sq feet!

  • @NSWRailwaysVideos
    @NSWRailwaysVideos Před 4 lety +99

    Just to add, Target Australia has no connection to Target USA. The only thing is common is the name and logo. Target America does not own Target Australia, they are independent companies.

    • @jrdiaz18
      @jrdiaz18 Před 3 lety +1

      NSW Railway Videos thank you

    • @LeonUnger
      @LeonUnger Před 3 lety +1

      Yes . Target USA web site it up and shine....
      many stores opened too.

  • @RobertGrosse
    @RobertGrosse Před 6 lety +97

    A childhood memory of Sears Canada: As a licensed stationary steam plant engineer, My father was a Sears employee and operated the heating and air conditioning plant for Sears Midtown Plaza Saskatoon from the store opening in 1969 to his retirement in 1985. As a kid, some of my fondest memories of Sears Canada were that every Sunday morning dad had to go into the store (it was closed Sundays back in the 70s and very early 80's) and inspect the boilers/heating plant. Dad would often take us kids with him. One of my fondest memories was having the run of the toy department on a Sunday morning. Indeed, we got to zip down the dark isles on exotic new toys, bikes, trikes, electric cars, Big Wheels, etc. It was magical having a toy department entirely to ourselves on a Sunday morning. :-) Goodbye Sears Canada. You were part of my family. Indeed, our family home was filled with everything Sears - for decades. Indeed, growing up, Sears and Kenmore were really the only brand names with which i was familiar- LOL. We will miss you Sears Canada.

    • @1533ramsay
      @1533ramsay Před 4 lety

      Great story. My family was s Sears family as well. Kenmore, weatherbeater paint, Sears tuff skins cloths, Allstate insurance & Craftsmens tools. All were built to last for generations... Sadly nothing is built to last....just memories...👍

    • @CarterGregg25
      @CarterGregg25 Před 4 lety

      Good story

    • @GuyWithAPC
      @GuyWithAPC Před 4 lety +1

      Robert Grosse I went to the midtown boilers once and all I got was arrested

    • @connormason7907
      @connormason7907 Před 4 lety

      My grandfather worked at the Sears tower in the 1970s as a manager in the men's apparel department. Sad to see the fate of Sears Roebuck and co. Certainly left a big legacy behind

  • @UnstableCompounds
    @UnstableCompounds Před 6 lety +30

    As an American, I can't imagine my life without Target. It's strange how a store can become such a big part of your life.

  • @NotAJosh
    @NotAJosh Před 4 lety +38

    “Despite the identical logo, name and type of outlets, Target Australia carries no corporate connection or relation to US discount retailer Target.[3]”

  • @liamk6828
    @liamk6828 Před 4 lety +13

    My mother’s former co-worker worked for Target Canada when they were around and told me that the way target handled this expansion was poorly rolled out, and was dead from the beginning. I love the look of these stores and it’s sad that it happened

    • @Dr-Random
      @Dr-Random Před 4 lety

      Liam K I live in USA so JOKES ON YOU!!

  • @rustyshaquille5124
    @rustyshaquille5124 Před 8 lety +49

    i don't know how i came upon this or why i even watched it, but i'm pretty high at this moment and this was very enjoyable

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  Před 8 lety +5

      +axel vega Ill take it

    • @LouieMeekin
      @LouieMeekin Před 8 lety +2

      Being high is illegal your gonna get arrested

    • @joehalle6911
      @joehalle6911 Před 8 lety +1

      +axel vega it happens

    • @SDKwarrior
      @SDKwarrior Před 8 lety

      +axel vega same i just stubled upon this vid and im getting interested as fuck in it

    • @dhbedard420
      @dhbedard420 Před 8 lety

      +axel vega hahahaha same here!!

  • @fortherecord1569
    @fortherecord1569 Před 7 lety +143

    Target Canada had laughable sections for automotive and tools. Also, it didn't make ANY sense to try to make it a "one stop shop" by including a grocery section including frozen and dairy, but no produce. Overall Target Canada didn't offer ANYTHING new. The same stuff already offered at existing retail stores in Canada, and for the most part equal or higher priced. There was really little intensive to shop there.

    • @codyssmith73
      @codyssmith73 Před 7 lety +22

      They were essentially a fancier, pricier Giant Tiger.

    • @landongendur
      @landongendur Před 7 lety +2

      ^ OMG, yes!

    • @LordofFullmetal
      @LordofFullmetal Před 7 lety +1

      What the fuck are they selling in American/Canadian Target stores? Why are there grocery sections? Why are there automotive sections? Our Targets don't even really have tools. We have other chain stores that handle that shit. Like Bunnings for the latter - as for the former, we have Coles, Woolworths, ALDI - who would do grocery shopping at a fucking TARGET?
      Our Targets are mostly shit like clothes and toys and towels.

    • @icarlyfan666
      @icarlyfan666 Před 7 lety +9

      LordofFullmetal targets here (California) sell anything you'd ever need

    • @marieb.1372
      @marieb.1372 Před 7 lety +10

      I live in Southern California and it is true, Targets here have anything you could ever want. Not all Targets have a grocery store, only the Super Targets do. They are about double the size of a normal Target. I think most Targets these days are Super Targets. The shelves are always well stocked and they change inventory often. There is even a Starbucks inside the one closest to my house. I go there a couple times a week at least. I never go in stinky ole Walmart.

  • @TheGamingCanadian
    @TheGamingCanadian Před rokem +4

    Some information you left out: Target had MASSIVE supply chain issues which left stores looking like they came from 1950’s Soviet Union

  • @thefirebirdflock3440
    @thefirebirdflock3440 Před 5 lety +41

    Costco > Walmart

  • @chipskylark5086
    @chipskylark5086 Před 7 lety +119

    target wasnt even offering good prices in canada. the deals sucked. walmart smashed them.

    • @thisseagamer8165
      @thisseagamer8165 Před 5 lety +2

      Same in the U.S

    • @bernlin2000
      @bernlin2000 Před 5 lety +20

      I've always considered Target more "middle class" than Walmart in the US, but apparently that didn't translate well to Canada, where they probably treat people more equally :-P

    • @kensiem8252
      @kensiem8252 Před 5 lety

      we have the same prices in the us... y’all

  • @ChiselMouse
    @ChiselMouse Před 7 lety +369

    In the United States, Target fills the niche for shoppers who avoid Walmart because of their clientele, cleanliness, and business practices. I'm guessing that there's probably less income disparity and a stronger middle class in Canada so Walmart's stores aren't as much of a shitshow that will drive people away. Though I'm actually surprised to see Canadians so readily embrace Walmart considering its corporate values.

    • @psychicbyinternet
      @psychicbyinternet Před 7 lety +48

      Yeah that was my main reason for shopping at Target as a Canadian. I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart anymore and I haven't for several years. Our Zellers turned into a Target and then a Lowes.

    • @Kyle899
      @Kyle899 Před 7 lety +3

      Are you in Regina? Because it also went Zellers-Target-Lowes.

    • @psychicbyinternet
      @psychicbyinternet Před 7 lety +5

      Ontario.

    • @saveUyghurs
      @saveUyghurs Před 7 lety +26

      Walmarts here are clean

    • @elizabeth1703
      @elizabeth1703 Před 7 lety +13

      I think you nailed it.
      As for its cooperate values... I think shoppers rationalize that the same way we rationalize most cooperations methods and values. Especially, the agriculture industry (how they treat animals and quality of food), or the pharmaceutical industry pushing opioids for mild issues on the general public, claiming they weren't addictive. etc. etc. etc.
      Most people in Canada are complacent and happy with the way things are.

  • @davidbroughall3782
    @davidbroughall3782 Před 3 lety +34

    This was Target Canada's marketing strategy: "We may not have all the products our competitor carries, but what we do have we will charge you more for it. A lot more." I can't imagine why they failed.

  • @KiwiPoku
    @KiwiPoku Před 3 lety +9

    12:01 It seems Jake's audio quality became abandoned
    *sitcom laugh track*

    • @CaptainSouthbird
      @CaptainSouthbird Před 2 lety +2

      I actually just watched this and had to back up and make sure I actually heard the quality drop for real and it wasn't just like something wrong with my ears haha

    • @KiwiPoku
      @KiwiPoku Před 2 lety

      @@CaptainSouthbird did the same thing lmao.
      (also I just realized you've done editing for vinesauce, that's awesome and you're cool 👍)

    • @KiwiPoku
      @KiwiPoku Před 2 lety

      @@CaptainSouthbird also you seem cool, i'mma subscribe rq

  • @MRayner59
    @MRayner59 Před 8 lety +56

    Canada is only a "bad market for retailers" owing to the fact we have a relatively small population stretched over an enormous physical space. This is the key factor making the cost of logistics and distribution high compared to a lot of other countries. Unfortunately for Target, almost every aspect of their implementation and roll-out was done badly, so much in so that it's now regarded as a textbook business case of "what not to do" when expanding into a foreign market.

    • @_Sean_
      @_Sean_ Před 8 lety +1

      #Amazon

    • @protomorph1219
      @protomorph1219 Před 8 lety

      Very True, I remember when they took down our local zellers and brought target. I remember when you first Go through the Doors it smelt like a dead Body, A lot of people complained about that.

    • @Treetops27
      @Treetops27 Před 8 lety +1

      Canada's population is not "stretched" anywhere. 60% of the country lives along the St. Lawrence seaway in the southeast, where urbanization is continuous.

    • @Felamine
      @Felamine Před 8 lety

      How much of it wasn't bilingual? I work for a closeout retailer in the US and we've been getting a lot of Target Canada merchandise lately (Target US cannot sell it in their stores because of different UPC codes). I've noticed almost all of the products are bilingual with English and French printed on the packaging.

    • @ErraticConduct
      @ErraticConduct Před 8 lety +2

      Agreed! I saw so many big problems with their expansion into Canada, right from the get-go. When they first announced their take-over of Zellars spaces and opening ~200 stores, I turned to my mother and said, "They're not going to last". There are three big reasons I think their venture failed:
      1.They came in too large, too quickly.
      -they should have opened a few stores in large urban centres (ie: Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal & Calgary), and then tested what was going to work and what wasn't. They hugely missed the boat in thinking everything was going to work out so quickly and in such as big scale. And really they thought knew how to please Canadian shoppers, and really they had no clue. They should have started small and slowly expanded, it was what WalMart did when they first came into Canada, and they have done really well.
      2. Bad price competition & merchandise selection.
      -coming into a country where there is not a lot of competition for retail, they had comparatively no prices that could compete with other retailers. Their clothes were cheaper quality but more expensive in price than WalMart AND Old Navy, so why would I go there if I wanted cheap? Their groceries were average to expensively priced and not diverse, I'd rather go to my local Sobey's and shop the sales so I can also get things like fresh fruit and actual things I can cook, rather than warm up in a microwave! I only ever saw snacks and frozen food there! Also, their diversification and selection in clothing & sizes were terrible. In the end, the only things I bought there were school supplies, and I was not impressed with their selection of even that.
      3. They were poorly stocked.
      -walking into a half-empty store (even before they said they were pulling out, it was like that!) doesn't make me feel confident that I'm going to find the things I'm looking for. In fact not once did I walk in and find the things I was looking for. I went at three different times to shop at Target, every time looking for something different and they just never had any of it. The few things I bought there were incidental purchases. "Well, I'll need some new notebooks soon anyways, and the prices are about the same as WalMart, I'll just grab them anyways."
      I'm sure there were other reasons they may have failed, but these were the ones I saw from a shopper's perspective. In general I was not impressed with my Target experiences and was not sad to see them go.

  • @huntsless
    @huntsless Před 8 lety +179

    i hate myself every time i have to shop at walmart.

    • @Broyale26
      @Broyale26 Před 8 lety +5

      +Hunter Ross Why?

    • @jordanlukach
      @jordanlukach Před 8 lety +23

      +Broyale26 Because it is a terrible corporation.

    • @TheBigCray
      @TheBigCray Před 8 lety +4

      +Broyale26 He's just saying that because it's the trendy thing to say. Wal-Mart hate is super popular among mindless drones these days. Dollars to donuts, he has an iPhone too.

    • @huntsless
      @huntsless Před 8 lety +7

      TheBigCray I am not a trendy person, I just shared my opinion

    • @Broyale26
      @Broyale26 Před 8 lety +5

      Hunter Ross I asked because I see this same thing repeated throughout social media. People say, "OMG, have to go to Wal-Mart FML" and i'm like, "you also drive a crappy American car or a Kia, watch Dancing with the Stars, eat Fast-food, make Uber jokes, own an iPhone, etc., but, yeah, Wal-Mart gives you a faux existential crisis. Mmkay". The same people who mock Wal-Mart shoppers, but look indistinguishable from them.

  • @Ballsy_
    @Ballsy_ Před 4 lety +3

    I remember when I worked for target in 2013 Tony fisher visited my store I worked at, he seemed like a target built robot, no real human emotion or empathy. Really just cared about himself

  • @WesternSouthDakotaRailfan2006

    Target will not become profitable until 2021
    2020: bruh

  • @electro-pirate994
    @electro-pirate994 Před 8 lety +48

    i had a zellers near my house.....it's a dollar tree now ;-;

    • @terraaubertin3194
      @terraaubertin3194 Před 8 lety +3

      Zellers was the best

    • @aemidaniels
      @aemidaniels Před 8 lety +2

      +DARR3N ours was turned into like 3 smaller shops that get cycled out every few years :(
      I miss that cafe they had! Breakfast there was so good and all the waitresses knew us after so many years of going. -sigh-

    • @spiritFox3
      @spiritFox3 Před 8 lety

      I loved Zellers too

    • @electro-pirate994
      @electro-pirate994 Před 8 lety

      lol the nostalgia

    • @imchuck6064
      @imchuck6064 Před 8 lety +1

      +DARR3N same now im sad mine is turning into a "save on foods" like wtf kind of name is that for a store its more of a sentence wish one day zellers will come back.

  • @ProlePatrolMusic
    @ProlePatrolMusic Před 7 lety +140

    Being from canada, we were amazed by target. It looked beautiful. But every time when i would go there nobody really bought anything. No one ever had a full or even half full cart. Our currency is so shit that target was expensive and not even worth shopping there. Its a shame though makes me want to move to the US

    • @ellienyah
      @ellienyah Před 7 lety +17

      Agreed, I miss target stores and their nice clean aesthetic. Even the nicer walmarts just have this trashy cheap feel to them.

    • @mylolliepop12
      @mylolliepop12 Před 7 lety +9

      Yeah, because Canada is better than the US, end.

    • @trvpgame7710
      @trvpgame7710 Před 7 lety

      Venomous. Lol

    • @cherrycola3604
      @cherrycola3604 Před 6 lety +3

      Target in the states are really good, I love going shopping there haha

    • @foodbeergood
      @foodbeergood Před 6 lety

      Scott Carmichael. I'm sure Canada sucks too, which is awful because I know this SUPPOSED to be a great nation that actually stands up for everyone's guaranteed (by constitution or by nature) personal freedoms.

  • @xXjules13Xx
    @xXjules13Xx Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome video! I work at a Target in the U.S. and durning orientation they briefly mentioned the failed expansion into Canada and it kinda left me with more questions than I had before they brought it up. This is such a comprehensive look into its downfall, well done. And now I know!

  • @seant8292
    @seant8292 Před 4 lety +17

    Lmfao that target gas station is literally from my town so I just got shook 😂

  • @TheRelaxedGamer
    @TheRelaxedGamer Před 8 lety +35

    Dude, as a regular viewer (august 2015) you have DEF. improved in every single areas of your series here. I almost can't believe how far this has come since it's inception. You truly captured the spirit of target in this episode, and I CANNOT say this enough, GREAT JOB!

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  Před 8 lety +2

      +The Relaxed Gamer While sure people do things a lot better then me, I personally love doing this and over time I hope we cans improve even more now. Thanks for sticking with us, you're great.

    • @TheRelaxedGamer
      @TheRelaxedGamer Před 8 lety +2

      You can def. tell you have a passion for this. I can hear the excitement in your voice. Some might say this is unprofessional, I say it adds to the overall personality of this channel. Some of the lines it sounds as if you're about to burst at the seams with excitement. Super stoaked for the next one! Keep 'em commin!

    • @pbabuik
      @pbabuik Před 8 lety

      +Bright Sun Films one other thing to take in is the fact that when walmart first opened in canada they had two or three locations then opening 1 or 2 every year

  • @Moop666
    @Moop666 Před 8 lety +79

    I was expecting exploring an abandoned target, but it was interesting either way.

  • @laneyhesse8102
    @laneyhesse8102 Před 2 lety

    Just between episodes 1 and 15 you have improved so so so much! I just found your channel and I’m going back and watching all your old videos

  • @sierralvx
    @sierralvx Před 3 lety +1

    Watching this after the Abandoned Zellers video really shows mow much you've changed your tone, lol! I love how two videos you've made 4 years apart connect so well!

  • @avgfree21
    @avgfree21 Před 7 lety +37

    Target australia has no connection to Target America, We simply borrowed the name. Target opened in australia as Empororam in 1926, before being renamed Lindsay's target in 1973 and adopting Target in 1985, with Target Country being the rural and regional arm. The Group has been owned by wesfarmers since 2007.

    • @kbbbb7
      @kbbbb7 Před 6 lety

      Target Australia was owned by Coles Myer between 1985 and 2006, who was at that time part of the largest ever business in Australia.

  • @jacobcarroll3442
    @jacobcarroll3442 Před 8 lety +133

    What the heck did i just watch? I liked it but like such unique content. You know what, subscribed.

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  Před 8 lety +14

      +jacob carroll I thought this comment was going a completely different direction then it did haha thanks Jacob!

    • @null2846
      @null2846 Před 8 lety +4

      +Bright Sun Films Yeah man, this was actually excellent. I expected just your typical amateur CZcamsr doing a powerpoint presentation but this had an interview, camerawork, and great usage of videos and photos.

    • @alfrankensteinfeldman
      @alfrankensteinfeldman Před 8 lety

      +jacob carroll Same here, man.

    • @redcatjack
      @redcatjack Před 8 lety

      +I habe a peepee Fat

    • @getbent7304
      @getbent7304 Před 8 lety

      +redcatjack idiot

  • @aluvrianne
    @aluvrianne Před 4 lety

    You get some neat interviews. I love that you seek out these people because these are industry voices that the masses rarely hear from. The one you did with the Premier Cruise Lines boss was absolutely fantastic.

  • @StevenBecker
    @StevenBecker Před 5 lety

    I have been binge-watching the series and this is where it gets good!

  • @greenlegocats123
    @greenlegocats123 Před 7 lety +424

    dude zellers was always such a dump everything was always scattered all over the floors and people were always shop lifting and eating the food in the stores before they even paid lol

    • @bastobasto4866
      @bastobasto4866 Před 7 lety

      greenlegocats123 maybe

    • @samohtt
      @samohtt Před 7 lety +27

      no they did not... zellers was the best store of mai early childhood

    • @DDBurnett1
      @DDBurnett1 Před 7 lety +40

      Sounds just like Kmart, today.

    • @myristicina.
      @myristicina. Před 6 lety +10

      Cow cow?? Why are you here

    • @kashhh4u
      @kashhh4u Před 6 lety +6

      How did i find you here lol

  • @ricecakeFTW
    @ricecakeFTW Před 8 lety +61

    The problem is they expanded too fast......

    • @mirasu2777
      @mirasu2777 Před 8 lety +8

      Like Nazi Germany....

    • @pleasestoptrackingmeasio7657
      @pleasestoptrackingmeasio7657 Před 8 lety +7

      +Mirasu k?

    • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
      @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 8 lety

      HUH? what does that have to do with target? Europe's domination and retail are not even close to the same thing #WutDaFuq

    • @saltyman7888
      @saltyman7888 Před 7 lety +2

      godwins law first variation

    • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
      @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 7 lety +1

      Damn dude good call LOL there is a name for it XD i will never forget this!!!

  • @seltzerwater9174
    @seltzerwater9174 Před 5 lety

    was going through the playlist of these and apparently i completely missed that you gave a shout out to my instagram 3 years ago. that’s pretty dang cool. thank you

  • @Pomegrape
    @Pomegrape Před 5 lety +27

    The Target in the mall near me wasn't well stocked, and was pretty much the exact same thing as a Walmart, and wasn't any cheaper price wise. They opened way too fast in Canada

    • @Deenique16
      @Deenique16 Před 5 lety

      Yep

    • @kristenfraser7660
      @kristenfraser7660 Před 3 lety +1

      I felt the same the first few weeks looked like they were just not receiving enough stock and it never got any better for the next 2 years !

    • @martastanislawowska9484
      @martastanislawowska9484 Před 3 lety

      Yep. Ours failed cause it was empty.

  • @Yumegipsu
    @Yumegipsu Před 8 lety +86

    I remember when there was a Zellers in my town.
    Of course, it ain't there no more :P

  • @muchzshroom
    @muchzshroom Před 8 lety +61

    I used the bathroom in Target once or twice. It was pretty nice. Never bought anything though

    • @muchzshroom
      @muchzshroom Před 8 lety +12

      Egbert Wadman I'm not fat, you're fat! Go back to your target and buy your fatty fats you fat fat fatty

    • @muchzshroom
      @muchzshroom Před 8 lety +7

      Egbert Wadman Shut your big fat flappy cheeks, your one to talk! I saw you in the back smelling all the kiddie underwear you fat creepy creep!

    • @HadithOfThaqlain
      @HadithOfThaqlain Před 8 lety +9

      +muchzshroom I feel like being in elementary school again...

    • @dilapidatedboat8291
      @dilapidatedboat8291 Před 8 lety

      +Jibran Khan It was hilarious though

    • @loup9003
      @loup9003 Před 8 lety

      +muchzshroom Only thing i bought at Target was my smartphone (a nexus 5, which was sold by rogers). I already had a phone with rogers and wanted to buy a nexus 5 with them as well. Since i didn't want a long term contract, i wanted to pay for the phone in full right away and transfer my pay-as-you-go funds i already had with Rogers from my old phone. Ended up staying there for two hours as the seller was trying to figure out how to do that -_- ...
      Never went to Target again after that heh. Among other things, prices were too high (compared to Wall-Mart) and they didnt have much stuff anyway.

  • @locustlord5556
    @locustlord5556 Před 5 lety

    I love how much information there is in these videos.

  • @michelrushdy1262
    @michelrushdy1262 Před 3 lety

    Excellent interview with the mall manager.
    Target is one example I used in classrooms as a business teacher: poor market study, they took for granted that what has been working in USA will woork all the same in another market, read Canadaa in this case.
    Then poor management did the rest, empty shelves, not finding products you are expected to find in that kind of store, inhability to assess the situation and quickly adjust, to implement and promote a new and appropriated Canadian commitment.
    They have been taking each and every steps that, as we teach to students, will lead to failure.

  • @CB2C
    @CB2C Před 7 lety +99

    Why doesn't target go to New Zealand and replace the TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE FURNITURE STORE THAT LOOKS LIKE TARGET!!

    • @CB2C
      @CB2C Před 7 lety +12

      The only retailer in NZ is The Warehouse. It doesn't sell food and I would be much happier if target came. The warehouse would be dead if target came.

    • @TheMrCC21
      @TheMrCC21 Před 7 lety

      I did a quick search on The Warehouse and they do sell food.

    • @CB2C
      @CB2C Před 7 lety

      ^ Candy bars and stuff. Also I was wrong. There are 3 Retailers in New Zealand. K-mart and farmers along with The Warehouse.

    • @NDY2yt
      @NDY2yt Před 7 lety +1

      Caio brown's 2nd Channel Australian & New Zealand's department stores don't sell groceries. You have to go to a supermarket (which is kinda annoying). Target Australia doesn't sell groceries either.

    • @Morgan02
      @Morgan02 Před 7 lety +1

      Jim Battersbee Canada is pretty nice don't bash us

  • @CTH9821
    @CTH9821 Před 7 lety +728

    Thought this was going to be an Urban exploration video... cant say im disappointed though, this was very interesting. And im from the UK so didnt really need any of this information.

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  Před 7 lety +44

      +Martin czcams.com/video/iD8ubUSkTsw/video.html

    • @Squwils
      @Squwils Před 7 lety +6

      Bright Sun Films b

    • @ADucksOpinion
      @ADucksOpinion Před 7 lety +28

      funny.. I found this video cause i found a n Urban exploration video and i didnt want that, i wanted to know the facts of why

    • @donalr9742
      @donalr9742 Před 6 lety

      Lol me too

    • @user-dw5ns8ul3k
      @user-dw5ns8ul3k Před 6 lety +2

      I think Bright Sun Films should do a Fresh Easy episode. It died at USA so fast.

  • @supermarioalexander2846
    @supermarioalexander2846 Před 3 lety +8

    "In a realistic senereo target would not become profitable until 2021"
    2021:good luck with that

  • @itsjustkennyg
    @itsjustkennyg Před 5 lety +1

    its surreal to think back to the times when i would go to the mall with my mom and shop at zellers and sears.. so sad to see a piece of my childhood go

  • @zachwatson319
    @zachwatson319 Před 6 lety +366

    In 2008, during a three day trip to Canada, I managed to go to a Zeller's. I was 15.

    • @justinbuckley1939
      @justinbuckley1939 Před 6 lety +32

      Zachary Watson i fucking loved zellers

    • @thegregolahorologyclub6799
      @thegregolahorologyclub6799 Před 6 lety +27

      I was so young, I don't even remember what Zellers was like. ALL I KNOW IS TARGET STOLE ZELLERS. NOT ONLY THAT, NOW SEARS IS LEAVING CANADA!

    • @thegregolahorologyclub6799
      @thegregolahorologyclub6799 Před 6 lety +8

      My mall still has the big white and red tile area behind where the zellers logo used to be. It looks depressing.

    • @cubecum
      @cubecum Před 6 lety +1

      Zachary Watson well now you are 23 ._. ok happy birthday

    • @swisscheesegamer7483
      @swisscheesegamer7483 Před 6 lety +3

      Rip zellers

  • @715koolgirl
    @715koolgirl Před 8 lety +148

    I clicked on this thinking it was going to be a video exploring an empty target lol

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 Před 8 lety +4

      He kinda does though.

    • @brettmacdonald7983
      @brettmacdonald7983 Před 8 lety +3

      Same lol

    • @Vicky-ug5gg
      @Vicky-ug5gg Před 8 lety +2

      me too, well disappointed

    • @bellashimmershineand8953
      @bellashimmershineand8953 Před 8 lety +2

      Same

    • @kennoquick
      @kennoquick Před 8 lety

      He does that when...
      This video gets popular
      Alot of people asking him
      Many likes
      He does it in a different video, he doesn't want to do it to waste money going there, but IDK why he didn't went there when he was maybe near there and like the Abandoned nick studio he was on a trip and he was around near there so decided to go there

  • @CurtiousTech
    @CurtiousTech Před 3 lety +4

    As an employee under the first year of target Canada i can tell you i knew this company wouldnt last just from a corporate standpoint!
    They didnt know we had Thanksgiving at a different time which was why none of the stores were decorated and in the winter they were more concerned giving us winter hats and gloves then what people wanted which was shovels (we had 0 winter equipment)

    • @arnepianocanada
      @arnepianocanada Před 3 lety +3

      Total lack of care about Canadian cultural and general-living needs. You'll think for all their joking about us in igloos and mollusks they'd have thought about snow - and it takes about 10 seconds to enter "Canadian calendar holidays" in a search engine. I wonder what they had set up for non-USA Boxing Day? :(

    • @arnepianocanada
      @arnepianocanada Před 3 lety

      Oh dang Autocorrupt! ...Igloos and MUKLUKS

    • @CurtiousTech
      @CurtiousTech Před 3 lety

      @@arnepianocanada our store drove customers right next door to canadian tire because they had more winter equipment then we did

  • @BadgerBarf
    @BadgerBarf Před 3 lety +1

    So awesome to see your clip of Mark Critch making fun of the closing of Target. I love seeing Newfoundlanders in the wild haha

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd Před 8 lety +24

    Ending credits and music was a win.

    • @BrightSunFilms
      @BrightSunFilms  Před 8 lety +4

      +Rediscover Film I know right, the song works so well with it

    • @xavierproman
      @xavierproman Před 8 lety

      +Bright Sun Films yep and what's the ending song called. I like it

    • @EDHBlvd
      @EDHBlvd Před 8 lety +1

      +EmeraldCactus it is in Description of video. 👍

    • @rustie115
      @rustie115 Před 8 lety

      +EmeraldCactus // XavierTheNormalGuy Why iii Love The Moon.

  • @kakyoukuzuki
    @kakyoukuzuki Před 8 lety +79

    For exploration, click to 13:21
    thank me later.

  • @user-it8tb6el1k
    @user-it8tb6el1k Před 4 lety +3

    as a canadian who lives in a province besides ontario or BC, right near the border...I think the biggest problem with target was that it just wasn't practical. it's really popular here to take weekend-long road-trips to the states and go on target-hauls because the taxes here are pretty high and you could get products unavailable here for much less. when target came here, people thought it would be similar. really low prices, items we couldn't usually acquire over here...but no, it was basically just another walmart and we already have walmart. it was redundant when people were already willing to travel to the states to shop at target for way less and walmart's prices were already better than target canada's. most targets have been converted to canadian tires now or they're still being leased out.

  • @flashy2575
    @flashy2575 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I miss so much this good old days it was so incredible 😢 these days take me back

  • @ohsnapitzmj6446
    @ohsnapitzmj6446 Před 8 lety +80

    Damn, I remember going Zellers a lot when I was younger...

    • @llaming4055
      @llaming4055 Před 8 lety +2

      +ohsnapitzmj OMG same here, it always had a weird smell!

    • @sonyadawn8338
      @sonyadawn8338 Před 8 lety +4

      +ohsnapitzmj some great childhood memories going to Zellers with my grandma as a kid :-(

    • @adamhoshel9562
      @adamhoshel9562 Před 8 lety

      Yep.

    • @Jereozone
      @Jereozone Před 8 lety

      crap I remember that

    • @christofrank5699
      @christofrank5699 Před 8 lety +2

      Me too I miss that store there was a little restaurant in side them too. I'm definitely going to go and visit ottawa to see the zellers there.

  • @FoggamingMc
    @FoggamingMc Před 7 lety +68

    my grade 12 welding class is now located in this target they also have remote control car races in the front

  • @kennyhn
    @kennyhn Před 3 lety

    I watch a lot of channels like yours, but you actually get interviews from the people who work there.I watch a lot of channels like yours, but you actually get interviews from the people who work there. I'm going to pay to watch your movie tomorrow, I can't wait. And even if it's free, I don't know, I'll pay and still enjoy it. You are LITERARY a genius my guy

  • @JarethTheGoblinKingForever

    When I moved into Nova Scotia the thing keeping the Bedford Mall alive seemed to be the Target; after the Target shut down the mall was very empty until Stephen King's "The Mist" was filmed there and later a Giant Tiger opened. I always think that sooner or later the Bedford Mall will just kick the bucket but it always hangs on by a thread and survives.

  • @martincaspary-smith1133
    @martincaspary-smith1133 Před 8 lety +21

    I agree Target is a much nicer store then Walwart.

    • @flyboy8307
      @flyboy8307 Před 8 lety

      +martin caspary-smith they had good sales tho and good items

  • @ezservice6764
    @ezservice6764 Před 7 lety +261

    The reason Canada is bad for retailers, IMO is simply Walmart owns the country, it disgusts me.
    I live in a town in NS where Walmart is literally killing off everything, our mall is a rotting corpse, small businesses have trouble getting traffic. and everyone is forced to either go to Walmart, or drive out of town for basic things. They killed Zellers, they killed Kmart, and now they're dipping into food, and they're trying to kill Sobeys and Superstore (AKA Loblaws).
    Walmart is the worst.

    • @blacktornado1999
      @blacktornado1999 Před 7 lety +27

      Walmart is really the worst. I never understood the fascination with it. Its not like they are always the cheapest around. At least where I live, there are quite a few stores that are either better stocked or have somewhat equal prices to Walmart's. Freshco, No Frills, Food Basics etc all seem to have products prices similar to Walmart.

    • @markdewald5323
      @markdewald5323 Před 7 lety +17

      This is such flawed logic that so many people have "Walmart kills small businesses and competition". Go to any Walmart and what do you see around it? Answer, a thriving area of retail, restaurants, and commerce. I am not going to defend all of Walmarts business practices, but to suggest that they somehow destroy other businesses is just wrong. A Walmart (or any other big box store) is a catalyst to any local business in the area as Walmart is a destination store. This is the same logic that draws business to malls or other major attractions. As for the "Mom & Pop" stores, it is not Walmart that killed those, rather it was technology and the desire for something new in this "what have you done for me lately" society that we live in. There is still a market for Mom & Pop, but it must be tailored to the right area and to a more eclectic clientele.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee Před 7 lety +4

      Matt Ryan Walmart didn't kill Kmart. Kmart killed Kmart. and about the only use I have for Walmart is the one near me sells ammunition. other than that it's useless.

    • @blobjoehugo1895
      @blobjoehugo1895 Před 7 lety +4

      Matt Ryan lol in Vancouver no one goes to Wal-Mart, people go to Costco, Safeway etc.

    • @SteelCurtainGaming
      @SteelCurtainGaming Před 7 lety +6

      In my area in Canada ... most of the other retailers like walmart food/w.e - Giant Tiger, Sobeys, Superstore etc seem to be doing just fine... I came up here in late 2009 - I remember Zellers and remember them turning it into a Target Canada, along with the one at our large mall.. and then BAM it was gone. The one closest to me then turned into a small Walmart, which is stupid because there were already 2 in my city... But yea the only thing that completely shocked me was Future Shop closing, felt like it came out of nowhere.

  • @dylanium5755
    @dylanium5755 Před 5 lety +1

    I love that time lapse footage of the planorama

  • @Emergancyintercom
    @Emergancyintercom Před 4 lety +3

    Near me there is a Walmart, it started off being k-mart then zellers then target and now Walmart for those who are wondering the naborhood was built in the mid 60’s-70’s

  • @TheAmazingJimmy
    @TheAmazingJimmy Před 8 lety +30

    I thought I was going to watch exploration of an abandoned Target, not get a documentary on it, so I ain't even gonna finish this crap.

    • @Jaded42O
      @Jaded42O Před 8 lety +4

      Bye ✌

    • @claykeyworth272
      @claykeyworth272 Před 8 lety +7

      The epitome of an instant-gratification generation.

    • @SaSpursFan
      @SaSpursFan Před 8 lety +4

      I prefer this bc it's about why it is abandoned not some video about a "spooky empty building" video. There are plenty of CZcams videos that do that if that's what gets you going

    • @palmtrees3117
      @palmtrees3117 Před 8 lety

      +Clay Keyworth I don't think anyone watching abandoned building videos wants instant gratification. You are high.

    • @FecalMatador
      @FecalMatador Před 8 lety +1

      You clearly let his point go right over your head.

  • @cartergamegeek
    @cartergamegeek Před 7 lety +66

    It's to bad the Targets closed. I live in America so it shocks me to see them closed. The Target that i sometimes shop at is still open. It's just a long as drive so me and the family don't go often.

    • @BrosOfDecay
      @BrosOfDecay Před 7 lety

      Wow why did they close and do you now the location of this one i wan't to explore it :)

    • @cartergamegeek
      @cartergamegeek Před 7 lety

      Bros Of Decay The closed ones are allover Canada. They lost money in Canada and closed up shop. But in America they still sell stuff. They are not closed in America. Only the Canada stores closed. But i don't know where those closed stores are. I know where the closest Target is to this house. Because like i said America still has Targets. It's just the one my family shops at is a good bit of a drive away. So we can't go often.

    • @ab41099
      @ab41099 Před 7 lety +5

      cartergamegeek target Canada was basically a different company, that's why they added the Canada at the end. Almost every American company that comes to Canada opens up as a new company by adding the Canada at the end. After they didn't do well here, target Canada closed up shop and left, but in no way affected what happening in the states

    • @cartergamegeek
      @cartergamegeek Před 7 lety

      Adesh Bhullar My point was Target does well in America. So it just shocks me that the market in Canada was not right for Target. It's a good store. So to see it fail is shocking. But Canada has a different market. So things often go bad. But to someone like me that lives in America it's a shock it failed. I would have never guessed that Target would fail in Canada. They do well here so the logic of going to Canada was solid. But then they did poorly and closed. Because i did not follow news from Canada i did not know Targets in Canada closed. So this video was interesting to me. This just goes to show how different places and people can often get different reactions to your company and goods. Often times in a bad way you were not expecting.

    • @jackcandy1
      @jackcandy1 Před 7 lety +5

      No one I know is really sad to see target leave Canada because they opened too fast and all the stuff they had was garbage. When the stores first opened no one was impressed and just wanted Zellers back

  • @PlooshYT
    @PlooshYT Před 4 lety +1

    Never thought I’d see the Upper Canada Mall in a video, that’s for sure

  • @eliseluttrell9073
    @eliseluttrell9073 Před 5 lety

    Lmaooo, the picture you used of the shopping mall at the beginning of the video is literally THE MALL I WORK AT. Thats actually hilarious, i was watching this video trying to forget about going to work tomorrow😂😂😂 0:24

    • @eliseluttrell9073
      @eliseluttrell9073 Před 5 lety

      ALSO. They took the space that used to be the Zellers/ recently empty Target and turned it into a food market with vendors, and now I work at a bakery in the market😅😅

  • @Mace2.0
    @Mace2.0 Před 8 lety +115

    I used to go to Zellers as a kid. Such memories.

    • @givenchyhoe
      @givenchyhoe Před 8 lety +1

      Yep

    • @Leukus
      @Leukus Před 8 lety +1

      I remember when my local one closed. Still abandoned to this day

    • @00Max00
      @00Max00 Před 8 lety

      +The Omnilution 2.0 It's the first and only store I shoplifted when I was 12yo. Stole some yo-yos and a pokemon bag xD

    • @colinbardswell4377
      @colinbardswell4377 Před 8 lety +2

      Yo zellers in Sudbury was the shit

    • @garageman_
      @garageman_ Před 8 lety

      +Leukus Same here, its sad.

  • @balloons1908
    @balloons1908 Před 8 lety +119

    I want Zellers back.... I miss that diner inside o_O

    • @jess.playzz94
      @jess.playzz94 Před 8 lety +10

      The diner was the best part of Zellers

    • @balloons1908
      @balloons1908 Před 8 lety

      Jessica MacDonald Ikr.

    • @conormccann7618
      @conormccann7618 Před 8 lety +3

      I'd always order that huge grilled cheese. Oh, the memories

    • @balloons1908
      @balloons1908 Před 8 lety

      Conor McCann I CAN'T. I JUST CAN'T.

    • @voltra.118
      @voltra.118 Před 8 lety +7

      Oh yeah I loved zellers it was a good store

  • @wiseguy3675
    @wiseguy3675 Před 2 lety

    Like many others, my wife and I were excited for the arrival of Target and didn't mind the drive across town to check it out. To say we were underwhelmed was an understatement. Not only were many of the shelves empty, but the merchandise wasn't any different than what you'd find at Walmart or a random store at the mall. I think we went back once more after that initial outing, found it even worse, and never returned.

  • @Kenzotopia
    @Kenzotopia Před rokem

    Your videos are so addicting!!!

  • @remuslupin1764
    @remuslupin1764 Před 7 lety +10

    I live in Canada, and have been to the Canadian Targets when they were around. Only times they really got customers were when it opened, and when it closed.

    • @scoobycarr5558
      @scoobycarr5558 Před 5 lety

      Remus Lupin Good day sir from Canada! Greetings to you from Scooby in the USA! ❤

  • @lyndsie92
    @lyndsie92 Před 7 lety +23

    two stores opened in my city, Saskatoon sk, which is a really fucking random city btw. everyone was really excited about it but it didn't last long because target sucked here. simple as that. They closed pretty much as soon as they opened. those two target locations still remain empty.

  • @GenericHandle185
    @GenericHandle185 Před 5 lety +2

    If you deal with the cold,
    you get the maple syrup.
    If you can power through the hardships of the Canadian superstore market, youll make it big.

  • @curtisparish3677
    @curtisparish3677 Před 5 lety +1

    I love the fact that he showed the Elgin Mall in St. Thomas where Zellers used to be.

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien9816 Před 8 lety +35

    Sure Canada is a tough market to break into, with its small population and all. But I put the blame on the Canadian Target CEO. Opening 100 stores in a year is overly ambitious and a sure sign of his ego mania. He takes the company down the drain, thousands loose their jobs, but the Ceo gets a golden handshake! This isn't Targets first store opening. How could they get it so wrong?!? I see these empty stores everyday. Even Canadian stores don't want to move in.

    • @sooofunny37
      @sooofunny37 Před 7 lety

      They should have hired u as CFO

    • @zochbuppet448
      @zochbuppet448 Před 7 lety

      It seems like it was a fashion trend at the time.
      American Apparel did the same a few years before Target decide to buy Zellers. Also Davids Tea did the same. So if they could do it means it will always work. Yes 2 overpriced trendy brand small sized stores compared to a department store
      American Apparel opened 1000+ stores between U.S and Canada in one continuous roll out

  • @arshawnbaidwan1236
    @arshawnbaidwan1236 Před 7 lety +168

    Zellers was lit I hated when it was gone ;-;

    • @Dylan-oi5su
      @Dylan-oi5su Před 6 lety +3

      Same :(

    • @mattroy3154
      @mattroy3154 Před 6 lety +17

      Zellers was THE SHIT. When I moved out from my parents I'd blow my paycheques there buying stuff for the kitchen , bathroom etc...
      That's also where I bought my pants all the time, just slacks that did their job well. Now that all my slacks are worn to shit, I tried a pair at sears, the field testing is good but now sears has gone tits up too. I don't know where to buy slacks from anymore :(

    • @chelc6101
      @chelc6101 Před 6 lety +7

      Same fam. I loved it so much. I used to go there with my grandparents when I was a kid, and when my boyfriend and I got together in 2009, their restaurant was our place. Wed go there and sit on the furniture and talk, check out the toy section, look at the clothes and art supplies, normal stuff for people in their late teens. I'm 26 now, and my bf is 27, we talk about it all the time. There's no stores like Zellers left. :(

    • @Happi-HD
      @Happi-HD Před 6 lety +1

      Matt Roy if you are in the gta, you could try going to the tanger outlet mall that's south of barrie. I got a pair of jeans from the gap for only $13, when the normal price was $70

    • @S8CEO
      @S8CEO Před 6 lety

      Me too

  • @tytsty5716
    @tytsty5716 Před 5 lety +1

    I remembered the huge place being rented out and also built in my local mall to fit a new target and it stay for a week than left and abandoned it and it lead to a big place being opened up in the mall for other small businesses so it actually help the community by leaving and abandoning Canada lol

  • @ANas-xq3ly
    @ANas-xq3ly Před 3 lety +5

    NEP-PEE-AN, Ottawa. Technically it's in a part of Ottawa called Bells Corners.

  • @rileysunderland1904
    @rileysunderland1904 Před 8 lety +20

    As an American, if you had to give me a choice between Target and Walmart, I'd choose Target any day. Even though they sell most of the same stuff, I just feel like certain things at Target have better quality than they do at Walmart. Plus at my local Target, the workers are a lot nicer than the ones at my local Walmart.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Před 8 lety +1

      +riley sunderland Target has some cool unique stuff. I remember as a kid my mom would always take us to the states before the school year started to get all the cool school supplies Target had. Zellars was kinda like Target too and had some cool unique stuff. Walmart is more basic stuff. Basically no Kmart, no Target, no Zellars, Sears basically gone, I think Future Shoppe and Best Buy are leaving Canada too, I think all the Saan stores closed, Eatons is gone, is the Bay even around anymore? Basically the whole country is going to shit as far as shopping goes. Sounds like almost every chain is gone. I wonder what is the reason for all of this. Surely Walmart can't be the reason it's mostly just a bunch of cheap crap that didn't even really compete with the other stores really.

    • @rileysunderland1904
      @rileysunderland1904 Před 8 lety +1

      +WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Yeah, Canada's market just seems weird. Like I think Canada relies mostly on Canadian brands than American brands from what I hear. But then again, the only thing I really know about Canada is Tim Horton's, bagged milk, and everything I learned from How I Met Your Mother (which I'm pretty sure was all stereotypes) But idk about Canadian Walmarts, but if you go to almost any Walmart in the states like in the middle of the night, it's quite sketchy. My cousin went there at like 2 am one time and she said someone tried to sell her weed, and there was nothing but people just walking around smoking blunts. Probably wouldn't surprise me if Canadian Walmarts were the same around that time of night.

    • @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep
      @WaterspoutsOfTheDeep Před 8 lety

      riley sunderland
      lmao that sounds like an exaggeration. Unless here in sin city las vegas the walmarts are magically the only walmarts not sketchy late at night haha.

  • @flamingofiend
    @flamingofiend Před 7 lety +17

    I remember seeing the start and end of target here. There were a few stores that opened in Calgary, but none did very good. Most of us just continued to go to Superstore and Walmart. I personally rarely went to Target. None of my family members rewlly went there either.

    • @rosendorendonjr
      @rosendorendonjr Před 6 lety

      Salabetta but why? What was the difference between them both?

    • @tannenottup5036
      @tannenottup5036 Před 6 lety

      Target had all the same stock as any other mid range department store, minus the customer loyalty.

  • @jextra1313
    @jextra1313 Před 5 lety +4

    5:48 I recognize that Zellers/Target/Empty building!