Abandoned - Disney's America
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- A story of Disney's attempt to build a more "local" theme park in Virginia. A park catering to the United State of America's long history. This is Disney's America.
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I'm from NOVA, and the fact that people were worried about the urbanization of the area is hilarious. The area is becoming filled to the brim with cookie cutter houses
Spaser15 damn man too bad! That park would have been cool.
Spaser15 As a resident of Manassas, I can confirm
It would help the economy here too, I will say the traffic is pretty bad so that would be a real downside.
yeah.....shame.... it would have been great
Spaser15 I’m from nova too...
"We don't want Disney to move in because it might urbanize the area"
*Builds a subdivision instead*
Not only that, but disney was going to expand the highway to alleviate traffic. When they pulled out the highway never got expanded and now traffic is 10 times worse!
Sounds a lot like the rhetoric from the left. They object to the very same things they stand for and go so far as to accuse Trump of causing socialist like problems. Still waiting for that hope and change we were promised 10 years ago... At least we're getting it now with the Trumpmeister.
@@pantherplatform as i loved to say during the last administration...i like the country I have so save your hope and keep the change. Government just gets in the way my friend. Seems like you see it too.
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodSnyderMan you know it. We the people are more than capable of governing ourselves. If we weren't, we'd be under martial law 24/7.
Just make out already.
The short sightedness of the public is amazing. Today, Northern Virginia is a nothing but a plethora of strip malls, burbs and heavy traffic and no benefits to residents unless you enjoy that type of chaos.
@John Edwards Well first off, going out and calling him an asshole was really dickish and just really unscary.
In general, I will say from being a local, a lot of northern VA is burbs, traffic, and malls (Tysons corner, DCA, and IAD). The parts of VA that you are referring to are pretty much historical monuments and other than that there isn't shit to do (unless going to a mall or arcade is your thing).
As far as the bustling metropolis, I think that there are two kinds of people. People who like the suburbs and concrete jungles and then there are ones who don't. I'm in the middle I couldn't really care less. I instead care about what there is to do in the vicinity. There's nothing to do and it's not the greatest place to live ngl. Sorry people just don't get all gitty about the METRO and city infrastructure like you.
Now... Don't be an asshole...
@John Edwards FYI: I would move out of here if I could. My parents work in Washington and are both politicians. I'm only 16. Can't go to nightclubs or bars for obvious reasons. I don't really think a 16-year-old should be having sex either (but hey that's just me :). I have a pretty decent social life in high school and have an okay job (but I don't personally want to be working at McDonald's forever).
Once I turn 18 I will be moving. I don't like it here. There is seriously nothing to do here. I don't really see the draw in nightclubs or in bars. I see the draw in attractions that I can go to and experience. Having sex isn't an attraction for me, I see it as a commitment (sorry).
Something is seriously wrong with you. I don't know why you would go so far off the deep end because people don't like a city. Speaks numbers about your character.
@John Edwards Don't forget the traffic, lol.
@@mcdisneybuilders7173 Well, there a couple of large theme parks. They are a bit far, but great parks. Busch Gardens Williamsburg and Kings Dominion.
@@mcdisneybuilders7173 Don't apologize. Having a high view on commitment is a good thing that, in my opinion, should be more widespread.
The place they were planning to build it was 5 mins away from my house. I will never forgive Northern Virginia. I could've had a kick ass job at Disney.
I seriously saw my town on the map
you really want them to put a theme park 20 miles from a battlefield?
Honestly, better than just bulldozing the place into housing estates. Like what happened.
Giordan Diodato How will that effect the area??? That makes no sense. People will put parks by graveyards and no one will bat a eye.
@@GiordanDiodato Anheuser-Busch has a theme park 7 miles from Yorktown Battlefield and Jamestown Settlement, and 4 miles from Colonial Williamsburg. Paramount has a Theme Park 20 miles Richmond and the battlefields there
The Mount Fuji ride in the Japan theme park would had been dope
yep
Blvckkeef isn't it basically Expedition Everest?
japotak99 The only things they would have in common are "Asian mountain". Japan has a completely different culture and design esthetic from Nepal or any other country the Himalayas go through
but... the area around it would be a weeaboo pest zone that would be practically impossible to remove
It actually would've been a Godzilla coaster.
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Someone's going to build something near your house on that open parcel of land. You get to choose one of the following:
1) Prison
2) City dump
3) Factory
4) Disney park
People would have to be pretty messed up to miss having the Disney park nearby, and with their income there's a high liklihood of sufficient revenue for them to uphold the infrastructure of traffic and utilities improvements as a result of their construction.
If the land near the historical battlefield was so sacred, why build houses? It's still building, right?
but it wasn't for the entertainment industry
@@GiordanDiodato Right, just a sea of crappy overpriced houses instead that don't create jobs.
A prison would be ok. Living next to a prison is the safest place in the whole country. Sure, once in a while someone breaks out, but the basic idea of a prison break is to get the hell away from the prison as far as possible, so they would not hang around next to it for long. And even when some criminals come to your house, it would still be better than a hundred busloads of fat-fuck-families with fanny packs wearing hats that look like the ears of Mickey Mouse.
@Matthew Taylor You're talking about houses that are worth close to 1.5 mill each!
@Fifthrider - …why stop at 4 choices?
5) University
6) Research park
7) Community college
8) Ecological preserve
9) Family farms
10) Agricultural tech center
…or a well-planned combination of all six of the above. Such developments exist all over the world.
Expand your imagination a little!
I live in the area and was closely following the debate surrounding Disney's America at the time. The loudest complaints were that this was right around a major historical site, and, rightly or wrongly, few people trusted Disney to handle that with the appropriate respect. *That's* where the concern about increased traffic came into play. Very few people were complaining that the park would lead to too much urbanization. It's not like the area was especially rural to begin with.
What they were worried about, and, I would argue, with some justification, is that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to build a major theme park in the area without a corresponding growth in the surrounding area. That's precisely what happened in Anaheim and especially Orlando, which were relative backwaters until Disney rolled in. The growth in those places was less to do with Disney's own plans, at least initially, but with the various hotels and shopping that grew up in response to the increased traffic Disney attracted. And, simply put, that's not something that Manassas could have supported. As I said, it wasn't undeveloped by any means, but it wasn't developed for the tourist business that Disney had in mind. The amount of actual undeveloped land was fairly small, and what remained was complicated by things like historic preservation concerns. And there were more mundane concerns, as well, like adding to traffic congestion in what was already one of the two most congested areas in the country, the affect on property values, and so on.
And as for the park itself, while the concept was intriguing, it's also hard to imagine how Disney's ambitions wouldn't have ultimately given way to exactly the same kind of experience all of their other parks became. Both Disney Studios and Animal Kingdom started out with a similarly high-concept "not your typical amusement park" premise, and both eventually abandoned much of that in favor of essentially Magic Kingdom with slightly different theming. And that's something that deeply worried both historians and locals, to whom the historical significance of Manassas was a deeply serious thing, and not something anyone was keen to seen devolve into commerical kitsch.
Simply put, Disney's entire plan showcased an almost _stunning_ lack of familiarity with both the practical and cultural issues inherent to developing in the region, and the company seemed to lose interest when it became clear that they might have to make certain compromises to win over their opposition. And, more than anything else, that's why it's probably the best for all involved that Disney's America never happened. In the end, the concept just wasn't compatible with the region, like trying to build the world's largest water park in the middle of the Sahara.
This comment is a good comment; I appreciate the addition of more insight.
I feel like, as an outsider looking in, the placement was one of the larger issues. Anyone who knows anything about the South-Eastern United States knows that they hold their history in very high regard, and the idea of just expecting them to accept a massive theme-park being built so close to where many of them had ancestors die was naive and very wishful thinking on Disney's end.
@@thevideoistheking8834 A long comment doesn't mean someone is upset.
the ironic part is Disney was actually planning to help expand the roads to four-lanes to help alleviate the traffic problems, but after the park got cancelled that never happened and that place apparently still has major traffic congestion problems.
@@jacksonteller3973 The DC area already has a *lot* of four-plus lane roads. Every time they've been proposed with the promise that they'd reduce congestion, they've pretty much failed to do that. The number of cars always seems to increase to fill the added lanes. Adding more lanes would have been extremely unlikely to offset the number of added cars a Disney park would've brought to the region.
@@seancdaug my bad, I meant to say eight-lane.
The site is only around 15 minutes from my house. A very unfortunate shame it never came to fruition. Today it's become a large housing development and a country club. I-66 already brings in a lot of traffic from around the country, so I don't see how this park would change a lot. I asked my uncle about it, and he's been working at Disney for over 20 years as a waiter at the Italian restaurant on Main Street in WDW, and he really did not know a lot more than I and the public did, so I can presume that in the company itself, it was not a very public matter.
Well, let's just throw in more traffic than I-66 already deals with, so that delays and congestion are even more widespread than they already are. Not to mention that Kissimmee is hardly a gem to look at (where WDW is located). Most residents of the Orlando area avoid it like the plague for much of the year.
Country club?! EWWWWWWWWWW.
And btw, I live in Fairfax County and I myself would love if the park happened.
PinkCircleO8 I live right near Manassas. My cousins only live around 5-6 minutes from the plot of land that was going to be the park.
InuKun2008 true but it would have saved people from around the DMV the $200 airfare just to even get to Orlando or L.A. or the 14 hour drive in the automobile.
VD Peruvian True. Like when I was 6, me and my family traveled down by car too Orlando to go to Disneyworld and then later on stay with relatives. Well one of the reasons why we drove was cause it was like only 3 1/2 months after 9/11.
10/10 would watch again
Thanks for watching!
+Bright Sun Films Dreamland Japan
Just wondering does Universal or any other theme parks have as much abandoned stuff as disney? If so would you do videos on it?
+Corky Dude there's universal studios Dubai i don't know if they broke grown
And again...
Disney has abandoned so many projects
Since they got rid of Eisner, they've been screwing up left and right.
They have worse commitment issue than a hooker
Including the traditional family.
@@heru-deshet359 their books would say otherwise. robert iger took it to a whole different level
Every multi billion dollar corporation has. Better to cut losses early than lose waaaay more money after construction, staffing, etc etc
6:06 - "300,000 soldiers died" at Manassas?! No - 1st Bull Run= 800 dead, and 2nd Bull Run = 2,800... So, maybe 3,600 in total.
300,000 would of been the end of the country as we know it. Or even a quarter of that for that matter.
Tbh building anything in Virginia is hard. People out here see everything as historical. Like thus old falling apart house that has no historic value hasn't been taken down. For people think it's important when it's really not. Virginia is just a very Historic area where a lot of battles and history has happened. Though I wish that this park opened for I would have loved it. History is one of my favorite things.
Yea I love history im thankful I live 5 mins from the Manassas battlefields
Yeah I live thirty minutes away from Fredricksburg Virginia and we go there every weekend. I also live in like a mine full of battle fields my dad takes us to them all the time.
im between fredericksburg and culpeper
why did you write "tbh" ?? It added nothing to your point.
I live down in Southwest Va. The people in charge here seem to refuse to build anything new for fear of "tarnishing the small town appeal".
That concept art got me hyped and now I really want that Park to be real. Also I LOVE American history so I would have died!
Danny Boy SAME
Michael Jones yes, yes there Is loads of history. Such as: The Civil War, Vietnam war, All sorts of stuff
@Michael Jones lol you are black.
Danny Boy I’ve always loved concept art, especially Disney’s Imagineers’ concept art. I always look for the concept art photos in books about the Disney projects. I want books only of their concept art. The renderings make me feel excited & happy!
There is still rumors that Disney was thinking about reviving the idea, which I definitely hope and pray that it will be because it would be reasonably close to me.
I think Disney is pretty much done building in the US. There are many more opportunities overseas right now but even those are starting to dry up.
There was a thought they would build a park in Brazil but good thing that never happened. Though there are a lot of old Olympics venues I'm sure they could get for pretty cheap. ;)
Maybe at Disney World.
Nah Disney has room to expand Floridas park to the size of four Manhattans. Massive massive amount of land.
yes! I could even see my town at 5:06
it would also have reasonable traffic. i do not feel like dealing with that with me living 10 minutes away.
I live in Va and I can attest to this state being against anything fun.... its horrible for entertainment as a state
you haven't lived in Pennsylvania...
airricksreloaded I’ll have to disagree with this one
airricksreloaded I live hear too. Bush Gardens Dude
I live in northern Virginia and it sucks that I have to go all the way to Florida or California for Disney. Thanks alot older generations 😑
neighboring state west virginia says hi
THAT IDEA SEEMS SO COOL! Just walking into different American eras and learning about them is beyond amazing 😍
DAMN WISH THEY WOULDVE BUILT THIS TBH
I know I'm so freakin close I would've died of happiness
Right!! I live right next to Virginia so this would have been way better to go to vs the one in Florida :P
I'm guessing you don't live in NoVA.
exactly, I am in Ohio, and this would have been an easy 7-hour drive, VS a 15-hour drive To Walt Disney World.
Tai Lan I'm in Virginia I was gonna be close to the park
"Don't let Disney slip Virginia a Mickey." I'm sorry but that's fuckin hilarious.
Best opposition logo ever. lmao
As some one who is taking classes for a History degree..... I WANT THAT CIVIL WAR PARK
Go to a museum or a library. They're cheaper.
I agree it would be a fun amusement park that would be educational as well
KCatcher 38
Exactly but only takes one person that would say racist even if depicted history exactly as was.
AS ANOTHER PERSON GOING FOR THEIR HISTORY DEGREE I FREAKING AGREE!
I imagine it would have turned out more or less exactly like Animal Kingdom. A lot of high-concept ideas for a large-scale zoo or animal preserve that eventually get scaled back considerably in favor of a more traditional theme park. Certainly, that was what critics of the park at the time were concerned about. For all of Disney's plans for a different kind of park, with a greater focus on genuine history, Disney never quite managed to convince enough people that they wouldn't modify their plans down the road.
California Adventure may have been lackluster in the beginning, it certainly has become very popular since. I went about a year after it opened and it just seemed empty. Now its more crowded than Disneyland.
I live in Los Angeles and used to love DCA because it was pretty empty and I could enjoy the rides throughly. A few years ago, they revamped the park and is even better but, just like Disneyland, not it's overcrowded.
It's been about 5 years or so since I've been there. Haven't been since they added the Cars land or whatever though, so not so sure if anything is incredibly different or if it's still the same. Either way, I didn't find it to be so bad even back then.
I do wish this had happened, I live in VA and it'd be cool to have more parks in the state
Well, maybe not this exact theme, but I'd love a traditional Disney Park here
Samme I live in Virginia and it's to bad this never happened. Now I have to go all the way to Florida!?
same here I live in Maryland I was hoping for Disney at the National Harbor
Same, it sucks!! now i have to move to Orlando, FL in a month to be near disney lol
I'm guessing that you don't live in NoVA though, as the answer is rather obvious if you've ever seen I-66 traffic in Fairfax or Prince William (which is the county that would have been the host) counties.
I’m a History major and love this park idea. This would have been so great for introducing children to American History. It’s like a warm up for the real history in dc.
but it would have been 20 miles from Manassas Junction. Kinda disrespectful...
@@GiordanDiodato so let's make it 21 miles.
@@GiordanDiodato And building a golf course is better?
I live in the neighborhood they built where Disney was supposed to be and it makes me sad the plans never went through
Jayden Butler
That's awesome! So live in one of the million dollar houses on golf course! Single? Lmao jkjkjkjk
@@rnintn6442 Million Dollar house with vinyl siding. Cheap Toll Brothers building.
I lived 30 min away as a kid, when we moved there I was excited to hear about it coming, and disappointed when it was cancelled a few years later. The story was heavily covered in the local tv stations and newspaper, one of the biggest arguments against it as I remember was people wanted to preserve the rural nature of the area in the county north of rt 29. I thought it was ironic 10 years later the area was filled with mcmansions lol.
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i lived in Haymarket (Rt55/Antioch Rd) and coincidently we had just moved away from California (lived about an hour away from Disneyland) and was super excited to hear that i wasn’t going to be missing Disney after all. So, with all the people up in arms about desecrating a Battlefield, i urge you all to take a look at the Map of the proposed park and overlay that over Google maps today. Hmmmm interesting!!! where were all those “angry historians” when they put in 50,000+ or so homes and businesses???? Curiously absent. Makes me wonder and believe that there was more behind this than they said. I know in the same area, a few years before, there was supposed to be a Horse Racing track which got shot down then Disney swooped in and bought the land. Might be more like some angry gamblers. But total BS... Locals here were drinking the cool-aid believing #1, Disney was going to pave over the actual battlefield #2, that traffic would be hell. However living around Disneyland and visiting Disneyworld a million times, you know Disney makes things right and would have upgraded all the roads to handle the increased traffic and anything else necessary so as not to negatively impact the area. And REALLY??, having Disney around would kill local businesses and attractions? If that were the case, Universal, etc would have stayed away from Orlando.. Orlando would still be the nothing blip on the map as they were before Disney came along. It was all a hoax to convince the masses to protest and get Disney out for reasons that has never come to light. Maybe it was that builder who really wanted them out, possibly getting the land for cheaper than it started... It is an expensive area now.. someone made out big time which may have been the plan all along.. Criminal!!!! We still need a few more US based parks, hate traveling to Orlando or California. Be nice if there were a few more parks closer. Hope Disney decides to revisit coming back to VA
I WANT THAT MT. FUJI RIDE. Seriously, Epcot is easily the most boring park, and a roller coaster would be great.
Even now, a Mount Fuji ride would be almost impossible. Back when the concept was first tossed around, Kodak was a major sponsor of the Disney parks and felt uncomfortable with the idea of an attraction named after a mountain that shares its name with one of Kodak's biggest competitors: Fujifilm.
EPCOT is the best park. Wait until you turn 21 and you'll understand why.
Yeah, Epcot is pretty lame. It needs something new. I say disney should use it's successful properties and turn Innoventions into a Marvel/ Star Wars themed area. It could be all about the technology of these universes and have a ton of interactivity.
+teehee Obviously the drinks, but imagine that AND a giant mountain roller coaster. Yeah, pretty amazing.
Epcot is definitely my least favorite park, but I don't think it's boring. Especially not with the new version of Test Track. But I do agree that they should build some type of Rollercoaster there.
I appreciate someone on youtube finally giving Eisner the credit he deserves. Not all of his ideas worked out, but he had ideas and he had a vision- something that can't be said of Iger
Dear People in VA: You realize that it could have brought revenue to your area, right?
Regressive assholes.
Sterling is already flooded and shit on, all of Northern Virginia is. What would have been better? A Disney theme park with resorts and hotels and all the tax revenue and jobs that come with it, but the state and county has to pay for road improvements. Or single family homes, townhouses, and apartment buildings where the state and county need to pay for road improvements along with other infrastructure? There is so much sprawl now there is a hospital in Haymarket for fucks sake.
Yes. We are dumbassed tbh.
Northern VA = richest and fastest growing region in the country. I think we're okay.
Besides, why worry about urbanization so much? Kings Dominion is right down the way in the middle of nowhere, all these years it's existed it's still in the middle of nowhere. 🙄
Small tidbit, but this had me laughing a bit (sorry). 300,000 soldiers didn't die at Manassas (6:00 into the video). That'd be about 3/5 the total casualties in the Civil War in one battle lol.
+mattsme13 I honestly don't know how that got into the script, that's a mistake on my part, however I do believe it was published in an article and I took it from there without thinking.
Bright Sun Films Hahaha! No problem! Awesome work on the series! I binge watch all the episodes every few months so I can tell my friends lol. Keep it up!
so... 1/5 the total number of casualties died at Gettysburg?
Damn
Out of all the different planned and abandoned park/attraction concepts, this is one of the most disappointing ones to see fail. I love history and having this park would have been very cool. What is your biggest disappointment Jake? I would be cool to know your opinion.
Sorry this is late but what makes it even worse is the fact that most of the people who were so up in arms about the park said nothing as the same land was urbanized years later.
@@mills2639
I understand the place where their grievances were coming from, it's a shame nonetheless.
@@danielflanard8274 yes
im from the DMV area and knowing there could of been a disney attraction within an hour from my houses would of been great
I know people hate on Eisner and he wasn’t perfect but he was one of my favorites because like Walt, he was passionate, bold and imaginative. All things Disney seems to lack today.
In my eyes eisner was perfect
Eisner revived the company. He’s the center of the Disney Renaissance.
I hate the fact that they never made this park happen. I love just an hour away from the original location and it would have been such an amazing thing to happen in our area. We get so many tourist anyway, this park would have made everything even better. Loudoun Country prides its self on being the richest country in country and a Disney park would have made it even richer.
literally so sad that this park never occurred. every time i go to D.C. i always say why isn’t there anything Disney? (i’d even take a Disney store) I would go to this park yearly if it happened. such a lost great idea.
I wonder if they planned to have any reference to slavery in the park. Kind of awkward
sirpsychosexy people would complain if they did, people would complain if they didn't. they can't win with controversial issues.
Oh Geesh! Always gotta make it about negativity.
sirpsychosexy Slavery is a part of our history. People will react either way.
Dawn M.
Only because the rest of the culture is still hyper-fixated on it. Where I live, the Netherlands, and where my parents live, Suriname (a former Dutch colony) it's hardly brought up, if ever. We have just as much of a slavery history as the US, but we don't really care since it's in the past. If you want proof of this, look up "Monsieur Canibal, Efteling" A cannibal themed teacup ride from 1988 in a park based around mostly Dutch culture and folklore where the centerpiece of the attraction is a stereotypical African cannibal caricature eating a giant ice cream cone.
For years no one cared, and the only thing people really talked about was about how annoyingly catchy the ride music is. That is until about a year ago, an American journalist wrote a story about how racist it is and "how horribly ashamed the park and its guests should be for accepting such an offensive image in a country with slavery in its history". There was an outrage afterward... From Dutch park fans telling the American complainers to get lost and leave their beloved cannibal alone. It's just funny how two countries with similar histories go about these things in completely different ways.
Yeah, they especially wouldn't get away with it now. Social justice groups wince even at the mention of the Civil War. It would be a very bad business move.
I love your content, especially the “abandoned series” I think it is really interesting to learn about what things that were left behind by companies
That's a shame, I love theme parks that live Americana. :D
Considering it was 20 miles from a battlefield, it would have gotten a LOT of criticism.
Larry Bundy Jr M.
I swear, you always show up in the least expected places
Chiara Offreduccio ya or Bush Gardens. That would be fun idea. Better that the idea
Livin la vida locAmericana
“No dont build a theme park, it’ll urbanize the damn place! Here, build a shit ton of houses instead.”
Preventing urbanization by urbanizing, but slightly different. Surely Einstein envies those people.
i remember hearing about this back in the day! i would have gone too, it sounded awesome. thank you for the Blast from the past Bright Sun Films!
Man a Disney theme park in Virginia? That's so much closer than Florida!
Come on Disney! Build it!
You should do a video on the Dixie Square Mall in Harvey, Illinois. Many would recognize it from the Blues Brother's Movie.
Yesss
Yes that be coo
Don't forget woodvile mall.
YES! Please do Dixie Square!
Thanks
You should do abandoned "Indian Ridge condos" at Branson Missouri. They're so creepy!
Or pruitt igoe in st louis
Omg omg I LOVE THE CEDAR FAIR REFRENCE!!! I thought I was the only one that hated them for what they did to geauga lake !! Great video
I freaking love this channel!
How about a Disneyland Canada instead? Instead of the teacup ride we can have spinning buttertarts 😛
literally dieing right now XD
Disney would sell Kraft Dinner for $9 a bowl.
+Duke Coughlin let alone the cost of a poutine
that only can operate for three months a year kinda kills tht
Are there any temperate areas in Canada though? I know the West Coast is warmer, but isn't still kind of rainy and cloudy over there? I don't know. I'm asking.
Disneys problem is their imagination is too big for their pockets
That's my problem too
There's a dick joke to be made here, and I just can't quite get it up.
killerkirbydude what a dick, not even thinking of a joke
thats the same way i feel when i poop
Are you stupid? they have a lot of money.
@bsf You've come a long way since your first few episodes where you were mumbling and stumbling throughout your narration. You are now a pro at it. 👍👏
They should just build this as an add-on to Magic Kingdom. It would be a perfect fit right behind Liberty Square and Frontierland.
This theme park should have happened! I went to DC a few years ago, and this would have blown anything I saw there out of the water. I love the idea of going through the history of America in a theme park. And the civil war battle field reenactments would have been awesome. I don't know why those people were against it, it would have brought so much money to the surrounding area.
I am finding your video's absolutely fascinating. Glad I found your channel.
I just came back from the Defunctland episode to appreciate this episode of Abandoned again. Also, you showing up in that Defunctland episode gave me a heart attack from surprise. But a good surprise. Here's to hoping you're also in the DisneyQuest episode
As someone who lives in NOVA I would have absolutely loved this!!! I wish they ended up actually doing this.
It was mostly community opposition that sank it. Somehow people imagined that if Disney wasn't built, that land and the nearby areas would remain sparsely developed. They were dead wrong, and today the area is all built up with suburban sprawl.
why the hell would they just decide to stop a good idea like this all because of some whiny people?
people can be sensitive
The area is one of the most affluent in the country. Rich people dont want crowds of common people in their neighborhood.
I've actually seen a resort & golf club built near a tiny California town close off once-public areas into snooty gated communities, turn camping spots & public beaches into homes with private beaches, buy out, shut down, or drive away small locally owned businesses, pollute, use up, or drain the local lakes, ponds, & rivers, & if they hired the locals at all, the wages were pitiful. Hell, the town's population is now so pitifully small that my highschool had more graduates than the town has residents, & the last grocery store just shut down, forcing people to have to drive to the next town for goods.
We have plenty of room up here in PA. Although, Disney is probably scurred of having to compete with Hershey Park.
HAHAHA...HAHAHAHAH! sorry to revive a dead comment but that was a pretty good joke. (ps not trying to hate on your favorite park but that place kinda bored me, i guess i went on a slow day or something but it was pretty expensive and empty. not that disney isnt expensive)
TOO BUSY WATCHING THE PERISCOPE STREAM LOL
#jakeisgod
I ❤ your picture
+Melissa Cortes Hah thank you
The live stream was 🔥🔥🔥
+Hubert Binienda awk
really diggin the abandoned series. great work
As a historian, I love the creativity and what could have been an intriguing place to visit.
could you do a video on the abandoned Union Station Mall in St. Louis? It's an abandoned train station in downtown St. Louis that was turned into a mall and hotel. it was really popular at one point but now it's completely empty and basically abandoned. I got in a couple weeks ago and it's really creepy because all of the historical stuff and some of the stores are still intact even tho they haven't been touched in years. It's pretty sad that such a cool historical place is now abandoned in the middle of St Louis. Anyways, I thought you might be interested. I love your videos, keep up the great work 💗💗
Make Disney's America great again
think about the people near by, like me! imagine the traffic! god
The ways if you're going north to Disney America it wouldn't have been easy trust me I go up there once every few months and traffic already sucks around Richmond Williamsburg in the summer
Hell take the I-70 east from Friedrick, MD to Baltimore during both rush hours
savage
AGREED! (Sorry, I want Walt’s Disney. I’ll even take Eisner’s Disney. Not this “Disney” we have today.)
Great breakdown of Disney’s battle with NOVA.
On a side note: While stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center (Georgia Avenue variant), I took my soldiers to The National Harbor on several occasions to enjoy one of the best (and cheapest @$36) lobster, clam, and mussel bakes that I’ve yet to discover on the east coast. From what I can find, Pier 2 *still* holds said bakes on the weekends during the spring and summer months.
-Doc
So interesting, thank you for sharing. Never knew about Disney's America.
The idea of Disney taking over the entire country reminds me of that one joke Some Jerk with a Camera made about the Bolivian mice-
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES
You mean the Bolivian mice that can crawl inside the human brain--
TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES - CRANIAL REMODULOCATION IN PROGRESS
--Duuuhhhh, if the brain was candy, it would be strawberry! Duh-huhuhuhuh!
Hey I just wanna say I sent one of these videos to my mom and she ended up forwarding it to my entire family now every time we meet up we all talk about the last episode of abandoned XD it's ridiculous but amazing
Love Disney videos. Should have been a clue when my honeymoon in 99 was first time WDW evacuated for hurricane lol!
your researchers do an amazing job!
These documentary type videos are so addicting .
Do you mind talking for next episode about what happened with Blockbuster ? ^^
Netflix, Hulu, Redbox, and other streaming sources killed video rental stores.
I can tell you. $1.00 per rental given to handgun control inc . you see we americans don't like being forced to give money to support an anti American agenda.
+Featherweight Adam they live on in ohio still. Family video, not blockbuster.
Keep Up the good work!
Dear Jake
Huge fan
Got to say I love your videos and look forward to New ones!!
If possible you should do a abandoned episode on the odyssey restaurant at Epcot!!
It's one of those curious buildings that everybody sees that not many know what it is.
This is such a weird channel to subscribe to but always so interesting...
bright sun... can you tell the story of when Walt bought 1000's of acres around Marceline, Mo to build Disney Midwest? there have been several books written about it. :-)
@11:00 My in-laws lived in Dominion Valley's 55+ and over community for a handful of years. What a beautiful area with the nearby hills dominating the western evening skyline.
Would have been perfect for the airfield....
We've all since moved out of Northern VA , it's way too crowded with urban sprawl , but the historians didn't fight that?
This is amazing , and due for an update !!!
Do blockbuster
Good vid btw I've been waiting for weeks!👍
I'm excited for all the "minor" stuff Disney has planned with expanding their already made parks. But I'd love for them to build a new park here in the States. Whether it's in Disneyland Resort, Disney World, or just a single park somewhere else, I don't care. Just like to see that happen.
I really want them to go back and rethink the park made specifically for the villains. I have a mighty need for that park to be built.
Personally I think we should only have the two, they should work on using up more space in world
I'm from Fairfax and have spent a lot of time in the area this would've been in, and I can tell you this would've been an absolute failure. For starters, unless they did charter buses, visitors would've been forced to rent cars as Haymarket was technically the middle of nowhere in the 90s and 22 miles from Dulles airport (Reagan Airport was even farther). Traffic would've also been miserable. At the time it would've opened, 66 would've still been two lanes going each way through Prince William County. The expansion was not completed through Haymarket until a couple years ago, and even mid-expansion in the late 2000s, the exit Disney's America would've had was always backed up and wasn't fixed until the expansion was completed. There was also the idea that schools could do field trips, and while this may have been more convenient for NOVA schools and rural districts out in that area, Virginia has rich history that allows for less expensive and more focused tour group spots regardless of where you live within the state (I can't tell you how many history field trips I had in the 2000s).
On the contrary, Disney had HUGE potential with that National Harbor location. There's a convention center right there and now MGM is nearby, so they lost out on having a family friendly alternative and convention business.
well done keep up the good work
All of your Disney related videos are very well thought out and researched; as well as interesting. Great posts and thank you ..... MAGA!
Can you imagine being a worker during Universal’s Studio site, and just seeing the CEO of Disney, EVERY DAY!!!, just watching you?
Someone has to know someone, cause I really want that story to be true.
I love these vids keep it up with all of theese🥇🥇🥇😀😀😀
The white roller-coaster from Disney's Americana was actually build in California Adventure. That park used to be lackluster but now they completely revamped and expanded it so it's really awesome now.
Dude this park would've been amazing
A NEW VIDEO ON ABANDONED WESTCOT IS OUT! czcams.com/video/-TCmGba7sb8/video.html
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Bright Sun Films why couldn't they build it I live near dc
Cedar Fair also killed the Star Trek Experience is Las Vegas
U know, your videos depress the hell outta me but I just can't stop watching them lol
This title put such a huge smile on my face!!😃All is right in the world again!!
since "Westcot" is in california and obviously in the west, would that mean that they'd have to change the florida park to "Eastcot"?
I've always sort of figured that "Westcot" was one of the working titles only. It never quite got far enough long to get a proper name change, but I imagine it would have ultimately ended up with something more mundane, like "Epcot West."
what does epcot even stand for?? lol
@@caligal1090 Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow
Build one in the forest and call it 'CampCot'.
“Corpritizing the country” hasn’t that been the last century.
I feel like I might have been someone who was skeptical of the project at the time but now am 10000% here for it.
At 5:50, that seems to be a video of the main road going down Vienna that I live by, cool to see!
They should've built it here in philly...we would've loved it here. 😢
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that this was abandoned in Northern Virginia.
Gotta remember it was 20 miles away from Manassas Junction, where the two battles of Bull Run took place, so it would be kind of disrespectful.
I'm thinking maybe somewhere closer to either Boston or Philadelphia?
Boston and Philly would probably get too cold for a year round park. Northern Virginia is pushing it too, frankly.
Sean Daugherty
Or in Upstate New York, please we don't have anything here.
Upstate New York is basically like Alabama and Central PA.
Omg! I love that idea! Disney America! Especially the first one!! Sad.😔
I actually did an historical impact study on that site, in the late 1990’s as a college intern with the National Park Service.
As someone who lives in the DC area, I get it. There is already so much traffic and congestion in the area that I would've opposed it as well.
I live on the disney america site!
+Rachel Zernick That's so cool!
Nice
Same, beyond the railroad tracks
My great-grandmothers farm was part of the land they were looking to buy for this, it butts up against what is now the fancy housing/golfing development. It was (and still is) a working farm.
Omg I live in NoVa where the park was to be built and NEVER knew this!!!
How did I not know of this I live like 15 minutes from the planned sight
Me to I'm so sad
Lol same
Same here. Hoodbridge anyone?
I also love 15-20 minutes from the sight.
Same dude
I live i Virginia and everything here is so boring so I wish they built disney america
I live in the Prince William btw
ASMR Squad
Well Virginia Was A Huge Part Of American History. For Example It Was Going To Be Capital. You Can Get Mad Because You Don't Like History, But Its Not Boring. You Just Seem To Be One Of Those People Who Have To Complain. Plus If You Don't Want To Go See Historical Stuff, Why Go To A Historical Park.?
You know, capitalizing every word doesn't actually make you seem smart. It has the opposite effect. Please fucking stop, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
IKnowWhereFranceIs Okay, when you live somewhere and historical things are the majority of what you're able to do, would you be happy? Living somewhere and going for tourist reasons are two different things. Second of all, you're making a lot of assumptions. Squad may very well like history, they might just not want to go see battle fields all the time or would rather something more immersive. Take into account this is also a park with rides and stuff to do that isn't directly related to history.
killerkirbydude It's A Typing Style,Honey ;)
A huge field trip for elementary/middle school students in VA consists of the historical triangle + a trip to Busch Gardens Williamsburg. I wonder if Disney’s America would have been the new thing.
We visited WDW in the early 90's and there was if I remember right pamphlets and some type of information booth about the Virginia location.