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  • SHOW TIME-STAMPS
    00:00:00 Intro
    10:13 Caitlin-NE | Are Believers Happier Than Atheists?
    20:34 RJ-CO | Bad Arguments For A Young Earth
    43:21 Jamie-WI | How Does DNA Create Neural Pathways?
    55:21 Jacob-CA | Atheist's Aren't Honest About Their Confirmation Bias
    1:03:07 Amanda-(NL) | Afraid Of Dying After Experiencing Horrifying NDE's
    1:18:33 Michael-MA | Remaining A Friendly Atheist And Advocate For Science
    SHOW NOTES
    Greetings Heathens! Hope you all are doing well, please continue to be safe out there. In today’s episode of Talk Heathen, Vi La Bianca is joined today by Dr. Darrel Ray. It’s going to be a great show!
    Let’s get to calls! Caitlin in Nebraska is studying psychology and has some specific questions for Dr. Ray regarding happiness. Who as a group are the most happy, is it the religious, is it the spiritual? Dr. Ray responds, folks within a community seem to be the most happy.
    RJ in Colorado is up next, claims that if you look at manmade structures, the oldest tree, and human demographics, all point to a young earth and not evolution. Why do we care and how does this prove theism is real? And he doesn’t think carbon dating is an acceptable way to gauge age. And doesn’t think it's necessary to cite sources. This is a fun call.
    Jamie in Wisconsin, is curious about DNA and how it can be encoded or programs our brain development. Dr. Ray attempts to set him straight with facts!
    Jacob in California wants to clear up a couple things from his previous call and wanted to call about the Atheist confirmation bias. He is just as condescending as before… but take a listen and make your own conclusions.
    Amanda in the Netherlands, is wondering about the fear of hell after deconverting and experiencing some NDEs. She is hopeful we can help her with this fear and how to work through it.
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  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham1892 Před 3 lety +352

    "Humans are smarter than dogs..."
    Not all of them, evidently.

    • @UltraCasualPenguin
      @UltraCasualPenguin Před 3 lety +7

      Chaser could've outsmarted RJ in competition.

    • @Waltham1892
      @Waltham1892 Před 3 lety +7

      @@UltraCasualPenguin I think RJ is more stiff competition for hamsters.

    • @mjallen1308
      @mjallen1308 Před 3 lety +1

      Waltham1892 pretty sure my Shiba is MUUUUUCH smarter than RJ

    • @Waltham1892
      @Waltham1892 Před 3 lety

      @@mjallen1308 granted...

    • @jmaniak1
      @jmaniak1 Před 3 lety +11

      It really makes me laugh when these people say I didn’t come from no monkey. They don’t do a good job of proving it.

  • @guyparris4871
    @guyparris4871 Před 3 lety +431

    RJ is as sharp as a bowling ball.

    • @askani21
      @askani21 Před 3 lety +17

      OUCH!!!!!!
      I just cut myself on that bowling ball's sharp edge....
      Lol love the expression, I'm keeping it ;)

    • @seanjones2456
      @seanjones2456 Před 3 lety +14

      Boy I say boy you're doing it all wrong!

    • @seanjones2456
      @seanjones2456 Před 3 lety +4

      @Toughen Up, Fluffy 😁

    • @dsshakespeare
      @dsshakespeare Před 3 lety +9

      This boy’s more mixed up than a feather in a whirlwind :)

    • @alasdairwhyte6616
      @alasdairwhyte6616 Před 3 lety +3

      more like a medium sized asteroid :D

  • @1JackStClair
    @1JackStClair Před 3 lety +136

    The oldest man-made structures we still see today doesn't make them the "first" man-made structures. It just means those are the oldest that still survived the earthquakes, floods, fires, tornados, volcanos, wars, and erosion.

    • @davecannabis
      @davecannabis Před rokem +11

      or made from wood, bones, or animal hides

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux Před rokem +7

      The first ones are bound to have been considerably smaller and more fragile, too.

    • @michaelmcaree6296
      @michaelmcaree6296 Před rokem +5

      @@mackhomie6 Yeah exactly. Most likely the oldest man made structure was a lean-to made out of wood and sinew. I forgive them not catching everything because he was a game of whack-a-mole.

    • @franktheexpertstrenchclub9025
      @franktheexpertstrenchclub9025 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Not to mention cave paintings and living sites that predate the earliest remaining human structures by like… tens of thousands of years

    • @warlordnipple
      @warlordnipple Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​​@@franktheexpertstrenchclub9025ave painting predates those structures by tens of thousands of years. Not even all were done by homosapiens.

  • @seanjones2456
    @seanjones2456 Před 3 lety +130

    What I learned from RJ's call is it's very important to stay in school

    • @ApostateAlloy
      @ApostateAlloy Před 3 lety +12

      Or to stay as far away from HIS school as you can.

    • @mikeaskme3530
      @mikeaskme3530 Před 3 lety +2

      @Sean Jones same here.

    • @mikeaskme3530
      @mikeaskme3530 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ApostateAlloy hell yeah.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Harvard and the rest of the Ivy league schools were all founded by Protestants or Catholics. Darwin went to bible school and held no scientific degree throughout his life.

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 Před 3 lety +5

      What I learned from RJ's call is that it's important to stop the Q-tip when there is resistance.

  • @TheKosmikid
    @TheKosmikid Před 3 lety +272

    "I'm just guessing" should be the way every theist call begins.

    • @NeverTalkToCops1
      @NeverTalkToCops1 Před 3 lety +9

      Or, "When I was a child, I had a dog..."

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +2

      Evolutionists are also guessing, that's why they can't necessarily agree on an exact date that humans appeared. Their estimates are 200,000 to 400,000 years. So your idolized evolutionists are guessing as well.

    • @TheKosmikid
      @TheKosmikid Před 3 lety +27

      @@rs72098 no they aren't. Guessing is not how science works.

    • @bomblade15
      @bomblade15 Před 3 lety +23

      @@rs72098 and you fail once again on any understanding of science.

    • @SaxyCalzone
      @SaxyCalzone Před 3 lety +19

      @@rs72098 lol are you the caller?

  • @aestroai8012
    @aestroai8012 Před 3 lety +166

    I am awestruck by the level of patience these people have! I can't believe how uneducated otherwise functioning modern man is.

    • @lmoral222
      @lmoral222 Před 3 lety +11

      Patience is key for a discussion to be held with mental tree stumps

    • @thinkfloyd2594
      @thinkfloyd2594 Před 3 lety +2

      I doesn't appear that RJ is functioning, so this is a cicrular argument. :-)

    • @ravarga4631
      @ravarga4631 Před rokem +3

      Information overload and a lack of critical thinking is a bad possibly dangerous combination,

    • @cursedkennedy7605
      @cursedkennedy7605 Před rokem

      this is why we need to keep nationalist out of state and government and out of the school board

  • @malamutekid8871
    @malamutekid8871 Před 3 lety +90

    “RJ, you need to go back to school.” Couldn’t have said better.

    • @carlbuxton9769
      @carlbuxton9769 Před 3 lety +4

      Going back to school won't help RJ.
      Some people are just beyond help, and incapable of intelligent thought.
      Schools can only teach, but if the words go in one ear and out of the other, there is nothing more that schooling can do. (The words need to hit brain matter to stay in the head)
      Let's face it, he would have to quadruple his IQ just to qualify as an halfwit.

    • @Lambert1386
      @Lambert1386 Před 3 lety +1

      The arrogance. LOL. RJ probably hung up and said, "That went well."

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Many universities teach that males can become females, and there are no differences between genders. Schools can teach blatantly false science in the name of atheistic ideology.

    • @petermeichan3160
      @petermeichan3160 Před 29 dny

      Kinderagrten ?

  • @Brammy007a
    @Brammy007a Před 3 lety +72

    I like when he says "the creationist myth makes more sense". This guy needs to record himself and play it back.

  • @TheMajesticSeaPancake
    @TheMajesticSeaPancake Před 3 lety +41

    He is right on the carbon dating except.....
    The study in question was INTENDED to show carbon dating doesn't work with living/recently deceased organisms. There's a reason we only use carbon dating for a certain age range, and the same for radioactive dating across the board, different half-lives mean different elements are more useful for certain time periods. The "carbon dating doesn't work" argument is based on leaving out the part that sometimes we test the limits of our tools so we figure out how to use them.

    • @NoHateLikeChristianLove
      @NoHateLikeChristianLove Před rokem +1

      They have no idea what dating methods exist, what they test, how they work, and why they’re used. He thinks carbon dating is the only dating method.
      And when you know nothing you’re saying is demonstrably true you’ve desperately got to find a way to destroy anything that could be used for said demonstration.
      So, in his small mind, if he can lie and throw out the entirety of a scientific field then his emotional entitlement can be validated.
      It’s like how psychics, ghost hunters, palm readers and other cons that deal in mysticism tell you that they’re the only ones to be trusted. Which is why they hated James Randy and Darren Brown. They demonstrate that these people are frauds.

  • @MultiCappie
    @MultiCappie Před 3 lety +76

    "They all centre 'round that Middle East area."
    (Except the ones in China, India, and Central America...)

    • @lulolie
      @lulolie Před 3 lety +7

      Also a lot of them center around the Middle East because it’s the “Fertile Crescent.” It’s called that for a reason, of course people wnould settle in areas with good prospects

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +2

      @@lulolie China, India, and Central America societies are younger than the fertile crescent according to archeologists. That includes written languages and building structures. So you basically missed the entire point of the argument.

    • @lulolie
      @lulolie Před 3 lety +6

      @@rs72098 the argument was that because most of the earliest societies were centered around the Middle East and Noah landed in the Middle East. I said that people would naturally settle in the Fertile Crescent. Your response is that Chinese, Indian, and Central American societies are younger than the Fertile Crescent, which, I will say if you meant that Fertile Crescent societies are older than other ones, then no f*cking duh, humans originated in Africa and the Fertile Crescent would have been one of the closest more arable places to settle. If you meant the actual piece of land then I’m offended that you would think I wouldn’t realize that the land and its topographical features came before societies in other places established after there were societies established in that place. The argument is only really addressing the origins of humans and society anyways, not the origin of the world.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +2

      @@lulolie The argument was for human societies, and the oldest human societies are centered around the middle east. Sumeria is in the middle east and is considered the oldest. The original post said "except for India, China" so they missed the point of the argument.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      China, India and Central American societies are not older than the middle east societies. That's even according to your own atheist archeologists.

  • @milkenobi
    @milkenobi Před 3 lety +51

    “Human’s ability to measure how old something is can be flawed ... but the information I found on a creationist is incontestable”

  • @CaptKwame
    @CaptKwame Před 3 lety +95

    And just imagine, this guy and people like him actually vote.

    • @NotAPacifist825
      @NotAPacifist825 Před 3 lety +10

      explains a lot, doesn't it?

    • @at6686
      @at6686 Před 3 lety +12

      And breed...a lot.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting the Christian majority democracies have always been technologically far ahead of Atheist communist countries. Perhaps you should move to atheist North Korea, I'm sure they'll let you vote there.

    • @at6686
      @at6686 Před 3 lety +26

      @@rs72098
      Except that’s not true. Most of Europe is majority secular as is the scientific community of places like the US, Israel and Japan. These places produce far more scientific break throughs than say the Islamic republicans, all of Catholic central and South America or Eastern Europe which is still mostly religious or places like North Korea which is more of a state religion of worshipping its leaders. The belief in an god or god like leader is negatively associated with free inquiry or scientific breakthroughs. Has been thruout history.

    • @ricardoignacio916
      @ricardoignacio916 Před 2 lety +2

      And don't allow athiests to vote in some states.

  • @lohkie2__3
    @lohkie2__3 Před 2 lety +18

    "I'm just guessing" the absolute best answer I've heard a theist give.

  • @enomiellanidrac9137
    @enomiellanidrac9137 Před 2 lety +37

    RJ the creationist: "human are the smartest mammals on the planet"
    Oh the irony.

    • @brucebostick2521
      @brucebostick2521 Před 3 měsíci

      naturalists will tell you that isnt a correct statement. there are different types of "intelligence," humans being highest in one form, but other animmals higher in differing kinds of intelligence.

  • @EssentialComment
    @EssentialComment Před 3 lety +33

    This was like VI talking to a 3 year old who swears that they did not steal the cookies from the jar whilst having cookie crumbs on their face , cookies in their hand whilst chewing cookies, cookies, cookies, and cookies everywhere and the cookie monster.

    • @twcnz3570
      @twcnz3570 Před rokem

      COOOOKIES!!!!!

    • @alkristopher
      @alkristopher Před rokem

      Dang it, now I want a cookie.

    • @TheSnoeedog
      @TheSnoeedog Před měsícem

      lol, I like to think of it as the 3 year old explaining to its parents that Santa Claus exists and the parents trying desperately to keep a straight face

  • @minhearg8331
    @minhearg8331 Před 3 lety +74

    Australian aborigines have been in Australia 50,000 years. They're still waiting for the flood to arrive.

    • @ProfezorSnayp
      @ProfezorSnayp Před 3 lety +5

      Actually there is a fascinating paper about Aboriginal stories from the Dreamtime related to sea level rise after the last ice age. It seems the stories passed down through generations mention more than once large parts of the Australian continent lost to the rising sea.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety

      The aboriginal unbroken culture argument is dependent on oral tradition, not science. If you believe oral passdown than you should also believe in the Greek pantheon.

    • @minhearg8331
      @minhearg8331 Před 3 lety +3

      @@rs72098 I'm sorry. Your response to my ironic dig at creationists has passed me by?

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      @@minhearg8331 I think you're arguing that aborigines have been on Australia for 50,000 years, when that's based off of mere folklore. They haven't been there that long, or they would have been far more advanced and would have a huge population.

    • @minhearg8331
      @minhearg8331 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rs72098 No, I'm arguing that creationism is a pseudo-science dreamed up by the gullible for gullible.

  • @roybarrows9733
    @roybarrows9733 Před rokem +21

    "If you times it by 2" Yup, this guy's a mathematical prodigy.

  • @arjenbootsma6881
    @arjenbootsma6881 Před 3 lety +84

    Text book example of Dunning Kruger.

    • @malamutekid8871
      @malamutekid8871 Před 3 lety +5

      Not as textbook as this one guy I talked with! He literally said that he “knew everything there is to know about evolution”, but he was so uneducated that he thought that theories turn into laws, and that the 2nd law pf thermodynamics disproves the evolutionary theory. If I had known as much as I know now, He would have lost that argument.

  • @simonlee9993
    @simonlee9993 Před 3 lety +24

    Here's the cool thing about mistakes: they make you better. Whether you are an individual, or a concept like science; Mistakes make you learn. Mistakes means that you didn't know something, and now you do. I love mistakes.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      True, and carbon dating is full of mistakes, so is modern science, which is why people should question scientists as well because they're not always correct. Especially when the math doesn't hold up.

    • @simonlee9993
      @simonlee9993 Před 3 lety +5

      @@rs72098 nice try. out of curiosity, by what metric are you questioning "the math," whatever "the math" means lol?

    • @ricardovonkrypton8908
      @ricardovonkrypton8908 Před 2 lety +2

      "The greatest teacher, failure is."
      - Yoda

    • @twcnz3570
      @twcnz3570 Před 2 lety +2

      And always best to learn from other's mistakes!😊

    • @69eddieD
      @69eddieD Před rokem +1

      @@rs72098 Go back to school.

  • @cemrecevikoz
    @cemrecevikoz Před 3 lety +21

    I think RJ is a perfect example of the lower band of the dunning kruger effect.

    • @TheSnoeedog
      @TheSnoeedog Před měsícem

      Given that the "lower band" of the Dunning-Kruger *GRAPH* is where you find the self-aware, competent individuals, there's a certain irony in *YOU* pointing the Dunning-Kruger finger at anyone, lolololol

  • @warmstrong5612
    @warmstrong5612 Před 3 lety +85

    His population doubling math hinges on everybody born NOT dying EVER.

    • @FatherManus
      @FatherManus Před 3 lety +25

      And no wars, no genocide, no infertility, no homosexuality, no pandemics, no natural disasters, no food shortages and birth rates remaining consistent for thousands of years.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +3

      Nope he's actually ONLY counting living offspring. 4 children is effectively doubling the parents population, hence 4 is 2 x 2. If you count the parents it would be 6 people. Please learn how to do math.

    • @adonaiabaddon93
      @adonaiabaddon93 Před rokem +8

      ​@@rs72098 vicarbradors comment still stands then

    • @davidsebastianelli1326
      @davidsebastianelli1326 Před rokem +3

      Raise your hand if you believe that Noah was 600 years old when he built the ark.

    • @gerritvalkering1068
      @gerritvalkering1068 Před rokem

      @@adonaiabaddon93 True, but KingJustice wasn't replying to VicarBrador, so I don't see why you brought it up. I was actually going to write the same thing. It's a well established, if inaccurate, postulate that a population without limiting factors increases exponentially. What VicarBrador pointed out was that there are indeed limiting factors, so an exponential increase should not be assumed.

  • @francelaferriere6106
    @francelaferriere6106 Před 2 lety +13

    "The creationist *myth* makes more sense than that..." and here we are, it's just a myth.

  • @mystuff8602
    @mystuff8602 Před 11 měsíci +4

    For anyone who's wondering: the snail shells thing was explained by the snails munching on plants that got their carbon from stones that had a high concentration of the wrong kind of carbon isotope, so when it got incorporated into the shells it gave the wrong ages.

  • @grantallard
    @grantallard Před 3 lety +16

    The isotopes of several elements are used to date different ages: Potassium 40 is for more than 20,000 years, and Uranium 238 is used for dating of more than 1 million years.
    Radiocarbon dating is limited to age of less than about 60,000 years.

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm surprised that you say 20,000 years for K-40, it has a half life of about 1000 million.

  • @thomasgallipoli8376
    @thomasgallipoli8376 Před rokem +7

    My favorite part about the fairy tale of Noah is that his descendants, despite having first hand experience of “the one true god” would immediately abandon this “truth” and adopt the “false gods” of the dead cultures and pick up where they left off without the slightest hiccup.
    Alongside the other sheer ridiculousness of nearly every aspect of that tall tale, that’s really unbelievable, considering that people’s faith in a god tends to be unshakable.
    “If you could reason with religious people, they wouldn’t be religious.”-House MD

    • @EGOS42
      @EGOS42 Před 2 měsíci

      I want a TV show called Noah: The Next Generation. All of the characters would be siblings who need to fuck each other to maintain the existence of their species.

  • @cutecatgirlnya
    @cutecatgirlnya Před 3 lety +20

    "Humans are smarter than dogs"
    Listening to you is really making me question that one, RJ.

  • @matthewjohnson3656
    @matthewjohnson3656 Před 3 lety +28

    An excellent rebuttal to this argument about the oldest structures is to point to currently existing aboriginal tribes that still have yet to build lasting permanent structures. By the logic he gives, those primitive tribes shouldn't exist since mankind has been around for 6000 years

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Are you referring to the aborigines in Australia? If you are, have you considered that they may not have reached Australia until a few thousand years prior? Their supposed unbroken culture of 75,000 years is based on ORAL PASSDOWN, not based on any scientific facts or written record keeping. They very well could've migrated from India a 1,000 years prior. If you want to use carbon dating on bones, that system has serious flaws.

    • @matthewjohnson3656
      @matthewjohnson3656 Před 3 lety +4

      ​@@rs72098 The logic the caller presents is that "Since the first human structures we find are only 6000 years old, then that must be how old mankind is". This of course only works on the two premises: 1. mankind inherently builds things out of stone or brick that can last forever' and 2. 'We have found the earliest of these structures.' The first premise if contradicted by the fact that there are still indigenous tribes today that haven't progressed beyond the hunter-gatherer stage and still haven't made long lasting structures. The excuse that a tribe having just moved there a few hundreds years ago wouldn't support this premise. The second premise is also unfalsifiable because its impossible to know if we have found the first building ever built. An earlier one might still be hidden somewhere or have been destroyed since then.

    • @megabeaver23
      @megabeaver23 Před 3 lety +2

      @@rs72098 We can use molecular data to determine when populations split from one another, either through non coding random repeats, the molecular clock which tracks single nucleotide changes on Mitochondrial DNA or Nuclear DNA.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety

      @Josh Ash degrees mean nothing if the argument can be completely disproven by basic math.

    • @user-pn4py6vr4n
      @user-pn4py6vr4n Před 2 lety +6

      @@rs72098 If it could be disproved with "basic math", someone smarter than you would have done so.
      Did you even watch the video? None of what you are saying is original, or unique. You're basically repeating what the other guy in the video was saying.
      You need to go back to school, son.

  • @johngrossman5185
    @johngrossman5185 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The way he says, if you times it by two!! 😂 just shows his level of education. I believe you mean if you multiply it by two.

  • @petermirtitsch1235
    @petermirtitsch1235 Před 2 lety +10

    I see RJ has never heard of the issues with saltwater and freshwater fish, in addition to drowned vegetation covered with brackish water.

  • @arthurneddysmith
    @arthurneddysmith Před 3 lety +5

    Caller:
    Self confidence : 10,
    Basic Knowledge: 2.
    Edit: "2" may be overly generous.

  • @jaeheeyoon6617
    @jaeheeyoon6617 Před 2 lety +6

    "Carbon dating is flawed." - confident about the age of man made structures in the middle East.

  • @mrdrone4253
    @mrdrone4253 Před 11 měsíci +10

    RJ's argument is one huge argument from ignorance and incredulity fallacy

  • @shanewilson7994
    @shanewilson7994 Před 3 lety +73

    RJ, this was just painful. Kent Hovind, AiG, these aren't actual scientific sources. It doesn't mean they are wrong, but on their own, their claims are utter crap.
    Please, educate yourself on the claims you're making because they are just so damned bad.

    • @guytheincognito4186
      @guytheincognito4186 Před 3 lety +8

      Indeed, Kent and AiG are Wrong in and of themselves.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 2 lety

      You follow Charles Darwin who went to bible college with no scientific degree. Your big bang theory comes from a Catholic Priest. There are plenty of scientists and mathematicians that don't buy into the evolution theory. There are many more that don't believe it but say they do because they're afraid the atheist cult will try to snatch their degrees from them.

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rs72098 Charles Darwin went to school to become a priest, however, that doesn't mean that his findings weren't correct. And his degree is far more relevant than Kent's diploma mill degree. But Darwin's degree is irrelevant because it is the facts that he discovered that support evolution, and we've moved far beyond what he found in his day.
      And again, who cares about who discovered the Big Bang, its the evidence that is important.
      And a tiny percent of scientists reject evolution.

    • @kennygallagher4700
      @kennygallagher4700 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rs72098 unlike others here (this is pointing at you), I dont like to paint with a broad brush. So while I dont speak for every atheist, I don't "follow" Darwin. The Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is something I do believe, however Darwin was wrong on a fair number of things, but given the time frame we understand he didn't have the tools or knowledge we do now.
      Also, a couple more rapid fire points: 1) you don't need to believe in Evolution to be an atheist. Atheism is the position on a God claim, not one's scientific beliefs 2) the current catholic Pope said that the Big Bang and Evolution are true, sounds like you need to fight the Pope first, not us. 3) the vast majority of accredited scientists believe in Evolution. 4) plain Atheism is not a belief system, therefore it literally can not be a cult.

  • @briancurrie2897
    @briancurrie2897 Před 3 lety +36

    There are trees older than the “young earth”

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +2

      Dated by rings, the oldest is around 4500 years. Trees dated by carbon dating (which is faulty) is less than 9,000. Still closer to the creation story than the evolutionists view that trees are over a billion years old.

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rs72098 Much older than your flood.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      @@kathryngeeslin9509 Much younger than the evolutionists view of when tree life started.

    • @mikeaskme3530
      @mikeaskme3530 Před 3 lety +11

      @@rs72098 who said there are trees that are a billion years old, no one?

    • @waxberry4
      @waxberry4 Před 3 lety +7

      @@rs72098 As trees never die, and fossils are not real?

  • @gabriellavedier9650
    @gabriellavedier9650 Před 3 lety +59

    There's a German phrase that roughly translates to "A face in need of a fist."
    Replace "face" with "voice" and you have him to a T.

    • @derwolf9670
      @derwolf9670 Před 3 lety +4

      Backpfeifengesicht?

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one Před 3 lety +1

      @@derwolf9670 YIS, I just had to think about that specific Ärzte-song XD and now it's stuck in my head...

    • @gabriellavedier9650
      @gabriellavedier9650 Před 3 lety +1

      @@derwolf9670
      That's the one

    • @hitmanzzz141
      @hitmanzzz141 Před 3 lety +1

      Gesicht wie ein Feuermelder? Reinschlagen und wegrennen?

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Nazi, Germany had lots of phrases I suppose, they got beat down badly by American Christian war machines in WW2.

  • @steev.homohumanism
    @steev.homohumanism Před 3 lety +56

    Assumed the oldest building found was the first building there was. Way more logical to assume prototypes and primitive buildings did not stand up to the elements for epochs.
    Assumed the earliest writings founds were the earliest writings that occurred. Way more rational to think that other writing methods of basic pigments, clay, carvings etc did not survive the elements, waters and wildfires. The things that the same primitive shelters probably couldn't protect them from.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety

      @Me Smith Those are dated off faulty carbon dating.

    • @mikeaskme3530
      @mikeaskme3530 Před 3 lety +4

      @wiggmortem and we have not even spoken about how Gobelki even survived, it was buried so people could not use the material to build other buildings. Gobelki was just lucky that it was buried, i suspect if it was not buried it would have gone the way other structures went, using the material to build later buildings.

    • @dhwyll
      @dhwyll Před 3 lety +7

      I should point out: The Twin Towers were once the tallest buildings in the world. They're gone now. Does that mean they never existed?
      The oldest building simply means it's the oldest one that still exists.

    • @linnymaemullins3319
      @linnymaemullins3319 Před 3 lety

      Yep😍

    • @jamesonrosen1773
      @jamesonrosen1773 Před 2 lety +2

      I made a birdhouse 20 years ago. It no longer exists. Its not a hard concept to comprehend but there are many defence mechanisms at work here.

  • @Pumpkin_Lich
    @Pumpkin_Lich Před 3 lety +9

    He's clearly conflating "oldest" man made structures with being the first made structures.

  • @nzrbroadcasting1421
    @nzrbroadcasting1421 Před 3 lety +11

    "Do you think it really took us that long to build structures or start writing?" I think it took us a long time to get to a point where we weren't constantly trying to survive and had enough free time to build "fancier" buildings and create written languages and artwork.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Right, so were we being chased by bears, lions and wolves for 190,000 years? Do you realize that even the dumbest human can create a spear out of tree branch and can outsmart and kill a lion or bear. Humans were likely everywhere in tribes. Food and land were more plentiful everywhere as well.

    • @nzrbroadcasting1421
      @nzrbroadcasting1421 Před 3 lety +3

      @@rs72098 no we were trying to find food water and not freeze to death for that long. Fancy houses and writing aren't needed for that. A cave with a fire will do.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety

      @@nzrbroadcasting1421 Freeze to death? In Africa, Australia, Latin America and the middle east? What planet are you talking about?

    • @nzrbroadcasting1421
      @nzrbroadcasting1421 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rs72098 wow you actually think the worlds climate was the same back then as it is today? And i suppose you never heard of an ice age. During an ice age the entire planet is stuck in a constant state of winter. Not just the regions that are cold now.

    • @nzrbroadcasting1421
      @nzrbroadcasting1421 Před 3 lety +2

      @@rs72098 also noticed how you conveniently glossed over the food and water part. No wait let me guess. You think supermarkets were a thing back then as well right?

  • @-the_wandering_eremite-
    @-the_wandering_eremite- Před 3 lety +15

    I think RJ should Google the “Dunning-Kruger effect” and attempt to develop some of that humility his faith talks about.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 Před 2 měsíci +2

    "I added up all the people on a calculator and its way more than 8 billion in 2000 years."
    He multiplied every generation by double, as in, every 2 parents have 4 kids one time and nobody ever dies. 😂😂😂

  • @savantus1
    @savantus1 Před 3 lety +7

    Young Earher " I was told/read about some stuff and believed it so much so that I disagree with science because it contradicts what I want to believe."

  • @zwc76
    @zwc76 Před 3 lety +9

    This is the prime example of why good education is the potential cure for religion.

    • @guytheincognito4186
      @guytheincognito4186 Před 3 lety +3

      @MTB-Fritz
      It's usually not. Indoctrination is a powerful thing and a high education won't necessarily throw it off without appropriate exposure to new ideas, Scepticism and atheist discussion etc.

    • @zwc76
      @zwc76 Před 3 lety +1

      @MTB-Fritz But to a much, much lesser degree. If you're educated, you're making money out of your "belief". If you're uneducated, you're paying money for your belief.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před rokem

      Education and indoctrination are 2 different things. Being highly skeptical of evolution doesn't imply that someone is uneducated.

    • @zwc76
      @zwc76 Před rokem

      @@rs72098 Applying things like being "skeptical" doesn't really work on things like gravity, earth not being flat and evolution. That's called ignorant.

  • @terranhealer
    @terranhealer Před 3 lety

    Sweet ❤️ Love Vi & Dr. Ray 😍🤩

  • @frogstamper
    @frogstamper Před 3 lety +11

    It's amazing that with so many resources available, a person can believe that the Earth is under ten thousand years old.

    • @danhemming6624
      @danhemming6624 Před 3 lety +3

      Its when your view is so blinkered nothing else makes sense.

  • @DerVagabundli
    @DerVagabundli Před 3 lety +10

    Dunning & Kruger going strong here

  • @savagesalvage9449
    @savagesalvage9449 Před 3 lety +5

    Lol this Dr. Darrel completely checked out towards the end of this call. I don't blame him; this was painful. Lmao, just heard him say Matt hung up on him, YoU DoNt SaY.

  • @danielross334
    @danielross334 Před 3 lety +5

    Human progress occurred when we threw off the influence of clerics and started investigating science! The enlightenment is 300 years old, but biblical literalists are still living in the medieval period.

  • @T_WILL77
    @T_WILL77 Před 3 lety +36

    I made it through this video......almost gave up......This level of ignorance doesn't even surprise me anymore

    • @rojh9351
      @rojh9351 Před 3 lety +5

      You’ve done better than me. 2 minutes in and I’m losing the will to live.

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 Před 3 lety +7

      One thing is ignorance.... it is the f***ing arrogance that gets me.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Believing that humans have been around for 400,000 years with a population of 7.5 billion, doubling on average every 12,000 years is *Absolute Ignorance.* You lefties probably also believe men can become women. You are the anti-science crowd, not creationists.

    • @T_WILL77
      @T_WILL77 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rs72098 And you believing that the earth was created I'm 6 days by some magical being, the light was there before the sun, a man was made from clay, and woman from his rib, had 2 sons and used incest (I'm assuming since there is no other logical explanation) to populate the earth, have it destroyed and flooded by this same being, leaving a family of 8 to incest the population back into existence, with only a pair of each animal on this planet that also have to incest their populations back into existence, to come all the way to a virgin to be impregnated by a "spirit" to have a savior who cannot be proven even existed but he died for your "sins" and somehow resurrected to witnesses and someday he's coming back, is the truth? I skipped a lot but the gist of it is there. If you want to trash science, you can pretty much throw out your whole life worth of possessions including the device that you used to type that response. You know, since you don't believe on science and all. Fuck outta here. Keep your faith and holy books. We'll keep our logic and reasoning

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 2 lety

      @@T_WILL77 Typical atheist response, all I read was "yip, yap I'm an atheist and blah blah blah, we're smarter than you even though we believe rocks came to life, and the universe exploded from nothing with no divine intelligent intervention whatsoever." My phone was designed with mathmatics and science, and a creator, not by evolution theory. According to evolution theory my phone could've just randomly been formed over billions of years by random metals and plastics crashing into eachother.

  • @antitheist3206
    @antitheist3206 Před 3 lety +39

    Fun fact:
    Even at our peak, the growth rate for humanity was less than 2%, and we've tapered off since then.
    We don't double up every generation, we don't even double every FIFTY generations.

    • @waxberry4
      @waxberry4 Před 3 lety +11

      Human population remained roughly unchanged for thousands of years but in the recent past century has more than doubled. Only the most uneducated people would think population growth has been at a steady rate.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +5

      Fact: The world population has doubled in the past 60 years.

    • @waxberry4
      @waxberry4 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rs72098 Thanks. I corrected my reply accordingly.

    • @enhaxed7839
      @enhaxed7839 Před 3 lety

      @@waxberry4 Last I checked the population is doubling every thirty years or less.

  • @rocky-iv1446
    @rocky-iv1446 Před 2 lety +19

    US Navy Shipbuilders estimate that Noah would need a "Fleet of Arc's" the size and strength of US Air Craft Carriers in order to even fathom the task.

    • @koki84ji7
      @koki84ji7 Před rokem +4

      But God magic can't be explained by science obviously

    • @jasons8479
      @jasons8479 Před rokem +2

      Arks

    • @EGOS42
      @EGOS42 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Just imagine the 350,000 pairs of beetles that somehow managed not to get eaten or squished.

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 Před 2 měsíci

      Evangelista Torricelli,whose parents at least were evidently quite Christian, proved that the weight of the entire atmosphere was less than the weight of one metre of mercury over the whole surface. This means that a global flood more than 40 feet deep couldn't happen if the entire atmosphere was water vapour.

  • @radar536
    @radar536 Před 3 lety +1

    i admire Vi lot!

  • @justanotherdayinthelife9841

    I enjoy the respect between both parties.

  • @michaelrobinson8464
    @michaelrobinson8464 Před 3 lety +7

    That tone in Vi’s voice when this numpty says “carbon dating has a lot of flaws” and she responds with “oh nooo...”

  • @chris424cm
    @chris424cm Před 3 lety +5

    I always know if someone use the "If you times it" instead of mutiply it by that they probably never took any type of college courses. And that they dont really know what they are talking about at which point I don't take them seriously. Case in point RJ from Colorado

  • @waynejohnstone3685
    @waynejohnstone3685 Před 27 dny

    I like this Darrel Ray guy.

  • @honesty1234
    @honesty1234 Před 3 lety +2

    I feel ya Darrell and Vi.

  • @torparnorpan8362
    @torparnorpan8362 Před 3 lety +23

    Wow....😳This guy has totally dug his head beneath the sand and goes "lalalallalalalallalalalalalalalalalalala" when actual facts and logic is being used. Unbelievable🤣🤣🤣

    • @MrNateSPF
      @MrNateSPF Před 3 lety +2

      "Do you think all the experts in the field are mistaken and whatever you guess is somehow better"
      "Exactly! You're finally getting it..."

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 2 lety

      That's pretty much the other way around. When demographic math is mentioned atheists want to pretend it doesn't exist and try to come up with reasons as to why the human race population would remain stagnant for over 300,000 years.

    • @Julian0101
      @Julian0101 Před 2 lety

      @@rs72098 Too bad math dont help creatards to the point your proponents have to lie about how they got the results.
      Of course, that is pretending things like sickness, famine and wars didnt exist, which is totally how reality works.

  • @emperorsgrandads
    @emperorsgrandads Před 3 lety +9

    Definitely not the sharpest tool in the box

  • @Fernando-ek8jp
    @Fernando-ek8jp Před rokem +2

    Wow, the mental dishonesty: "Yes, I can accept with no question the dates that agree with me. Those other ones though?"

  • @arthurhunt642
    @arthurhunt642 Před rokem

    One of my favorite videos is called "Science Saved my Soul".

  • @KerryFreemanMelbourne
    @KerryFreemanMelbourne Před 3 lety +3

    There you go...we have all learnt something.

  • @miskatonicalumni5612
    @miskatonicalumni5612 Před 3 lety +7

    When RJ talks about snail shells being carbon dated to 12k years makes me thing of Potholer54 when he says "oi Hovind! You can't carbon date that, theres no fking carbon in it!"

  • @PhillyEaglesFanatic
    @PhillyEaglesFanatic Před 5 měsíci

    Lmao at Dr. Ray's yawn at the beginning 😆

  • @johnhiggs325
    @johnhiggs325 Před 3 lety +7

    Dunning Krueger is strong in this one!

  • @lacielesueur1167
    @lacielesueur1167 Před 3 lety +10

    At least he acknowledged that humans are mammals. He got one tiny thing right.

    • @stevepierce6467
      @stevepierce6467 Před rokem +1

      I used to have high school students who openly denied that humans are animals.

    • @tiedeman39
      @tiedeman39 Před rokem +1

      ​@@stevepierce6467I've seen people say humans are mammals, but not animals

    • @stevepierce6467
      @stevepierce6467 Před rokem +1

      @@tiedeman39 And aren't mammals animals?

  • @pfeilspitze
    @pfeilspitze Před 3 lety +4

    22:17 "My doctoral dissertation was actually on population issues" 🤣

  • @torontocitizen6802
    @torontocitizen6802 Před rokem +2

    The caller is a magnificent example of the Dunning-Kruger phenomenon.

  • @user-pn4py6vr4n
    @user-pn4py6vr4n Před 2 lety +1

    Dunning-Kruger Effect, hard at work.

  • @Lara-hy9ff
    @Lara-hy9ff Před 2 lety +4

    Did any of the people in his calculations die or are some of them still alive from the time of the flood?

  • @benderisgreat5059
    @benderisgreat5059 Před 3 lety +3

    I got unbelievably happy when she mentioned Viced Rhino. I love that guy so so much. He totally deserves more subscribers.

  • @gabecoolwater4497
    @gabecoolwater4497 Před rokem +2

    Wow... Just wow... This is so bad... My forehead is red from all the facepalms... "Go back to school" is right!!! Thank you, Dr. Darrel!!!

  • @robertmcadams832
    @robertmcadams832 Před 25 dny

    This guy's a genius. He should be in charge of people.

  • @shanehisle1294
    @shanehisle1294 Před 3 lety +5

    "What are the other options" is a shifting of the burden of proof.

  • @miskatonicalumni5612
    @miskatonicalumni5612 Před 3 lety +6

    Fun fact: Viced Rhino is an anagram for Eric Hovind. 🤫 Don't tell the Rhino you know.

  • @shanehisle1294
    @shanehisle1294 Před 3 lety +2

    Argument from authority is also appealing to an authority and asserting theyre right because they're an authority.

    • @Detson404
      @Detson404 Před 3 lety

      That’s a tough problem to overcome. We can’t each replicate the whole scientific corpus so we have to accept the findings of authorities at least provisionally.

    • @shanehisle1294
      @shanehisle1294 Před 3 lety

      @@Detson404 saying they're right because they're an authority isn't the same as they're right or most likely right because their work shows them to be right or mostlikely right through positive peer review.

  • @NK-po6ki
    @NK-po6ki Před měsícem +1

    Wow, a real genius.

  • @chiangchengkooi9791
    @chiangchengkooi9791 Před 3 lety +4

    Other than carbon dating, ice core in Antarctic give an insight on ancient co2 in the atmosphere.

  • @grantwing4942
    @grantwing4942 Před 3 lety +11

    What about cave paintings dating 60,000 plus years?

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      Those were dated off of carbon dating which is faulty.

    • @Cynthorrpg1
      @Cynthorrpg1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@rs72098 Wrong. You young earthers always go to carbon dating being faulty (which is only in certain circumstances invovving certain materials and certain date ranges) but it is only one of many methods used to date something and depends on what you are trying to determine the age of as to which method is the most accurate. A direct quote from Planet Earth: "Dating cave paintings can prove extremely difficult. Radiocarbon dating can be destructive to the artwork and can only be used to date carbon-containing pigment-usually charcoal. ... In the lab, they estimated the age of the paintings based on uranium isotopes in the samples". Please do not make false claims. You seem to do so in most of your many posts. Here are just a few methods used in science to find the age of something:
      Relative dating. ...
      Stratigraphy. ...
      Seriation. ...
      Faunal dating. ...
      Pollen dating (palynology) ...
      Absolute dating. ...
      Amino acid racimization. ...
      Cation-ratio dating.

    • @BenYork-UBY
      @BenYork-UBY Před 3 lety

      Also why didn't the flood wash off those cave paintings?

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BenYork-UBY Because carbon dating is off, they likely were painted after the flood. Go and get a painting you made carbon dated and see how close they get.

    • @vooveks
      @vooveks Před 3 lety +1

      @@rs72098 Show us the peer-reviewed scientific consensus that carbon dating is ‘faulty’ and what would you use to replace it as a method of determining the age of things?

  • @Calixxtus
    @Calixxtus Před 10 měsíci +1

    "R.J., have you ever read this book...?"
    If there ever was an unnecessary question...

  • @markklippenberg7364
    @markklippenberg7364 Před rokem +1

    “Times it by two”. Definite math genius.

  • @DefaOmega
    @DefaOmega Před rokem +3

    I'm not Professor, but presumably the oldest 'man-made structures' were made of easily destroyed materials. Wood, for example, doesn't last that long in my experience.

    • @Nocturnalux
      @Nocturnalux Před rokem +1

      Exactly. And probably smaller, too. I can’t imagine human beings started out building massive structures, they were surely on the level of huts, at best.
      Wood and mud, too, were likely building materials.

  • @jewsco
    @jewsco Před 2 lety +3

    Wow RJ didn’t even consider that those older man made structures might have not survived or maybe just maybe man used them to make their structures that did survive as the Sphinx is believed to be nowadays as it’s base seems much older than the rest of it

  • @enricopajaro4046
    @enricopajaro4046 Před rokem +1

    I'm actually glad that I NEVER in my life had to bend over backwards to convince anyone of anything and make myself look like a fool. Keeping an open mind has always been my way. How do these people not feel utterly ashamed by the bullshit they're saying is beyond me

  • @gerardomartinez7642
    @gerardomartinez7642 Před 3 lety +1

    Vi: "Oh no 🤦🏻‍♂️"
    😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣

  • @TheDahaka1
    @TheDahaka1 Před 3 lety +11

    "It's just common sense that I'm the only one to understand this" XD

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 2 lety

      I don't recall him saying he was "the only one". There are plenty of other people who understand this.

    • @TheDahaka1
      @TheDahaka1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rs72098 Obviously my statement was about the "common sense" part. If only you and a handful of people in the world interpret reality in a certain way, contrary to science, it's extremely idiotic to call it "common sense".
      It's like saying: "I use common sense to determin that the Earth is flat". No, you're using your limited perspective, ignoring thousands of years of evidence and thinking that the whole scientific community is hiding the truth to believe this absurdity. It's not common sense, it's idiotic sense.

  • @ThePilbaraPrince
    @ThePilbaraPrince Před 2 lety +7

    RJ is dreaming about his Nobel Prize.🙄

  • @adithyarajchoorikat9904

    15:27 the best line😂😂😂

  • @adamcroft80
    @adamcroft80 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Let’s all forget about all the tens of thousands of scientists over the last several hundred years who have worked extensively in the fields of biology. RJ is here and has unfounded claims about how the population of humans has double every 30 years over the last five thousand years.

  • @paulmelville2126
    @paulmelville2126 Před 3 lety +6

    Ricky Gervais wisely said “being dead is like being stupid, you don’t know about it and it’s only painful for others.” RJ was extremely painful listening.

  • @CShivery
    @CShivery Před 3 lety +23

    Carbon dating doesn't determine the age of living animals.

    • @AvNotasian
      @AvNotasian Před 3 lety +5

      It actually has to do with them dating the shell of an aquatic animal, the carbon in the ocean is isolated from the source of carbon14 in the upper atmosphere as a result the amount of C14 is much much lower.
      Which was the point of the paper, they didn't show carbon dating didn't work they showed that standard assumptions for C14 reservoir are not valid if the sample acquired large amounts of carbon from aquatic food sources.
      Its one of those cherry picked quote mines out of context creationists love.

    • @CShivery
      @CShivery Před 3 lety +4

      @@AvNotasian nice. Thanks for the info. I'll look it up. Always fascinated by science. Cheers!

  • @JohnnyAce415
    @JohnnyAce415 Před rokem

    🤦Man.. .RJ is on a roll.

  • @userbasba
    @userbasba Před rokem

    I like Viced Rhino's channel.

  • @gregwalker4236
    @gregwalker4236 Před 3 lety +3

    so rj, aka rip van winkel, wakes up (having never attended grammar school) and gives us his take. thanks for sharing!

  • @matthewjohnson3656
    @matthewjohnson3656 Před 3 lety +23

    I’m do glad she brought up viced rhino. I love his channel. Also the argument from authority is that “something is true simply by virtue of that person being an authority”. Referring to an authority figure is not this fallacy if that authority has the data to back up their statement . Small semantic differences

    • @pastorpeteonthestreet3112
      @pastorpeteonthestreet3112 Před 3 lety

      Indeed there IS a God and you will kneel before Him on Judgment Day. You need to fear God if you do not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

    • @matthewjohnson3656
      @matthewjohnson3656 Před 3 lety +5

      @@pastorpeteonthestreet3112 I will fear him once you prove he exists.

    • @elminster298
      @elminster298 Před 3 lety +3

      @matthew johnson you are correct. The fallacy she named was the argument from FALSE authority. It was a simple misspeak on her part but insignificant in her overall point.

    • @guytheincognito4186
      @guytheincognito4186 Před 3 lety +2

      @@pastorpeteonthestreet3112
      You contradict your own teachings..
      Is God good! If so there's nothing to fear.
      Is Jesus forgivness a gift! If so then there's nothing to fear. Gifts per definition are given "freely" so if it's a gift i don't have any responsebility or even need to have to accept it.
      So unless you tell me you theists got it all wrong we don't have anything to talk about.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety

      Darwin had no scientific degree, was racist, and you atheists follow him like sheep. 🤣 THAT'S AN ARGUMENT FROM AUTHORITY.

  • @MontyVierra
    @MontyVierra Před 3 lety

    Finally, I'd subscribe, but every time I sign in, I get bombarded by ads. This program has been interrupted five times, three in the last five minutes, as the advertisers try to figure out what I'll fall for. The best fun on these websites is the christian ads that support Talk Heathen and the Atheist Experience. I heard that Matt was told that saying OMG! meant he believed in god, so I guess the support by christians of these programs means they don't! [Non sequitar, I know. How many fallacies am I up to now?]

  • @DianavanderPluijm
    @DianavanderPluijm Před 3 lety +1

    There's a lot of flaws... Yes, yes there are, in RJ's reasoning and his 'understanding' of things. So, congratulations to RJ for accurately describing his own reasoning!

  • @glenhill9884
    @glenhill9884 Před 3 lety +16

    "if you look at the oldest tree, man-made structures, and the human demographic, all of them point to a young Earth vs a... evolutionist view"
    Uh, no.
    First of all, drop the term "evolutionist".
    Second, if you want to say evolutionary view, it can't be determined by manmade structures. Evolution is not concerned with things man has built.

  • @sharonsmith1203
    @sharonsmith1203 Před 3 lety +11

    I love how he got to repopulate the earth in six thousand years and yet didn't account for why there are so many different races and genetically different people.

    • @rs72098
      @rs72098 Před 3 lety +1

      A black mother and white father can produce several different races of children, especially if the mother was bi-racial. That argument means nothing.

    • @sharonsmith1203
      @sharonsmith1203 Před 3 lety +3

      @@rs72098 you are not understanding moron. If they were all white people with no genetic history other than their whiteness, then how in over six thousand years who you get all the diversity that's all over the world?
      The point was, there's nobody of different color or nationality.

    • @francelaferriere6106
      @francelaferriere6106 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rs72098 But where would they come from if everyone left after the flood were in fact not black? Because they weren't, you know...according to the Buybull, that is. Unless I missed something.
      And also, the fact that some of these people were siblings and were actually not bothered with being siblings and having sex together to repopulate the earth.

  • @pipkin5287
    @pipkin5287 Před 2 lety +1

    "The Norse believe stone dwarves farted us into existence" that's a new one. And while it made me chuckle, I encourage you to look a little bit more into Asetro of you're going to use it :)

    • @davidlee4903
      @davidlee4903 Před 2 lety +1

      Why? Playfully describing nonsensical beliefs is good necessary fun. We must ridicule ridiculous things.

    • @pipkin5287
      @pipkin5287 Před 2 lety

      @@davidlee4903 I agree, but I also find a difference between ridicule and inaccuracy.

  • @juliox.1829
    @juliox.1829 Před 3 lety

    I love this hahaha.
    But telling somebody to go back to school neeever works. Haha