5 Tips for the Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb Amp
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2024
- It's time to get the MOST out of your Tone Master Amp! In this video, Lukas has 5 tips (plus a bonus one) for you, demonstrated with his Fender TM Deluxe Reverb. Please let us know in the comments which one is your favorite tip and if you have any other tips, hacks, workarounds etc!
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Link Fender Support Website (Firmware Updates Deluxe Reverb)
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Gear used:
Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb in Blonde
Fender American Professional II Telecaster Deluxe in Dark Night
Mooer Micro ABY MK2
Boss SUPER Chorus CH-1
Boss Delay DM-2w Waza
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:13 Tip #1 Headphones
01:55 Tip #2 Backing tracks / Loops
04:15 Tip #3 Channel Switching (ABY)
07:50 Tip #4 Firmware Versions (how to update)
09:49 Tip #5 Different IRs
11:11 Wrap Up
11:52 Bonus Tip - Crank it!
All of the products we've shown in the video have been purchased with our own money and we're not affiliated with any of these companies. - Hudba
One of the better Tonemaster videos I've seen on CZcams, and I'm pretty sure I've seen over 50 of them now.
Thanks so much for the kind words, Mathew! I'm glad you enjoyed my tips video. Cheers, Lukas
Yes great work!
Thanks John!
Lukas, I wanted to update you after my 1st comment (Just Below). I've had my Blonde Tone Master for about 2 weeks now. All I can say is "WOW", I thought it was going to be a decent amp for sure. Never did I expect it to "Blow Me Away" the way it has. Playing Clean or with one of my Pedal Boards is a pleasure. I've played (many) of my guitars through it and I've yet to be disappointed. I feel bad for my 65 Deluxe Reverb (Tube) or my PRS 50 Amp (tube) because I haven't turned them on since I got the Blonde. Obviously, there's nothing wrong (at all) with my 65 or the PRS, I've just being having so much fun with the Tone Master. Once again, thank you so much for your 5 Tips video it's very well done and very informative. I'm turning 77 years old soon and have been doing this for a long time. Even though I'm basically a Blues guy, it's obvious that this amp can handle a (Lot) of genres quite well, Thanks again my friend...
Hi Roland. Thank you so much for the update. I'm really glad you are enjoying your Tone Master and also that my video benefited you! Your feedback is much appreciated! Lots of joy with your new amp! Cheers my friend!
Thank you for getting specific on the software update capabilities...and thank you for posting Sir!
Thanks for the comment, Michael! I'm glad the infos helped you! Cheers, Lukas
Great demo and tips! Thanks!!
Thanks a lot! Cheers Lukas
This is a really "Great" video my friend. Thank you for all of your time and effort in the making of it. I play, normally, with my Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb (Tube) Amp but I'm considering getting the same Fender Tone Master that you have. Your tips were explained very well and answered some of the questions I had about it. After seeing this video I'm going to order it. I subscribed to your channel and will be back, I'm sure, many times.
Thank you so much for the kind words, your comment and your sub, Roland! See you around. Cheers, Lukas
Nice Video very useful tips thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked it. Cheers Lukas
Some good thoughts. Thanks
Glad you like it! Thanks for commenting. Cheers, Lukas
great video mate, thanks so much
You're very welcome, thank for watching and your feedback! Cheers, Lukas
Very interesting video!!
Thanks Andrea! I hope it inspires and helps some owners of the Tone Masters! Cheers, Lukas
Really great video! Really good information..
Thank you very much, Frank! I appreciate the kind words. Cheers, Lukas
That seems like a nice amp! Great video😎👍
Thanks a lot Aaro, glad you liked it! I'm really happy with the amp! Cheers, Lukas
Great video!
Thanks Andrew, glad you liked it. Cheers
Thanks for helpful video
You're welcome! I'm glad it helped you. Cheers, Lukas
Great video. Thx much.
Thanks a lot Jim, glad you liked it. Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner hey what guitar rack did u go with in the back there ?
The one with rolls is for Nitro finishes: www.thomann.de/at/km_17534_guardian_31_translucent.htm
The other one that looks like a tweed Case (the are different models for a different number of guitars):
www.gear4music.at/de/Gitarre-and-Bass/Rack-Case-von-Gear4music-fur-6-Gitarren-Tweed/1S09?origin=product-ads&gclid=CjwKCAjw77WVBhBuEiwAJ-YoJMN37RT2Q6xu9THH9kit-BHb5K61x9BxgLxrre6LOhadifj3WPWIDxoCvWQQAvD_BwE
Btw, Fender has a similar tweed case/rack which costs twice as much
Cheers, Lukas
I just ordered the twin!!
Awesome! Lots of fun with it. Will you use it for gigging as well or just at home? Cheers, Lukas
You can use an adapter on the balanced out to use headphones directly. Works without problems.
Thanks for that, great tip! Cheers
So, looks like firmware changes are reversible. I've been avoiding changes, as for my purposes, my stock TMDR black sounds perfect, but could possibly tweak the reverb response, and the IR could be better.
Just want to be sure NOT to lose the bright cap sound!! I happen to love tones WITH the bright sound, as I use my neck pickup and the bright tone to get the tones I want/need.
Hey Kevin. Yep it's reversible so you could try the different firmware versions to find the one you like best. Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Thanks Lukas!! Actually, I'm Kevin. Jill and I have a CZcams channel, so it puts Jill's (my wife & awesome singer) name every time.
Top 👍🙏
Thank you! Cheers
Great video, thanks! I have the blonde Tonemaster DR and I love it. I have the Radial Big Shot ABY and am going to try your trick!
Thanks a lot for your comment, I'm glad to hear that my video helped! Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner It did! You mentioned more than one thing I never thought of... then again, I'm old and usually just plug and play.
Thanks so much for the kind words, comments like this make me happy :)
I have a Twin Reverb Tonemaster Blonde and yeah, it can get really loud, really quickly once you flip the attenuation control from one setting to the next. I wouldn't recommend jumping more than two without testing. That being said, I think it sounds great with or without pedals.
Thanks for sharing! Out of curiosity, do you use input 2 a lot on the channels? And which channel do you use for pedals? Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Hi! I use input two for the Guitar with hotter pickups. My Strat, Telly and Gretsch I'll play through input 1 but my Les Paul (and sometimes Gretsch), is through input 2. I found there is a bit of a difference in gain between input 1 and input 2. If I want to play with a lot of gain on the Les Paul, I'll use input 1 and dial back the volume on the amp. Effects wise, I use them with all guitars on both inputs. I have a Boss DD-8, JHS 3 Chorus, PackRat, Bonsai, Bender and Smiley fuzz. Both channels seem to sound good to me with effects.
@@STVG71 Hey, thanks a lot for responding. I think it's great that the amp offers many possibilities.
I usually run my pedalboard into the normal channel and use input 1 on either channel. If the guitar has humbuckers, I sometimes switch to input 2 for a less overdriven tone. Cheers, Lukas
No interface needed for headphones. A $10 xlr to 1/4' cable and it drives headphones perfectly.
Cool, thanks for sharing. Cheers Lukas
For loud my fender champion 100 setting setting are as follows
Channel 1 vol,treb,bass,efx all at 0 so a mute . Channel 2 set to the Jazz (I’d assume it’s a Roland JC120 clone but I know what assuming gets ya) gain 3(or just when it starts to effect the tone) volume 5 treble 0-2 mid 7-9 bass 0-2 range depending on the room.
Dirt all comes from my pedals.
Once I get the Super Twin Reverb running I’ll let you know how I set it up… don’t hold ya breath it’s gonna be a while.
But no Tone Master Amp incoming for you? Cheers Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner no not that I’m aware of.. Fender !!! Are you listening????
@@PooNinja 😂
Great video, how do you connect the focusrite to the tone master? In other words, how do you power the focusrite?
Thanks Daniel! The Tone Master is connected with a XLR cable to the Focusrite, which is directly hooked up to my laptop via USB. Cheers, Lukas
Thanks for this. I have the Blonde and I'm tempted to try the Black firmware, with the bright cap on. Did you try it? How did you like it?
Hey Tago. Thanks for the comment. No I haven't tried a Black firmware yet. Since you can always go back to the original Blonde firmware, why not give it a go? Curious how big the difference is - please let me know if you try it! Cheers, Lukas
That piece that you are pushing into the hole in the amp is called a plug. The hole that you are pushing it into is called the jack. Actually it is vibrato, not tremolo. The foot switch controls vibrato, not tremolo.
Actually, it is tremolo and was misnamed by Leo Fender who confused vibrato and tremolo. Vibrato affects pitch, tremolo affects volume. He also misnamed the vibrato bar on the Strat too. He called it the tremolo bar but working it affects pitch, not volume. So that should have been called a vibrato, not a tremolo.
Has anyone tried the Blond firmware update with the Jensen speaker on the Black model?
Great video! If I understood correctly, even without an fx loop we can use a looper pedal? I was kinda worried that it wasn’t possible! What I am asking is if it will be possible to record a clean rhythm in the vibrato channel and then switch to the normal channel where I have a lead sound with some pedals? Thanks
Hi there! Don't confuse an FX loop with a looper - you can use a looper pedal with any kind of amp and just run it through the regular input. There is no need for an FX loop, but it makes certain things easier. In case of the Deluxe Reverb, you can record a loop with your looper pedal and play it through the vibrato channel and then plug your guitar into the normal channel with pedals etc. This works perfectly fine, just as you described it (also, I just tested it 5 minutes ago, just to be 100% sure). Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Hey Lukas, thanks for your answer. So do I need to UNPLUG my guitar in order to switch channels? Doesn’t seem very practical. I would like to be able to record a clean sounding loop while playing live (on the vibrato channel) and then solo over that (on the normal channel with a distortion pedal), without unplugging the guitar. Does this works or must I use an ABY pedal in order to make it work? Sorry I’m kinda noob in this stuff! 😅
@@fmeskita1 Okay, let's start with the obvious: You cannot switch the channels on a Deluxe Reverb via footswitch or toggle switch. To play through one of the channels, you need to plug into that channel. So you don't have to unplug the guitar, but you have to get 2 signal chains - one to the vibrato channel with the looper and one to the normal channel with the pedalboard. Instead of plugging into those different chains manually, you could do so with an ABY pedal. I use the Lehle Little Dual for that. The signal chain would then be "Guitar -- Cable -- ABY Pedal" and from there 1) the signal chain to the vibrato channel with the looper pedal inbetween and 2) the signal chain to the normal channel with the pedal board inbetween. Meaning you are plugged into both channels at the same time and can then switch using the ABY switcher. There is no other or more practical way - if you don't use an ABY pedal you have to unplug something as you cannot switch from normal to vibrato channel any other way than plugging into the channel. All clear now? If so - please leave a sub ;-) Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Got it! Thanks for explaining! Already subscribed!! 😊 Keep up with the good work 👍🏻
Thanks a lot! Cheers
Hello! Great video! Quick question. I have the Focusrite audio card like you. I connected the XLR to the amp, then to the card. Amp is on standby like you said and the Focusrite is on. But it’s not working. Any idea why? Am I doing something wrong? The volume on the balance OUT is at “10”. Anything to suggest?
Hi there. Thanks a lot!
Hmm I can't spot an obvious mistake there. My setup is the same. The Focusrite is usually hooked up to my laptop via USB. Then there's the XLR coming from the Tone Master. The volume is usually rather low, maybe around 4-6. And like I say in the video, you should be able to get a signal when the amp is in standby mode (speaker deactivated, but still on) for silent recording. Did you ever manage to get any signal from the amp to the Focusrite? Maybe it's the cable, maybe the input on the Focusrite you're using is not working? Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner I found my mistake. I had to plug the audio card to my PC and not a power socket :) works like a dream! Thanks buddy
Great that it works now! Cheers buddy
It. Sounds ok i the living room. Put it on Stage with a loud drummer, bass player, keyboard player, 2nd guitarist and singers plus horn section and it won’t even be audible. I’m coming from over 40 years gigging😊 experience.
Are you referring to the maxed out volume? Do you think it is less loud than the tube DR or that the amp is generally not powerful enough? Did you gig or go to band practice with the Tone Master yet? Cheers!
Hi, I am curious about using backing tracks via instrument input by inserting mp3 / notebook output signal. Normally I would say this signal is too strong (line level) for the instrument input.
Maybe I am wrong, but is that ok? Thanks, Peter
If you keep the output level extremely low this should work, as it's done also with other amps. However, the low impedance output will make the amp very noisy, as it expects a high impedance. There are two ways you can solve the issue. There are reamp boxes designed to do just that, get a line signal back to the level and impedance used on pedals and amps. The second option is, you can use a pedal with buffered bypass inbetween. This would also get the impedance back up to what the amp expects. Again you would have to be careful with the level. But you would have to use it at your own risk obviously.
Cheers,
Martin
@@LMGuitarCorner Great, thanks for the reply. All the best!
@@peterracz-works9139 You're welcome! All the best to you too!
Cheers,
Martin
I had a 65. Had to use the normal channel with my pedalboard because no bright cap. The 68 deluxe reissue does not have the bright cap
Nothing with the normal channel, in my opinion - unless you can't live without reverb of course 😉
What bluetooth device was that? I didn't hear or see the brand or what it is. Looks like a great idea to use for backing tracks
Hey Joe, just had to look it up because Amazon changed the product page (it has a different brand now, but I have the same model) - here's the link: www.amazon.de/dp/B08SH81N4T/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_3PCS6ADJVKD0AKQW5AHS_2
Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner thanks so much!!
You're welcome! Cheers, Lukas
Sorry Lukas. I have a scarlett solo with audio technica ath m50x headphones. The tone master in to the scarlett sound very thin. What could be the problem? Thank you and congratulations again
@Alberto Boetti Hey there Alberto. Not sure what the problem is, but try the following things: Since you mention a "thin sound" - is it possible that the cabinet sim is off? If so, try selecting 1 or 2 on the back. Also on the back there is a knob for the line out volume, did you try adjusting that? On your scarlett, try to change from "INST" to "LINE" and adjust the gain knob. Last but not least, try different headphones with the Scarlett. Please let me know if any of those tips helped! Cheers, Lukas
Thank you dear Lukas. You are very kind. I'll let you know
I Lukas. I have tried everything. If I listen from the PC/reaper monitoring I have a good sound. If I listen from the audio interface direct monitoring it seems to lack power and sound definition. Thanks
Thanks for the update, Alberto. Sorry to hear that nothing worked :-/
Hey man, can you help me figure out if there's something wrong with my Tone Master Deluxe Blonde? You have a humbucker guitar and a Focusrite interface, so you're the best possible person to ask. (I also don't have access to any other copies of the amp to A/B them lol)
CZcams won't let me post links but please have a listen to 16SOk0MltrrF on Vocaroo. My settings are input 2 on the vibrato channel, bridge humbucker. Tone and volume on guitar at 10. On the amp: volume 10, treble 5, bass 5, reverb 3. XLR out straight into the Focusrite, with the switch on the back set to position 1 (SM-57).
In the clip I'm playing the 12th fret on both the B and G strings. You can hear this buzzing sound that kind of fades out along with the notes but is a set of different frequencies. This amp's entire overdrive sound tbh sounds buzzy and nasty and fizzy, stark contrast from the glorious demos I've seen on CZcams.
Can you please please please replicate my settings with your bridge humbucker and check if you get the same sound? Posting/sending me the clip would be even better. It would help me know that my amp is or isn't broken lol. I've liked and subscribed btw. 🙏🙏🙏
Hey there. Listened to your clip. I'll record one as well and leave another comment, if not today, tomorrow by the latest. Cheers, Lukas
@Stefan Nita You will be happy to hear that it sounds the same with my amp and therefore is most likely not an issue with your amp. I've recorded a 15 sec clip for you to verify. Vol and Tone on Guitar on 10, Vibrato channel input 2, vol 10, bass and treble on 5. Heres the link: voca(dot)ro/1ibF1YD2YZJe
What helps is recuding the bass to maybe 3 and increase the treble, this should overall sound more pleasing. Btw, I've seen in several forum posts that the tube Deluxe Reverb also is too bassy when the volume is turned up and most people compensate for this by reducing the bass. Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner got it, so I guess I just have to fiddle some more with the amp and with pedals. Thanks a lot for taking the time to do this when you didn't have to :) helped my peace of mind a lot, cheers brother!
You're very welcome buddy. Hope to see you around ;)
for $1000 amp, it is less than impressive to me. I've tried every setting in the book and it is just ok.
Hey there. How do backing tracks sound through the amp? Do you have to tweak the EQ? Thanks :)
Hey Marcio! They sound okay through the amp. The speaker is designed for guitar tones primarily, which is noticeable ;)
Regarding the EQ: it might be necessary to adjust it on the channel (treble / bass), depending on the song, but I don't adjust the EQ on the phone. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Cheers, Lukas
You know if you take your guitar seriously you don't want to mix it with other signals. Affects speaker dynamics having to play different things. Play along to a stereo or whatever, but keep signals separate.
@The Puppy Channel I agree. For practicing it works, but still not the perfect solution admittedly. Currently I use the Spark 40 for backing tracks, which is far better. Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Thanks for the reply. I did try it and just like you said, it was ok. At best. I also use a Spark 40 for backing tracks and thought maybe I could do without it, but I don't think so.
Awesome video still though. It'll be helpful to a lot of people.
Cheers
@@TurboMountTV Agreed
Hi Lukas, great demo. I have one question for around 13:12, there is a humming/buzzing noise in the background. I have the same thing on mine and I notice when I have a pedalboard in front of the amp, that background noise gets amplified. Do you have any suggestions on how to eliminate that? What volume/wattage would you recommend at bedroom level to get a clean sound with headroom for pedals?
Hi there! Thanks a lot for the kind words! I just checked the timestamp. I think the noise comes from cranking the volume on the amp. With higher gain you always get some amount of humming/buzzing, which is normal for guitar amps. It is also what tube amps do - and since the Tone Master is modeled after a tube amp, I guess it also replicates the hum. I don't think you can eliminate this entirely - when you use overdrive/distortion pedals you also get a lot of noise. Try reducing the volume on the amp to 3 - that's where it is not breaking up. In terms of wattage - I mostly play on the 0.5 watts setting at home. If you want more headroom, increase it by a couple of notches and reduce the volume of the channel. Also, the vibrato channel breaks up earlier -> try the normal channel, maybe even input 2, in conjunction with a pedalboard. Hope this helps! Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner Really appreciate your time to answer the question. From giving it a quick go, that seems to have sorted it! Thank you
You're very welcome. Hope to see you around!
Hi. I own the black version of the amp. Love it. Reg. the attenuator, I find that the 0,2 watt position does not reflect the true sounds of the amp. It misses the depth and feel of it whereas the other positions sound more equal. Rarely play the full 22watts and surely not in bedroom😆
Hey @Gert Lettorp which attenuator setting do you usually use? Cheers, Lukas
I recently bought mine, at higher volumes and with the attenuator set to 1 it start to hiss kinda like a white noise, is this normal does your unit does the same?
Hi! With a guitar plugged in or not? And which channel? Please send me your exact settings (bass and treble as well), then I can go check. Cheers
@@LMGuitarCorner with or without guitar plugged, Usually on higher wattage on the attenuator like 5w and when I get more volume and treble (bass doesn’t seem to affect the white noise I’m usually at 6/7), In both channels, thank you so much for your answer dude!
Here's a link to a short I just filmed. Hope this helps (uploaded it to my private channel by accident, but it's unlisted anyway). Cheers, Lukas
czcams.com/users/shortsPwjqx2Kjk7s?si=ZG644ERZs_nyICBb
@@LMGuitarCorner Helped a lot!!! I belive this is just the nature of this amp which sound amazing and is so convinient I just wanted to make sure, thanks a lot man!!!! cheers!
You're welcome! Hope to see you around. BTW, we have another cool video about this amp
czcams.com/video/PAufM7TruQQ/video.htmlsi=H-pAZayqxmfesOJ_
Cheers!
Do you notice that increasing the volume on the normal channel when only plugging into the vibrato channel ( and the other way around) adds noise floor/ hiss to the signal?
Hey there. To make sure : Do you mean when there's a cable plugged in each channel (with an ABY pedal) or just one cable in one channel, the other 3 inputs are not used? I can then go check and let you know. Cheers Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner just one cable into one channel. No pedals no switchers just guitar into cable and cable into amp.
@aperezdeal We just tried it. If it's just one cable in one channel it's only very little difference. Noticeable but only if you pay attention to it. However, with the ABY it was a considerable bigger noise floor.
Cheers,
Martin
I just payed 1000.00 for the TM deluxe and it did NOT come with the 50 cent micro usb cable!! WTF??!!!
Hey there. You mean for the firmware updates? You're right, they should have included one. For me personally it was no problem as I have more than enough of them laying around 😉
I cannot update the firmware on my amp, so sad. Tried a zillion times but no good
Sorry to hear that! How far do you get with the updating procedure? Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner I go all the way Mr Lukas, up to the fast blinking part that lasts only about 12 seconds for me, the damned bright cap wont go away. I tried like 7 different USB cables but none seems to handle data properly. Thanks for the reply btw, cheers.
Hmm that's strange. Did you try different USB ports on your computer? Or maybe even a different computer. Hope you'll find a way to update it eventually! Cheers, Lukas
@@LMGuitarCorner yes, done all that, the blasted cap is still here. I'll use the 2nd vibrato channel for th
e time being for clean tones until I figure this bastard out lol
Oh boy... Good luck! Cheers
Bright caps suck for pedals
Hey Darren. Good to know, I've been using the stock firmware of the blonde edition and thus I don't know how pedals sound with the bright cap firmware. Cheers, Lukas
Summing stereo tracks to a.mono 1/4 inch jack is. Not going to sound very good
True, definitely not ideal in terms of sound quality. Cheers!
You missed the most important Tone Master tip...
Put a Fender MTG Tube pedal in front of it.
Gives it that warm room filling tone that tubes give you.
And... if you are going to split the guitar signal you should use a buffered splitter pedal. Else your signal cut in half.
Thanks for your additions. I don't have the Fender MTG Tube pedal so... Yeah :D
Cheers Lukas
Edit: I don't run both channels simultaneously, so nothing is cut in half when I use the ABY pedal.
@@LMGuitarCorner So if you just play "A" or "B" alone the guitar signal isn't weakened?
I don't think so. I use it like an amp switcher basically and haven't noticed a drop in volume/signal compared to when I'm only plugged into one channel. Using both channels at the same time wouldn't work, just like you mentioned. Cheers, Lukas
Further experiences from other people: www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/any-deluxe-reverb-owners-use-both-channels.409890/
I've got the MTG LA tube pedal, and yes it does the trick very well.
@@amelia8612 Thank you Amelia for confirming I'm not the only one who has noticed what this pedal does for the Tone Masters!
I hate to sound like a Fender fan boy... But the next step is the Fender The Bends compressor pedal, if you like using compressors.
If for no other reason it is the most quiet compressor you'll ever find. It's also very smooth and blends well into this combination.
I rented at least a dozen different compressors and none compared to The Bends for quietness. I think it is the nature of compressors to add some hiss. The more you compress the more hiss.
The key is to learn notes at least to the seventh fret, instead of believing an amp will help!
Hi! Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Cheers
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Hey Samira. What does that mean? Can't translate it unfortunately. Cheers
Great video, very interesting, thinking of getting one but might be too loud for home use even with the attenuator.
@ChrisBarnard-vd2fj On the lowest setting, the volume is living room friendly, imho. Cheers!
OK, thanks, I might just go ahead and order one 🙂