Creating the BEST Defensive Tactic in Football Manager 2024

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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
  • Grab a cuppa for a deep dive as Jonny is Creating the BEST Defensive Tactic in Football Manager 2024. We'll start off with some theory and dive into the principles we'll be using, then we'll apply these to a tactic - which you can do for ANY tactic you use in FM24. Then you'll get some tips on how to find out if its working and what to do it its not.
    Longer video than usual but it packs a punch with lots of tips and tricks to get the most out of your tactic in FM24, especially if you need to defend for your lives
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    00:00 INTRO
    00:34 THE AGENDA
    02:05 THE DEFENSIVE PRINCIPLES
    06:40 BUILDING THE TACTIC
    19:38 CREATING A MATCH PLAN
    20:40 THE FINAL TWEAK
    22:16 IN GAME EXAMPLES
    25:40 POST GAME ANALYSIS
    28:05 OUTRO
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Komentáře • 67

  • @TheManagersSeat
    @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +20

    Hopefully this longer form video is enjoyable, a LOT to take in. Importantly, let us know if you get any luck with the tactic or even applying some of the principles.

  • @jamessousa1623
    @jamessousa1623 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Brilliant video, the structure of the video and your explanation of each stage has given me a whole new perspective of FM despite being a 15 year veteran. Keep up the good work!

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks James! Lovely to hear. The beauty of the game is we’re always learning!

  • @Renwick22
    @Renwick22 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Cracking tactic. As a title challenging team always always struggle at City and Liverpool away.
    Used the tactic today for the first time and won 1-0 at City away with only 1 shot to my name

  • @BrokenBaculum
    @BrokenBaculum Před 4 měsíci +5

    Mate, this is incredible. I took over a dodgy Hearts side who were underperfoming and spent the majority of the rest of the season tinkering with formations, player roles and the duties. Fast forward to 15th May, in the "Relegation Group", I implement this, and keep my first clean sheet in 3 months. Unreal. Next game, same again, except we get one shot on target and score from it. You've saved my bacon. Looking forward to getting this locked down during a pre-season with some fresh players!

  • @johndoe2769
    @johndoe2769 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great break down stinger. Never went into player instructions so much. Going to give it a go now. Cheers

  • @jordy786
    @jordy786 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Love these in-depth tactical videos with explaining and examples. Well done boss!

  • @TheBusbyBabes
    @TheBusbyBabes Před 7 měsíci +1

    thank you so much. as someone who knows how to set up is team for attack but always struggles with defense this really helped me a lot

  • @madsrasmussen8421
    @madsrasmussen8421 Před 53 minutami

    Great defensive vid mate. Would you also give an anchor the ease off tackles PI? Compared to the halfback you showcased he's more cautious regarding pressing and tackling i guess.

  • @raulalonso8398
    @raulalonso8398 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Muy buen video muy bien explicado, lo aplicaré en mi guardado con Amiens, la afición y la directiva estarán contentos al ver jugar al equipo un fútbol sólido defensivamente, me estaba costando no encajar. Muchas gracias

  • @johnyprigioni859
    @johnyprigioni859 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Also, we need a breakdown of 6:47 tactic as well! I want to set up not only this defensive tactic, but the attacking one as well.

  • @davidsands351
    @davidsands351 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love this. I tend to play a very similar 4-3-3 tactic. I also have a chase game and kill game off version. So losing at end of game I use chase game which ups mentality, more direct, higher defensive line, etc
    Then my kill game off tactic keeps same formation but slows play down, time wastes etc.
    But I love this one you’ve created, which is much better than mine.
    Funnily enough I was about to comment about why don’t you turn on play for set pieces. Goes hand in hand with time wasting for me.
    Anyway I’m certainly going to try this. A very different and well thought out bit of logic. 👍👏👏

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Sounds like you’ve got a great system already, David! We’re very similar. Thanks for the lovely comment 💙

  • @fmmdet
    @fmmdet Před 6 měsíci +1

    thanks for video great stuff. How come the role ability drops? More role ability more higher performance from the player?

  • @evelynwbf
    @evelynwbf Před 6 měsíci +4

    awesome video mate, had real issues with defense this year and this has helped out loads. im a football addict IRL and seeing how things i know about in real life like defensive fundamentals and principles are able to be translated into the game have helped a lot. have you got any advice on how to tweak this to make it better against smaller teams? what the changes will be when you're hunting a goal etc etc

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Thanks for the lovely comment mate. You could flip the first part of the video - take your defensive structure and work through it making it a more attacking version. To do that I’d focus on; adding some creativity into the midfield via a playmaker. Getting your wingers more involved and ask them to act in a more attacking nature and make sure you’ve got players in the box - AF up top and a midfielder breaking into the box CMa or B2B. Then team instructions are key, push a higher line and press

  • @delargeinho9170
    @delargeinho9170 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Tried it out with Luton, did some adaptions, finished 13th. 28 goals scored and 39 conceded.

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 6 měsíci +4

      Not bad at all! Considering they’re massive relegation favs. Tweak away until you get some more goals now, or just improve the team

  • @casanove9
    @casanove9 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Nice video, great insight on defense!. I believe the purpose of football is scoring goals. Clean sheet is nice but than matches become really boring and without emotions. A 6-2 win compared to 1-0 is a much better experience in my small opinion. 7 goals scored in 14 matches in a video game means your supporters have high risk to fall asleep on their seats.. Also..best defense in football manager is made with a good ball possesion and offense. old rule..they can't score if you have the ball. Off course each team and situations need different approaches so understanding defense principles is crucial and you explained them perfectly.

    • @GlassHouse80
      @GlassHouse80 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I disagree. I’d much rather win 1-0 or 2-0. It’s not all about scoring goals. The best teams can always defend well. It’s a big part of the game and one of the big problems I have with the Knap tactics is the ridiculous amount of goals. It makes the whole game unrealistic.

    • @whosgotrythm
      @whosgotrythm Před 5 měsíci

      I agree. Great defensive insight from the uploader, but I think this was just to show you how effective it is and defending, though I think it is good, there is no risk for the opposition to go all out attack, where they will score. You have to make some sort of attacking threat to keep the opponent honest.

  • @T.E.S.S.
    @T.E.S.S. Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm gonna try applying this to my save, I like the ideas you've got here. Quality video.

  • @mcg5404
    @mcg5404 Před měsícem +2

    Absolutely brilliant tactic.

  • @gavinhaywood9983
    @gavinhaywood9983 Před 4 měsíci +1

    just found this and subbed brilliant vid and description always looking to keep things tight and just seem to fall short but this im hoping helps me a lot. Couple of things
    1 the WM do you need capable players as my 2 wingers fall well short of the mark.
    2 would this work in a 4231 or does it have to be 4141
    i love the concept ideas and find it very Simeone A Madrid style keep em coming

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hey man, thanks for the lovely comment. WM would need to have attributes that will work in a defensive shape (concentration, work rate, positioning etc) I wouldn’t expect them to have 15 tackling as that’s not realistic. They’d be a support role to the defenders so just need to be in the right places.
      4231 could work, it’s an attacking formation but no reason why in defence the shape can’t change. I had a 4411 that transitioned to a 4231 in attack, you could adopt something similar

    • @gavinhaywood9983
      @gavinhaywood9983 Před 4 měsíci

      @@TheManagersSeat awesome thanks for the prompt reply will have a tinker with the 4231 and let you know how it goes KUTGW

  • @drew3ism
    @drew3ism Před 7 měsíci +2

    What. A. Video! Top drawer as always!

  • @callumhayes7502
    @callumhayes7502 Před 7 měsíci +1

    JD you hero. I needed this 🤝

  • @bigbutz4442
    @bigbutz4442 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video. Do you know how to tweak it to fit in an attacking midfielder? Or do you think the 3 in midfield is key ?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +2

      It’s certainly doable, depends on what formation. I had a really nice 4411 last year that was defensively solid and moved to a 4231 counter attacking tactic. Even with an AMC it’s still a 3 man midfield, just needs balance. You could have a CMs and DLPd in midfield with an AMs in front of them. I’d go for a DLP as the AM would be an outlet for attack/counter

  • @YorkshireYobbo
    @YorkshireYobbo Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have won the champions league with Shrewsbury, zaragoza, Leeds. Game is so easy if you attack and press high. I cant ever get success with a low block though, wish the game would allow defensive/counter tactics to work properly

  • @user-pp3ps6yh5r
    @user-pp3ps6yh5r Před měsícem

    Superb

  • @jesssmith3560
    @jesssmith3560 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I've had some intermittent success against big teams with lower defensive line, press less often, and counter attack tuned on. I only see tactics with Much More often pressing so I wanted to try something different. Can you try to make a lower defensive line, less often pressing tactic?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +4

      I did try. This tactic was from a LOT of testing. Dropping back deep with less pressing is just a backs against the wall 90 mins. Horrible to watch.
      I am working on a counter tactic focussing on creating space to run into. So welcome an attack, absorb, welcome overloads and then break with numbers. Very up and down!

  • @alohatigers1199
    @alohatigers1199 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I will use this tactic when my team is 2 goals up. If my team is 0-0 or losing by 1-0 down or more, I will use my primary attacking tactic. That would be my match plans

  • @fahadFirenze
    @fahadFirenze Před 6 měsíci +3

    I watched the video once its was released and to be honest I was not believing my eyes at all finally someone is talking about defensive football in FM and I have to say this this video is excellent and very informative too I still remember last year video about possession football 🔝🔝 before watching your video i was searching and gathering all avaliable informations try to replicate Otto Rehhagel Approach with Greece 2004 🇬🇷 I believe your video can be a hug help for sure keep the good work up and I hope you will always surprised us with a good quality work.
    Quick question what are the Core Attributes for this Defensive Approach? Thanks in advance

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you very much for the lovely comment! If you mean player attributes, there’s a few key areas. Particularly mentals: positioning, decisions, composure, workrate. Start with these and then introduce some key physicals (agility, balance, stamina) and technicals (marking, vision, heading)

    • @fahadFirenze
      @fahadFirenze Před 6 měsíci

      @@TheManagersSeat got it Thank you very much 🔝

  • @jordorfc
    @jordorfc Před 7 dny

    Good in depth detailed description of tactics but you changed tactics about 55 times for that tactic 😂😂

  • @DrZaius3141
    @DrZaius3141 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Time wasting: I always put it at max. There's literally no reason not to do it. If you change the overall mentality, the actual usage of time wasting changes with it, so once you go to attacking, time wasting will drop to "never", even if the bar is full to the right.
    Not only does time wasting over the course of a game mean fewer chances for the opponent to score, it also keeps your players fresher to press aggressively.
    Also, a back 3 with 2 WB and a DM (anchor or HB) is just immediately more solid from my experience.

  • @Evato-dv1nk
    @Evato-dv1nk Před 5 měsíci +1

    Can we also have the tactic before adjustment ? (denmark save)

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah I can do that mate, you in our discord? @ me in the tactics chat

  • @Y15ARG
    @Y15ARG Před 7 měsíci +1

    Have you experimented with setting CBs to 'Cover' when defending like this?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci

      I have. I found that the balance was messed up. It definitely has its merits though, if you’ve got an opposition AMC who’s playing balls through it’s a nice way to drop back and mop up.

  • @johnyprigioni859
    @johnyprigioni859 Před 5 měsíci

    Is it a good tactic to start a match? Or do you suggest to switch to this tactic in order to secure a win?

  • @15oktoober
    @15oktoober Před 2 měsíci +1

    File to download?

  • @dimasteixeira5768
    @dimasteixeira5768 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Any OI on this tactics?
    guardiola city tactic pls

  • @rodeo9598
    @rodeo9598 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Could this be used with a top team with top players ?

  • @CantonaVII
    @CantonaVII Před 7 měsíci +1

    How about central defender instructions?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Can’t remember off the top of my head, maybe check the download. Ease of tackles and maybe that’s it

  • @TiAgo-FM
    @TiAgo-FM Před 6 měsíci +1

    What about CB pi's ? Any ?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Depends on the formation, generally low risk and sensible play from them

  • @jakobburhanzyer7599
    @jakobburhanzyer7599 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This might not be effective against teams who are good at playing out of press. I am looking forward to an underdog tactic :)

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci

      True, it’s certainly not a one size fits all approach. That villa result echoed that, 424 counter was tough. Underdog tactic could be a winner 👍

  • @bubnjarovski
    @bubnjarovski Před 7 měsíci +2

    Bro, how do you plan to score a goal with this tactic?

    • @TheManagersSeat
      @TheManagersSeat  Před 7 měsíci +5

      Did you watch each element of the video? It's not a downloadable winning tactic, its to give you ideas to tweak your own tactic. The downloadable tactic will help you keep clean sheets, adopt a match plan like I mention and you can choose pockets within the game (when the match momentum is in your favour) to grab a goal