How To Reduce Bandsaw Vibration - *BONUS* Adjusting for Blade Drift
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2017
- Check out how I tuned up my bandsaw and took it from a shaky, unpleasant monster, to a smooth running dream. I installed some new urethane tires and a new drive belt and completely changed the attitude of this machine. Stay till the end to see the really simple method I use to adjust a bandsaw fence to account for blade drift.
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Love the fact you have your wife's grandpa's saw and took the time to tune it up to make it more useable.
Also loved the fence adjustment part as well as the resting of your adjustment.
Hey, thanks for the video. I too have a band saw that vibrates a lot. I think I will follow your steps and see if I can make it better. I appreciate your post. Take Care.
Good analysis and solutions for vibration. I stopped getting drift when I started centering the blade on the top wheel crown.Instructions from some sources recommend running the blade so that the teeth slightly overlap the edge of the wheel. When you think about it, following that recommendation means that the blade will bend slightly coming off the wheel and always drift away from a fence aligned to the miter slot. Centering the blade on the crown ( middle) of the wheel means that I can align my fence exactly parallel to the miter slot. I no longer have to make an adjustment on my miter gauge of a degree or thereabouts off 90 degrees.
This little band saw has turned out to be the best tool purchase I've ever made czcams.com/users/postUgkx5ZrqmYO2uJq_nuU8TopyWxVzn8vqmPUL Once doing the set-up as per the included suggestions, this table top tool has been my go-to saw ever since (8 months as of this review). There are few things I wouldn't attempt with this saw. It takes up much less space than my table saw yet delivers twice as much punch. I've used it to create slices of wood no thicker than an 1/16th of inch by using the POWERTEC BS900RF Rip Fence. For small shop projects this tool can't be beat.
I volunteer at a senior woodshop and our 14" bandsaw vibrates like crazy. I'm going to see if I can get some funding to replace the tires and belt and, at the very least, adjust the fence because I'm absolutely sure it's not straight. Our equipment gets abused and I'd not be surprised if simply squaring the fence we won't have as many drift problems. Thanks for sharing!!!
I hope that works for you!
Great tutorial video... I like the way how you explain as you go. You've explained it clearly and to the point. One thing I hate about some people is their love to just talk and talk and talk and you're wondering when is the next step going to be.... yours on the other hand wasn't like that and it's great... I'm new with woodworking and I'm gonna try that toothbrush trick you did...awesome!
Thanks Junior! I agree with you on the over-talking thing! I hate listening to myself talk so I tend to edit my videos down as much as possible. Most projects are first cut together at close to 20 minutes! Then I go through and start hacking out things that aren't necessary. My goal is to make things as short as possible without skipping anything important.
Parabéns. Excelente trabalho.
Percepção e conclusão perfeita.
I really enjoy how you made your videos on your bandsaw improvements. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome!
I did the same thing with mine when I bought a used one. I also changed one thrust bearing and the blade guides. I wanted to thank you for showing me how to adjust for blade drift in such and easy way. I never use my fence because of this, but now I'll adjust it!! :)
It's not perfect, but it definitely makes things better with very little effort.
Great video. Clear and concise. Just bought a HF 14" bandsaw. It runs smoother than I thought out of the box, but now I have a point to shoot for. In researching this I also found that the upper and lower wheels can have a heavy side. Probably more of an issue for an HF saw than a Jet, but worth checking while you are changing the tyres.
I really like your narration style.
I was just thinking the same thing. He is direct and explains why he does what he does. It helps me learn instead of leaving me with more questions.
Thank you for sharing this info. Now I know what I need to do. Thanks.👍
Excellent video! I previously did all the adjustments that you did to my bandsaw (a very similar saw to yours) including the Kreg fence. It now runs much better too.
Great, I'm glad you got some use out of it!
Really good presentation, no BS. Good useful info.
Thank you very much for this, it’s going to help me out quite a bit because I have the exact same problems that I would like to fix. You’re very kind to post this for us
This is a really useful video I now have an idea of what to look for to help my similar problem...thanks.
Great video and well put together presentation. Thanks
Thanks for the tips! I just picked up a used 14” Craftsman BAS350 (Rikon clone) from a pawn shop for $169. The table is a bit rusty and two of the bearings were seized. I sprayed the table with WD-40 and let it soak while I went to the skate shop for wheel bearings. They are the same size and a LOT cheaper than what my local woodworking shop wanted. After everything was clean and roughly lined up, I still had vibration and front to back blade movement. I had forgotten to check the motor belt until watching this video. It’s a serpentine belt that was misaligned by one groove. I adjusted that and it is running a lot better now!
Unplug the machine first and always. I like the old lower belt shape being out of round!! Nice job!!
Excellent video, straight to the point and logical approach to these problems, will now have to tackle the drive belts and wheel rubbers on mine.
I have no experience with bandsaws, but I really wanted one. I just came from a store where I bought this really cheap hobbyst model for 1/3 of the price because it was the last one they had and it was used as display (meaning it doesn't has the box, manual, etc anymore). When I turned it on at the store I noticed this huge wobbling at the blade that I hope to fix, and while searching for information on it I've found your video. Now you gave me some good ideas, and if even mine is a just a little hobbyst model, I feel a lot more inspired to improve that baby. Thank you!
This video just proved to me what I already knew - my bandsaw needs tuning, and it really shouldn't take that much work to make it run 100% better than it does. Thanks for giving me the inspiration I need to get out in the shop and get it done. You get a subscribe.
Well thank you! I'm glad I could help you out.
Thanks
Dude this is one of the best videos I have seen. And the more awesome part is that u opened up the whole machine. so simply. the toothbrush trick was awwhhsom ...
Awaiting more videos.
I have no idea how I missed this video. It's superb! I need to make a few of these adjustments. Excellent tips!
Well thanks Scott! It certainly made my bandsaw more more fun to use!
Very good tutorial! Thank you!
I should try that. Thanks for sharing.
Very helpful info, thanks for sharing.
I literally passed on buying a bandsaw yesterday because it had too much of a vibration to it. If I had only known where to look I might have been able to remedy the problem. Nice video! Glad I found your channel.
It's worth passing if it wasn't almost free. Even if all of the symptoms his showed were present you can still have issues that aren't present in his saw. Best bet is to move on and spend that money on a used one that doesn't present the problems.
I think Miguel makes a good point. If it was really cheap it could be worth a try. At the very least I'm sure you could have improved it and gotten your money back out of it if you weren't satisfied. My saw was a hand-me-down and I spent about $65 for the parts to make it run smoothly. I got lucky.
Yeah I agree with Miguel. I think I made the right choice. You can see a brief pic of it in my latest video (5 new hand planes) but it wasn't until I got up close that I started to see things I didn't like. But it's sure nice to know where to look in order to improve the vibrations in my current saw. I knew about the vbelt versus link belt improvement because I did that on my table saw but changing the tires is all brand new info for me. Thanks for the vid!
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You never know what it was, however the v belts can put a serious amount of vibration in things. My jointer I got shook the entire shop! On a cement slab! The worst was when I turned it off, as it spun down. I'm sure it would have torn up the bearings fairly quickly. This was a new jointer that had sat for 10 years without ever being turned on. I tried a link belt, and within 20 minutes it was twisting and tearing itself up. I ended up getting a new v belt, and the vibration is much better (a bit more vibration than the link belt though).
Very helpful, I appreciate your help!
great tips thanx for sharing.
i have this exact model ( also blue )
i bought it new and like your grandfather in law dismissed it as junk its been sitting in my shop 20yrs or better , yesterday i decided id give it a 2nd look b4 i sold it for a new one
ive yet to do any of the things you've done but a huge improvement was lining up the miter gauge slot with the drift of the blade it had an incredible impact
now im dying for more improvements
thanks for the video 👍
just got a band saw, and this video was great for me . thank you.great vid.
I'm glad you found it helpful!
thanks for the new belt and tune up ideas.
You made some points I have not seen before. Very helpful video.
You did a great job. Thanks for all of the useful information!
Excellent tips, thank you.
Nice tips thanks for posting!
Nice tip on setting up the fence at the end. Thank you.
Good video, thanks for not waffling on for ages about irrelevant rubbish like so many presenters do. Keep up the good work.
Cool. Thanks for sharing. Very good advise.
Articulate, informative and so very useful. Thank you
Nice video mate! Straight away to my workshop for the adjustments! Thanks 👍
that looks like a wonderful saw , love that color !
I installed that type of belt on my drill press. It made a world of difference. That was over 30 years ago and they still work perfectly.
I need to do the same for my band saw too.
Excellent video and process. Great info in the comment section. Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Thanks. I have the same saw with 6" extension, with the same vibration. I thought that was as good as it gets.
Some good tips there. For me I find the blade makes a lot of difference to vibration, with all things being equal, some blades just seem to cause more vibration than others.
Just what I needed to know! Thanks!
Very helpful! Also was not aware of an adjustable length belt or its claim to fame. Wonderful information to be given! Many thanks!
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Nice video. Handy tips. Cheers.
Exceptional video good demo and lite use of wood. I learned a lot thanks one way to get rid of the blades drift. Insure the blade is on the center of the urethane wheel. The slight arch on the wheel can cause drift. Center of blade to center of wheel
Great video. Thanks.
Nice one. We learn something new every day.
Thank you I will work on my tomorrow, as my bandsaw sat for probably 5 years
Hey bud, great video. Thanks for sharing. I just got a brand new 15-20 year old craftsman bandsaw which was also seating collecting dust all these years after the owner finish the project he bought it for. I already realized tires were an immediate change as they literally spun out double their diameter but I didn’t think of the belt which in fact also has 2 U shaped memory spots. I’ll look into that new style of belt you installed.
Nice video, well done.
FWIW, I remove blade drift by tweaking the position of the blade on the top tire; use the tilt adjustment to find the sweet spot. No need to adjust the fence.
Good video. I like your tires!
Excellent. Thanks for the vid
Like the rubber mallet wedge method. Using what you have to solve a problem.
Very nice video. The only problem With adjusting the fence to the drift is that now the fence is most likely not in line with the miter slot. Some saws allow for adjusting the top which is better. From a number of videos I've seen, drift can be eliminated from any saw ( especially an old quality made one like yours) with some know how, patience, and practice.
There is a technique to reduce or eliminate drift that involves where you place the band on the upper wheel. There are a few CZcams videos that talk about this. In my own experience, by using this band placement technique, I've eliminated drift on my Laguna LT18.
This helped a lot! Thank you!!!
Really helpful. Thank you.
Nice work. Well done!
Thanks Paul!
Linked belts remove a lot of vibration from shop tools. The links made a *huge* in quieting the air compressor. I've also installed one on the VFD-converted drill press.
It rather nice to have a drill press which works perfectly speed-wise for both wood and metal tasks.
I have the exact same bandsaw and you pointed out the exact same problem. Great video! And I too didn't use my saw enough because of these problems, but now I plan to do both upgrades to my saw now as well and go back to using it full time. When I put the saw together I added 3/8" rubber washers between the upper saw and motor box thinking it would reduce vibration. It helped out a little. To reduce motor noise I used spray foam around the inside of the motor box and it reduce it pretty well, but I didn't take any decibel measurements because I don't have a noise meter.
I hope you try these out and let me know if they made a difference for you!
That's it - I'm building a 2 wheel bandsaw. Fine tuning it seems SO much easier than a 3 wheel one. I have balanced my wheels, changed blade, tracked all the wheels (to best of my abilities) and tighten it down to it's base.
I tried to find new rubber bands for the wheels, but the price I had to pay was just not worth it (might be cheaper in the US mind you :) ).
I think you did a great job explaining/filming the fine tuning of this old JET bandsaw, so new sub here !
Thanks Mikkel! I hope you get yours all sorted out.
Very informative thank you
Thank you! It was heplful.
I like the water glass baseline. Great job.
Thanks Jeff.
Good job!! Thanks for sharing! 👍
Great video! Thanks man!
well done, very enjoyable
Good job, young man.
Nice tips!
Awesome video man 👍
I have this same saw, thanks!
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Nice old band saw and great improvements.
OLD?...that very saw is the newest machine in my shop.....lol.
Excellent work, you got subscription!
Clear illustration
Excellent video. I just purchased an older Delta 14" BS (last model made in USA.) i'll try your tips as i reassemble it.
Let me know how it turns out!
Very very very excellent
Great tips!!
Excellent
One hundred thumbs, dude!! Great video!
Thank you very much!
Dude It's all about that base- I have one too and I junked the chinsy aluminum base and bolted it to a really firm wooden base I built- and then bolted that to the ground. No wbble or vibration at all! Good tips too- I learned something from you
Thanks for the feedback Martin! I can see how a new heavy base would make a big difference.
Thanks for those tips, my bandsaw has some bad vibrations, I am taking your advise, replacing those tires first thing. Thank you for the video, I appreciate the info.
I'm glad I could help! Let me know how it goes for you.
thanks mister
good tips. TY
"That's good enough for me". Well that's good enough for me. Nice. 🤣😂😁😀😎
Great work!! How do you like that Kreg fence?
Thanks,
Adam
Just replaced my old tires that were gosh knows how old, and right away there seemed to be a huge improvement
Nice simple way to adjust the fence.
Oh and thanks for the great tips
Thanks for this. It's really great for a newb like me - I've just picked up an old bandsaw and plan to give it some love! This vid will really help!
I hope you can improve yours as much as I did!
Clever hint ever! Eeven though my band saw is an entry-level model, more suited to the hobby (Einhell BT200), the tip of changing the rubber on the pulleys was great. --->>> THANK YOU !
It could be that the main wheel bearings are worn or lower quality. Replace these with good quality bearings with the lowest internal clearances to minimise vibration. Also,use sealed bearings not shielded bearings as the shields can allow dirt or sawdust inside in time. Use the same spec bearings on the guides if these are the bearing type.
I used your tips to smooth out my cheap Central Machinery band saw. One additional step I did was to balance the wheels using automobile wheel balancing weights.
We are battling with an old UK Startrite that just gives us the heebee jeebees and vibrates like hell. Was almost giving up on it. Thanks for showing and sharing this video. At least there's some hope now as U even mentioned the link where U got your tyres from. Just great.
ATB
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I'm glad I could help. You'll have to let me know if it works for you!