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- In Japan there is an elite group of female artists - Geisha - whose purpose is to be the perfect companions to men. The Geisha world enforces a strict code of privacy and silence and is inaccessible to the average Japanese man. Clients must be introduced and be extremely wealthy as Geisha cost a minimum of £300 an hour to hire. Many Japanese people are defensive about the western perception of Geisha as highly trained prostitutes, maintaining that Geisha are artists who are trained to entertain.
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The buying of a Maiko’s virginity was outlawed in 1956 & is no longer part of any graduation process. If it were to take place after the mid 50s then it occurred illegally.
It definitely occurs illegally. Who is going to stop it?? The men with so much money they can have 5 lawyers and pay the judge off? The Maiko sure the hell are not going to say shit to anyone. They made it illegal to look better in the public eye not that it will every really be enforced
@@candaistopor1114 are you surmising this or is this based on your knowledge?
But how would you know if it's kept a secret?
They can outlaw things as much as they want. But it doesn't necessarily stop it.
They get the big $$ for a reason. I think it most definitely still does go on, but it's the Geishas choice.
@@juliusmaloney, well I would say there is a fair bit of illegal and secret activity happening behind the scenes.
Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
The classic western art of insinuating other cultures are bad or horrible without actually saying it out loud.
...or understanding what it's about.
Plural =no apostrophe. Apostrophe = possessive.
Your documentaries are always top notch..
Thanks for the upload, D.C..💖
This is very suggestive of a lot of negative things and a lot of the questions asked are super loaded. Everything about this was made to look a certain way. This is not how geisha feel and they love their jobs or they'd get different jobs. Especially since it's a lot easier to have a regular job. This makes it seem like they're exploited and just focused on pleasing men and only rich men at that. None of that is true. It's just sad how this documentary has been manipulated and turned into a bunch of lies. Gross
But it isn't a bunch of lies of todays Geisha. Their families didn't sell them into it. These girls aren't Courtesans. In my eyes, highly paid waitresses...I guess you have a thing against young female waitresses serving older men?
Whats wrong with you...
@@GWrex1skip I guess you didn't understand what I said. I'm saying they made it look like these ladies DIDN'T want to be there, when they actually DO want to and trained very hard to be there for several years. And I don't see anything wrong with them having older men customers, they just made it look like it was only old rich guys when that's not the only customers they have.....so.... nothing is wrong with me. What's wrong with you Mr asshole?
@@GWrex1skipwhat in the actual f**k? Geisha are NOT waitresses! They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear. They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I’ve never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals… ). And any documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It’s quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
After they've been alone with a client, who helps them get redressed? Is someone working there to help them.
@@debpate9405 they're not prostitutes if that's what you're implying.
Thank you for this video
The girls speak of it as a great honor to be a geisha yet there is such sadness behind their eyes.
I was thinking the very same thing. Xo
That's subjective. You can't know they're sad unless they agree with you, since you haven't asked and they say they love their work, we can only assume they're telling the truth.
I think the music is responsible
Nope. Watch the other documentaries. Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
They are discovering the true nature of this business.
I assumed this was a bad quality documentary because of the horrible thumbnail. I would change it to a capture of one of the actual geisha that appear in the documentary.
Aesthestically beautiful.morally impaired tho...those girls probably end up with ptsd...
How would you know they are morally impaired? True geishas are not prostitutes.
Neautiful and very interesting video that shows the reality behind the surface. Loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on Geisha …! Bravo 👍👍👍
I enjoyed the movie The Geisha....
I think it has many accuracies.
But I doubt they'd admit it.
37:59: She looks so beautiful and sad here at the same time. I don't think I'd like to be a Geisha, because they all seem like this in too many instances throughout the film. They say one thing, but their faces say something else, something dark and depressing and unhappy. Their expressions belie a truth that they feel they cannot or should not speak of, for it's forbidden or at least frowned upon. I'd like to paint this young woman as she appears in this scene, beautiful and unhappy is what I'd name it.
There were a few stunners. But don't think they were all beautiful. I saw 1 or 2 that were below average, as far as a Geisha goes.
Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
I'm Brazilian but I think the outfit is simply wonderful.
One thing for sure, they have the most immaculately clean environment, from their appearance to the streets they walk on. Absolutely stunningly amazing.
Finally, a documentary that includes the actual customers of geishas. This documentary may be shocking for those who believe in the fairy tale that geishas usually portray, but it's like a breath of fresh air for me.
Does anyone know how old this documentary is?
There’s something so alluring about Geisha
I think this was made in the 90s.
Fun fact; The first Geisha's were men.
I heard that lol..but not shocking today lol..
😅😅😅😅😅
@@MsDisneylandloverthe reason your thinking wasn’t as silly or weird back then. There were many reasons culturally etc.
The male geisha did not wear drag. They were dressed as regular men - because this was a male profession at first.
This must have been made in the late '80s or early '90s. Definitely dated by the cameras, the Atari and the little old creepy dude they said he was born in the twenties.
1999 so neither. The quality is definitely too good to be in the 80s at all.
Hard to believe that sex is not part of their job.
Why?
Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
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@@Makkaru112 Did you see the men who spent all that money on them? Now, tell me, do you honestly believe sex was never a part of the deal? I'm not saying it happened always, or in a cheap way. But really, do you think these men would settle for just some flirting?
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
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Totally agree.
This day and age the poor girls for dirty old men is sickening.
Nope. Stop watching memoirs of a geisha and watch the Miyako Odori festivals inside the temples etc. Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
Watch Makanai: Cooking For Maiko House. Shows a real life Japanese geiko and maiko and how they live life from a live action adaptation of the manga story of the same title.
Yet, unlike their predecessors they choose this profession freely. I highly doubt these girls saw beyond the pretty surface, though when they decided to become a geiko.
Ok but why they try to portray this so dramatic ? Like if they are forced to be geishas and as if these men rape them ? And omg that dramatic and sad music lol what in the USA is going on here ????
Modern day American culture likes men to stay emasculated and simping online. So they demonize other cultures where men still have power and express their sexuality naturally. In America women are the biggest consumers so they rule the roost.
What year was this produced?
1999 if I remember right. Around that time anyway because I recorded this doc on a VHS tape some twenty years ago when it was shown on TV here in Finland.
Why do you have such a HORRID thumbnail on the video for this? It's completely disrespectful. Use an image from the documentary!
They’re.. So Beautiful. So traditional. An honor and yet very alone. Perhaps it’s the sacrifices they make that allows me to see them in such a delicate way.
But they are not alone. They have each other
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
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Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
Erase the fact you’ve ever watched “memoirs of a geisha” and watch Buyo Noh Master “AskShogo” and his wife that’s a former geiko react to scenes from that movie.
I'm sorry, but I had to chuckle at the "knockoff" Geisha's in the hot springs lol
what's up with that rogue apostrophe? ugh.
who made this?
They remain single because having spent time with many distinguished men they just can’t settle for less. Unfortunately those distinguished men merry within their circle and would almost never settle for a geisha. Quite sad…
They prepare for later years by becoming a trainer of the younger women
These girls are supposedly high class and cultured, why don't they marry?
I'll tell you why, no man really wants a wife who has spent years and years pleasing dirty old men.
At least when they retire they have their nest egg.
But money can't buy love. It can buy nice luxurious things though. But they don't quite fill that empty void, that only another human can fill.
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
Quite demanding so if I were Japanese I could never succeed at such a disciplined life. I think it’s a very beautiful part of their culture. Totally fascinating. These women earn every dollar they are paid. Wonderful video!
In your title, Geisha’s In Japan”- the word Geishas does not require an apostrophe. It should just read “Geishas In Japan”. Just trying to be helpful.
No they have it right. Theirs more than 1 geisha.
@@tammycox9789 You are wrong. But their title is also wrong. The plural of geisha is geisha. One geisha, many geisha. But I was still correct as far as how it was used so I stand by it. Regardless, you are using the word “their” incorrectly- it would be “there’s more than..”. I’m not trying to be rude or anything but I am correct.
RIGHT!
No apostrophe.
Who cares? Just enjoy the video!
@@madelynhowarth8631😂
There should also be this for woman just as well. I have no prejudices against it either way as long as if its what one truly wants to become.
My heart feels a deep sadness for these special women. We shall never know what their real thoughts are. They are similar in authority to nuns. They are lovely to look at and a part of Japan. A truly exhausting profession and having to endure old drunken men without showing their distaste. Losing their real selves much as a rape victim does in the process of a rape or sexually abused children. I feel for their utter loneliness. It is hard for a Westerner to understand. We have nearly all got the wrong impression of Geisha. Just how much and who has sex is a mystery. I liked these ladies enormously and wish them only the best fortune in life. I watched Memoirs of a Geisha also and felt that sadness and putting aside their real feelings.
First of all, you have to read the "Real Memoirs of a Geisha." The author whose book as the basis for the movie, well he was successfully sued by the Geisha that he interviewed. The "De-flowering" of these women officially stopped in 1956. The girls were sold to the "houses" by their own families...take a moment and ponder that...today its a choice.
The secret life of these girls are do to the fact that they entertain wealthy powerful men. As such as some of them, will over hear critical corporate information. Silence and secrecy...meaning..."Confidentiality"...is a necessary social grace...
And don't forget, there were different levels of these women as well. Some were educated in medical arts and science, some for entertaining wealthy powerful men, others were sexual courtesans...and excellence was demanded of them as well. Remember, the Japanese men too, were trapped in arranged marriages...(just like modern America...money goes with money). Yes, it was a Patriarchal System...but it served a purpose; and, provided social order.
I feel worse for modern day Western women's children graduating from the 1970's "Women's Liberation Movement." Women became more like men in their sexuality. Now, Western women swing from man to man...via the "Vine" like me JANE. We have blended families whose kids are shuttled around from one brood house to another. Honestly, they are really screwed up.
Isn't it any wonder why we are on the another Cival War?
How do you know they are losing their true self? That's quite an assumption. BTW memoirs of a geisha is a fictional story.
@@OlSkool001it was hilarious to see buyo and Noh master from AskShogo with his wife react to that movie performance scenes and they were aghast at how weird it was. His wife also was a former geiko or former maiko who completed a certain level of training !
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They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
Are you trying to say ’geisha’ in plural? ”Geisha’s” is possessive form. This confusion between possessive and plural is common for those whose grammar is poor. The words geisha, geiko and maiko are not capitalised.
In this case, if you spoke or read Japanese, you would know the plural of geisha is geisha. Also, if you knew anything about the ones in Kyōto, you would refer to them by the correct term which is ’geiko’.
Read Mineko Iwasaki’s book if you want an accurate portrayal of modern geiko.
They make me sick!
... they're like robots with nerves.... 😢
Nope. Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
(Best comment must be shared) - They are highly trained artists and intellectuals who study many years to attain their status. Do you even know how hard it is to even just wear a kimono!? I have been playing shamisen for eight years, and I still am not great! I studied kimono for MONTHS just to wear a regular one, not even the fancy hikizuris that the maikos wear.
They read all the news, the literature, they learn to paint, they learn to arrange flowers, they learn to dance (omg, Japanese dancing is so hard - I've never done it, just played taiko for performances, so I sat in on the rehearsals...). And any
documentary that starts off with a stupid grammar mistake in the title is highly suspect anyway. By the way, most Geisha entertain families as well as parties of just men. It's quite common for them to be hired by a woman to entertain a family or a business get together. You really should refrain from commenting about things that you know nothing about.
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The title picture isn't even a real Geisha.
The Kimono is not a real one either and looks so cheap.
The vibe of Japanese culture is romantic. Sweet melancholy. Don’t feel sorry for anyone.
Why do you need an apostrophe for the plural of the word Geisha? Asking for a friend
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Yeahhhh, that lady in your thumbnail is NOT geisha. That is the worst imitation of a geisha I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen some pretty bad ones. And uh … what’s up with the comma in the title?
All other documentaries I have watched about Geishas so far, have focused on the cultural aspects and their performing arts. This documentary makes it seem like some perverted old guys in their 60ies just like to enjoy the company of pretty 16 year old virgin girls which is very odd…!
Geiko and maiko are lore keepers, maintainers of Japanese culture, masters of ancient Japanese language/poetry/ways of thinking etc. they contribute to Japanese society in many ways. Many graduates and initiates from different levels of training lead very interesting lives and even grow their own companies and often visit their Okiya family. “Sisters” and “mother” alike. They also visit shrines and hold local events for the citizens often. Growing personal relationships shop with one another. Many watch a geiko and maiko grow over their lifetime and sometimes even have the one they’re rooting for. Their names are also given by Shinto priests.
No, it is not odd at all. It is what it has always been. Who do you think has the means for this, especially today when geisha - unlike in the past - ARE rare?
These one-sided skewed accounts (it's a shame to call them documentaries!) are terrible. They do the same thing with the Amish. Terrible!
What an anachronism!
i wish i could be a maiko, its a pity they dont let foreing woman be so TT-TT
サムネイル画像の着物が日本の着物じゃないし、死んだ人の着付けになってる。
£50,000 per year on a woman? There's literally *no* woman worth such expenses
But yet they make it, and if some men are willing to pay it. You can't deny that maaaaaybeeeeeeeee emphasizes on that. They are, no rudeness intended
@@bloodstonedrawer2445 No woman is worth spending £50,000 a year on
@@koppadasao yet they spend it tho
@@bloodstonedrawer2445 Nut cases
@@chenwang5968 No, there's nothing a woman can do that makes her worth a dime, let alone £50,000 a year