Kia Anti-Theft Software Update-How It Behaves

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • How the Kia anti-theft software update behaves (February 2023). This is how to test your update to ensure it works.
    UPDATE: I’m beyond frustrated with Kia and Hyundai. I have the update but I literally put a Club in my steering wheel and post signs in the windows warning the thieves that the Anti Theft software has been updated and the car won’t start. A recent comment casts doubt on the software update actually working if the thief accesses the car from the back door.
    Also, if you have one of these cars and even if you do have the update, you’d have to still be careful where you took it. There is no way I’d take my car to San Francisco, Oakland, or another high crime area. Even if the car didn’t start you’d still have a mess on your hands from a broken window.
    Finally, we have decided to buy an EV and have had the Kia for sale for about a month. This Kia theft problem has affected resale value for sure plus not many legitimate buyers seem interested in the car. We’ve had great luck with the car and really like it. It’s in wonderful shape yet I’m pretty much getting crickets responding to the ad. Fortunately I found an online car buying outfit that wants the car but at a fraction of what it should be worth.
    I’m sad to see the car go but I am happy my anxiety level will finally go down a few notches.
    Kia and Hyundai should not be allowed to get away with this!
    I wish you all good luck with your cars. Buy yourself a Club as a deterrent however, the best deterrent is to sell the car and take it in the shorts financially. I don’t think I’ll ever buy a Kia or Hyundai again. Shame on them!!

Komentáře • 42

  • @smy250
    @smy250 Před rokem +7

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. I got my software update 2 weeks ago, but wasn’t sure how to test it. Still using a club and hoping any would-be thieves notice the window stickers. Good luck to all of us affected by this unfortunate and completely avoidable situation. 😒

    • @brendamitchell1538
      @brendamitchell1538 Před rokem

      Don’t bother with the club. I had a club on my 2020 Kia Sportage and they were able to get it off and steal my car.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +3

      Those window stickers are so small. I was afraid some would be car thief wouldn’t see them so I installed a Club and printed up a couple of sheets of paper that state the anti-theft software has been updated. I throw those on my dash at night when the car sits in front of my house at night. The Club is just there to catch their attention. They can’t steal the car with the software update but I don’t want them to break my window to find out. Kia should have provided more noticeable window stickers.

    • @b.mitchell4169
      @b.mitchell4169 Před rokem

      @@ArVeeNiner Yep I got the update Monday. Those stickers are very small and the would be thief isn’t going to see it nor read it. Stickers are way to small.

    • @viitheblogger5480
      @viitheblogger5480 Před rokem

      Does the software update actually work for you guys ? I got my car stolen but it’s now in the repair shop, I’m going to get the update when I get my car back but I was gonna do the update, get a kill switch and a tracker.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +1

      @@viitheblogger5480 I wouldn’t go to the trouble of adding a kill switch. Get the software upgrade and that will keep it from getting stolen. I bought a Club as a visual deterrent when it’s parked in my driveway. The stickers they give you about the software upgrade are so small. I know my car won’t get stolen but I don’t want somebody breaking my window to find out. I hope the Club will catch their attention, plus I printed out a couple of sheets of paper that I put on the dash that say the software has been upgraded.

  • @asterixky
    @asterixky Před rokem +5

    I had the free security upgrade done by the dealer last month. The use of the key fob is the answer. When you lock the car with the fob, it enables the security system. You will need to use the fob to unlock the car. If then the thief breaks the window and tries to start the car, the car won't start and the horn will alarm.
    Or, if you use the key to unlock the car, it will override the fob and you can start the car.
    If you lock the car with the fob, and the thief breaks a window to enter the car, and finds the keys inside the car, the car will still not start and the horn will alarm.
    In my book, it is a very good upgrade worth any aftermarket alarms on the market.

    • @kim.in.nature.
      @kim.in.nature. Před rokem +1

      Question: if you happen to lose your fob, you can also use the key in the door and then in the ignition, and that will work too?

    • @asterixky
      @asterixky Před rokem +1

      @Kim in Nature yes. It will work. I think, when you are using the key to open the door, that's when it disable the alarm.

    • @PlumbCarton5607
      @PlumbCarton5607 Před rokem

      But will locking the car with the key in the door arm the alarm? My mother's fob won't work after it was stolen so it's the old fashioned key in the door to lock/unlock it for her

  • @yung-qh5ts
    @yung-qh5ts Před rokem +1

    Finally a peace of mind. I'm getting my update soon

    • @Castle743
      @Castle743 Před rokem

      Theft break window
      They don't open door
      So peace of mind

  • @hammondeggs3356
    @hammondeggs3356 Před rokem +1

    I have a 2016 Forte with the factory alarm system. It has a red light on the top of the dash that will come on when i lock the car with the remote. It is a steady red for thirty seconds. According to the manual, thats when the car is arming itself. After the thirty seconds elapses, the light blinks every few seconds and the alarm is armed. I haven't had the update yet, but will do so soon.

    • @hammondeggs3356
      @hammondeggs3356 Před rokem

      @Phillip Banes I have the “Popular Package” which includes upgraded radio, upgraded seat cloth, led turn signals in the side mirrors, no keyhole in trunk, etc. Maybe that explains it. Not sure…

  • @gregorysmith177
    @gregorysmith177 Před 10 měsíci

    Also. If you hit the lock button twice so to lock the car. This sets the alarm to on. Straight away

  • @ImDaBadGuy
    @ImDaBadGuy Před rokem +1

    What happens if they break the window and climb in without opening or unlocking the door? I thought that was part of why it was easily defeated. No door opened, no alarm.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +1

      Yes, no alarm but the car still wouldn’t be able to be started. It can only be started after the doors are unlocked with the remote from what I understand.

    • @ImDaBadGuy
      @ImDaBadGuy Před rokem

      @@ArVeeNiner That is also what I'm trying to figure out. If the battery dies in the keyfob and the alarm is armed, will I not be able to unlock and start the car with they key only. I see some people say you can, some say you can't. Thanks for the reply

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +1

      @@ImDaBadGuy Good point. I’ve read that too. I will try it and post my findings later today.

    • @ImDaBadGuy
      @ImDaBadGuy Před rokem

      @@ArVeeNiner 👍 Another thing I never heard that I also want to try, i have a different model car than you, but apparently you can set the alarm with the key in the door if you have a dead fob. I'm gonna give it a try. I think you turn the key twice to the left and can still arm the alarm. Take care

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +2

      @@ImDaBadGuy OK, I just checked the following out on my car.
      Scenario 1: Lock the doors with the remote. Break the window but don’t open the door. Result: Horn honks as soon as the key, or presumably something else like a screwdriver, is put in the ignition. Car will not start with the key until the doors have been unlocked by the remote.
      Scenario 2: Lock the doors with the key, not the remote. Break glass, reach in, open door. Result: Horn honks as soon as the door is opened. Car won’t start until the remote, or the key in the door, unlocks the doors. You don’t have to turn the key more than once when locking the door without using the remote. It arms with only a single turn of the key.
      Scenario 3: Your remote is dead. You lock your car with the window open. You reach in to open the door. The horn honks. How do you stop it? You simply put the key back in the door lock and turn it. Honking stops and you will again be able to start your car.
      Scenario 4: You’re the bad guy. You break into the car and the horn starts honking. Can you disable the horn and the starter cutout by just operating the door locks with the button inside the car? Result: No you cannot. Pressing the door lock button inside the car locks and unlocks the door but does nothing to stop the honking and doesn’t override the starter lockout.
      Hope this helps.

  • @TezOutdoors
    @TezOutdoors Před rokem +1

    I guess it’s an improvement 😒 it should activate instantly after locking!!!!!

  • @Cheyloveesbunny1993
    @Cheyloveesbunny1993 Před 9 měsíci

    If they take off the column and punch out the ignition they still won’t be able to start it correct? What if they break the back window and then try it that what without the alarm going off??? That’s what happened to my car 4 months ago when it was stolen. I just got the update today

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sorry to hear that. I just read an article that said the alarm doesn’t sound when opening the back door. What were they thinking?? I would have thought that it still wouldn’t start but you just proved that is not the case.
      This is so irresponsible by Kia and Hyundai. This same article states an immobilizer costs the manufacturer $25! Put the immobilizer in then raise the price of the car $100! Nobody would have known and we wouldn’t be worried about our cars being stolen and K and H makes a bigger profit. By law, they had to provide immobilizers in those cars sold in Canada. So they had to ensure that those cars going to the US wouldn’t have them! So frustrating!

    • @Cheyloveesbunny1993
      @Cheyloveesbunny1993 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ArVeeNiner when I called the dispatcher about my car being stolen, she said someone’s already reported it and I asked why didn’t my alarm go off and they say them breaking out the back window is a good way for thieves to steal cars easily because the alarm won’t go off and make a huge ruckus and it avoids the purpose of being caught 🥺 I really think Kia and Hyundai need to put alarms in back windows as well for this reason!! The ENTIRE car should be secure.. I got my anti theft for free because I had a recall that needed done.. I really don’t know if Kia does it for free without recalls though, they really should.. I have a 2020 KIA Rio and out of all the cars sitting there, they chose mine 🥺 I was in Cleveland Ohio visiting my boyfriend when it happened.. we were sleeping and woke up to go get frozen custard and noticed my car was gone.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před 9 měsíci

      @@Cheyloveesbunny1993 Were you able to get the car back or did they destroy it? A lot are used for joy rides and are eventually severely damaged. They’ve also been used to commit other crimes, sometimes smashing them into stores in order to steal merchandise.
      A couple of weeks ago just a couple miles from my house, some 15 year olds slammed the Kia that they stole into a young pregnant woman. Both her and her unborn child were killed. Horrible!
      We are all at risk from these stolen car joy rides. I recently read an article that stated 80% of the eligible cars out there haven’t gotten the software update. It will take years to get the majority of these cars updated and even then not all the cars will get the update. I too received a letter to remind me to update which I did immediately. I told a friend about it who didn’t get a letter but I think he was able to get the software updated.
      After all this I just read that Kia and Hyundai have yet to explain why they didn’t install immobilizers on these cars. They owe us all an explanation and restitution as far as I’m concerned.

  • @sylvianapier7800
    @sylvianapier7800 Před rokem

    I got the update in February. They tried to steal it yesterday. They broke the window went through the step to hot wire it but I guess it wouldn’t start. I still have the car thank God. But I do have to repair the damage to the window and steering will. They didn’t pay attention to the sticker on the window. The cops said put a sign in the window letting them know it’s anti theft protected so it don’t happen again.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem

      That sucks about the damage. That’s not cheap but you still have the car.
      Yea those stickers are too small. I printed out 2 signs that say “anti-theft software updated” that I leave on the dash. I’ve been thinking of also adding something to them that says the car won’t start since these idiots are, well, idiots. I also have a Club steering wheel lock that isn’t there to keep the car from being stolen but as a visual deterrent.
      It really irritates me that Kia and Hyundai failed to provide us the most basic protection against theft that any other newer car has. What was the point? These thieves are out there driving around in our cars doing other crimes. I’d be surprised if nobody has been killed yet. I’d say Kia and Hyundai should be liable for these crimes, and deaths, that have occurred as a result of their bad decision.
      Get those signs made and now you can be certain that these jerks won’t be stealing your car. Take care.

    • @sylvianapier7800
      @sylvianapier7800 Před rokem

      @@ArVeeNiner yes I called them this morning and asked why don't the cars have the blinking light that let them know the car has a security system. The police said that also lets them know not to steal it. They said that's an alarm system and I would have to have it installed myself by somewhere else. They don't do that. Smh. After I get it fixed I'm gonna see if Nissan will buy it and I trade it for one of their cars. I had my versa 5 years no problem. I had the Kia almost 2 years and they try to steal it. They should stop selling them. When I went to get an estimate they were working on a car that I take it didn't have the anti-theft protection so they stole it. 😡😡

    • @NatureBoy12100
      @NatureBoy12100 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ArVeeNiner You're assuming that these idiots can read.

  • @greenzeldayoshi4192
    @greenzeldayoshi4192 Před rokem

    I have seen it work on a Hyundai with the update, so I assume it works for a Kia too but locking the door with the key itself into the keyhole of the doorhandle should now arm and disarm the security system so if the battery in the key fob dies you can still immobilize the car. You don’t have to use the key fob to arm it.

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +2

      Yes, I just tested locking the door with the key, but not pressing the key fob. It arms the system just like you said. Thanks for the tip.
      I’m not happy with the size of the stickers. So, I bought a steering wheel lock and put it on the wheel when the car is parked in my driveway as a visual reminder to any potential car thief. Also, I printed out a couple of signs to throw on the dash and the seat that state that the anti theft software has been updated.

    • @monteniece
      @monteniece Před rokem

      @@ArVeeNinerhow can I get the update installed?? Just bought one yesterday, and I just want a piece of mind😩!!

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +1

      @@monteniece call your local Kia dealer and schedule an appointment. The update is free.

  • @otariashvili2686
    @otariashvili2686 Před rokem

    When They are Breaking The window alarm is start noise or not?

    • @ArVeeNiner
      @ArVeeNiner  Před rokem +1

      The horn honks if somebody reaches in and unlocks the door without a key. I’m pretty sure mine did that before the upgrade but I can’t say I’m 100% sure of that. It does now for sure and you can see it in the video.

  • @leea3531
    @leea3531 Před rokem

    I think the only way it to know fully is to BRAKE THE KEY Solenoid and use a USB charging cable lol 😂 if that doesn’t work then they finally fixed the issue

    • @isaiyanez4543
      @isaiyanez4543 Před rokem +1

      He should do it for research purposes

    • @auroracoloradolocksmith2473
      @auroracoloradolocksmith2473 Před rokem

      My question is can u use the flip key to unlock the door

    • @leea3531
      @leea3531 Před rokem

      @@auroracoloradolocksmith2473 no they can’t do that . They usually just break your window and enter . The issue is that they will keep doing it even if you get the recall done . It will take time

  • @Castle743
    @Castle743 Před rokem

    The update is a joke
    Value down. Stress of possible theft, insurance cost. Progressive won't bother giving you quote,
    years if car payments
    Settle by attorneys no fix of cause of problem
    I hate kia will never buy a kia ever again