Gold is gold, and bars are a better value. Fakes can be bars or coins. If you buy and sell from and to the popular dealers, you're fine. I made a couple hundred dollars per bar selling back to SD. I will not buy overpriced American and Canadian coins. A good thing about bars is, if they're stolen, you have a serial number.
Agree with you. A lot of fake gold coins is in circulation everywhere but gold bars we buy with authenticy certificate attached telling you the gold you purchased is real.
Another great video Sean. I’ve always bought coins, but the last few months been buying 10 oz silver bars.. I have just purchased my first 1 oz gold bar (IGR), waiting to receive it and see how it feels. Keep up the good work.
I just started stacking last year and have primarily been focusing on 1 oz Gold coins. I may add some bars in the future but I prefer coins for now. Thanks for sharing!
One benefit of the coin is you can balance it on your finger and tap the edge with a pen. Each design and material of coin can have a distinct sound, but once you learn what a kruggerand, canadian maple, or american eagle sounds like, this sound cannot be faked. Since the coins are manufactured with high repeatability, this sound serves as a signature to verify the authenticity when used in combination with basic physical measurements. So no fake coin can pass all four of the following checks: weight, diameter, thickness, acoustic ping. Tungsten can pass the first three but will have an empty thud when tapped. This is the easiest way to verify gold with primitive tools and is the origin of the phrase "sound money".
Another great video, Sean. I am a one ounce Gold Maple stacker. I don't mind paying $13 more With the security features and Worldwide recognition a Gold stacker can't go wrong. Also, the 24k is a benefit for people that live in Countries that tax Gold that falls below .995 purity. Any 24k coin or bar should be always be in a protective capsule.....Why take a chance of a scratch or a dropped coin or bar? I suggest for stackers to stay away from anything that is fractional, the premiums are just too high. Better to save up and buy those one ounce coins!
I like to diversify and let the premiums and chance take a part in the diversification. 1 oz coins are nice but also quite expensive so especially in times with rising prices it can make good sense to buy when you can. I buy .900 as happily as I by .9999 so last year when my local dealer had a special deal on Austrian 1 Ducat I hit the button and got some at just about the same premium as 1 oz coins - they where even slightly cheaper than 1/10 oz coins despite containing more gold. I don't know about other dealers around the world but at my place dealers tends to give you just about spot when selling. So having fractionals give you more opportunities when selling. I know the war (I mean "special military operation") wasn't happening when you wrote your comment but as things looks now spiced up with c-virus in China we look at rising inflation and dark times ahead. Being able to sell fractionals will allow your reserves to last longer as the moment it's converted to fiat currency it looses its value fast. I don't plan on selling my PM any time soon though and I can take a significant more of financial disturbance than many others but you'll never know what'll happen. Had you asked me before the "special military operation" begun I'd say such a scenario was very unlikely despite China's zero tolerance for c-virus.
@@fishmonger6879 Who are you asking? Sure I think it's wise to have a nice balance in your stack. But still I don't extremely small sizes like are wise to stack to a huge extend - for smaller "denominations" we have silver. I have a few 1 grams bars but only 1 I'm keeping - it was the first piece of investment gold I ever bought - the others are for gift occasions and one is already destined to be giftet during the summer at a baptism. Smallest coin I have is 2.02 gram and only one. Then there's 1/10 and 3,44 gram (1 Austrian Ducat). Otherwise it's 20 Francs/Lire and others closer to 1/4 oz. No way I'm stacking 1/10 at dealers premium but if I'm lucky at auction or private deals I'll sure pick em up. But I do stack 1oz too. To be honest I really dont believe in any scenario where bartering will ever become common. We stackers are a minority - just look at how many people have sold their gold during the last financial crisis - not many have any gold of significance left - let alone real bullion - and in the case of a crisis will people not used to handling gold trust your gold? IMHO not very likely. So by all probability it'll be with a dealer as middleman exchanging to/from inflation hit cash. Also I don't see the gold as a hedge against that. Here you'll do much better by offering your labour and when the crisis is finally over then your gold can give you a nice head start. But I do hope it's not the case. I stack because it's fun and as a secondary retirement funding in addition to the traditional primary one.
@@fishmonger6879 .999 Gold will be split and weighed. No question about purity. The Spanish would break a "Piece of Eight" down into fractional. They did this for 400 years. No problem.
I believe diversifying in silver is wise. Silver demands more preference in my opinion. During this past year, I decided not to buy any less than 9999 in gold. 999 makes no sense to me anymore. I dislike paying more in premiums on the fractional gold, but I believe it is wise to have fractional gold as well. Right now, I only invest in bars; due to the lower premium. Those are my thoughts. Sean, great video! You don't need my advice, but I think you're doing everything right, I think you'll have 100K Subs by the end of this year for sure. Keep up the good work my friend!
Yup, I started out in silver too! I think it's how many of us first got into precious metals! Haha thanks for the kind words, I'm just taking it step by step and seeing how things go! You too sir!
I rather buy coins than bars from the bullion stores. Cheaper bars on the secondary market are tempting but am worried of fakes. Another fantastic video, thanks for sharing Sean. Cheers 👍🏻😊
Maples are all I buy. The biggest bang for you're buck. I refuse to pay the crazy premium for AE coins. I've thought about the Austrian philharmonic. Lower premium, yet most likely you'll get above spot when selling
I only my stack maples with the radial lines. It’s easier to convince new and seasoned stackers of its safety than compared to an gold or silver eagle. Being in Canada we pay taxes on anything that’s not .999 so most stay away from buffalos; especially coin shops as they have to charge tax to the seller and who wants to pay taxes on $1750 US when you can buy a maple instead?
I’m not sure there’s a tax on constitutional silver , or 80% in Canada, but there is on jewelry, which is under 999 fine, at least we don’t have that British bullshit VAT tax.
In the jurisdiction I live a collection of coins is classified as a consumer good, similar to jewellery, and not as wealth (which bars generally would be). A collection isn't reportable and isn't subject to wealth tax. For long term holding, a collection of coins is much cheaper and much more private than holding bars.
I just started stacking but I'm loving bars so far...but I haven't bought a coin yet, maybe after I buy my first coin I'll change my mind. I love the Geiger bars
I want it not because of investments. I like it because they are beautiful. 1 gram of coin is happy enough for me. I like gold with cool design. I might like silver more. They are more beautiful.
I like the smaller spreads between the buy price and the sell back price, this applies to silver as well. We can hope to recover some premium paid but it's not guaranteed since we don't know what the future holds. For silver and gold stackers it goes beyond the mind what the valuation is in fiat currencies of their metals stack since they're preparing for a world where fiat currency may not exist! At least for a time period. The central banks are doing their best to conspire with the commercial banks to hold down the valuation of silver and gold in order to keep things under control.
I agree and see evidence for gold and silver suppression, but very few people are willing to call it out, even though banks have been fined many times in the past for doing so.
Sean there are some things you might want to address. If you are buying in the US you want Eagles as opposed to Maple Leafs? Dealers in the US are going to give you more for your Eagles as opposed to Maple Leafs or Krugerrands upon resale. Also you cannot sell Eagles tax free in Singapore because of the reduced Gold content.
Wow, i had to look that up, but yeah, that’s true about the eagles. But also the Krugerrand? I think they of the same purity as the eagles. Wow, I never thought of these kinds of tax rules. I figured what does it matter the purity. I guess they want to stop jewelry being tax free.
Great video. The age old question bars or coins? Bars are better you get the most weight for your money. Coins are for fanatics who love design's like collectors and history fanatics plus you pay more coins which is not wise. As far as taxes go I don't understand why people use portfolio's to purchase precious metals and have the government in their business. I refuse to pay taxes on precious metal 🤣 Just buy physical and shut up & keep quiet about it and sell back to a dealer when the time is ready. Or save up and use as collateral for income producing asset like a house and buy back precious metals slowly with real estate revenue rinse wash and repeat.
My philosophy exactly. You pay money to the Government when you get your paycheck or other things, like Social Security or Pension. Why pay more when you sell?
Here in South Africa I only stack gold and silver Krugerrands, as it is by far the most popular bullion coin around here, and that gives me peace of mind when time might come to liquidate, and for some reason I just prefer 22k over 24k gold.
I stack what I can by chance. I like to hunt great deals so my stack is quite diversified. But I agree with you. Having lived 3 years of my pre school childhood in South Africa in the 80s (a wonderful time for me back then) my 💓 is also for the Krugerrands. Not that I don't like the national vintage gold coins or others but being the first and original bullion coin imho also counts. What I also love about them is that they don't have an arbitrary low denomination unlike any other bullion - their legal tender value is whatever the gold price is - love that!
Yeah. I started out buying bars. Rushed out to get 2x 100gram when I learned that having gold bars was not only legal but also investment gold is VAT exempt (my parents and "everybody" have been lying) and since then also some smaller 20 grams and the like. Kinda regretted since that but I still have them since it costs to convert them to coins. Should I need large amount liquidated they'll be the first to go. Now I've switched to coins. Much easier to do when trading privately as they're much easier to verify using inexpensive tools than goldbars (never been fooled in my 10+ years of stacking). I also like to hun the good private deals on markets where you're not likely to expect gold coins to emerge. Often the sellers re not fully aware of what they're selling or there's not a dealer in their area. Of course it's mostly the smaller coins but I've just picked to 2x 1 Ducat and 1x 4 Ducat 15% below my local dealers buy price - too good to not pull the trigger and yes they're genuine (1915 restrikes). Actually they've been on the (mostly fashion) trading site for a long time. But the seller don't know where to sell them so they're just sold along with her clothes and jewelry. For a long period they've been too expensive but as time has gone by two things have happed. Seller lowered her prices while gold price has gone up and since I was in the mood to add to my stack now was as good a time as any other. Not my first choice of coins to stack (prefer Krugerrands and vintage Europeans) but as said I also like to diversify and the price was too nice to ignore.
I'm new to purchasing precious metals and today I got hosed. I bought two 1 oz bars of platinum online, I read that purchases over $1500 were not taxable.......but I did not read the fine print........."California politicians and bureaucrats unfortunately impose sales taxes on all order totals under $1,500. Also, all non-coins minted of platinum, palladium, rhodium, and copper -- as well as non-metal items -- are taxed regardless of your order size." Added about $230 to the order. I always have to learn the hard way. California smh
If you buy gold bar, the dealer will have to take the bar out of the plastic case to test its authentication. By doing so your gold bar will be deducted a certain amount of dollar for that. However for gold coin when you take it out of a capsule your coin will not be reduced in value 😮. Hate to say it but if you buy gold bar and you will.never get a chance to hold it feel it and when the time you can feel it by taking it out you will be charged premium for that😮
What about if you were to buy flawed, scratched, dinged up Canadian Maples, as an example. They would be a better price and you still get 1 oz of gold. Would that be a bad investment, hard to sell later?? Thank you Sean!
It's well made but safety signs are scarce in today's conditions. Gold is money, there are more security signs on banknotes. The manufacturer did not think about this.
Any US based stackers here that have a comment on they are buying right now? I dont have nay gold yet just silver. I am looking to either get some bars or US mint coins. Being mid 2022, coins are much higher premium i.e AGE's and buffalos. Does anyone have experience in their worth when going to sell lately? It seems like most places are paying over spot for gold eagles or buffs but do you even make the $ back if you had just bought a gold bar and got less back for it but you paid much less. Id like to get some gold but just cant decide in this timeframe whether to go for the cheaper up front bars or stick to the US coins and pay the higher up front cost in hopes I will recoup some of that in the long run.
Thanks for the great content Sean! Just a quick question! Did you know if Canadians that buy coins through banks have to report it to the Gov? And are all precious metals bought and sold in USD currency? As you did would you recommend starting in buying silver 1 oz coins! Thanks Sean!!!
Hmm all precious metals are priced in USD, but you will pay in your local currency because your dealer will convert it back to CAD. Hmm silver coins are not a bad start, but the premiums are rather high.
Hi bro i have a question, especially salaried man like me and wife, i intend to buy 10g every 3 months. My wife works part time so can only afford 1 gram each month. I was thinking for her ,instead of putting it in a bank, just buy 1 gram gold bar every month for the next 2 to 3 years. And then keep it because i feel in long term run,it will be a great savings. Many are against 1 gram but not many can afford 10grams. So for me to buy 1 gram every month for next 2 to 3 years,will that be a good idea or best to avoid?
Hi from Texas. I really enjoy your videos, thank you, very informative. For the purposes of the American consumer… Do you have any tips on buying pre-1933 gold coins?
I dont get "paying the premium for worldwide recognition" because ALL my local gold buyers will only give me spot price irrespective of coin or bar, so the premium paid is a pure loss. I also dont care for bartering with coin buyers trying to recoup my premium I paid on top of the spot price..... So what IS the value of cold coins outside some emotional reason or "collecting" reason?
hmmm well in a SHTF scenario it will be, but personally I would get one ounce coins or 50 g bars and save on the premiums up front. If I need the cash, I will just sell it all, get the cash and then spend over the weeks or months.
@@SeanFooGold I think we have to prepare for the day when cash is worthless too! I can only withdraw $ 500 every fourth day. In Sweden, we are on our way into a real money free society. If I go to the bank and say I do not trust them anymore and want to withdraw my savings, I can not withdraw more than $ 500 every fourth day. What if I have $ 100,000 in my account? It would take over 2 years for me to get the money out and go to the vending machine every four days. It's so bad and it's going to get even worse here in this country.
How much premium is it for gold bars at your local bullion dealers right now? In the video it says, the premium for gold bars is around 3% to 4% but when I check my local reputed bullion dealer, the premium is around 7% to 8%. Is it because the premiums have increased now?
@@SeanFooGold Interesting. In the UK, reputed online bullion dealers are charging 8% and above for 1 oz gold bars. Also, I'm seeing a higher premium for larger gold bars than smaller gold bars. This is strange. I would have expected higher premium on 1 oz gold bar compared to 10 oz gold bar
this should help: www.customs.gov.sg/businesses/importing-goods/import-procedures/importing-investment-precious-metals-ipms/ipms-imported-by-hand-carry
And gold bars comes in many sizes and weight. If you cannot afford to buy the 1 oz, you can also buy the 10gm, 20gm or 30gm for the moment. In Malaysia, if you buy the 1oz which is around $10,000 and use credit card to pay for it, 20 percent extra will be charged.
It can be. I think if you're strictly in it for investment reasons, gold bars would be the way to go. You may only get spot value when you sell it, but the premium you pay can be up to half of gold coins. It's a hedge fund. If you bought 10 oz at $1300 and gold goes up to $2,000 that's a pretty good return even at spot value. It's for the long term
@@go4it129 You obviously do not know what an investment is, as opposed to an asset. Investments pay you to own them, and gold does not. You cannot make money owning gold, only by selling it, therefore it is NOT and investment. The same is true of a house you "own" and live in, vs. one you might buy only to resell. People who imagine that the metal itself is an investment are called "dumb money" for an intelligent reason. Cheers.
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Theres a big difference between paying a 150.00 premium on a gold eagle and a 60.00 premium on a gold bars that hundred dollar difference can buy you 4 ozs of silver
Gold is gold, and bars are a better value. Fakes can be bars or coins. If you buy and sell from and to the popular dealers, you're fine. I made a couple hundred dollars per bar selling back to SD. I will not buy overpriced American and Canadian coins. A good thing about bars is, if they're stolen, you have a serial number.
Agree with you. A lot of fake gold coins is in circulation everywhere but gold bars we buy with authenticy certificate attached telling you the gold you purchased is real.
Both, at the right price. Diversify your stack.
Another great video Sean. I’ve always bought coins, but the last few months been buying 10 oz silver bars.. I have just purchased my first 1 oz gold bar (IGR), waiting to receive it and see how it feels. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Terry!
I just started stacking last year and have primarily been focusing on 1 oz Gold coins. I may add some bars in the future but I prefer coins for now. Thanks for sharing!
Can't go wrong with coins! Thanks for watching Daniel!
At the beginning you will get coins then you will get bored and move to bars
One benefit of the coin is you can balance it on your finger and tap the edge with a pen. Each design and material of coin can have a distinct sound, but once you learn what a kruggerand, canadian maple, or american eagle sounds like, this sound cannot be faked. Since the coins are manufactured with high repeatability, this sound serves as a signature to verify the authenticity when used in combination with basic physical measurements. So no fake coin can pass all four of the following checks: weight, diameter, thickness, acoustic ping. Tungsten can pass the first three but will have an empty thud when tapped. This is the easiest way to verify gold with primitive tools and is the origin of the phrase "sound money".
Good insight!
Learn something new every day!
Another great video, Sean. I am a one ounce Gold Maple stacker. I don't mind paying $13 more With the security features and Worldwide recognition a Gold stacker can't go wrong. Also, the 24k is a benefit for people that live in Countries that tax Gold that falls below .995 purity. Any 24k coin or bar should be always be in a protective capsule.....Why take a chance of a scratch or a dropped coin or bar? I suggest for stackers to stay away from anything that is fractional, the premiums are just too high. Better to save up and buy those one ounce coins!
Exactly Robert. Premiums on 1/10th ounce can actually climb to 30-40%!
I like to diversify and let the premiums and chance take a part in the diversification. 1 oz coins are nice but also quite expensive so especially in times with rising prices it can make good sense to buy when you can. I buy .900 as happily as I by .9999 so last year when my local dealer had a special deal on Austrian 1 Ducat I hit the button and got some at just about the same premium as 1 oz coins - they where even slightly cheaper than 1/10 oz coins despite containing more gold. I don't know about other dealers around the world but at my place dealers tends to give you just about spot when selling. So having fractionals give you more opportunities when selling. I know the war (I mean "special military operation") wasn't happening when you wrote your comment but as things looks now spiced up with c-virus in China we look at rising inflation and dark times ahead. Being able to sell fractionals will allow your reserves to last longer as the moment it's converted to fiat currency it looses its value fast.
I don't plan on selling my PM any time soon though and I can take a significant more of financial disturbance than many others but you'll never know what'll happen. Had you asked me before the "special military operation" begun I'd say such a scenario was very unlikely despite China's zero tolerance for c-virus.
What about if the shit hits the fan don’t you think fractional will be better to barter ?
@@fishmonger6879 Who are you asking? Sure I think it's wise to have a nice balance in your stack. But still I don't extremely small sizes like are wise to stack to a huge extend - for smaller "denominations" we have silver. I have a few 1 grams bars but only 1 I'm keeping - it was the first piece of investment gold I ever bought - the others are for gift occasions and one is already destined to be giftet during the summer at a baptism. Smallest coin I have is 2.02 gram and only one. Then there's 1/10 and 3,44 gram (1 Austrian Ducat). Otherwise it's 20 Francs/Lire and others closer to 1/4 oz. No way I'm stacking 1/10 at dealers premium but if I'm lucky at auction or private deals I'll sure pick em up. But I do stack 1oz too.
To be honest I really dont believe in any scenario where bartering will ever become common. We stackers are a minority - just look at how many people have sold their gold during the last financial crisis - not many have any gold of significance left - let alone real bullion - and in the case of a crisis will people not used to handling gold trust your gold? IMHO not very likely. So by all probability it'll be with a dealer as middleman exchanging to/from inflation hit cash. Also I don't see the gold as a hedge against that. Here you'll do much better by offering your labour and when the crisis is finally over then your gold can give you a nice head start.
But I do hope it's not the case. I stack because it's fun and as a secondary retirement funding in addition to the traditional primary one.
@@fishmonger6879 .999 Gold will be split and weighed. No question about purity. The Spanish would break a "Piece of Eight" down into fractional. They did this for 400 years. No problem.
I believe diversifying in silver is wise. Silver demands more preference in my opinion. During this past year, I decided not to buy any less than 9999 in gold. 999 makes no sense to me anymore. I dislike paying more in premiums on the fractional gold, but I believe it is wise to have fractional gold as well. Right now, I only invest in bars; due to the lower premium. Those are my thoughts. Sean, great video! You don't need my advice, but I think you're doing everything right, I think you'll have 100K Subs by the end of this year for sure. Keep up the good work my friend!
Yup, I started out in silver too! I think it's how many of us first got into precious metals! Haha thanks for the kind words, I'm just taking it step by step and seeing how things go! You too sir!
what is 9999 compared to 999 please explain thanks
Silver is worthless in Asia. If you go to an asian jewelry shop and try to sell silver they will give you a weird look and tell you to go away
I rather buy coins than bars from the bullion stores. Cheaper bars on the secondary market are tempting but am worried of fakes. Another fantastic video, thanks for sharing Sean. Cheers 👍🏻😊
Thanks Georgie! Hmm makes us wonder if it's time to invest in a Sigma Metalytics tester!
Am i right to say any bars or coins at bullion store is authentic?
Both can be faked buy from a good source not individuals
I prefer bars, much lower premiums , easy to diversify and get different size bars , look cooler to me
Canada maple is cheaper than bar and its buy back price is higher than 1 oz bar.. most of the time..
Time to load up on maples, love that coin!
Maples are all I buy. The biggest bang for you're buck. I refuse to pay the crazy premium for AE coins. I've thought about the Austrian philharmonic. Lower premium, yet most likely you'll get above spot when selling
I only my stack maples with the radial lines. It’s easier to convince new and seasoned stackers of its safety than compared to an gold or silver eagle. Being in Canada we pay taxes on anything that’s not .999 so most stay away from buffalos; especially coin shops as they have to charge tax to the seller and who wants to pay taxes on $1750 US when you can buy a maple instead?
Not buffalos but eagles lol
thanks for sharing! yup, I've been hearing that many countries do charge taxes on non-investment grade (99.9%) gold.
I’m not sure there’s a tax on constitutional silver , or 80% in Canada, but there is on jewelry, which is under 999 fine, at least we don’t have that British bullshit VAT tax.
Yea I bought a tube of buffalo ( Sunshine mint) in August, there’s no sales tax.
the British VAT tax is crazy stuff. Never understood why, oh wait, I know, the govt wants their money of course....
In the jurisdiction I live a collection of coins is classified as a consumer good, similar to jewellery, and not as wealth (which bars generally would be). A collection isn't reportable and isn't subject to wealth tax. For long term holding, a collection of coins is much cheaper and much more private than holding bars.
well said!
I prefer bars but Coins have better designs, Just stack both
that's the way!
I just started stacking but I'm loving bars so far...but I haven't bought a coin yet, maybe after I buy my first coin I'll change my mind. I love the Geiger bars
I like pamp bars because of the variscan feature
yep, the new bars allow you to really get that extra security!
Makes lot of sense. Bars are encapsulated and therefore are difficult to examin e.g coin ring test and other simple tests.
Coins are so boring! Bars are the real deal
Very insightful and well researched. Keep it up Sean
Thanks Thomas, glad it helped!
I want it not because of investments. I like it because they are beautiful. 1 gram of coin is happy enough for me. I like gold with cool design. I might like silver more. They are more beautiful.
I like the smaller spreads between the buy price and the sell back price, this applies to silver as well. We can hope to recover some premium paid but it's not guaranteed since we don't know what the future holds. For silver and gold stackers it goes beyond the mind what the valuation is in fiat currencies of their metals stack since they're preparing for a world where fiat currency may not exist! At least for a time period. The central banks are doing their best to conspire with the commercial banks to hold down the valuation of silver and gold in order to keep things under control.
A perfect reason to stack!
I agree and see evidence for gold and silver suppression, but very few people are willing to call it out, even though banks have been fined many times in the past for doing so.
I'm going to start my gold/precious metal collection....starting with a 1oz bar from the royal Canadian mint
that's a good choice, all the best!
Sean there are some things you might want to address. If you are buying in the US you want Eagles as opposed to Maple Leafs? Dealers in the US are going to give you more for your Eagles as opposed to Maple Leafs or Krugerrands upon resale. Also you cannot sell Eagles tax free in Singapore because of the reduced Gold content.
Wow, i had to look that up, but yeah, that’s true about the eagles. But also the Krugerrand? I think they of the same purity as the eagles. Wow, I never thought of these kinds of tax rules. I figured what does it matter the purity. I guess they want to stop jewelry being tax free.
I'd love to get my hands on a kilo bar of gold, platinum or palladium
Great video. The age old question bars or coins? Bars are better you get the most weight for your money. Coins are for fanatics who love design's like collectors and history fanatics plus you pay more coins which is not wise. As far as taxes go I don't understand why people use portfolio's to purchase precious metals and have the government in their business. I refuse to pay taxes on precious metal 🤣 Just buy physical and shut up & keep quiet about it and sell back to a dealer when the time is ready. Or save up and use as collateral for income producing asset like a house and buy back precious metals slowly with real estate revenue rinse wash and repeat.
Good insight! Definitely, precious metals are supposed to be private wealth first and foremost.
My philosophy exactly. You pay money to the Government when you get your paycheck or other things, like Social Security or Pension. Why pay more when you sell?
@@SeanFooGold Correct! PRIVATE wealth!
I prefer coins over bars since they are easier for liquidation.
yup, coins tend to be more liquid, esp the Eagles in America.
Here in South Africa I only stack gold and silver Krugerrands, as it is by far the most popular bullion coin around here, and that gives me peace of mind when time might come to liquidate, and for some reason I just prefer 22k over 24k gold.
Yup, the Gold Krugs are some of the most popular and finest coins around. If I am not wrong, their premiums are also quite low as well!
@@SeanFooGold Jip, the low premiums makes it a perfect investment coin.
I stack what I can by chance. I like to hunt great deals so my stack is quite diversified. But I agree with you. Having lived 3 years of my pre school childhood in South Africa in the 80s (a wonderful time for me back then) my 💓 is also for the Krugerrands. Not that I don't like the national vintage gold coins or others but being the first and original bullion coin imho also counts. What I also love about them is that they don't have an arbitrary low denomination unlike any other bullion - their legal tender value is whatever the gold price is - love that!
Yeah. I started out buying bars. Rushed out to get 2x 100gram when I learned that having gold bars was not only legal but also investment gold is VAT exempt (my parents and "everybody" have been lying) and since then also some smaller 20 grams and the like. Kinda regretted since that but I still have them since it costs to convert them to coins. Should I need large amount liquidated they'll be the first to go.
Now I've switched to coins. Much easier to do when trading privately as they're much easier to verify using inexpensive tools than goldbars (never been fooled in my 10+ years of stacking). I also like to hun the good private deals on markets where you're not likely to expect gold coins to emerge. Often the sellers re not fully aware of what they're selling or there's not a dealer in their area. Of course it's mostly the smaller coins but I've just picked to 2x 1 Ducat and 1x 4 Ducat 15% below my local dealers buy price - too good to not pull the trigger and yes they're genuine (1915 restrikes). Actually they've been on the (mostly fashion) trading site for a long time. But the seller don't know where to sell them so they're just sold along with her clothes and jewelry. For a long period they've been too expensive but as time has gone by two things have happed. Seller lowered her prices while gold price has gone up and since I was in the mood to add to my stack now was as good a time as any other. Not my first choice of coins to stack (prefer Krugerrands and vintage Europeans) but as said I also like to diversify and the price was too nice to ignore.
yup, coins are generally much easier to verify, esp the newer Maples and Britannias. Thanks for sharing!
I live in Turkey and only buy 24kt bars that are minted and registered by the Istanbul mint. I buy from a well-known dealer.
I'm new to purchasing precious metals and today I got hosed. I bought two 1 oz bars of platinum online, I read that purchases over $1500 were not taxable.......but I did not read the fine print........."California politicians and bureaucrats unfortunately impose sales taxes on all order totals under $1,500. Also, all non-coins minted of platinum, palladium, rhodium, and copper -- as well as non-metal items -- are taxed regardless of your order size." Added about $230 to the order. I always have to learn the hard way. California smh
Whoa, didn't know Cali has this weird stipulation. At least you now know! It's a real weird tax on a dollar amount.
If you buy gold bar, the dealer will have to take the bar out of the plastic case to test its authentication. By doing so your gold bar will be deducted a certain amount of dollar for that. However for gold coin when you take it out of a capsule your coin will not be reduced in value 😮. Hate to say it but if you buy gold bar and you will.never get a chance to hold it feel it and when the time you can feel it by taking it out you will be charged premium for that😮
What about if you were to buy flawed, scratched, dinged up Canadian Maples, as an example. They would be a better price and you still get 1 oz of gold.
Would that be a bad investment, hard to sell later?? Thank you Sean!
Hey i found today your channel Very nice work
I have the Pamp Suisse Bars in all sizes
Very nice looking
Thanks! Yup, Pamp bars are very beautiful indeed.
It's well made but safety signs are scarce in today's conditions. Gold is money, there are more security signs on banknotes. The manufacturer did not think about this.
Any US based stackers here that have a comment on they are buying right now? I dont have nay gold yet just silver. I am looking to either get some bars or US mint coins. Being mid 2022, coins are much higher premium i.e AGE's and buffalos. Does anyone have experience in their worth when going to sell lately? It seems like most places are paying over spot for gold eagles or buffs but do you even make the $ back if you had just bought a gold bar and got less back for it but you paid much less. Id like to get some gold but just cant decide in this timeframe whether to go for the cheaper up front bars or stick to the US coins and pay the higher up front cost in hopes I will recoup some of that in the long run.
Thanks for the great content Sean! Just a quick question! Did you know if Canadians that buy coins through banks have to report it to the
Gov? And are all precious metals bought and sold in USD currency? As you did would you recommend starting in buying silver 1 oz coins!
Thanks Sean!!!
Hmm all precious metals are priced in USD, but you will pay in your local currency because your dealer will convert it back to CAD. Hmm silver coins are not a bad start, but the premiums are rather high.
@@SeanFooGold thank you for the prompt reply Sean!!!! Really is appreciated!
I don't think it matters if you're selling 25 years later
yep, in the long term horizon, both bars and coins are good!
I feel that bars are better for jewelry makers and coins are best for the average person.
That's a good point! I'll be creating a video on gold jewelry soon!
Pandas are cute. I think I'm going to buy the coins to wear as a piece of jewelry.
Both! & Pre 33 American gold and silver
Coins is always better, it could have added value because of collecionists and manufacture
Hi bro i have a question, especially salaried man like me and wife, i intend to buy 10g every 3 months. My wife works part time so can only afford 1 gram each month. I was thinking for her ,instead of putting it in a bank, just buy 1 gram gold bar every month for the next 2 to 3 years. And then keep it because i feel in long term run,it will be a great savings. Many are against 1 gram but not many can afford 10grams. So for me to buy 1 gram every month for next 2 to 3 years,will that be a good idea or best to avoid?
If possible go for 2.5 gram, the only reason being it's still within purchase range but long run it'll save ye fiat money required in the meantime
Hi from Texas. I really enjoy your videos, thank you, very informative.
For the purposes of the American consumer… Do you have any tips on buying pre-1933 gold coins?
Never mind, I just watched another one of your videos where you answered my questions pretty much. Thanks again. Lol
no problem, glad it helped!
I only buy coins I think they are harder to fake.
If you only have the ability to pick 1 metal for the next 5 years of stacking .. which would it be - only one
if it's gold vs silver, I'll choose gold. If it's bars vs coins, I'll pick coins.
Sean, love your show and content.
I dont get "paying the premium for worldwide recognition" because ALL my local gold buyers will only give me spot price irrespective of coin or bar, so the premium paid is a pure loss. I also dont care for bartering with coin buyers trying to recoup my premium I paid on top of the spot price.....
So what IS the value of cold coins outside some emotional reason or "collecting" reason?
Counterfeiting USA gold coins is a federal offense. Counterfeiting gold bars is not. For one example
I bought 20 5g bars, in case the paper money is going worthless. It's easier to trade with in a shop than big bars. Is that wise?
hmmm well in a SHTF scenario it will be, but personally I would get one ounce coins or 50 g bars and save on the premiums up front. If I need the cash, I will just sell it all, get the cash and then spend over the weeks or months.
@@SeanFooGold I think we have to prepare for the day when cash is worthless too! I can only withdraw $ 500 every fourth day. In Sweden, we are on our way into a real money free society. If I go to the bank and say I do not trust them anymore and want to withdraw my savings, I can not withdraw more than $ 500 every fourth day. What if I have $ 100,000 in my account? It would take over 2 years for me to get the money out and go to the vending machine every four days. It's so bad and it's going to get even worse here in this country.
@@pushthebutton4602 oh wow, that's crazy, didn't know things are that bad in Sweden!
How much premium is it for gold bars at your local bullion dealers right now?
In the video it says, the premium for gold bars is around 3% to 4% but when I check my local reputed bullion dealer, the premium is around 7% to 8%. Is it because the premiums have increased now?
it could be. Depends on your region and country. Back when this video was filmed, premiums are at 4%. Now it;s around 5% in Singapore.
@@SeanFooGold Interesting. In the UK, reputed online bullion dealers are charging 8% and above for 1 oz gold bars.
Also, I'm seeing a higher premium for larger gold bars than smaller gold bars. This is strange. I would have expected higher premium on 1 oz gold bar compared to 10 oz gold bar
Hi, Any reason why bars are priced higher than coins in Singapore???
Since when is PAMP "generic"?
Technically it isn't, but for the comparison, SD Bullion lumped it as generic as well as a separate category. But PAMP is usually cheaper.
Are APMEX and JMBullion reputable?
Gold coins
Silver bars
if i buy gold when im on holiday and bring them back to singapore, do i need to declare them?
this should help: www.customs.gov.sg/businesses/importing-goods/import-procedures/importing-investment-precious-metals-ipms/ipms-imported-by-hand-carry
@@SeanFooGold Ooo thanks alot!
Hello I heard Mustafa also sell gold In Singapore is it ok to get there?
I've a mix of both long term investment .
Awesome, keeping a mixture is a wise move!
Wow nice
If you look up fake gold bar videos they are always the same dimensions on the front and back but always considerably thicker
I am a gold bar person, there is just something more satisfying holding a gold bar.
And gold bars comes in many sizes and weight. If you cannot afford to buy the 1 oz, you can also buy the 10gm, 20gm or 30gm for the moment. In Malaysia, if you buy the 1oz which is around $10,000 and use credit card to pay for it, 20 percent extra will be charged.
Wow super nice coins ❤❤🙏
Coins*? years N"country,USA*pleasure, meaning of ownership special memories*others strike of, life sauces"thing's, coming Wanderfull*lucky*?🗝️❤️
Coins provide advantages that justify paying a higher premium.
Definitely, coins are great to stack despite the slightly higher premiums
ESTE FRUNZA DE STEJAR DIN ROMANIA SI PE FATA CEALALTA FACETI POZA MEA UNA DINTRE CELE MAI FRUMOASE .
Goldbacks!😀
Government minted coins only for me!
Alot of LCD don't like to buy the bars in the cardboard holders becouse they are faked alot.
Hmm interesting. I believe many LCD prefer coins above all else, can't really blame them though.
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Thanks!
I don't pity this Foo!
Coins 14 karat
AI FACETI SI LUI DANIEL DAIANU UN CARD SI LUI IOHANIS UN CARĎ SA CEDEZE SA DEMISIONEZE PENTRU A FACE CONSILIU DE COROANA .
METAL IS NOT AN INVESTMENT
Huh?
It can be. I think if you're strictly in it for investment reasons, gold bars would be the way to go. You may only get spot value when you sell it, but the premium you pay can be up to half of gold coins. It's a hedge fund. If you bought 10 oz at $1300 and gold goes up to $2,000 that's a pretty good return even at spot value. It's for the long term
@@go4it129 You obviously do not know what an investment is, as opposed to an asset. Investments pay you to own them, and gold does not. You cannot make money owning gold, only by selling it, therefore it is NOT and investment. The same is true of a house you "own" and live in, vs. one you might buy only to resell. People who imagine that the metal itself is an investment are called "dumb money" for an intelligent reason. Cheers.
@@LeadingIndicator Ok then I suggest you don't buy gold. why are even here?
@@go4it129 Certainly NOT for YOUR suggestions. Meanwhile, my AAPL video is premiering as I write this ... check it out.
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Theres a big difference between paying a 150.00 premium on a gold eagle and a 60.00 premium on a gold bars that hundred dollar difference can buy you 4 ozs of silver
Can I send you a email of my bar and coin idk what they are or what they’re worth
Maybe you can post here what weight and brand they are. Current spot price is around $2,000 per ounce or 31.1grams for pure gold.
@@SeanFooGold I wish I could post a picture