The Rise of the Hawthorn Football Club (AFL Mini Documentary)
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- Since their inception in 1925, Hawthorn have become a powerhouse of the AFL. But it was not always like that. This video explores the humble beginnings of Hawthorn in the VFL and later the AFL and the people that helped make Hawthorn one of, if not, the most successful club in the AFL today.
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Great work on this. Would love to see a mini documentary on the legendary three peat era. Beginning with Clarkson in the early 2000s
I think that deserves a video of it's own! I'll put it in the notes for a future video
That is the best short documentary on the hawthorn football club I have seen. You nailed it. Hale to Kennedy to Parkin to jeans to Joyce to Clarkson. Amazing team and the greatest of all.
Thanks Steven, I appreciate your comment!
Jeans The Best Of All Time .
Greatest Australian Football Club of All-Time 💛🤎🦅
💛🤎
@M actually every state loves afl more then soccer
@Gav Mackie yeah
@Gav Mackie triggered? I don’t like people calling out such terms as racists without facts. It has nothing to do with race at all the way I see it but yeah we all have to watch what we say. I just think you are out of line even if it’s in jest.
@Gav Mackie man if so then it happens. We haven’t won a spoon since I’ve been around so that’s a fair while. Rebuild no problems for me, I’ve been around and watched 12 flags so I’ve got patience. Cats are last years winners but it’s going to get ugly real soon looking through that profile. A decade of topping up will bite hard in the end, just as it did to hawthorn after a 3 peat. That was 6 years of topping up. Eventually it ends with the base falls apart and there’s nothing to hold the candles and decorations anymore. Geelong have 12 over 32s. Stewart Cameron are at peak but are 30. Guthrie is 31. There’s a lot of great players about to finish Selwood is a legend and is fine. Hawkins Danger Smith aren’t your average players. You know that I’m sure. Blicavs 32 Stanley 32 I’m not going through them all but you look at their ages. Toohey ect. Hawks are young and if we are going to keep up with Sydney Freo Dogs Blues Lions in the coming years, then take the hit now and keep building young talent. Then you top up as the window arrives. As long as you have that core of quality youngsters you’ll be right for a long time. Cats will be in serious trouble in 12 months but I guess you are smart enough to know this.
This was a fantastic watch! Thanks, great job
Thank you for putting this doco together.
Keep going man, these videos are great, very well put together. Love it.
Glad you like them!
I wonder if there is any other club in the world playing in a salary cap sports competition that are as successful as HFC.
It definitely makes it seem a lot fairer than sports where select few teams dominate
@@flairfooty
Notice tho how a perception of "fairness" doesn't necessarily translate to a healthy competition tho, or indeed even one of a decent standard.
Great video 😊
Cannot wait to see the next edition, be sitting at 13 for a good while
In 1964 Hawthorn had 1 flag to Melbournes 12. In 2015 they overtook the Dees 13 to 12, quite remarkable really. Its like if Freo surpassed Geelong's tally.
Great Doco Please Do one about St Kilda FC The Struggle For Us Loyal Supporters
it won't take long!
Someone send this to Kane Cornes.
Great mini doco, missing the 3 pear era and Clarkson era, but I don’t think that story has been finished yet, I can see premiership success this decade. As good as Clarkson was he really did some damage towards the end of his tenure, disposing of club greats to opposition clubs and recruiting free agents that weren’t as good and dismissed the draft. The torch has been passed now but will be interesting to see what Mitchell can do.
What a club! Go the hawks ❤🦅🦅
Great video! What’s the process with using photos/videos produced by the AFL/Hawthorn? Am just curious as I’ve been thinking about doing some videos of my own. Cheers
Hey mate. There’s no issues using videos from Afl/hawks if They’re short clips. Also if you were make a video like what I did then it would fall under fair use for educational purposes. Although I did get a claim on this video, I am currently disputing it. Hope that helps
GO HAWKS!
Greatest club ever 💛🤎
As a hawthorn fan …… thank you oh thank you thank you
The sooner the current corrupted AFL CEO is gone, the better.....He can then take his pathetic & very public petty vendetta against our club, with him.
It's completely bizarre the kinds of things these lunatics are coming up with.
Accusations mean nothing until proved in a court of law.
Most people forget that the Hawks were always a struggling football club between the 1920s till the late 1950s.
Almost as bad as St Kilda on occasions before they hit success in 1961.
Hawthorn Hawks has great teams is due to the great man , Jack Hale.
My oldest son goes for the hawks he is one eyed hawthorn
Surely it's now time for a video on the Decline of the Hawthorn Football Club. They are now almost certain to go 8 years in a row without winning a Final. 2016 to 2024 has been one of the worst periods on the history of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Spoke too soon...
Go Hawks
They’ll be good this year 👍
Could easily be titled "The rise of the throw"
....for no apparent reason...
Do a vid on stkilda’s success.
Would be a pretty short video 😅
@@flairfooty hell yeah
@@kanewhite2161
You don't understand....what it was like to go to Vic Park, Windy Hill and Princes Park and actually win...it was like winning a final....and this kind of thing made Vfl what it was...and the Wafl and Sanfl. Collingwood won more flags but who'd wanna be them? Or worse still, Carlton? I don't think you geddit...
@@hanajinks1044 what?
@@kanewhite2161
Exactly
Hawthorn is the most successful club from 1960 onwards. Keep in mind that Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon especially, had a 28 year headstart on Hawthorn including premierships. Our great club is great, but we cannot accept being mediocre at any stage. As for the accusations against Alistair Clarkson and Chris Fagan, they are totally unsubstantiated and were melodramaed by the ABC and 9 Media Group especially. Nothing has come of it, these men vehemently denied these accusations from players who didn't make the grade at Hawthorn. Phil Egan, the so called investigator, has now been charged with defrauding Aboriginal organisations in Northern Victoria. The club will return to bigger and better things...we have to pick up a big bodied back and another key forward...I believe we are close to having the mid size talent maybe another there too, but time will tell.
2025-26 we'll be a real finals threat through a good year next year, hoping we can maybe sneak into the 8 who knows
Yeah I think his nickname is Honest Phil 😂
Feel free to re-edit this, now that the allegations have been announced to have been unfounded after two independent investigations. Just a small group of people trying to put a stain on what is the greatest sporting club in the history of Australia.
Aussie rules most premierships tally.
AFL - Hawthorn (5)
VFL - Carlton (15)
SANFL - Port Adelaide (36)
WAFL - Easy Fremantle (29)
NTFL - St Mary's (33)
TFL - North Hobart (27)
*_AFL and VFL are the same league_*
@@TRBCL No they aren't. One is Victorian FL and the other is Australian FL. For example, Hawthorn won the 1991 AFL grand final, not the 1991 VFL grand final.
@@Somchai007 *_Thats like saying Footscray and the Western Bulldogs are different teams. No. The VFL renamed to the AFL. Teams never switched leagues. They’re in the exact same._*
@@TRBCL How many VFL premierships have Hawthorn won?
@@Somchai007 *_The same amount of AFL premierships they have rn. 13._*
Excellent documentary. I would love to see you now do a documentary on the Decline of the Hawthorn Football Club since 2016. Hawthorn has now gone 7 straight seasons without winning a Final. They are now at the beginning of another rebuild and it is highly unlikely that they will win or even make the Finals in the next 3 seasons so that will make it 10 straight years since they have won a final. A huge fall from grace. I would love to know your thoughts on this video that was made in 2020 at a time when Hawthorn was still talking up their Youngsters and saying there were a couple of years away. czcams.com/video/a6YSozV6xow/video.html&ab_channel=FeminismDebunked
Salt
They did one of those in the mid to late 90s and early 00s
You know in between 2 dynasties
A lot of dynasty teams fall away afterwards and Clarkson made some bad calls after 2015 but I think mitchel is capable of winning a final in the next 3 years
@@stevepapas9563 The bookmakers are saying that the Hawks are 3rd Favorite for the wooden spoon this year. The Hawks remind me of St Kilda in 2016 to 2018 very young promising then their coach was sacked.
@@banliveexport325 this year they probably would be 3rd favourite for the spoon. Having one of the hardest fixtures in the league after finishing 16th might have something to do with that but let’s just see were they sit in 9 months time.
You can’t compare st kilda to hawthorn. St kilda have won 1 grand final and lost 6 in 128 years.
No team compares to hawthorns success from 1960 onwards 13 flags from 19 grand finals in 60 years
It’s not luck to have multiple dynasties
Nonsense not ageing well....
Geeezz mate you drunk the cool aid.
no essendon and carlton are the most successful teams in vfl/afl history. what are you on about??
Yes Carlton and Essendon both have 16 Premierships each, but if you look at from when Hawthorn came into the VFL, Essendon had won 4 premierships and Carlton had won 5 already.
from 1925 the premiership tally is
Hawthorn - 13
Essendon - 12
Carlton - 11
Yep you guys won cups with only 9 teams in league! Once all the other clubs joined then cups are much harder to win! So it's true since hawk's joined a new league that has become 18 team with 18 clubs to win just one cup is very hard ? 3 in a row is simply a team far superior to all others! Having to beat other power clubs in cats and swans! Tigers didn't have other power clubs to overcome neither did Melbourne or cats this year! The only reason tigers Dees and cats have won flags is because hawk's got to old! That 3peat team would thrash tigers dees and cats! After loosing the best key forward in modern history buddy we won 2 more flags both by over 10 goals!
Simply the best! 80s team played 7 grand finals in a row then another to make it 8 winning 5! Then you have 60s and 70s! If this does not show who the true most successful club since a full league was built! 9 teams is not a competition! It's a local sport! Now it's national!
Give us a break.If you are going to be selective about which premierships matter and what clubs beat lesser competition, let's look at the reality.Hawthorn was a basket case.The club came within a centimetre of being absorbed by Melbourne.The on field performance was so bad, the Hawks received a number of first and early draft picks.Next came a stroke of incredible good fortune. Gold Coast and GWS joined the league and were allocated a big slice of the first round draft pool for several years.This meant none of the other sixteen clubs were able to pick up top ten players, thus handicapping fifteen of those clubs and giving Hawthorn a massive advantage in player personnel, because, due to their time at the bottom, had been able to fill up with top quality picks
@@petermcculloch4933 hawk's were most successful before the 4 recent cups! Luck had nothing to do with it how did cats build a powerhouse how did swans build powerhouse at same time as hawk's! We were competing for cups at same time! Since 2015 who are the 3 powerhouses clubs fighting for cups??? ONE! tigers how did they build a powerhouse same time as suns and gws getting all the picks? We built our team before suns and gws came Into being! How did hawk's build 80s team? T h e greatest ever? Luck again! Your comment is so filled with bitterness but mainly blind!!!
@@mareewalker1096 I am not bitter.I admire HFC.Infact, I will go so far as to say, the Hawthorn side the club put together in the eighties is the best I have ever seen.Most clubs have a little bit of luck related to their success - injuries, the draw, suspensions etc.Essendons 2000 squad, owed some of their incredible number of wins to poor competition.All I am saying is Hawthorns triple premiership team got a lucky break when they were developing the side, in that Hawthorn picked up some great players in the draft, which was due to their position on the ladder.Then GWS and Gold Coast joined the league and were each given several first round draft picks for a few years.That meant the other clubs could not take the top ranked youngsters and therefore were not as strong as they could have been
Alistair and your offsider.
Hawthorn last finals win was in 2015.
They started the 2016 Season as Flag favorites but failed to win a final.
They then missed the 8 in 2017.
2018 Failed to win a final.
2019 MISSED the finals.
2020 MISSED the finals.
2021 MISSED the finals.
2022 MISSED the finals.
2023 are starting a rebuild after sacking several stars.
I would love to see your take on the Decline of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Are you a geelong fan?
Pi55 off tw@t
@@garthodowd6846 No I am not just stating the facts that after 7 straight years without a Finals win the Hawks are beginning a hard rebuilt which will make it all but impossible for them to make the Finals in the next 3 seasons.
@@FeminismDebunked and ? We all know this,don't come on here and try and pi55 on our cornflakes.
If you don't want to watch this video go elsewhere!
Yeah a 7 year flag drought is terrible isn’t it. Cats took a decade of topping up but I wonder how the list is sitting in 12 months. Pies 13 years since a flag and only 2 in 60 years. Bombers haven’t even played finals for almost 2 decades. Swans a decade ? Blues nearly 3 decades and I could go on and on. Decline 😂😂. The difference between hawthorn and most other clubs, is when they build it turns out to be dynasty time. They get to finals and they strike, unlike many others. Good story though 🙄
Hawks have one every decade since the 60s if history repeats they are going to win in the next 6 years every team declines hawks just don't do it for very long
Thankfully the allegations were proved false.
I have been fortunate see the great seventies teams and then the steamroller eighties teams that produced The Greatest Full Forward Of All Time ( Dunstall) . The the most recent Three Peat ( should have been four ) . But since the kneeling of all of the AFL and Hawthorn bowing to the BLM I canceled my membership and have not watched a game since . The Political State Of The AFL has ruined the game .
I can't respond to this without being very rude.... 🤡
@@karljenkinson3143 Feel Free .
It is time for part 2 The Decline of the Hawthorn Football Club. After 9 Rounds of the 2023 Season, they have won only 1 match. Their last Finals win was in 2015 and their last Finals appearance was in 2018. They are at least 3 years away from being competitive again. This is arguably the greatest fall from grace in VFL/AFL History.
This is hilarious coming from an Adelaide Crows support. Its been 26 years since you guys won your last flag XD
Felt sorry for Adelaide after that goal that was called a point
Bro wtf, "Hawthorne is the most sucsessful AFL team" Geelong and West coast have both also won 4 premierships and both have much more wins than Hawthorne.
Definitely there’s an argument to be had for the most successful afl club. But the hawks make a good argument as they average a premiership every 7 years since their inception and that’s what measures success in AFL
@@flairfooty Then Geelong is still better as they have more premierships lol. All 3 of those clubs have 4 premierships in the AFL era so the next best thing is either top places or sheer amount of wins, which both Geelong and West Coast both smash Hawthorne. dude there is an argument that Hawthorne is the best, but its wrong, you can argue the sky is green all you want but its still factually wrong, they are 3rd at best which is still great.
@@klokar21 the hawks have 5 premierships since the VFL changed to the AFL, so therefore most successful by your logic you clown
@@klokar21 Hawthorn have won 5 premierships since the change to the AFL in 1990, i.e., 1991, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015. Hawthorn has 13 VFL/AFL premierships, Geelong has 10. Not "bagging" the mighty Cats, they are a fantastic team.
Cats aren’t close to hawthorn. Do your math 🙄
Greatest? Maybe top5
Who is better?
@@stevepapas9563 collingwood carlton essendon
It has now been 8 years since Hawthorn Won its Last Final. It think it is now time to do a video on the decline of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Who do you barrack for?
Not ageing well (and quite boring)
@@karljenkinson3143 This year will be the 9th straight year in a row that the Hawks have not won a Final. How is that not a fall from grace?
The greatest sporting clubs are the ones who remain humble with no arrogance after achieving great success..............unfortunately very very few clubs get to this point.
Hawthorn and Richmond have not displayed good traits in recent years, no athlete or sporting organisation is entitled to anything and the world owes them nothing............Hawthorn and Richmond FC don't understand this!
And this is evident how????
And the fall of Hawthorn.
Hawthorn don’t fall for long Laura. I wonder who you follow ?
They’re not the most successful 😂
They have been since they entered the league
A great team but they played 3 interstate teams in their GF wins who barely played at the G. They would have lost 2013 and 2015 without home ground advantage.
Also, Brisbane in 2001-03 would smash them
So by winning against 3 interstate teams is a theory is it. They beat Geelong to get there. They also won a prelim in WA against Freo. So your theory means, that Essendon and Collingwood are pathetic. They got done by Brisbane 3 times between them and pies got beaten by eagles too. It’s ridiculous. If you are good enough to win you’ll win. Hawks 91 beat eagles over there to set it up and cats couldn’t beat eagles anywhere in finals. Crows beat saints and north so what does that mean ? Cats lost to Freo in Geelong. It’s very simple, if you are good enough you’ll win anywhere anytime.
@@stevenprice6957 My point is home ground advantage is a thing. If Hawks had played any of those GF elsewhere I believe they would have only have 2 Premierships for that era. If two teams are similar in list and form, the away team normally has to play twice as good to win.
@@stevenprice6957 and yea the fact Lions won three in a row at the G makes their team the GOAT.
@@jlrob85 didn’t hawthorn win a prelim in WA against Freo after having to go there twice and then reversed it on the eagles when the hawks had no break and the eagles were fresh? Old team hot day eagles were favourites. Swans won in 2012 and hawks beat them after being underdogs in 2014 and smashing them. Freo was meant to be too good for hawthorn in 2013 after everyone watched freos pressure in the prelim., didn’t Geelong lose a home prelim to Freo at Cat land. How many home finals have Port lost in 23 years, ? So Richmond who beat the giants and crows are true winners ? They beat Geelong in a short season short matches so don’t they deserve anything? If you are good enough you’ll win. Eagles beat Collingwood so did Brisbane twice so what does that make Collingwood? Totally useless. Hawks played in 4 in a row and won 3 in a row. That’s amazing. I still call Brisbane the best team of this century winning 3 in a row and never finished top. Cats haven’t won back to back but have been great over a period. Not great in finals to be truthful. I cannot see them winning one for a long time just with their profile of over 32s. Nothing lasts forever. Tigers are no threat despite the media hype. There’s a new wave coming in the names of Melbourne who have already won one, Brisbane who have a younger amazing list swans who because of academy rules will always rebuild quicker than anyone. Carlton have the best spine that hasn’t hit prime yet, Dogs Freo are great young lists. Back to home ground. Eagles showed if you are good enough you’ll win. They’ve done it 4 times. Swans twice. Lions 3 times crows twice. So In 30 years it’s been done 12 times which is 40%. That’s not a bad ratio at all. 8 interstate teams 10 Victorian so chance are they will make it a lot and if good enough will win even against a Collingwood supporter base or Essendon or whoever. How do you know what would have happened elsewhere ? They’ve won twice in big WA finals and were the first team to win interstate in 91 v the eagles. If crows were good enough they beat Richmond, they didn’t they choked and tigers were hungry. Dogs v giants over there did the job after beating eagles over there. Anywhere anytime like Ross Lyon said against the cats at Kardinia. They kick straight early against hawthorn and it could have been different. Gunstan nailed his goals from anywhere and Fyfe and others didn’t. Brisbane beat Melbourne last year and so did Sydney. Swans won interstate plenty of times in finals. If you get on top 4 you are a chance and you need to take your chances.
@@jlrob85 I’m my mind of this century they are the goat. 2 in a row is tough, 3 in a row is incredible. Mathews took a team of super talented kids and taught them a simple style of no frills finals football. Lions were nowhere in 2001 after Essendon had lost something like 2 games in 18 months. He made his team believe when he said of it bleeds we can kill it, they bled they killed it. Amazing stuff. Voss to me is one of the greatest player captains ever. So brutal and when it counted bang he did things then and there. Brown lappin Aker they played great finals football. Never finished first but that simple game plan of go forward at all costs anyway you can, proved to be great. Tigers did things year later that were similar with fast forward football. Cats probably missed a flag or more by having a flawed style for finals. I agree Brisbane hawthorn Geelong Richmond Sydney Eagles in that order this century.