Buying a USED Graphics Card...? The Complete A-Z Guide
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- Buying used graphics card off a crypto miner this year? Whether it be RX 3060, 3070s or 3080s or RX 6600s, and not once have I been scammed. In today's video however I go in-depth on how you can
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00:00 Graphics Cards I recently bought on the Used Market and the prices paid vs new (incredible savings).
01:30 IMMEDIATELY do this when buying used GPUs either locally or online.
02:38 After confirmation, we can then properly test, but before this we need to clean the cards thoroughly.
05:33 Thermal Pads, very important to replace, ESPECIALLY from a miner...
09:20 Before and After, fixing fan noises etc.
09:48 Testing headroom on the GPUs, very important!
11:50 Tricks for buying online vs locally, and how to spot out a potential scam job.
20:50 Question of the Day, Prices Tanking for PC Builders?
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The GTX 950 was just running the matrix which conflicts with windows.
Hey Bryan, great one,as usual!!!
Would you try to oven it (the 950)?
Lol
@@DuneRunnerEnterprises What's the point? He's not going to sell it in that condition anyway.
@@misterx8448
It is content!!!
I've bought 2 used ASUS cards from scammers. Both artifacted and one caused system crashes. ASUS RMA'ed them both and sent me new cards lol. The first one I didn't test until after ripping it apart, cleaning it out with WD 40, and repasting it haha. Best thing to do is check the remaining warranty by looking up the serial number. Then it doesn't matter if they work.
Nice. I picked up an MSI RTX 2080 Super for a great price (around 200 USD) and it was working great until it hit 100% usage then the game would just crash. Didn't matter what game it was as soon as the GPU hit 100% game crashed (not PC though). Went through the RMA process and surprisingly got an RMA number so I'm gonna send it in and see what happens.
What is rma
@@mr.arocenastech let us know
@@strydyrhellzrydyr1345 return warranty
Can you explain that process please? Theres a bunch of used cards entering my region's market, hoping to get some good deals if I can RMA them.
Using this methodology alongside just giving the card a good cleaning, I've "restored" many a mining gpu that displayed flaky behavior. A factory bios flash also doesn't hurt.
Memory almost never degrades as you can't typically push crazy high amounts of current through it. The sliders will stop that from happening and the crashing will also prevent folks from pushing crazy high voltages for extended periods of time even if they flash a new bios. More often than not, it's a contact problem where the super thick pcb transfers a bunch of heat from the gpu and the solder connection gets weaker degrading signal quality. I've reflowed several cards like your 950. Just protect the capacitors, dump a bunch of flux under them, and then spend a solid amount of time heating the card up with a hot air station. Nice and slow. Most of the time the memory chip itself is fine but sometimes the contacts get corroded due to poor manufacturing in which case you need to get a new memory chip. Not sure if you'd ever want to try doing that, but it's always super satisfying when you get something working.
Keep up the great work good sir! Thank you for another in depth video with super valuable info!
The RX 6600 is the best value GPU by a long way at the moment, I'm seeing them for $190-$230 AUD locally used, talking about 2060 super performance on 100W GPU.. insane value.
8gb is kinda limited to 1080p when you want to play future games
@@Gargantura lol no
@@Gargantura GTFOH with the ignorant comments. 8gb is only a limiting factor of you like the 30fps cinematic experience. Otherwise.. it's perfect. Goober smooch.
The 3070 ti had 8gb.. it's twice the performance of a 6600.
@@Gargantura Based on what data?
Grabbed a mining 6700xt for 220,- Stress tested it with Furmark with mem OC to make sure it's stable and everything works flawlessly, all temps in check. Boost like it supposed to do past 2600mhz. What a deal, so happy. :D
You and randomgamingHD are my go to for hardware videos. Keep up the amazing work as always. ❤
RGHD is the Goat for low tier hardware shenanigans.
Both of them make videos about hardware most people can actually afford.
@@KimBoKastekniv47 4090 reviews are interesting but also just make me sad. 0.01% of gamers can afford(or willing to spend) the price. Of course we have the money but it's extra insanely irresponsible.
@@christophermullins7163 Yep, honestly surprised that the comments on those videos are itching for a 4090/7900 when a 3090/6900 is good for at least 5 years, at least I would(now with an RX 6600).
I was excited to see your RX 6600 find🤟
Thanks for the testing and awesome info!
Always love to watch used gravis cards guides
I am glad I made productive decisions about
my finances that changed my life forever. I am a single mother living in Vancouver Canada, bought
my second house in September and hoping to retire next year at 50 if things keep going smoothly for me
Making it out at a young age is quite difficult. I started a side hustle at 17, saved up and made some good investments. l'm 28,live on my own and having a good life for myself. Big ups to you and everyone out there trying
Sounds like plan, how do you put money to work?
Thanks for replying me, I've heard so many people talk about investment but none had said how to do it right.
Am hoping on you can explain more on how you make extra income from investments
Financial freedom is absolutely the perfect freedom
You are a tech yes inspiration! thanks for saving me money on my first build and for all the tips! Keep up the revolutionary work!
Great content and love the channel! Keep up the good work.
Yep, I always sold my GPU's showing them working in my secondary system with a benchmark running because that gives safety to me and the buyer because there is no doubt in what condition it was sold. So far I didn't get hosed and I didn't hose anybody either.
Lots of work, 1-2 hrs, cleaning, and testing, after cleaning and re-padding and thermal pasting, ALL of them better than the USeD originals. I think it's quite difficult to buy at the prices you indicated esp. in Melb.
Tell me about it, here in the UK you're looking at +100% the prices second hand that Bryan gets!
I really enjoy your channel, always very interesting content. Keep at it!
Love the content. My 3 year old Rx 590 8GB is still going strong with liquid metal and after market cooler. 👍
Brian, you are back in Auz, exercise Outside dude!. Fresh air and Sun!. Great videos, Thanks matey.
hey Brian I found why your rx580s have problems
it's because they have mining bios wich is uses tighter VRAM timings to increase hashrate
the fix is to flash the original bios
Is there a guide for this
Ohhhhhh
5/10 guide
you mostly instructed what to do AFTER we already buy it
what's more important is BEFORE (when at seller's place, checking the card out); what to look for, check fans, noise, ask for benchmarks, which software etc...
I got one from this video: before buying it, when going to the seller's house to see the card in action, make sure to check that drivers are up to date
also, zero mention of BIOS flash.
Ah yes, finally something to watch that's both entertaining and informative.
great video. i just picked up a 2060s FE for 175$ usd from ebay and picked it up local. I got super lucky and scored this card from a gamer. its basically mint condition and i just love the look of the 2000 series FE cards. Im pairing it with a 5600 cpu i got for 118$ usd on cyber monday. My buddys pc is way over due for and upgrade and hes a 1080p gamer. I cant wait to see what his new pc can do with these two new upgrades. I just have to update his AM4 MB bios and its off to the races! Keep up the good content and make that money! I do basically what you do just because i really enjoy building and refurbishing pcs and pc parts. Cheers man.. ✌
I got that same cpu deal. Gonna pair it with my 2080 super
@Juri V I have a pc with a 3060ti and it’s a 1440p machine! Highly recommended for 1440p plus it will pair really well with the 5700x..👍🏼👍🏼
Very satisfying watching you strip the cards sped up! 🙂
Finally took my first used hardware steps! Just got a primo super well kept 5700xt for $135 US. Checks out fine so far, but still need to open up.
I find it interesting that you go the route of meeting people at their houses. I understand that approach, and can see how it would give you more recourse if something goes wrong. I generally like to meet people in public for safety reasons, accepting that there might be other risk associated with that.
Man, these are some great prices! I just bought the 1660 Palit Gaming OC for 120 Euros, which is a pretty nifty deal around here in Austria. Thanks for the fun, Sir!
Great video as always with some great real world tips.
Asking to see the card working and meeting at their home is something I always do now. I might miss out on some deals but the amount of scammers is on the increase with the worsening economic environment. Although eBay is more expensive some deals can be had if you look for auctions ending at odd times during the working day.
Do you have a guide on removing the GPU fans ? Sometimes a lot of dust gets caught under the fans.
@@eye776 Thanks for the info, I have a 1060 3gb that I need to do a full clean on. The seller said "it's a bit dusty", worst I've ever seen :)
Think i got myself an ABSOLUTE TECH YES FIND, ended up grabbing myself a Zotac GTX 1070 for £50 (AUD$90) with cooling issues. Nice new thermal paste and its all set.
Also grabbed an older Inno3d GTX 1060 6GB for £25 (AUD$45) with faulty fans and corrosion across the heatsink pipes and motherboard. previous person said it was untested as it gave no power. definitely looks beat up but i gave it the best cleaning i could do and brought the best life it could have back into it. so far running okay with decent headroom on overclocking. seems like its a pretty solid card (for now)
This channel defo has inspired me to go look for the best deals when it comes to gaming on a budget. Thank you Bryan
Great public service work as always man. Be careful for the scammers guys, especially these days. If it seems to good to be true, it is.
about wolf ticket protocol, You could also ask for a recent photo of the card doing a benchmark before you go all the way to pick it up.
You are so correct. the last 6 months the profit margins on used pc market has really tightened up.
Nice video, did not know about the msi afterburner sliders test. I just bought a 580 and this would have helped a lot if I had found it before. I was fooled by the seller.I did not open the card.He assured me like 10 times everything was fine. Brought it home. Opened the card to change the thermal paste and saw a broken support underneath the fans. Bad luck. Even though I know his house I try to avoid those trouble : (
On the recommendation of The Tech Yes Man,
5 years ago, I got into used-PC flipping. I'm not trying to make money, it's just an absolute joy. I've build over 100 PC's. And these tips are gold. Have never run into brittle thermal pads. But if it happens, it's an easy fix. All considered.
MSI afterburner, instead of using the slide to change the values, you can click on the box and enter '150' with your keyboard. Cheers.
The Tech YES Studio is BACK!
Highly engaging!
Best local deals I've grabbed this month: HP prebuilt with R7 1700, 16gigs DDR4, 1tb HDD - $100 USD ---&--- MSI 2070S, NZXT H510, 2x NZXT fans, 4x Noctua fans - $200 USD ------- That HP prebuilt got an NVME boot drive and a 1650S then paired with a basic monitor/keyboard/mouse and sold for $450. The 2070S, case, and fans are going into a commissioned built with a price of $1200 (already paid for, waiting on more parts to be delivered). ------- From what I'm seeing in my area, it seems like a lot of the best deals are coming from complete systems or package deals. Likely because people are currently doing full system upgrades.
You just saved my day mah brother. Which size thermalpad did you use on the 1070 Gigabyte Mini?
bruh talk about timing, i bought a used graphics card online two days ago and it's on its way to my house. nicely done video mate
Hey Bryan! Could you look into exporting/selling Multi-Purpose Spray in the US? I bet several of your Tech YES Citizens abroad would love to buy some.
Thanks for this info. One thing tho, I had seen a comment mentioned in a GPU for sale, where the seller was questioned had they maxed the ram speed while mining. So it seems, undervolting for the GPU core is common, so the miner saves costs on electricity.
However they will max push the vram to its max to pump through the number crunching.
So that being said;
Do we want to ask more about the whats the max stable speed of the vram over the gpu core, in terms of importance?
A reflow might be able to fix that one. Looks like just bag BGA connection to GPU or mem. Use a decent thermometer and cook at 200-210c for up to10 mins, making sure to protect caps and connectors from radiant heat. Trick is to keep the electrolyte from boiling. The rest can take it. Can't really hurt it any more anyway, right?
Did just that to a GTX 560 with similar looking problem years ago, even popped a cap cause I didn't cover them, and it still worked fine.
Could even go by eye. Just watch the stickers. Should be done when they start to darken.
Brian bro.
I just bought a EVGA 3070 FTW Ultra.
I want to test it with after burner ect as it 2nd hand. What specs / ratings should i expect to get for it on after burner if its good? or bad?
Thank you.
Will it be wise to make a gaming and editing pc via x79 with e5 2650 v2 and rx580 graphics in 2022??need an expert suggestions before doing it.
Did you use an underware to clean the GPU bro! Because it certainly looked like one 🤪 at 8.53
Have you heard of nVidia MATS and MODS software? It was leaked nVidia internal testing software from the factory. I found out about it from a place on eBay that fixes graphics cards. You'll find it online. Has to be booted from a USB stick.
How do you get rid of the oily residue that is left by WD-40?
Brian, be careful driving on the left side of the road...Sheesh that is scaring the phuck out of me!!! 🤣😂🤣😂
Here is a tip for you.. one of the best deals I found was during the last peak in mining profit(2020). I got a full tower 7700 i7, 16gb ddr4, gtx 1080, 850watt EVGA, 500gb ssd for $250.. if you know the prices of GPU during the peak you know that is an amazing deal.
What happened is, I found an ad on Facebook Market where the specs of the system were in an image several images back. The specs were not typed into the description so this ad would not show up in a search for "gtx" etc. This allowed the PC to go unnoticed by miners and I scored BIG. This PC was being sold by a traveling VR company. The system only had 50hours of use when I purchased and based on it's condition, this seemed accurate. The card is running strong years later and the slider have something like +175 and +475 with no additional voltage.
I have always searched for these deals and have never spent but around half of the current fair market value of any particular price of hardware for the last 15 years. This does not include my zen3 5600 b450 I recently purchased for $200 from microcenter. I couldn't pass that deal up.
Cheers.
Stole that 1080! If you know the market and monitor closely, no matter the product you can get some amazing deals. Bought the cheapest BMW X5 sports in Australia years ago. Loved that car.
@@laowai2000 8 months ago I snagged a new open box 6950 XT reference for $420.
The OC headroom concern can be valid for sure. But I think some cards can be misleading. For example the gtx 1080ti. Some of the AIB cards were clocked super high, near the point of instability (zotac amp extreme for example). +25mhz core would start to become unstable in some titles. Other cards like a gigabyte turbo 1080ti could OC a lot more as both cards seems to max out near the same core clock, but the gigabyte card was clocked lower. So OC headroom would be good to look at in related to the actual core clock being achieved
This is why I dislike the way clock targets are shown in Afterburner as an offset rather than absolute value - quite a few people seem to compare offsets which is meaningless unless comparing to an identical SKU with the AIBs all running their own custom clocks
@@tourmaline07 yes exactly!
Which is more important to replace thermal pads or T.paste?
Love it! Bought a near new 6600XT today for $300 ran csgo works mint.
Follow up video on the GTX 950 please!
About to pick up an rx 5500xt for 100 AUD tomorrow, so this will really come in handy!
Nice finds, picked up a 1660TI for 100 bucks today, should I be expecting better performance then from my old rx 580 4gb?
Great videos btw!
You should get 35% or more better performance (depending on your cpu of course)
How do you quickly find the correct thickness of thermal pads?
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7:59 what tissue did you use? Is it disinfectant cloth?
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You lost me on "send it back if there's no headroom". If I sell a card on eBay that works fine at stock settings, it's not *my* problem if you can't overclock it. Which I may never even have tried to do! I'd be angry if you used that as an excuse for returning it, a process which would waste my time bigly. If you demand headroom, contact the seller first.
I never bought a PC part used. I see some good local GPU deals that state "Can be tested on the spot" -- i.e. when meeting in person. What does that mean? Does the seller show the card working or do I have to bring my own PC (lol) and test it there?
Hey Brian, what are your thoughts or tips on dealing with people who price their GPUs as if it's still the height of the crypto boom? Stupidly over inflated prices. Should I just make an initial offer that's way closer to what the market really is for that card? Can I use evidence from places like ebay?
yeah definitely! No harm in putting in an offer!
Seller wanted $175 usd for a msi 1070ti and I was able to talk him down to $110, definitely doesn’t hurt to ask.
As a Canadian, I'm basically limited to deals within my country because shipping from the States is so expensive. With that being said, some cards within Canada are still very well-priced, and it seems that free shipping is common. I guess a lot of sellers live up to the stereotype
Hello Brian
Could you make a video about Electric Blower which you have recommended from Ali?
I see that you are still using DataVac from old days. Maybe some comparison between this Electric Blower and DataVac.
How does your wipes not snag on the 'spikes' of the pcb? Every time I clean, that's my number one annoyance.
If I don't want to use a blower or pressurised can, are there any recommendations for a mini vacuum or something?
Great job.
When I got my 970 locally, we tested it at sellers home (in furmark) only after we took it out, and I went home... (not everyone wants to do that, but it's the best way)
I bought a gpu recently it had a graphics glitches kind of like the 950 I just loosened the hdmi cable a bit it worked. If it was plugged in all the way it wouldn't work. Other ports were fine. Not ideal but was just happy it wasn't totally broken.
seriously, these prices are just a dream here in Germany. a gtx 1660 super for ~80€? not even a faulty one
Bought a second hand 6700xt a while back, tried to open and clean it up and got a stripped screw(was covered with a white sticker) that wont loosen up. The card works but I guess next time I’ll check the screws first…
Returning a used GPU on the basis of little overclocking "headroom" is unreasonable.
I've bought brand-new cards from local retailers that crash with just a +25 MHz core overclock, but run perfectly at stock (and for YEARS after). They are binned like this for a reason, from factory.
You don't buy a lottery ticket, and then request your money back on the basis that you didn't win, when there was a chance to win.
Try change the faulty vram. It would be awesome if you try to do some GPU repair.
Bryan i got a old card on my main pc its a RX 550 /550 4 gig and since i bought it the fans never come on only to start then there off i run it for hours and hours never gets hot probably ? why is that do you know i always wanted to know im using a Ryzen 7 3700x 16gig 3200 ram lots fans inside to so why does the fan on the GPU never come on ?
I can put +200mhz in my memory clock on an rx 590 that I bought used. But even if input +50mhz at the core clock it crashes instantly in stock voltage. Does that mean my videocard does not jave much juice left?
What are your thoughts on buying through Ebay? My local market is basically nil
you know whats the problem with my Zotac GTX 950 AMP! the fans always spin even in idle
what kind of apps did you used to test , one of them is msi afterburner . What name of another one ?
Hey. Any other tip on which thermal pads to buy?
Thank you
love the TECH YES content
Hi bro can you please review the most sold graphic card from aliexpress Mingzhou rx 580 8g pls
Can you please tell me what site you used to find that 6600.. or any of the cards really.. thanx
What is the name of the packets that used to pack graphic cards ? i need to know 🙂
Can I return the card after I have opened it and cleaned and it ends up not running well?
Hey Brian, I recently got into flipping and was wondering, do you think that running gpu benchmarks is enough to ensure the PC can run well enough or should I run many gaming titles instead?
I'd suggest something like OCCT that you can run a battery of tests on both CPU, RAM, and GPU. I find sometimes Prime95 will catch memory errors that OCCT misses though.
Shame the NZ prices are still too high. I hope Tech Yes City does a NZ part hunt one day!
There have been some pretty good deals on mid range to high end gpu's used on fb market place but everything else is to expensive better of buying overseas.
That is not only NZ problem, in Austria it is the same. There were some good deals after Black Friday but right now the prices are still to high and you have to be very fast.
can't buy the Multi-Purpose spray anymore, what can we use instead?
What was the song please that really tickles my brain!
Wow the prices are way higher in France ! Like twice. I'm sure it'll come down but it might take 6 months or more
MSI Gaming X GTX1000 series cards use *1.5mm* pads for the VRAM.
Those prices are crazy nothing like we have in the UK.
0:30 Tech YES Linus!
I have a question. I just picked up a mined-on 3060 ti for cheap, still under warranty til march 2024.
The problem is when the PC is on screen inactivity timeout (windows automatically shuts off monitor) occasionally when I try to wake the display with mouse/keyboard it still received no signal, so the screen stays off but windows is running, just no display. Whenever I try to wake the display and failed that there's a "device disconnected" chime from windows. The only solution is to disconnect and reconnect the display port cable so windows "re-detects" the display. I know this is a minor gripe and I could just easily disable screen timeout altogether, but I'm just concerned it's a bad sign that could lead to more problems in the long run. Apart from this one issue the card runs fine, temps are normal and it passed stress tests with flying colors even with +300mhz on the memory clock. (I used unigine superposition 8K optimized, GPUmemtest and Timespy extreme in multiple loops each) it also handles prolonged gaming sessions like a champ.
Have someone else encountered this kind of behavior from nvidia cards? Because my other card is a radeon one (6600 XT) and it never had this kind of problem. Could the problem be software related like a BIOS/Driver one or could it be a hardware-related one and should I RMA it? (The return window from the local online marketplace where I bought this has expired, so there's no way I can send it back)
Thanks! I'm at a loss at this point any insight would be greatly appreciated
Hi Kevin. This is a problem solved through a registry setting and a Power Plan modification. To fix, you'll need to edit Windows Registry > Press Win +R and type Regedit > then search for Hardware Current Control Set > NOW this is a little more difficult because the finder can't locate these long strings, hit F3 the paste this string: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CurrentControlSet > Control > Power > PowerSettings > 238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20 > 7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0
That 's the string to find. Next
It is faster for me to step though the hives by hand, tho.. Read the text at the right hand side for C8F20, open that one then find aaca0. Once you're in aaca0 select Modify and change the "attribute" entry to 2. That's it for the Registry, hit save and exit. Now, in a command window (Win+R) open Control Panel, then System and Security, click on Power Options, Select Advanced - it's a just blue text link there, that will pop open a dialog window with a set of + signs >Open the pluses and read the entries.
You want longer times for power, so select a few to change and test. Items on the PCIE bus may need to be higher. You're using this interface to set values to drivers -- regedit can do that but Windows team kept this box active instead of updating via the registry, it is a bit clunky. Once the new values are written you might have it solved , but keep up with any changes so you know which to try next.
I have never had this fail, it does work, I've used it at least 50 times but I don't remember precisely which settings I change., it will go well once you get the timeouts adjusted. Best!!
@@SISSYPUSS Hi! Thanks a ton for the reply, I managed to edit the registry value just fine but got lost in the power settings in control panel. Did you mean the "change advanced power settings" that you can adjust on specific power plan setting? The settings that I found from the drop-down list for PCIe bus is only the setting for link state power management, with the options being "off", "moderate power savings", and "maximum power savings" is this the correct one to change? Oh and btw I'm on windows 11 22H2
@@kevinchristian3984 The link state for PCI should be - Moderate Power Savings, . Few others - Intel Graphics = Balanced, Ssytem Unattended Sleep timeout - 8, Sleep timer after - 10, Hibernate - never, Processor - min 5%, max - 100%, Display Off -after 5min, USB Selective Suspend - Enabled, Allow wake timers - enable, Multimedia - Prevent idling to sleep, Video Playback quality bias - Video Playback - Performance, When Playing Video - Optimize video quality. Same windows build, that's the list on this pc.
geeez my pc has gtx 560 runs like new with my old i3 does whats need in my family life great videos
hay Tech yes city i got a video card im hoping you might be able to pull a merical and you can get it working where do i send it to ect
thanks mate its a rtx 2070 super it was given to me to replace the spud of a GPU i have atm can you help mate
didnt know that gpu can still be faulty once you install the drivers, bought a used xfx qick 6700xt for $290 on a local store, see the bios ver and stress test it and it was all good (i guess?), but i don't think the drivers are installed while doing that, they provide warranty for a year at least i just cant help but feel paranoid lols
Gotta say, that if I had a GPU that was working perfectly in my machine and I sold it, and then the buyer came back and said it doesn't have enough overclock headroom and it might fail, I'd be telling them to go take a jump. I've always tested cards with Superposition or similar, and if it runs that multiple times ok then it's good imo.
Yeah i agree. Sometimes it's completely luck of the draw if a card will have decent oc headroom or not, even when it's brand new or taken good care of. I still think it's smart to try the card yourself before you buy so you can make an informed choice if you want it or not, but I don't think its ethical to demand your money back if you cant push the clocks as high as you wanted to on some guy's used gpu.
I don’t think that not having much wiggle room on the sliders necessarily means they are failing. I’ve had new cards with barely any OC room while others have a lot. It is just how the silicon lottery works. It could mean they are failing but it could just mean it was a bad chip that just managed to pass QC at the factory.
I was about to comment that, very bold claim here. I don't know why he said that. But it has indeed to do with silicon lottery. For example, if I had bought a brand new card and I don't have much wiggle room, according to that logic it should have little life left. That makes no sense. However, I think he said that because it can have to do with degrading. But that has to be over a long period of time. Not just one or close to 2 years. Unless very heavily abused.
@@glorfindel4945 He said it because that's his excuse for sending the card back when it doesn't OC like he wants. He lost the silicone lottery and can't handle that. It's a lame excuse and not fair to the seller
what driver to miners use? is it any different than a gaming driver?
one tip i could share is to have an agreement with the seller to have a 7 days "personal warranty" so the excuse "it was working when i last tested it" is worked around.
I don't understand why the headroom has to do with if it breaks, isn't that just a chip lotto?