well from experience, notice how bright and shiny new those gloves looked at the beginning of the video and what they looked like at the end, now image doing it in freezing rain in the dark with everything covered with frozen slush and road ice.
I've been there and done that many times over the years I worked for Big R. Unless the weather was foul, I actually got to where I enjoyed the challenge and seeing the job done successfully and safely. I took my time and did it right and safe, because what was the hurry since I was union and on the clock. It was a very good job.
Wow! I remember passing a truck a couple years ago and thinking, " why the hell does that tractor have two fifth wheels?!?" I had no idea it was the Jiflocks system. That's pretty cool!
I hated doing this at Big R, never failed it was raining or in the snow when I had to do it! Matter a fact I hated working at Roadway, jump seat no matter where we went. Glad I went to UPS and finished my Teamster pension out...retired after 45 yrs accident free. Thank you Lord!!!
Worked for a Ruan service center during and after diesel college. There was a really small Roadway terminal in our town, and we worked on their equipment. White/GMC trucks with air started 6v-53's, air assist steering, and Jifflox units. Loved the Screamin' Jimmies, but the rest of those trucks were garbage. 6 speed transmissions, and geared to climb a tree. I don't think most of those would do 50. Then they had some antique as heck LCF? Ford cabovers. Kind of like the old beverage trucks of the day. Those anemic bastards had 3208 Cats in them. Again, more garbage. But the union hands driving them didn't care. Smiled all the way to the bank on payday.......
i was a mechanic at roadway. We had the small ford "pumpkin" city trucks, but the ones i worked on had 8.2 liter detroits. I only saw 6v92 engines in the whites, until we converted them to series 60
To slide the 5th wheel back onto the jiff, remove all pins from 5th wheel plate then put tractor in reverse then tap the brakes ever so gently and bam there she goes, then re-insert the pins to secure the 5th wheel onto the Jiff. Just a tip from the pros...RFLOL
@@kiprandom7208 I would get sent to the rail (X16) and every other trip was to pick up a long box, you get familiar with the shortcuts...LOL Eventually I would just ask for a list of trailers that need taken to 832 or where ever, then I would grab all the long boxes or all the sets of doubles. Instead of all that making and breaking down of the tractor.
Buying ill conceived equipment like this is why company's fail. The delay time needed to accomplish all this by a unionized driver, or yard men in the middle of an Ohio winter no less, would destroy most trucking companies already operating at the margins to begin with.
Wow! I drove for conway freight briefly back in 2010 and our dollys were nothing like this. These dollys suck, you literally have to go through so many steps!
i love how at the end they say double 28s are the most efficient setup. the labour and maintenance that goes into running those have been astronomical. nowadays its all about the 53 footers. only keep a few pups on hand and run them only as singles in the inner city. 53s everywhere else.
I hated the Macs, they were horrible to drive. The newer style Macs seemed like they floated or were lofty going doing the road. The older Macs were just too loud and the ole Kysor a/c unit in the middle of the cab would freeze your right elbow and arm...LOL
This driver had to deal with this in rain and snow and then get back in the cab and drive hundreds of miles and then deal with procedure all over again on another via, or maybe two or three via,s, before he gets home.
The jiffs were designed to humiliate and humble the Roadway drivers. The smart drivers made a killing on this idiotic procedure, god bless the smart drivers!
one of these days someone is going to come up with expandable/collapsible trailers and save the world from doing 50% of the backing/loading/unloading/hooking/unhooking/plugging/unplugging.
I never saw a nice Roadway tractor and trailers like the ones here . The companies I worked for did not use Jiff Lock converters but drivers for companies that did said they were a pain in the ass also a pain in the back as they caused a rough ride. I have 0 personal experience with them so just passing on 3rd hand opinions.
Can you believe they actually thought this was a good idea back then? By the time you do this in the middle of the night in snow or ice it's got to be over an hour. Crazy. If you make a mistake you're in big trouble. And you should cross the chains. It's safer. And I love the driver using the grease gloves to touch everything. Funny. That perfect uniform would be full of grease by the time you get done with all of this. The guy might as well wear coveralls and dedicate 2 hours to fucking with this crazy system. It couldn't have saved money because the accidents and workman comp claims must have been very high. Why are people so short sighted, stupid and cheap?
Jifflox don't exist anymore. Everything they say in the video about moving 5th wheels and all these pins you have to remove and replace doesn't happen anymore. So only like 1/4 of the video actually applies to modern doubles.
My God, can you imagine the new crop of steering wheel holders out in the rain, doing this- In knee- shorts and flip-flops, while holding their I-Phones ????
Looks over engineered and anything that is over engineered usually screws up in the long run and is a pain in the butt I couldn’t imagine it doing it in the winterOr when the system is worn
Remember. You are seeing this video on a bright sunny day. These drivers had to deal with this in the middle of cold a cold winter night.
yeah and its a brand new dolly and truck too
@@freightdawg6762lol I had noticed this too, how clean & shiny the equipment is.
well from experience, notice how bright and shiny new those gloves looked at the beginning of the video and what they looked like at the end, now image doing it in freezing rain in the dark with everything covered with frozen slush and road ice.
@@1982jeepcj8 Retired Teamster. Been there done that (-;
I've been there and done that many times over the years I worked for Big R. Unless the weather was foul, I actually got to where I enjoyed the challenge and seeing the job done successfully and safely. I took my time and did it right and safe, because what was the hurry since I was union and on the clock. It was a very good job.
Wow! I remember passing a truck a couple years ago and thinking, " why the hell does that tractor have two fifth wheels?!?" I had no idea it was the Jiflocks system. That's pretty cool!
This Sucks
I hated doing this at Big R, never failed it was raining or in the snow when I had to do it! Matter a fact I hated working at Roadway, jump seat no matter where we went. Glad I went to UPS and finished my Teamster pension out...retired after 45 yrs accident free. Thank you Lord!!!
Worked for a Ruan service center during and after diesel college. There was a really small Roadway terminal in our town, and we worked on their equipment. White/GMC trucks with air started 6v-53's, air assist steering, and Jifflox units. Loved the Screamin' Jimmies, but the rest of those trucks were garbage. 6 speed transmissions, and geared to climb a tree. I don't think most of those would do 50. Then they had some antique as heck LCF? Ford cabovers. Kind of like the old beverage trucks of the day. Those anemic bastards had 3208 Cats in them. Again, more garbage. But the union hands driving them didn't care. Smiled all the way to the bank on payday.......
Ken Worth I work in a small yellow roadway terminal and yes the trucks are still junk and yes they're geared to climb a tree LOL
i was a mechanic at roadway. We had the small ford "pumpkin" city trucks, but the ones i worked on had 8.2 liter detroits. I only saw 6v92 engines in the whites, until we converted them to series 60
They had this setup for P.I.E.; their Kenworth K100s and Freightliner FLB cabovers used jifflox.
To slide the 5th wheel back onto the jiff, remove all pins from 5th wheel plate then put tractor in reverse then tap the brakes ever so gently and bam there she goes, then re-insert the pins to secure the 5th wheel onto the Jiff. Just a tip from the pros...RFLOL
Proper textbook procedure vs practical application
@@kiprandom7208 I would get sent to the rail (X16) and every other trip was to pick up a long box, you get familiar with the shortcuts...LOL Eventually I would just ask for a list of trailers that need taken to 832 or where ever, then I would grab all the long boxes or all the sets of doubles. Instead of all that making and breaking down of the tractor.
Buying ill conceived equipment like this is why company's fail. The delay time needed to accomplish all this by a unionized driver, or yard men in the middle of an Ohio winter no less, would destroy most trucking companies already operating at the margins to begin with.
This is very cool! I'm proud to say that I know how to build and break down a set!
Wow! I drove for conway freight briefly back in 2010 and our dollys were nothing like this. These dollys suck, you literally have to go through so many steps!
All of this in rain and snow in the middle of the night.
Yep .... and in the dark on a lot full of big potholes too. The good ole days. LOL. I wish I had it so easy as the guy in this video has it.
What an inefficient setup. I currently do LTL and a big hell no to that.
It never rained at a Big R terminal.
Idk squat about hooking up doubles but to me this seems way more of a hassle vs when I've watched other drivers hook up doubles. Idk.
What a great company before yellow fucked it all up
Thank GOD for the Teamsters!
M Mahtnart teamster did nothing for us with Covid 19 in Hollywood!!! They haven’t helped us one bit
Great idea at the time as to make the most use of a single axle tractor.
I've got an Overnite training video saved somewhere of them doing this. Took them a LOT longer toove the 5th wheels into place.
I was a yard hosler at 827 Burbank, Ca.The last two years before i retired.I was a driver from 1980 to 201.
I'm sure we crossed paths or atleast shared the breakroom or you hooked a set for me during your tenure at Roadway. I was a LineHaul driver (820/830).
Yepp that was me !! Roadway 15 yrs
i love how at the end they say double 28s are the most efficient setup. the labour and maintenance that goes into running those have been astronomical. nowadays its all about the 53 footers. only keep a few pups on hand and run them only as singles in the inner city. 53s everywhere else.
I had completely forgotten about this setup
I could break down from hauling a 48Ft. trailer to a completed set hooked in a lil under 20 minutes...lol
I always liked the roadway Mack's
I hated the Macs, they were horrible to drive. The newer style Macs seemed like they floated or were lofty going doing the road. The older Macs were just too loud and the ole Kysor a/c unit in the middle of the cab would freeze your right elbow and arm...LOL
This driver had to deal with this in rain and snow and then get back in the cab and drive hundreds of miles and then deal with procedure all over again on another via, or maybe two or three via,s, before he gets home.
The jiffs were designed to humiliate and humble the Roadway drivers. The smart drivers made a killing on this idiotic procedure, god bless the smart drivers!
Took forever at the Chicago rail yards with a converter dolly $$$$$$$
@@douglasschwart2622 Been to South Chicago many times for ABF. I drove city for Roadway in the late 90's in the DFW area. Always hated the con-gears.
Boy I bet that sucked in the winter time , ice snow and all that road grim all over the frame ..
A regular 5th wheel greaser party. YRC got rid of all of them!
@@user-bc6ok1yh4s lol, you could always tell who the casuals were (atleast for LineHaul), they were covered in grease...RFLOL
Wow, glad we don't have to all this stuff nowadays
Yes you are! A lot of drivers stayed away from Roadway back in the day due to these famous jiff dogs.
There was a reason they were the only company using this worthless configeration. I hooked up many of these in the late 90's.
try until I left in 2012
Well I can probably say it been there done that work with big r in Dallas Texas relay 511
Don't forget the tee shirt part of this saying😁
HORRIBLE for a driver to deal with!
Interesting how this is done which never knew for years I've seen doubles on trucks for years.
What a pain in the ass all of this is!
I did this with this company since 1988 was with them until Yellow stepped in and bought them another company ruined by yellow Freight so sad😢
one of these days someone is going to come up with expandable/collapsible trailers and save the world from doing 50% of the backing/loading/unloading/hooking/unhooking/plugging/unplugging.
I would quit. No question. Beyond stupid. Beyond! 2 hours to move all that greasy heavy shit around
I never saw a nice Roadway tractor and trailers like the ones here . The companies I worked for did not use Jiff Lock converters but drivers for companies that did said they were a pain in the ass also a pain in the back as they caused a rough ride. I have 0 personal experience with them so just passing on 3rd hand opinions.
That's because these were brand new!
Can you believe they actually thought this was a good idea back then? By the time you do this in the middle of the night in snow or ice it's got to be over an hour. Crazy. If you make a mistake you're in big trouble. And you should cross the chains. It's safer. And I love the driver using the grease gloves to touch everything. Funny. That perfect uniform would be full of grease by the time you get done with all of this. The guy might as well wear coveralls and dedicate 2 hours to fucking with this crazy system. It couldn't have saved money because the accidents and workman comp claims must have been very high. Why are people so short sighted, stupid and cheap?
JoeDevola99 you believe they still had these to about 2005. Because I have a 2005 sterling with one of these jiff lok
Never cross your chains
This is the first I’ve seen something like this. I’ve pulled pups before but not doubles.
Jifflox don't exist anymore. Everything they say in the video about moving 5th wheels and all these pins you have to remove and replace doesn't happen anymore. So only like 1/4 of the video actually applies to modern doubles.
That driver did not do his pretrip
This must be a old video.....cuz the NEW drivers now a days are to Lazy to do all this
My God, can you imagine the new crop of steering wheel holders out in the rain, doing this- In knee- shorts and flip-flops, while holding their I-Phones ????
Wow. What a very stupid and unsafe system. That looks like the biggest pain in the ass I can imagine.
Fun? When it’s 10 below zero and there’s a foot of snow on the ground. Screw that
There was no tug test or brake checks
How old is this video?? And Do they still use theses kind of trucks/methods??
Most all are gone. There may be a few terminals that have a dolly and tractor.
We cheat nowadays. I hook my dolly to my leas and back it under. 🤣😂😁🤠
Looks over engineered and anything that is over engineered usually screws up in the long run and is a pain in the butt I couldn’t imagine it doing it in the winterOr when the system is worn
waisting a time..can u guys in states take a example of europe where i do coupling and uncoupling in few secs