Fishing Leaders & Why YOU Need to Use Them
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2023
- Fishing leaders or traces are sections of line or wire that are added between the main fishing line and the lure or bait. The leader is made of a different type or weight of line to provide an extra set of benefits. The most common type of main fishing line & leader setup is braided line to a fluorocarbon leader. This provides the high strength and low diameter of braided line and adds the abrasion resistance and low visibility of fluorocarbon near the lure. The low visibility allows the lure to look as natural as possible. Basics of fishing line leaders for beginners.
The lines I use most are:
Sufix832 braided line is 6lb/20lb/30lb/50lb omnia.direct/j3r8VQ
Seaguar blue label fluorocarbon 20lb/30lb/50lb amzn.to/40sPoNO
Seaguar InvizX fluorocarbon 6lb/10lb omnia.direct/JGgWMG
YoZuri HD fluorocarbon leader 15lb/50lb amzn.to/3QoxUOk
Berkley Trilene XL monofilament 4lb/6lb/8lb omnia.direct/NJnONp
Berkley Big Game monofilament leader 30lb/50lb omnia.direct/zJMNv3
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@@FishingwithNatI heard a story once down here in Texas,someone needed a piece of chain with a meat hook to catch a 90lb. catfish.
@@galvinstanley3235 That's a heck of a strong leader! I'd probably reach for some 100lb braid to 100lb mono/fluoro leader instead though.
This may sound basic to many fishermen, but for someone who is spreading my knowledge from bobber/earthworm fishing to cast bait....this is very helpful. especially when going into large fishing stores like BPS and becoming overwhelmed with all the choices. Your instructions and examples are easy to follow and understand. Thank you!
Thank you. Check out our Learn How to Fish playlist for many more videos that should be helpful to you. czcams.com/play/PLcXAWxBLRzoLwZtDQEhuaHby0yQM_wHhU.html Thanks for the feedback!
Exactly my thoughts. This channel made me actually decide on what I need to start fishing. I was still unsure after a month of watching other videos for advice until this guy explained everything so simply and clearly. What a gem!
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I have fished different techniques a lot for 13 years and this was still useful information
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Concise and answered pretty much every question I had on the topic. Thanks!
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Awesome as always. You know how much I love the FG. Takes a bit of time to tie but it goes through guides very nicely thanks to the slim profile. Btw, after tying it for a year and mastering it, I have never had my line break at the FG. Always on the terminal end or elsewhere.
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome video. I’m pretty new to fishing, but experienced enough that I should’ve been catching more fish. I was using braid in clearer water, switching to about 15” of flouro leader has helped a ton. Nobody has ever taught me this. Thank you!
Awesome - glad I could help. Thanks for the feedback.
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Thanks for the info! I wondered why people use a heavier leader, now I know.
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Thanks for sharing this information buddy! Enjoyed watching this. Keep up the good work my friend. Looking forward to more great content.
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Great information. Thank you for this and I won't forget.
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Only vid I've seen on how to sett up a leader that tells you how much to put on 18-20 inches thank you
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Impressive video, excellent coverage and explanation
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I got some line for a leader at bass pro and was wondering why I needed it I’m glad I found this
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Highly informative. Thanks.
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Professional information right there.
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Only 18in for the leader? I kept using 10ft and my knots kept causing issues with my casting. Now a shorter leader makes sense. Thanks for the tip man. Keep up the great content!
Yeah a leader knot can skip along your guides. It can impact your casting distance and just be downright annoying. A longer leader is great for trolling when you don't have to keep passing it through your guides, or if you're fishing really clear water and you're confident that you need the line to be as invisible as possible for many feet away from the lure.
This video help me setup my first bait caster for pike fishing and trout
Awesome. Good luck fishing!
I was lazy on my last fishing trip and left my braided line attached straight to my trout rig. That was the only pole to catch fish in the group. I love that you need to experiment and even go against what you think sometimes.
Interesting - thanks for sharing. How heavy was the braid?
@@FishingwithNat I believe 8lb. It was attached to one of thoes steel braded trout rigs from Walmart
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You're a life saver, bro You make the best videos the rest of the videos out there. Just plain suck. Thank you for doing this also, If you could, please make a video on how to not get the weight and the bait tangled together LOL. My bait and my weight always get tangled together.😂 Even when their feet apart.😂
Thanks - I really appreciate the feedback. The best advice I have for keeping your bait and weight from tangling is to cast in a very smooth motion. The jerkier your cast, the more the weight and bait will spin during the cast and potentially tangle with each other. Even with the best of casts, you'll still occasionally get a tangle because the weight is always going to fly faster than the lighter bait and that puts your bait close to your main line.
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I've never tied my own leaders. In the past I've just used steel leaders, usually black. But recently have started using fluorocarbon ones that are premade with snaps and swivels.
Steel leaders are good for toothy fish like pike and muskies. Pre-tied fluoro leaders are good for all kinds of things and are certainly convenient.
@@FishingwithNat Yeah but steel ones immediately bend out of shape and become a bit of a hassle. And it can be difficult to find the right leader. I'm kind of particular. lol
@@codster9 I agree. Bent/kinked steel leaders are annoying.
Putting braid to fluro leaders on my spinning combos and some strong mono maybe 30 lb stren
That's how most of my spinning combos (and baitcasters) are set up
Mono is far more abrasion resistant, as Salt Strong proved a while ago. Fluoro is very slightly less visible but unless you’re in crystal clear water I don’t think it’s less visible enough to matter. It also stretches as much as mono, contrary to the marketing, and is less resistant to shock. Overall I don’t see much point to fluoro and I will definitely be using mono as a leader especially in tannic water like here in Florida.
Thanks for the discussion. I am skeptical of the invisibility claims as well. I made this video last year to examine the difference between fluoro and mono underwater czcams.com/video/vMNuKp-RNEs/video.html
You forgot how brittle FC can get and how more often than not snaps in casting due to losing its strenght and flexibility, once its damaged. Mono is the best, just have to find very oily, and very soft one, so knots can slide tight and nicely. I know a guy that is fishing only with mono in crimping tandem with very short wire leader. Unless the fish snagged the lure in the getaway, he never lost a fish. His weakest system never goes under 20 pounds mono. We once went light trolling for small bluefish, leerfish, bonitos and tunny and we didnt find any, but on the way back thru channel he left his gear in sea and hooked 12kg amberjack on his lightest system. If any of us hooked it, it would be waste of time. He is using smaller reel with less line cuz he will tire the fish very fast and she wont drag out so much.
I like using braided with a leader.
Me too
I use a inshore rods because they have bigger eyes than freshwater rods making it easier to cast long leaders
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Currently looking for some flourocarbon to use as a leader with my 15lb braid. What lb flouro would make sense? Was thinking anywhere between 8-12lb but was curious as to what would make the most sense/how to pair the two lines
15lb would be balanced, but you can use a heavier leader for more abrasion/teeth resistance if you're fishing around rocks or toothy fish like pike. If you're finesse fishing for bass, you might want to go with 8 or 10lb fluoro for less visibility.
@@FishingwithNat Ah I see. I am planning to use it on a 7 foot, medium fast spinning rod for general use (no specific techniques in mind). Sounds like anything in the 10-15lb would work aside from the other conditions you mentioned that would require a stronger line. Thanks for the reply and videos, they are always really helpful!
@@hiphip808 I would agree. Keep in mind that your setup is only as strong as your weakest link, so a 10lb leader will eliminate the extra strength of your 15lb line. But 15lb braid is a good all-around weight that allows you to fish a lot of different baits/techniques for a variety of fish, and adjust leader weights as needed.
what use braid at all on spool ? why not just mono and a flour leader ? Doesn't braid wear your rod loops down ? what are the advantages of having braid ? Help me out here ? trying to figure out a good striper set up for lure fishing. , im catching em with just 20 lb. mono right to lure but this leader stuff got me curious to try a flour leader for less visibility , can you suggest a good lbs combo and types of line for this ?
Braid is extremely strong with a thin diameter. 20lb braid has the equivalent diameter of 6lb mono, so it can cast a ton farther than 20lb mono, you can have more line on your spool, and it has much less memory. Check out my video on types of fishing lines czcams.com/video/4OWs0s8PYUQ/video.html .
20lb or 30lb braid with a mono/fluoro leader would be good for stripers.
From the testing I've seen, Flouro will break before mono 100 % of the time when it comes to abrasion.
Thanks for the comment. From my experience with the fluoro and mono lines I've used, I believe the fluoro has held up better against abrasion. It's the main reason I continue to use fluoro, but I agree that it's not a big difference and I'm not sure whether I'll replace the fluoro when it's gone or just stick with a variety of mono weights for leaders.
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Can you make a freshwater fishing tier list?
Did you mean gear list?
I dont feel confident with my knots so is there a huge disadvantage for using premade leaders attached to swivel clips?
Probably not but in really clear water, it might turn a few fish off. A longer leader to position the swivel clip / snap swivel a bit further away may help with that.
Im using a 23lb whiplash 8 main braid , what lb leader do you recommend and brand?
I like Berkley Big Game monofilament for leaders or Seaguar fluorocarbons. My YoZuri fluorocarbon is more flexible but I think it gets cut more easily too. Berkley Big Game alnk.to/aLIvAmJ Seaguar blue label fluorocarbon alnk.to/btnxgHL
If you want to tie leaders for whatever useful or ridiculous reason go for it. If it gives you confidence and has some utility, even if it's just that you like the way it looks, I'll defend you tooth and nail for it.
What I'm not going to sit there and listen to is, "it's better because they can't see it," as if the lateral line sensory system isn't a thing. They don't need to see it. They can feel it. They 100% know it's there. They know your boat is there too. They also don't care if your radio is on so long as it isn't violently pounding. Depending on the species it gets their attention (many catfish seem to like a certain level of noise in my experience).
They also know that inline spinner, paint job, swivel, hook hanging out of it, and the speed, depth, and manner it moves through the water are all nonsense and fully observes it all. They hit it anyway if their instict is properly provoked. But a visible line could tip them off? Not all the other stuff? Hard doubt. Very hard doubt.
A good way to increase fishing success is to reject the illusion that you're tricking a fish via its observations and embrace the reality that you're attempting to trigger an instinctive response.
I fully defend all other reasoning for using a leader, but not that one. That's nonsense.
That's a good point and good discussion. I certainly agree that a fish's lateral line will detect that there is a lure vibrating and displacing water nearby. But I think a fish will often make a conscious decision based on appearance of whether or not to strike a bait. This is likely impacted by how hungry the fish is too. More hungry = more willing to strike just about anything that could be food.
You can see this concept in action by tossing small pebbles near a school of bluegills or bass. The fish will detect a pebble as it breaks the surface and falls through the water, and many of the fish will rush over to see it. Most will stop short as they see the pebble and realize that it isn't food. A few might bite the pebble and quickly spit it out. If you keep tossing pebbles by these fish, eventually none of them will bite them. Their vision, not their lateral line, is telling them that it isn't food and they shouldn't bite it.
I will continue using less-visible leaders because I do think that fish use their sight to make a final decision of whether to bite a lure. The lateral line system gets them close and then they rely on other senses (smell or taste in some species) to make a decision.
I have caught fish on straight braid to a lure before, I've caught fish on bare hooks, and I've caught predator fish on chunks of bread. So it certainly happens that fish strike baits due to predatory instinct or maybe their intense hunger caused them to disregard their other senses that normally help them discern food vs. non-food.
@@FishingwithNat I'm not knocking anyone for leaders and I'm a huge fan of doing anything that you think will result in more success. I'm not trying to get anyone to stop using leaders. I can't even make the claim that I don't use leaders at all because I still tie snells and use wire when I'm too much of a coward about losing a favorite topwater lure.
At the end of the day I think fish are way more instinct driven than we think they are and way less cognitive than we tend to give them credit for.
Even if the visibility of a leader meant absolutely nothing I doubt it'd hurt in any way if it was harder to see. Ultimately I guess I'm just getting revved up about pretty much nothing. 😂
@@danorris5235 I agree - I don't think it would hurt anything. There certainly are drawbacks, like the extra time spent tying leaders and the extra expense of the leader line.
I thought braided was more abrasion resistant because I heard that’s what to use strong around lily pads because it will cut through them and mono will stretch and break?
The idea is that braid will potentially cut through lily pads. Braid is best for fishing in heavy pads because it is very strong and has no stretch, so you can horse a big fish out of there quickly before it wraps you up.
@@FishingwithNat so if I am fishing lily pads then I shouldn’t use a leader?
@@nessfittraining9679 I still use a short leader in heavy pads because there are a lot of pike and musky here and a lot of my local lakes are pretty clear. But many people run straight braid to their lures when fishing in heavy cover.
According to humans, fish see leader BUT NOT the 3 pairs of triangle hooks haha
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LMFAO! Fish are caught on alabama rigs with tons of gear visible. Suggesting that fish can not only see the line, but also understands what the line is, utter BS!!! Total BS video.
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Video is ok, i did not bash the video. Im bashing humans that generally in fishing overthink things abnormally. Point of my comment is, fish sees everything and fish does not only bite when its hungry. Most of times, fish bites cuz its irritated, or its defending its teritory, or its just inspecting the gear. If fish was leading a hungry life it wouldnt be fat and it surely wouldnt be in high numbers thriving. I am saltwater fisherman with decades of observation. Now, these facts can differ for freshwater fish, i can not deny that. What is your personal experience ?
What leader would protect me from pike but still let me catch bass?
Thick fluoro
Fluorocarbon is best. Thick monofilament will work too but you can get more abrasion resistance from fluoro compared to the same diameter monofilament.
i still dont see a big difference between mono and flouro just more expensive and a bit faster sinking which u can add weight .. @@neonwhitea.1548
Wire is best, tieable wire tied into the main (FG or Alberto knot) line is the best option for wire. If a swivel is needed, tie it in at the end.
If Im using 50lb braid for surf fishing would I use 50lb leader?
It would make sense to keep the line strength consistent throughout. You can also choose to use a thicker leader for more abrasion resistance with teeth, rocks, or shells.
Can you just fill the whole reel with flurocarbon leader line and use that??
You can use a fluorocarbon main line to fill the entire spool but it's very expensive and tends to have a lot of line memory. It likes to jump off of the spool and cause big tangles. You're better off with a braided main line and a short section of fluoro/mono leader.
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@@FishingwithNat have a good one! I’m just starting and your videos have helped me tons!
@@FishingwithNat thank you for taking the time to reply
@@sollara505 Awesome - thanks for the feedback! Good luck fishing.
30 or 50 pound leaders for muskies? That's pretty light - most ski anglers I know use at least 80 lb at a minimum.
I use 30-50lb fluoro for muskies pretty often on a medium power rod. With a lighter setup like that, there isn't as much tension on the line and the leader is not as prone to get sliced. But if I'm casting for really big muskies, I will go to a 12" steel or titanium leader. Those big ones will even slice through 100lb mono. Steel or titanium is pretty much the only option.
I'll use the steel leader on a heavy power rod with 50lb braid.
Monofilament is the same or more abrasion resistant than fluorocarbon, that has been tested and proven. As for fluorocrbon being less visible than mono, I'm not sold on that either. I won't be buying fluorocarbon anymore because of the price.
I've been taking a hard look at visibility of mono and fluoro in different conditions and I don't see any real difference either. I've been skeptical of the abrasion resistance too, but I use both mono and fluoro leaders all the time, and I notice that I lose more lures to pike and musky with mono leaders, and the fluoro leaders are definitely harder to cut with scissors/knife than equal-weight mono.
@@FishingwithNat I use a short Sevenstrand nylon coated wire leader for pike, like 4", and they definitely don't mind, and I fish in gin clear water. I fish for brown trout with live alewives in a different lake, also gin clear water, and I have not found any difference in bites with mono vs fluoro. I do notice if I go over 10lb test with either, bites do go down though.
@@thegoods2240 Thanks for the feedback. I'll be releasing a video about my fluoro vs. mono visibility tests soon. I will still buy fluoro leader spools, but mostly for abrasion resistance rather than visibility.
I won't use fluorocarbon because it stays in the environment virtually forever.
@@thegoods2240I also use wire to avoid pike and musky stealing lures, even for bass.
The fish don't care.
Are you telling me the fish can see the line but not the big black hook?
It's all about doing what you can to preserve the natural appearance of the bait to the extent that you can. The hooks, split rings, and plastic lip on a crankbait are all very visible and unnatural, but a predator sees variation in its prey all the time - different shapes, sizes, colors, body parts. I think a highly visible line pulling the bait is more suspicious than the hardware attached to the bait, but only the fish really knows whether it cares at all. I think it likely depends a lot on the water clarity, time of day, and species of fish.
Why not just run Flora-carbon
You could but fluorocarbon is very expensive and can be hard to cast. The diameter of braid is about 1/3 of fluorocarbon of the same weight. Check out my quick video on the types of fishing lines and when/why to use them czcams.com/video/4OWs0s8PYUQ/video.html
Are you saying that fish know what fishing line is?
They don't know what fishing line is, but they may find it suspicious, especially in clear water or on heavily fished waters.
LMFAO! Fish are caught on alabama rigs with tons of gear visible. Suggesting that fish can not only see the line, but also understands what the line is, utter BS!!! Total BS video.
We'll CATCH you next time. Sorry im a goof.
Yep, catch you then! 🙂