North Korean Border - How We Got Away from the Police
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- We went to the North Korean border with China, and discuss why it's so easy to disappear, get arrested, or worse in this area. This was a very nerve wracking experience, but we are glad we managed to get some good footage there.
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What a load of cr*p.
If they wanted to stop you, you wouldn't make it out of your flat.
@@brane2379 Yeah Brane, you know everything and have been everywhere, and at all times. Drop some more of your profound wisdom on us while you're here because your story is fascinating.
Omg they have a super 8 motel!!! Those are total crap here in the states!
@@brane2379 you seem like an angry dude.
You guys wanted to reach 100k subscribers the other day, now it shows over 400 k... is that accurate ??
At the top of the building at 26:02 it lists educational goals/virtues.
AKATT별 explains it well in the comments below, quote:
"지덕체, which is an abbreviation for "지육, 덕육, 체육": intellectual education, moral education and physical education."
Thanks to MoMo 모모 for correcting the sentence below that, which reads:
"경애하는 김정은장군님의 참된 아들딸이되자!"
"Let's become faithful sons and daughters of (our) dear general Kim Jong-Un!"
So yes, this appears to be a school. The vertical banner in front of said building reads:
"Let's learn for Korea!"
"조선을 위하여 배우자!"
The building at 28:36 reads:
"조선은 결심하면 한다!"
Which sort of translates to
"We (Korea) can do whatever we are determined to do!"
You're very welcome. Keep up the good work.
Thank you
MVP in the comment section! Thank you!
Asian written language is both bizarre and interesting.. I would presume the characters are "conceptual"... It must be really difficult to read and write in any of the Asian languages, because those characters er symbols are pretty complex... I mean obviously in English if you hear a word you can usually just spell it because English is a phonetic language, but if these characters are conceptual then you would have to memorize all of them, not only that but it must be difficult trying to explain abstract ideas via character format.
@@Swoop187OG187 believe it or not, korean hangeul is the easiest of all the asian writing system, its not like the chinese which is symbolic.
@@Swoop187OG187
Actually the Korean alphabet was designed to learn quickly. When I first started learning to write Hangul (Korean alphabet), it took me one day. It's actually easy.
The Korean word mean "Let's be good Son & daughter for great Leader Kin Jong-Un"
It seems to be a school. It also says vertically, "lets learn for Josun." The block letter are drawing a blank. It could be the name, but doesn't look right. It could also mean, "knowledge, virtue, body," but I didn't think North Koreans used Chinese like that. i.e. it could be phonetic writing of "知德體" . Sorry, I don't know simplified Chinese.
@@victorwong3311 I thought Josun too but not too sure so i didn't put it down Thanks
Well, we all knew it had to have _something_ to do with the Great Leader.
@@deusexaethera To me it just another propaganda!!!
reads eerily similar to the Chinese sign at 6:40. Those slogan basically ask you to be a loyal party member.
Back in the days, the duo were literally on the ground and left no stone unturned. Gutsy.
But they had no ponytails.
@@warrenlauzon5315 That's a good thing.
The definition of adventire
@@Sk0lzky driving round China in a bike and being on the North Korean border. You was there when?!?
I discovered these guys recently. Damn man, it's like Spies Like Us but intelligent and deliberate. If people think they've got balls, I ask em to even think about the Stoic balls it would take. Let alone post it. Wow.
In years to come this will end up in do cos as the main source. Champions un-recognised. For now.
"i went to the Korean border and all i got was this awesome footage" 😂
The horizontal sign on the white building at around 26:30 says something along the lines of "Lets become faithful sons and daughters of the dear general Kim Jong Un" and the vertical one says: "Let's study for the sake of Joseon (North Korea)!"
And like other commenter said, the sign on the pink building at the end says roughly: "Joseon is capable of anything given enough determination"
Thank you! 😎👍
I really like those kinda longer stories.
Good for you buddy
me 2
same
I also.
Jesus man, you guys obviously got back ok but I STILL feel nervous for you in that footage
This episode totally feels like a real-world recreation of "The Interview".
Well done boys!
Is it any good? I’ve never watched that movie.
@@matty6848 I enjoyed it. It's stupid funny, but still funny.
@@matty6848 bro the movie is fucking hilarious. A must watch if you can
No it definitely doesn't lmfao
Your footage is like a time capsule. Very interesting. Your chat during the video is also pretty interesting, I’ve learned a lot. Keep it coming!
I thought the same thing. Very much like looking back into a 16th century.
I imagine they strip the trees away to prevent people sneaking through the forrest to the border.
It's called a "Killzone" they clear it to give machine guns clear fields of fire.
@@kdrapertrucker still better chance of surviving then going through the DMZ
Been watching your videos since Winston was doing solo's at bars in China. Keep up the great work guys cheers from Toronto. Don't have much money these days to donate to your channel but I always smash the like button on your videos. 👍
Hi I support you guys and love the stuff your doing, It is crazy how some people in government don't call out China and North Korea because they don't want to offend any one. I am 15 and I think you guys are heroes!
I'm 30 years old and have traveled extensively, I can tell you this type of stuff takes guts. My palms are sweating watching, and to me China looks like a place I would never ever want to be locked up, especially as a foreigner.
You can’t call out a regime
@@goclunker lol what? You definitely can an should call out regimes like the CCP
The Korean sign says " Chosun can do anything if we put our mind to it! 조선은 결심하면 됀다 (North Korea calls themselves "Chosun")
thank you!
Except feed their people
@@artygunnar to be fair, they just didn’t put their minds to it.
I am very naive, and child like, when I see these sorts of things. I mean when you get down to the core of the human race people like to get along, be left alone, and just live. Everything else is politics which destroys everything it touches.
You sure about that? Looks more like 조선은 xx하면 한다 but I literally can't make out that one word before 하면 but the last part doesn't look like 됀다
Those “depressing basketball hoops” is where Kim Jong Un and BFF Dennis Rodman teamed up to defeat “The Monstars” in an intergalactic game of basketball in order to save humanity from an alien invasion. 😜
I don’t think I have ever felt more great-full and appreciated for what I have and being in the USA 🇺🇸
Like a border between a mere dystopia and a zombie apocalypse...
The dystopian thing sound like a stretch to most ppl living in China. If not for NK refugees being NK refugees, China would basically be like heaven for them. Just ask the guy who came from South Africa
@@lemons2300 If "you're living in a dystopia" sounds like a stretch to you, the inhabitant of the dystopia, then the CCP empire or IngSoc rulers or whatever the ruling force of whatever Brave New World it is has it made.
@@NajwaLaylah A place where u barely have food or dunno when u die in ur sleep for being white, vs a place where a 9 to 5 routine life is so mundane you decide to play chinese checkers with some half naked old man next door because you rage quit counter strike
@@lemons2300 Sounds like you have a very personal vision. Do mass stabbings of kindergartners figure into it anywhere?
@@NajwaLaylah Not rly tho. Just find some chinese person and talk about it idk
And knife is less effective than gun. Guess what happens often in countries where there are guns everywhere.
Also, look at South Africa now. Oh wait, look at it since a decade ago.
Also, I take that "a very personal vision" means you have fist hand experience. And surprise surprise, I'm not North Korean.
Anyways, there are ethnic Koreans living in China. They literally made videos about it. Of course, North Korean just means the nationality.
My anxiety is peaking watching you guys do this...
I know, right? I know they make it out ok (obviously), but man alive I was sweating bullets.
Hehehe me too... 😁
YES! I'm like, Risking your freedom for a pic?
*Really???*
I was imagining hundreds of mini-Lingpings with ckubs storming out of the bushes...
You guys are lucky you didn’t get caught. This is the type of thing I would have done when I was young and dumb. Still, very interesting.
Westerners don't think about how it looks when you're doing innocent stuff. The only time I ever encountered "sensitivity" to photos was on certain USAF bases and in a German Polizei building.
*VERY* lucky
@@daneaxe6465 He is from South Africa... HE is not a westerner.
@@EC-dz4bq But with British ancestry no less.
@@noggin48 IF that's your case, then we ALL have have African ancestry.
Fascinating stuff, guys. I really appreciate what you guys went through to be able to capture this footage to share with the world. Mad respect for both of you!
Guys, there is a very thin line between bravery and insanity. I am feeling nervous only looking at a youtube video. Its great that you made it back in one piece. Appreciate your enthusiasm and will to share with others. Thank you!
Thank you for these fascinating videos. A rare glimpse into a part of the world that rarely gets mentioned let alone seen. Stay safe.
Between ADVchina and Laowhy, my youtube feed is FILLED with your videos now. I love your videos so it's all good
Also, there's no way I will ever have the guts to go to China and sight see like you guys have. So I will gladly live vicariously through you two haha
It's really nice to still have ADVChina videos in a much safer format regarding honesty about situations. Given the current political climate, I may start downloading these videos so there's a guarantee that they'll be available in the future (for me).
You dont actually care that much. Dont pretend like you do lmao
@@TheDsRequiem Nobody cares about you and not even pretending 😂 🤣
@@TheDsRequiem What is your fucking deal in this comment section
26:14 the bare hills remind me of the east german side along the Berlin Wall. It's bare so they can see defectors easier. The east germans even put a wide strip of sand along the wall, carefully raked smooth, so they could see footprints.
East Germany also had tons of land mines, so every now and then you'd hear one go off usually by some poor deer or other wildlife
Many borders are bare like that.
soviet union did the same thing. To keep people in and shoot defectors.
So I looked up “the 4 consciousnesses” and it’s actually called “the 4 comprehensives” ….which are…
1.Comprehensively build a moderately prosperous society
2.Comprehensively deepen reform
3.Comprehensively govern the nation according to law
4.Comprehensively strictly govern the Party.
Yeah, it’s basically propaganda
well most of those signs are
I found you guys on YT a few months ago, and I continue to be impressed by what you do. Keep it up and stay awesome!
That's a Potemkin village; I doubt the people living there do so for any reason other than to make it look like people in North Korea live a certain way. It's all theater.
It is indisputable fact that all Governments are good at theatricks.
That is how they trick the people.
That is DEMO-cracy
Something that looks real but is functionally flawed.
Also: Th form of government known as a DEMOcracy, is an established
Socialist/Communist order under a new governor "ADMINISTRATOR" the
U.S. of A commonly and incorrectly described as America.
This Act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the
Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the
International Monetary Fund.
Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R. 13955
@@andrew_koala2974 They may all be theaters, but one is using card board assets with no food while some are in VR and enough food for obesity.
But hey, they're still the theaters, right? No difference at aaaalll.
Democracy = you're supposed to do what we say because the other people want it.
@@Gubers, ever studied Aristotle?
@@andrew_koala2974 "That is DEMO-cracy
Something that looks real but is functionally flawed."
Demos is literally the greek word for "people" you idiot.
"Also: Th form of government known as a DEMOcracy, is an established
Socialist/Communist order under a new governor "ADMINISTRATOR" the
U.S. of A commonly and incorrectly described as America."
Who shit in your brain? Democracy predates communism by two millennia.
I only discovered your channel some months ago and I just love your videos on China. I worked in Guangzhou for Sinopec Oil in 2009/2010. I loved being there and made many a good friend. I have to say, I do enjoy listening, and watching you two. You seem really down-to-earth good blokes.
Haven't seen you guys post a video on this channel for ages. Love this type of content where you review footage from when you were in China. Really good especially the length of it. It truly make it feel like you're immersing in a story.
As always, a LEKKER podcast haha. (I’m in London now but I spent most of my life in South Africa.
Keep well lads!
I'm here in South Africa, waiting for Zuma to be arrested, 😂
For me lekker means tasty
That would be smakelig I believe
Good men like you two are few. I can't express how hurt I feel for the Korean people. God help them. Your courage is incredible- please keep up the fight.
"consciousnesses of the ideology, the whole, the core and the line" must be promoted. This concept, dubbed "the four consciousnesses,"
So pretty much what Winston said 😂
I thought the number 4 was evil in China. So does that mean the 4 communist things are evil? "4 consciousnesses: of the (communist) ideology, the whole, the core, and the line"? 🤣
I love your conquering China series and this segment in particular. You guys really got fascinating, bare bones footage of China, and the country really did itself a disservice by hassling you two. If anything y'all were doing the country a favor with your sweet documentation of lesser know parts of the area.
This was hard hitting. Like other viewers mentioned I felt nervous just watching this even though I know you made it. As thrilling and intense as this content was you still brought the laughs. Bravo guys, keep up the good work.
One of your best public videos in the last couple years! Really great stuff here, guys.
Just wanted to say I LOVE your guys' channel and I watch both of your other CZcams channels as well. I am a relatively new viewer and you guys have a treasure trove of content. Great stuff!!!
Amazing commentary and footage as always feels like I was there with you.
Thanks guys for the risks you took and take to provide the valuable insight into life in China and North Korea. It really shows how lucky that people are who do not have to deal with strict, ruthless governments. As greedy and destructive as the western type of policies are, it is still much better than having ones life threatened for almost nothing and having to endure crushing poverty.
You are right some of us appreciate that , and some don't . They don't understand that voting for politicians that push for more government and government spending , have to get that tax money to pay those gov .salaries from somewhere, ..it means more bureaucracy , increased costs of living , of doing business , and less liberties ..
Self made channels like this always make me happy. Totally love y’all and thanks for posting this exclusive footage. Very nice. Winston has a very cool bike
Loved this. When you guys start going over the details in your videos I couldn’t have been happier, especially true for this video on the border of North Korea.
Guys I am a China scholar, I have been dragged through my studies of Xi Jinping, through hundreds of slogans that I have had to look up. One time I found China-daily giving a "quote" to Xi Jinping. But that was an adaptation of a quote by Hu Jitao, that was a version of a quote by Jiang Zemin, that quoted Deng Xiaoping, that quoted Mao Zedong, who were quoting Stalin, that was contributing it to a comrade named Ivan.
I have been going trough more than 150 years of Chinese and Russian slogans.
My god, the horror....
@@jeffprice6421, it's a relief to realize that these people never come up with anything original. The whole point of Communist propaganda is not to guide or to educate but to insult the intelligence of the listener, so that he will stop thinking, in fear that he would need to disagree about everything and end up totally, existentially isolated. The purpose of the slogans is to create a kind of alternative reality. Or rather unreality. There are two alternatives to this that I know of. One is to openly and knowingly vie for materialistic pleasure and success in the Western fashion. Another is some kind of Aristotelian or medieval Christian metaphysical worldview.
When seeing Communist slogans, a Western mind often thinks of them as kind of instructions. "You are supposed to start with these principles and then knowingly and willingly implement them as an individual." In reality, a Communist citizen is supposed to do what he is told to do, but in his mind he is supposed to rationalize and interpret his actions as stated in the slogan. "By scrubbing this toilet I am building an utopia and a millennial peace under the guidance of our wonderful leader." The end result is that you will scrub toilets until for some reason or other you drop dead.
Nice work boys! This was really fascinating. Good job staying ahead of the man.
Good show today, really enjoyed watching it
Outstanding material! thank you so much for posting it!
You two guys are absolutely nuts. My heroes! Thanks for risking your freedom and lives making this educational stuff about China. I really enjoy them and find the content very enlightening.
Man, you guys had guts to do that but so envious of your travels!! Keep the vids coming!! Love em!! And wish you and your beautiful families health and happiness!!!!!
Thanks for posting this, it was super interresting!
Years ago I visited Yugoslavia, there is a lake between Macedonia and Albania.
Every evening we could see the party lights on the boulevards on the Albanian side lit up as if there was a great feast going on.
One evening someone handed me a pair of very strong binoculars, when looking at the boulevards I saw they were nearly empty !
"It's just show, to make us believe life is great over there." he said.
Lake Ohrid. A couple of scientists from my university go there regularly to collect lake sediment data
@@miliba 🏆
🎵 Tada 🎵
🖖😎👍 ❗
Spot on 100%. I remember going to Corfu years ago as a kid on vacation with my parents. The hotel we stopped in our room and balcony faces east to the Albanian western coastline. which in 1988 was still under strict communist regime. The Irish guy who was stopping next door to us had really powerful Ex military binoculars and he said to my dad one night talking over the Balconies on the top floor, to look at the western coastline which he did and we could see Communist Albanian soldiers patrolling the beach, fully armed. And same as your view we could see lights coming from the shore line, but nothing else. No bars open, no hotels no people nothing but a military presence and that was it.
6-7 years ago we drove with my family through europe in a roadtrip. We knew we had to drive through Albania and weren't all that happy about it. We timed our drive so we could drive non-stop. Everywhere we looked we saw mercedes-benzes, i started counting them and soon i had to stop because i hit 50 and it was the first city and only half an hour in or something. Yet, no one seemed to be working, the sides of road in the city were filled with groups of men looking at us weirdly, we really didn't feel safe at any point. Plus the roads were just terrible.
@@alaric_ Have you seen any cars owned by people who are too poor to afford one, like high up in the mountains ?
By the way, many of these cars are second-hand, imported from "rich countries", I personally knew men who buy cars with damage (due to an accident or something similar) in, for example, Germany or the Netherlands and then export them to "poor countries" as "scrap", there they are refurbished and sold.
When over there I was offered a Mercedes (!) on loan, it was owned by the man who's apartment I rented, normally he used it to transport guests from and to a little airport nearby, after some inspection I refrained from this offer, the vehicle seemed reliable nor safe.
Instead I rented a "Yugo" from Avis (Fiat licensed build), it was brought over from way up north and stupid enough left outside on a parking lot the night before it was handed over to me, the next morning when I collected it, chrome parts, hubcaps, mirrors, wind-shield wipers etc. were all gone (in those regions people tend to hide their cars in a garage or barn against this), luckily it was still reliable and someone from Avis came over with a spare wiper.
I've seen many cars driving around without wind-shield wipers, only when it became really impossible to drive without one (and only one !) was installed temporarily (when not needed it was stored in the glove compartment (which I did too), the other was as spare part at home hidden in a safe place).
Note, I'm talking thirty years or more ago. :-)
THIS is why I watch this channel. By far. 100%. 10/10.
One small request - date it! when was this filmed?
Love what you guys are doing, keep up the good work.
Love your stuff guys, keep it up !
Awesome footage, guys!
I'm so glad I've finally seen "Conquering Northern China". I hope to eventually, when/if it is safe for others and you and C-Milk, to see hopefully an addition to the documentary. I watched a separate video where you explain it, but I would imagine the conversations between you both must have been intense after the invasion by the police at the hotel in Inner Mongolia! And at the horse family. (Sorry, I don't recall their name)
“When the government tells you to focus on something, it means that it has failed” are wise words, no matter where you live
Awesome video. Thank you! Brings back memories!
So very interesting and informative. Your narration is excellent. It's almost like being there. You guys are awesome. Thanks so much.
This was a GREAT video...we want MORE!!
I find North Korea and the CCP dynamic really fascinating. There are so much underhandedness and so much propaganda from both sides.
Best vlog in a long time !
I just watched your documentary conquering northern China and I love it. Also I'm a new fan of you 2 regarding your weekly podcast. Keep up the hard work guys!
"Two studies and one doing" seems bit like "Measure twice, cut once"
You've never heard the legend of the three basketball hoops it is foretold that one day Dennis rodman, Yao Ming, and Kim jong-un will all make a sick asz free throw from the half river line and the world shall have a thousand years of peace. 🕊️
LMAO
Fantastic episode! 🔥 💪🏻
Incredible content. Thank you so much!
25:56 You asked for a translation of what's on the NK white building. I think it says "If you can read this, you're too close!"
One of the best episodes of ADVChina, especially for those interested in China police state oppression and North Korea.
very important to document these kinds of things thank you
great footage guys 📽keep up the good work
You guys should collaborate with Yeonmi.
C-Milk interviewed her on his Laowhy86 CZcams channel. Check it out, it's a great interview.
He did already >.
You guys are legends.
Wow, this is the most fascinating thing I've ever seen on CZcams! Awesome!
Seriously, this is way more interesting than any commercial current affairs documentary
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
haha love that you guys wore your bike jackets … c milk looks so stiff 😅👌🏻
I even got a rush watching you guys recording NK from China. I cant even imagine how your blood was pumpin while you were on the border.
Thank you for sharing your experience! It is awesome to see the real daily life.
Amazing filming guys . Great story .
What a story guys, so interesting!
This is fascinating
Excellent footage, thank you both from Connecticut.
This is my favorite video from these guys. A real adventure with hardship, danger, and a successful mission
You guys are nuts lolll. Legendary!
I spent some time in Thailand, so I can imagine what it felt like to do what you did. I don't think people that have not experienced what you have can believe how bad it is in North Korea and China..
Brilliant video guys, thanks! I really need to get the conquering videos soon
I just discovered your channel, better now than never 😎👍
Great journey, nice footage 👏
Very brave guys you are 💪
Take care and keep on doing this amazing job 💯
Fantastic presentation it's easy to forget about the plight of the North Korean people I'm glad that it's being discussed, we need much more on this topic,
Wow..truly awesome video boys
Amazing content guys keep it up.
really great episode. the landscape of the N Korean side was so depressing. I cant imagine the pure emotional strain of a life like that, they cant even leave. just stuck by threat of death in this barren wasteland of dirt and empty farm fields
You want to see that sort of bleak landscape a little closer to home? Just take a vacation to the Dominican Republic and from there take an excursion to Haiti. (The two countries share an island).
@@ZeldaZiplock Just as how this video described the Chinese side as having trees and the North Korean side as having few trees due to them being used up, the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic shows a similar contrast.
@@ZeldaZiplock At least Haitians are not being killed for leaving the country. Lots of them actually end up going to the US, for example.
@@diogorodrigues747 Granted Haitians are technically able to emigrate, although finding a host country is far from easy for them. But I was referring to the striking contrast between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. When you fly over Hispaniola,, the Haitian side on the island is uniformly brown while the Dominican side is a lush verdant green.
I love these types of videos of you two in china. For what it's worth it looks like a beautiful countryside, hopefully someday again it will be safe for foreigners to visit and explore. The anecdote about police leaving you alone if you just keep moving reminds me of grand theft auto 🤣
Such an amazing, rare video, wow! I've liked and subscribed yet again! 👍
Missed you guys! Been out for two weeks an trying to catch up by binging
"selfies of myself". What else can you take a selfie of? 🤣 Great content as always, though.
Now I've seen other parts of the world, thanks to you!
Love your videos started watching your channel a few years back - you guys never disappoint and love the film while you're riding technique you employ !
Fantastic coverage…very bold
29:00 thats typical logging. Timber floating is the cheapest way to move logs, its common everywhere. I'd imagine they cut them down with hand tools that's why there's so few logs, or there's limited amount of trees ready for logging.
I don't think that even now you two comprehend how INCREDIBLY LUCKY you were to escape China without being DISAPPEARED PERMANENTLY. Certainly, not when you were there. I'm very glad you made it out.
One of their friends was one of the Michaels, he's stuck in prison there because of the CCP's political retaliation against Canada.
I know what you're saying, but I think these two know very well how close they were. Luck is involved, but I think it comes down to instinct, intelligence, and something akin to spacial awareness. Experience and being observant plays a big part. For example they mentioned not staying in one place for too long. Keep moving. That is very wise and has I think, saved my ass quite a few times.
@@gordonliu3972 they have done some really risky stuff like even the Chinese mafia situation could have ended badly if they didn't pack up and leave the town. I think they are lucky because they're not American.
Amazing footage lads good show
You guys are amazing!