Still hurts that he didn’t win this tournament last year. 2010 and 2013 he made the finals but ran into confident Federer and Djokovic on arguably their favorite surface, so as well as he played to make the final both years he couldn’t beat both of them back to back. But last year, he was up 6-3 5-4 against Medvedev and in the final would’ve had an epic matchup with Thiem that he totally had a chance to win. It’s such a shame he blew the match against Medvedev.
He didn't actually blow it. I'm pretty sure Medvedev just played too well in that moment. Djokovic was up 4-0 in the tiebreak in last year's ATP Finals, but Thiem started blasting backhand winners.
@@hello-mv6yg He was serving for the match at 5-4 and played a really bad game. That was his chance right there. Also in the tiebreak he was really tight. In the 3rd set Medvedev played really well but Nadal also seemed gassed if I remember right. It was definitely a match Nadal should’ve closed out, but yeah it happens. Just sucks that he didn’t get his shot at the title and we didn’t get the Nadal/Thiem final, which is the best spectacle in tennis right now imo (Nadal/Djokovic just tends to be a little too surface specific even though the tennis quality is amazing).
The commentator was right in saying that the umpire shouldn’t have called out, given that Rafa had already stopped play with a challenge. It only confused things and made the decision less credible.
@@TheRafaelBond No, it was Nadal's challenge. Here's what happened: Rafa stopped play, challenging an 'in' call Umpire called the ball out (null and void because point was already over) Rafa's challenge is wrong and ball is in Rafa loses point
@@tomr6955 are you dumb? nadal returned the ball! nadal did not challenge anything, he was saying it was out. the umpire calls it out, which has nothing to do with anything nadal did. BERDYCH challenges it. you replay the point. if it was the case that it was called in, rafa challenges it, its called in, then rafa loses the point. get it????
Rafa was right here. That ball could only have been called out if either: a) Rafa challenges it and it's proven out b) the umpire overrules the linesman In normal circumstances, because Rafa stopped play and indicated he thought the ball was out, the call should have led to a challenge that was either proven or disproven. If disproven, Rafa loses the point. If proven, he wins the point. However, the umpire also overruled the call of the linesman, changing the official decision to be OUT. Rafa putting his finger up to say he thinks something is out does not change the official call, and him putting his finger up should never affect the decision of the umpire to overrule. Hence Berdych was actually challenging the umpire, and it was the umpire's mistake to overrule and call it out, hence the point should be replayed.
Rafa made his mistakes, acting before the umpire, the chronological order matters. The challenge showed the ball was in. Bernardes interfered unnecessarily, but doesnt change the fact that Rafa had to lose the point.
@@Ilegator So you can do whatever mistake , whatever fault to your opponent, if the umpire says its okay then its okay? Anyway Bernardes most likely realized that he intervened unnecessarily, and finally gave the point to Berdych- and according to you also - what matters only is the umpire ' s last call right, so, I dont know what we even discuss here.
@@vakumjovencito1321 If you have watched a bit of tennis, u should know that they never correct themselves because they can't, even when they know afterwards they were wrong.
@@Ilegator Bernardes just did it here, didnt he? Tell me any other case when this happens, player stops the point and umpires overrules? Never. Why? Because once a player stops he has the responsibility, the umpire cant take it from him, Bernardes realized his mistake, corrected himself, and rightfully gave the point to Tomas.
technically nadal lost that point because he challenged/stop play before carlos said out. however, carlos said he missed the ball which he didn’t which made the matter worse. very tricky situation for everyone and carlos shouldn’t of called out when rafa technically challenged
I don’t think that it matters that Nadal stopped the point before the call came though. No matter what a player does with his body as long as a call came and the player out the ball back in play the point is replayed
The problem here is that the umpire should have called a challenge from rafa, not call it out. Then Rafa would challenge, the ball is in and the point goes to Berdych.
@@TheRafaelBond Absolutely not! The ball is called out. Then Berdych challenges. The Hawk Eye proves him right: the ball was in. And Nadal had clearly stroke the ball back into the court. How can Bernardes give the point to Berdych? He should've said : "Replay the point". That's it!
@@TheRafaelBond Have you forgotten that umpire Bernardes called the ball out at 5:25 ? Watch the video again! In all fairness, Bernardes must call "Replay the point".
The true reason why Nadal lost the point was that he stopped play (in order to request his challenge) and so Berdych complained that Nadal had hindered him by doing so. Regardless of whether or not Nadal won the challenge, and whether or not he returned the ball in (on which the umpire was incorrect), his manner of challenging was not subtle and technically occurred while the point was still active (since nobody had called the ball out yet), meaning he disrupted Berdych. So all in all awarding Berdych the point is actually the fairest ruling the umpire could have given, although it’s certainly understandable why Nadal thought otherwise. I hope this clears up some confusion.
Yeah. Nadal should not be rewarded for Bernandes making a wrong call on the overrule. This was Berdych's point. Nadal clearly stopped play before the overrule came in, so he would have lost the point regardless. People who think otherwise are just wrong.
Nadal stopped play with a challenge, and coincidentally at the same time the umpire called the ball out. Then Berdych challenged the call. Then the challenge went ahead and it turned out the ball was in. I think the umpire then thought the challenge that just went ahead was Nadal's challenge and Not Berdych's. Maybe, in all the confusion, the umpire forgot he called the ball out and also didn't see Berdych challenging the call. The rule the umpire then used was that Nadal stopped play mid-rally and the ball was in, so Nadal loses the point for stopping play without good reason. Nadal then argued that the point should be replayed because he returned the ball in court after Berdych's shot. This is true, but from the umpire's perspective - that Nadal stopped play to challenge - it's irrelevant. Nadal should have clarified that the umpire stopped play when the umpire called "out", which made Nadal's challenge void, and then Berdych's challenged the out call. Looking at the replay, it isn't clear who the umpire says is challenging the call. It sounds more like, "Nadal" than "Berdych", though it's not clear. The footage clearly shows Berdych challenging the call. So basically, it's quite complicated.
Berdych is officially challenging the call not Nadal. The point was given to berdych because Nadal challenging before the call was considered him “stopping the point.” Honestly that’s not a bad argument considering if there was no call made Nadal would have lost the point because he challenge beforehand. Definitely a complicated one cause like you said his challenge maybe could be considered void. Love to know the rule book on this.
I think it's pretty clear. Nadal stopped play thinking the ball was out not due to any interference. Doesn't matter what he did after whether he hit the ball into the court or anything. Now, Bernardes calling out in error late...honestly it doesn't matter. If he hadn't, Nadal would have challenged and lost the point anyways.
If anyone watching this video will ever play against Rafa, I can only give you one piece of advice... DO NOT MAKE HIM ANGRY. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR ANYONE EXCEPT HIM.
Tough situation technically though I think he would lose the point because of the challenge . Regardless if carlos said out which he did nadal challenged meaning he didnt make a legitimate play . Carlos messed up saying rafas ball was out .
@@Zarlock0 That is very much not true and I think it's the main misunderstanding people have here. Raising a finger, which Rafa clearly does before Bernandes makes the call, is considered to be a sign that you want to challenge a call and hence it's considered to mean you stopped play. If you think a ball is out, want to challenge, but your challenge is wrong, then you lose the point. Otherwise the challenge system would be suspectible to all kinds of exploitation like people challenging balls when they're about to lose a point just to get a replay. Even if technically the "out" from Carlos came at the same time, that still doesn't matter because Nadal clearly challenged thinking that the call was in. Why else do you think he raised his finger? Him hitting the ball in at that point does not matter. He stopped play.
Rafa was right. Carlos and Rafa both stopped play thinking the ball was out, but it was in. Normally you’d replay the point, but Carlos thought Nadal hit the ball out of play after the call so he said Nadal lost the point. Nadal had hit the ball in the court as he told Carlos, but Carlos must not have been paying attention.
@@SJ-di5zu I think Carlos was right. By putting his finger up and stopping, Nadal interrupted play and it made Berdych miss his next shot. This is a hindrance so even though Nadal hit the ball back in, he loses the point because Berdych did not miss during the point.
@@theaviator1152 What you’re missing is Carlos stopped play too. Normally the player who stops play loses the point, but Carlos actually called “out” at the same time as Nadal, and Berdych was actually the one who challenged the call. How can Nadal automatically lose the point off a Berdych challenge of a ball landing in, when Nadal also made the next shot in play?
Come on! Bernardes (the umpire) was clearly wrong. The ball is called out. Then Berdych challenges. The Hawk Eye proves him right: the ball was in. And Nadal had clearly stroke the ball back into the court. How can Bernardes give the point to Berdych? He should've said : "Replay the point". That's it!
You can see Nadal's hand up before Carlos makes the call. Therefore Nadal stopped play first. And he was wrong. So the point is for his opponent. Carlos is right.
@@Ilegator In the end that is for the umpire to decide. Nadal stopped play first. Nadal was wrong. He loses the point. That's all that matters. Carlos' call made the entire thing confusing, but in the end his conclusion was correct.
Nadal is wrong here in my opinion. He stopped play well before the umpire called the ball out. That in itself is a hindrance and he should lose the point because of it.
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe I think that was the ruling though? Perhaps I've misunderstood but I can't see any other reason why the umpire would give the point to Berdych.
@@altruism8637 it’s the same action. If he received his challenge, the ball would’ve been in and he still would’ve lost the point. If he called it out, it’s the same result, bc he surrenders the point, turning his back as a hinderance to Berdych. on your opponent. Otherwise your opponent could dump the ball into the net intentionally, seeing that you surrendering the point by raising your hand (universal call of out) AND turning your back. It’s obvious why it would be problematic to be able to consider a point still “live” or replayable after doing this. It is a hinderance to your opponent because you have given up. Once you give you up by raising your hand “out” and turning your back (whether you are right or wrong about the call), your opponent has no need or responsibility to continue play, no matter where the return shot lands, bc that return shot cannot count as a continuation of play. End of story!
Rafa stopped then rose his arm... So it's a challenge. And yes he lost the point. All the confusion cale from the umpire who calls it out... He was influenced by nadal
Other players: "Call the supervisor".
Nadal: I'll do it myself
no matter the controversy, watching the 2010 rafa play is such a delight
Still hurts that he didn’t win this tournament last year. 2010 and 2013 he made the finals but ran into confident Federer and Djokovic on arguably their favorite surface, so as well as he played to make the final both years he couldn’t beat both of them back to back. But last year, he was up 6-3 5-4 against Medvedev and in the final would’ve had an epic matchup with Thiem that he totally had a chance to win. It’s such a shame he blew the match against Medvedev.
He didn't actually blow it. I'm pretty sure Medvedev just played too well in that moment. Djokovic was up 4-0 in the tiebreak in last year's ATP Finals, but Thiem started blasting backhand winners.
@@hello-mv6yg He was serving for the match at 5-4 and played a really bad game. That was his chance right there. Also in the tiebreak he was really tight. In the 3rd set Medvedev played really well but Nadal also seemed gassed if I remember right. It was definitely a match Nadal should’ve closed out, but yeah it happens. Just sucks that he didn’t get his shot at the title and we didn’t get the Nadal/Thiem final, which is the best spectacle in tennis right now imo (Nadal/Djokovic just tends to be a little too surface specific even though the tennis quality is amazing).
last year was really the dumbest.
He can still win it.
The commentator was right in saying that the umpire shouldn’t have called out,
given that Rafa had already stopped play with a challenge. It only confused things and made the decision less credible.
there was nothing confusing mate. Rafa was just wrong.
@@TheRafaelBond I’ll demonstrate why it’s objectively confusing. Whose challenge was the Hawkeye?
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe Berdych of course
@@TheRafaelBond No, it was Nadal's challenge. Here's what happened:
Rafa stopped play, challenging an 'in' call
Umpire called the ball out (null and void because point was already over)
Rafa's challenge is wrong and ball is in
Rafa loses point
@@tomr6955 are you dumb? nadal returned the ball! nadal did not challenge anything, he was saying it was out. the umpire calls it out, which has nothing to do with anything nadal did. BERDYCH challenges it. you replay the point. if it was the case that it was called in, rafa challenges it, its called in, then rafa loses the point. get it????
Rafa was right here.
That ball could only have been called out if either:
a) Rafa challenges it and it's proven out
b) the umpire overrules the linesman
In normal circumstances, because Rafa stopped play and indicated he thought the ball was out, the call should have led to a challenge that was either proven or disproven. If disproven, Rafa loses the point. If proven, he wins the point.
However, the umpire also overruled the call of the linesman, changing the official decision to be OUT. Rafa putting his finger up to say he thinks something is out does not change the official call, and him putting his finger up should never affect the decision of the umpire to overrule. Hence Berdych was actually challenging the umpire, and it was the umpire's mistake to overrule and call it out, hence the point should be replayed.
Rafa made his mistakes, acting before the umpire, the chronological order matters. The challenge showed the ball was in. Bernardes interfered unnecessarily, but doesnt change the fact that Rafa had to lose the point.
@@vakumjovencito1321 whatever Rafa says about the ball is irrelevant for the umpire. If Bernardes gets influenced by him, its still Bernardes' call.
@@Ilegator So you can do whatever mistake , whatever fault to your opponent, if the umpire says its okay then its okay? Anyway Bernardes most likely realized that he intervened unnecessarily, and finally gave the point to Berdych- and according to you also - what matters only is the umpire ' s last call right, so, I dont know what we even discuss here.
@@vakumjovencito1321 If you have watched a bit of tennis, u should know that they never correct themselves because they can't, even when they know afterwards they were wrong.
@@Ilegator Bernardes just did it here, didnt he? Tell me any other case when this happens, player stops the point and umpires overrules? Never. Why? Because once a player stops he has the responsibility, the umpire cant take it from him, Bernardes realized his mistake, corrected himself, and rightfully gave the point to Tomas.
Do not make Rafa angry, he will make you pay for it later in the match 😅
technically nadal lost that point because he challenged/stop play before carlos said out. however, carlos said he missed the ball which he didn’t which made the matter worse. very tricky situation for everyone and carlos shouldn’t of called out when rafa technically challenged
I don’t think that it matters that Nadal stopped the point before the call came though. No matter what a player does with his body as long as a call came and the player out the ball back in play the point is replayed
5:23 escena del punto
The problem here is that the umpire should have called a challenge from rafa, not call it out. Then Rafa would challenge, the ball is in and the point goes to Berdych.
Beardick hits like 4:37 but cries like a baby when hit with one by Almagro
Nadal was furious and rightly so! Bernardes is indefensible!
What? Rafa was completely in the wrong here lol and I love him
@@TheRafaelBond Absolutely not! The ball is called out. Then Berdych challenges. The Hawk Eye proves him right: the ball was in. And Nadal had clearly stroke the ball back into the court. How can Bernardes give the point to Berdych? He should've said : "Replay the point". That's it!
@@cervantes1168 The rule is when a player ends the point he loses it if he is wrong. Nadal ends the point. Go learn the rules.
@@TheRafaelBond Have you forgotten that umpire Bernardes called the ball out at 5:25 ? Watch the video again! In all fairness, Bernardes must call "Replay the point".
@@cervantes1168 Rafa turns away, raises his hand to sign challenge way before Bernardes calls it out, you're the one who should check it again
Respect for nadal.. he didnt used abusive language towards umpire like other player.. nadal has great on court behaviour
WHEN YOU COME AT THE KING, YOU BEST NOT MISS!!
No one works harder for every point than Rafa. He plays every point like his life depended on it.
This was intense🤩
Never make the King of Tennis angry😏😋😍🥰... Those colors look so good on Rafa😍, What an attractive handsome man he is😍....
The true reason why Nadal lost the point was that he stopped play (in order to request his challenge) and so Berdych complained that Nadal had hindered him by doing so. Regardless of whether or not Nadal won the challenge, and whether or not he returned the ball in (on which the umpire was incorrect), his manner of challenging was not subtle and technically occurred while the point was still active (since nobody had called the ball out yet), meaning he disrupted Berdych. So all in all awarding Berdych the point is actually the fairest ruling the umpire could have given, although it’s certainly understandable why Nadal thought otherwise. I hope this clears up some confusion.
Yeah. Nadal should not be rewarded for Bernandes making a wrong call on the overrule. This was Berdych's point. Nadal clearly stopped play before the overrule came in, so he would have lost the point regardless. People who think otherwise are just wrong.
umpire's mistake should not be counted by players, obvious they can cancel this point or replay that point so it's fair for both players
This nadal versionwas just unbeatable
Well Fed beat him in The Final. So . . .
Nah serena has most tantrums
Nadal stopped play with a challenge, and coincidentally at the same time the umpire called the ball out. Then Berdych challenged the call. Then the challenge went ahead and it turned out the ball was in. I think the umpire then thought the challenge that just went ahead was Nadal's challenge and Not Berdych's. Maybe, in all the confusion, the umpire forgot he called the ball out and also didn't see Berdych challenging the call. The rule the umpire then used was that Nadal stopped play mid-rally and the ball was in, so Nadal loses the point for stopping play without good reason. Nadal then argued that the point should be replayed because he returned the ball in court after Berdych's shot. This is true, but from the umpire's perspective - that Nadal stopped play to challenge - it's irrelevant. Nadal should have clarified that the umpire stopped play when the umpire called "out", which made Nadal's challenge void, and then Berdych's challenged the out call. Looking at the replay, it isn't clear who the umpire says is challenging the call. It sounds more like, "Nadal" than "Berdych", though it's not clear. The footage clearly shows Berdych challenging the call. So basically, it's quite complicated.
Berdych is officially challenging the call not Nadal. The point was given to berdych because Nadal challenging before the call was considered him “stopping the point.” Honestly that’s not a bad argument considering if there was no call made Nadal would have lost the point because he challenge beforehand. Definitely a complicated one cause like you said his challenge maybe could be considered void. Love to know the rule book on this.
Rafa ,si Tu ESTAS sobrado hombre 😂😂😂
I think it's pretty clear. Nadal stopped play thinking the ball was out not due to any interference. Doesn't matter what he did after whether he hit the ball into the court or anything.
Now, Bernardes calling out in error late...honestly it doesn't matter. If he hadn't, Nadal would have challenged and lost the point anyways.
If anyone watching this video will ever play against Rafa, I can only give you one piece of advice...
DO NOT MAKE HIM ANGRY. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR ANYONE EXCEPT HIM.
Tough situation technically though I think he would lose the point because of the challenge . Regardless if carlos said out which he did nadal challenged meaning he didnt make a legitimate play . Carlos messed up saying rafas ball was out .
I don’t think it matters what you do with your body though as long as a call is made and you put the ball back in play
@@Zarlock0 That is very much not true and I think it's the main misunderstanding people have here. Raising a finger, which Rafa clearly does before Bernandes makes the call, is considered to be a sign that you want to challenge a call and hence it's considered to mean you stopped play. If you think a ball is out, want to challenge, but your challenge is wrong, then you lose the point. Otherwise the challenge system would be suspectible to all kinds of exploitation like people challenging balls when they're about to lose a point just to get a replay.
Even if technically the "out" from Carlos came at the same time, that still doesn't matter because Nadal clearly challenged thinking that the call was in. Why else do you think he raised his finger? Him hitting the ball in at that point does not matter. He stopped play.
i miss prime berdych
This was intense, I still cant decide who is right
Rafa was right. Carlos and Rafa both stopped play thinking the ball was out, but it was in. Normally you’d replay the point, but Carlos thought Nadal hit the ball out of play after the call so he said Nadal lost the point. Nadal had hit the ball in the court as he told Carlos, but Carlos must not have been paying attention.
@@SJ-di5zu I think Carlos was right. By putting his finger up and stopping, Nadal interrupted play and it made Berdych miss his next shot. This is a hindrance so even though Nadal hit the ball back in, he loses the point because Berdych did not miss during the point.
@@theaviator1152 What you’re missing is Carlos stopped play too. Normally the player who stops play loses the point, but Carlos actually called “out” at the same time as Nadal, and Berdych was actually the one who challenged the call. How can Nadal automatically lose the point off a Berdych challenge of a ball landing in, when Nadal also made the next shot in play?
Come on! Bernardes (the umpire) was clearly wrong. The ball is called out. Then Berdych challenges. The Hawk Eye proves him right: the ball was in. And Nadal had clearly stroke the ball back into the court. How can Bernardes give the point to Berdych? He should've said : "Replay the point". That's it!
Nadal is def wrong
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You can see Nadal's hand up before Carlos makes the call. Therefore Nadal stopped play first. And he was wrong. So the point is for his opponent. Carlos is right.
En resumen . mejor no cabrear a Rafa 😂
For Rafa's standards it may seem like a tantrum, for the Gen Z it is lullaby :D
Rafa is right there
Rafa was wrong
honestly, i think it was the right call from carlos, nadal had already stopped, doesn’t matter if his ball went in
It's simple. If Bernardes, who overrules the linesman, calls the ball out, the point has to be repeated.
@@Ilegator In the end that is for the umpire to decide. Nadal stopped play first. Nadal was wrong. He loses the point. That's all that matters. Carlos' call made the entire thing confusing, but in the end his conclusion was correct.
BRAVO NADAL !
bernardes is incompetent af.
Novak would give point in grace without discussions!
Bullshit
Lol, maybe you should see Novak freak out against Tsonga in Shanghai then.
why all Slavic ppl have this same tendency to defend their players like religion. I will never understand that ahahah. calm down please..
ha ha thanks for the laughs... gosh - more likely he would have sent a round yellow colored missile in the direction of the umpire....
lol you clearly didn't see Novak in Dubai arguing with the umpire that Medvedev should've received a foot fault
That’s Nadal’s biggest “tantrum”? And he had a point, accdg to commentator? Man… nothing compared to the other spoiled brats 😁😁
There is nothing controversial about this, Rafa stopped playing, according the rules, he loses the point.
Here is a video where Federer loses the point because he didn't stop playing. czcams.com/video/gQOVhXsUuO4/video.html
Nadal is wrong here in my opinion. He stopped play well before the umpire called the ball out. That in itself is a hindrance and he should lose the point because of it.
I agree that Rafa was in the wrong but to rule it a hindrance is surely an additional, separate matter
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe I think that was the ruling though? Perhaps I've misunderstood but I can't see any other reason why the umpire would give the point to Berdych.
did rafa call it out or he challanged?
@@altruism8637 I was thinking the same bc if he challenged Rafa isn't wrong.
@@altruism8637 it’s the same action. If he received his challenge, the ball would’ve been in and he still would’ve lost the point. If he called it out, it’s the same result, bc he surrenders the point, turning his back as a hinderance to Berdych. on your opponent. Otherwise your opponent could dump the ball into the net intentionally, seeing that you surrendering the point by raising your hand (universal call of out) AND turning your back. It’s obvious why it would be problematic to be able to consider a point still “live” or replayable after doing this. It is a hinderance to your opponent because you have given up. Once you give you up by raising your hand “out” and turning your back (whether you are right or wrong about the call), your opponent has no need or responsibility to continue play, no matter where the return shot lands, bc that return shot cannot count as a continuation of play. End of story!
Rafa stopped then rose his arm... So it's a challenge.
And yes he lost the point.
All the confusion cale from the umpire who calls it out... He was influenced by nadal