The Most Out of Station Interchanges In One Journey
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- An OSI is an 'Out of Station Interchange' on the TfL Network where you can leave one station ... and walk to another but it charges as you as a continuation, rather than two separate fares.
There are only certain places on the system where you can do this, and I thought I'd try a journey that included as many as possible ... and explain how they worked as I went can I get from Harrow & Wealdstone to Barking by a very convoluted route and only pay for one fare?
Oyster Rail website: www.oyster-rai...
And the complete list of all OSI's: www.oyster-rai...
TfL Maximum Journey Times: tfl.gov.uk/far...
Oyster Helpline Operator: (sigh) Yes, Geoff?
This actually had my laughing
I'm dead
😂😂😂
I bet that after you contacted TFL, a worker at TFL will have told their colleagues: "that Geoff Marshall made an absolutely ludicrous journey again, what the hell does that guy think he is doing?".
There should be special 'Geoff Marshall' criteria for OSIs that allows extra time and interchanges.
Geoff Marshall calls are probably part of the job description. They probably know his number from memory.
He's testing their IT systems for free!
The thing about Geoff is, he always walks between the interchanges!
Any long related travel enquiries they get now is probably known to them as ‘ doing a Geoff ‘. “ Mabel, I got someone on the phone, he’s doing a Geoff “ .
Ooh, now I want to see that 20-zone Watford Junction to Gatwick journey!
I bet you get even more time for contactless Reading to Gatwick Airport - not that anyone would do that via London, when there's direct trains via Guildford
@@bjornhattan6026 In theory they (TfL/GWR/GTR) could set up the contactless technology to handle that case (charging circa £20 for a direct single ticket in peak vs. £40+ via central London), but the guards would need to be equipped with an contactless reader to validate that you touched in at Reading/Gatwick. So probably not going to happen, use your contactless card to buy a paper ticket instead
only 2 trains if you get overground then southern to east croydon, tap out then tap in again (saves you money) then get a thameslink/southern to gatwick airport which is probably around £3.50 i believe
TFL Employee's wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat screaming: 'Geoff!!!!'
its thier worst nightmare.
AKA how to make a train journey where you have to walk for 80% of it.
I can imagine that when Geoff calls TFL, the operator on the other end covers their mic, leans over to a coworker and says “Oh my, it’s Geoff again,”
Geoff: How many OSIs can we get for the small price of £1.50?
Also Geoff: And I paid extra on a different card to travel to a ticket machine.
SPOILER ALERT: Geoff's Oyster card explodes
Underrated
It can’t explode :/
Love how you changed from the Overground to Jubliee (or vice versa) at 3 places in such a short space.
I saw that and was like “wait, that’s illegal”, I would be surprised that such a move would be allowed if I didn’t have some knowledge on Oyster...
Do a video on the shortest journey where you get on all the underground lines.
I did this myself once:
1. East Acton to Notting Hill Gate (central line)
2. Notting hill gate to Edgware road (circle line)
3. Edgware road to Baker st ( H&S line)
4. Baker st to Finchley road ( Met line)
5. Finchley road to Baker st(Jubilee)
6. Baker st to Oxford Circus (Bakerloo)
7. Oxford Circus to Green park (Victoria)
8. Green Park to South Ken (Piccadilly)
9. South Ken to Embankment (District)
10. Embankment to Waterloo (Northern)
11. Waterloo to Bank (W&C)
12. Bank to Shadwell (DLR)
13. Shadwell to Canada Water (Overground)
@@Ankursawant that's brilliant, would love to see that video
@@brumsgrub8633 I didn't do the video though, I just did the journey 2 years ago when I had just arrived to London for the first time.
@@Ankursawant wow thats impressive knowledge for your first time in London
What a brilliant thing to do in a new city. You probably became a true Londoner within weeks. Perhaps Geoff will make a video of your journey and credit you with its discovery?
I'd love have heard the phone call where you explained why you were taking such a weird route!
A few years ago I had to phone them up because something went wrong when I was photographing various stations and so had made lots of journeys. The only comment was "busy day".
"Hi, my name's Geoff Marshall, and I..."
"I understand completely, sir."
@@catfish552 Either that or "Oh, it's you again. What do you need _this_ time?"
@@andrew_ray 😂
"I was playing Mornington Crescent in real life..." 😈
Good to see that the gates open now with an exceeded maximum journey time. Back when I had one, many years ago when ticket offices were still staffed, the gates didn't open, and I got a "Seek Assistance" even though there were enough funds on my Oyster card to cover two maximum fares. It took a while to get that sorted out while the agent grilled me about what route I took and why it took so long.
And this is how the simulated passengers in Cities in Motion 2 do.
I don’t live in the UK but I love to watch these videos thinking how Geoff is single handedly throwing tfl stats all out of whack with his bizarre journeys
For some strange reason I'm hopelessly addicted to a very specific part of his content: The very, very, *very* early morning portions of his big challenge-run videos. I don't know why, but something about Geoff and his mates in a chipper frame of mind at 5:20AM just makes my heart take wing. I could watch an entire video of just him getting up crazy early and then starting something, over and over.
7:07 satisfying door beeps in key with the music
great editing!
How many people went back to 7:00 to see the editing masterclass?
And at 5:11 (listen from 5:07... bing bong!), and the dot matrix flashing at 11:30. Such fun! I look forward to the chart-topping Tube song and music video that this surely presages.
It is UNBELIEVABLY SATISFYING that all the oyster card beeps and train door beeps were in the same key as the music in this video... Thanks you so much
Just revisiting this video after a few years, so weird that now a good deal of this journey is part of my daily commute! Love the West Hampstead OSI the most!
Stuff like this really shouldn't be cool, yet here I am, absolutely loving it!
You ended your trip at Barking? You're mad, I tell you!
Barking mad
Beat me to the obvious joke
Barking, Upminster and Bow mate....
Barking up the wrong tree here?
I just wished the station got an upgrade though like it looks so poor
We have “out of system transfers” between subway stations here, there used to be more, but they’ve cut them back to just one, between Lexington Ave/59th Street on the 4-5-6-N-R-W and Lexington Avenue 63rd Street on the F-Q since. Plus you can have a free transfer on your Metrocard for approximately 2 hours between a bus or a subway, but if you take the Staten Island Railroad (which is free to enter at any station aside from St George Ferry Terminal) all the way to the ferry and exit through the turnstiles (only station in the city with pay to exit) it gives you 2 free transfers. The ferry is also free, so technically it’s 3 free transfers. (Doesn’t stop people from getting out at the stop before the ferry and walking 1/2 mile to not pay at all.)
There are more out of system transfers but there is only one permanent one between Lexington Avenue stations. I think some stations near the L line because of the Canarsie tunnel shutdown.
There's also another one near the southern tip of Brooklyn, between 86th Street (N) and Avenue X (F) until spring 2020 because the MTA is doing work to protect Coney Island Yard from flooding, so N trains terminate at 86th Street.
The Staten Island Railway now has TWO paid stations, St. George and Tomkinsville, the two closest to the ferry. You can no longer take the SIR almost to St. George, get off at Tomkinsville and walk to the ferry terminal, never paying a fare. You need your Metro Card to get in AND OUT of both St. George and Tomkinsville. As said above, all other subway stations only require you to swipe in, never to swipe out. About 80% of SIR riders are going to or from the ferry. So the MTA gets fares out of most riders, even if all the other SIR stations have no turnstiles or fare collection system. But at least you get a free transfer to or from a subway or bus in Manhattan and another free transfer to or from a S.I. bus.
06:25 "all the OSIs". Yep. Sounds like a good idea, that, Geoff!
Temporary OSIs were introduced between Aldgate and Aldgate East during the 2012 Olympics. TfL ignored my lobbying to make them permanent. The route is sensible as the Hammersmith and City line usually has a 10 minute service interval, while competing lines have 3 or less.
I'm from Australia and I love the underground, I spent a few days last year just riding the tube to all different parts of London. Amazing fun!!
0:33 For some reason, autofocus cares more about the sign over Geoff's shoulder: "Some times it's alright not to be alright."
He should get a Sony if he wants reliable autofocus, or a newer Canon mirrorless
This video explains a lot. In London back in March, I spent about three hours just riding the tube. When I eventually tapped out, it tapped me in again and I was charged a few quid more than I expected.
This man will not stop breaking records on the tube
Geoff showing us how much entertainment value he can get for spending just about the cost of a beer $5 give or take.... lol...
Not sure if sitting on trains for hours is entertaining
@@Mkbw50 Wrong group :)
@@DavidChapmanAZ group?
And for less than those calypso drinks that everyone buys in my class (£3)
Surely, the way to join the most OSIs together is to do exactly what Geoff did, *but* start back at Watford Junction and continue beyond Barking to Grays - the extra zones transitted will "buy" more time on the maximum journey time without needing any more touch in/outs?
What I love about this is that you couldn't do it but you stuck with the fact. You didn't reshoot to correct the error or cover it over with some sort of fix. Love the honesty and the cheerful integrity. Refreshing and good for you because the piece is actually better for it. Good job mate!!
Idly watching yesterday's quaint programme on C4 about railways in Scotland..... oh, hello Geoff!
The opening shot caught my eye - a view I have often seen at Harrow & Wealdstone. I said out loud what his first change would be a moment before he said it as it's a walk I have often done between Kenton and Northwick Park.
The other Zone 1 dotted line is Euston / Euston Square - it's always a handy changeover between the lines that one (and even more so when the eastbound exit is built eventually!)
So it'll no longer be an OSI!
Switching on Captions and turning down the volume brings a whole new dimension to the video. Good Work Geoff
only bcs of this channel i have learnt to use pink card readers and out of station interchanges. I must have spent hundreds over the years not doing that and i bet many still do.
the only good thing bout public transportation in London being so bloody complicated is the existence of this channel
I reckon on a good day with a bit of jogging and no hold ups, you could do these 8.
Perivale - Hanger Lane OSI to
Park Royal - Hammersmith OSI to
Hammersmith (CaH) - Wood Lane OSI to
White City - Queensway OSI to
Bayswater - Paddington (District) OSI to
Paddington (HammersmithC)to Edgware Road (HammersmithC) OSI to
Edgware Road (Bakerloo) - Baker Street OSI to
Marylebone NR - Sudbury Hill Harrow OSI
Sudbury Hill - Sudbury Town (leaving at the best station)
A new Geoff Marshall video series is born :"Least used OSI in (insert as applicable)"
Love seeing Northwick Park in these! I used to live on campus right outside the station and my friends and I had the run to Kenton down in maybe 4 minutes
Geoff you're absolutely barking. As mad as a packet of crisps. It makes for good videos.
And heading for Barking too!!
11:55 There's something wrong with that table of time limits, and it seems to have misled Geoff.
Geoff says it gives more time on Friday evenings, because column 2 says "after 19.00 Friday". However, it must really mean "Monday to Friday after 19.00", which it also says (with an erroneous comma). It's the rest of Monday to Friday, not included in column 1 "Monday to Friday 04.30 - 19.00".
It's a typo that is still there today. Table 1 (Travelling within Zones 1-4) correctly reads "Monday to Friday, after 19:00 & all day Saturday", whereas Table 2 (Travelling across all zones) reads "Monday to Friday, after 19:00 _Friday_ and all day Saturday". The latter adds "Friday" for no discernible reason. I agree that the comma is confusingly placed, and that they ought to read "Mon-Fri after 19:00, and all day Sat".
The reason for stipulating "after 19:00" rather than e.g. "at all other times" is that e.g. "Monday after 19:00" actually means "Monday 19:00 - Tuesday 04:30"; TfL uses 04:30 as the bound between days for travel purposes, since many people often make return journeys after midnight (see Night Tube [1]). So column 2 covers these "19:00 - 04:30 next day" time periods for Monday-Thursday, as well as Friday 19:00 - Sunday 04:30; and then column 3 ("Sunday") covers Sunday 04:30 - Monday 04:30.
[1] - tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/what-we-are-doing/night-tube
Oh bumholes. Saw one vid on Twitter and have been here for over an hour trying to drag myself away.
Londoner living away from London for two years for family reasons, returning in six months. Watching these vids make me feel normal/homesick in equal measure.
I bet TfL was ready for his call.
Geoff: Hi, this is Geoff.
TfL Operator: Hello. We've been expecting your call. The reason why it wasn't £1 is because......
Geoff: *stunned into silence
TfL Operator: Can we help you further?
Geoff: *sheepishly. No thank you! Keep up the good work!
I do the Northwick Park - Kenton change often traveling from Uxbridge to Watford High Street. It really is fantastic! Great video Geoff!
That was brilliant. Thanks. Also, Geoff, thanks for Seven Sister. My Nan and Grandad lived on St Loys Rd and Seven Sisters was the closest Tube station. Thanks for letting me see it again.
think i saw my old house in this video, literally used to live about five doors down from northwick park when i went to uni in harrow!
Here in Melbourne, Australia, we have a myki system where you put top up money on these special cards and tap on and off the platform. How much money it deducts depends on what zone your taking. Because our metro trains here in Melbourne are like your rail network system in the UK. (i.e. suburban trains and go N, W, S, E, SW, SW, NE, SE) the only paper ticketing system is the country trains heading to Albury, Shepparton, Geelong and so forth.
If you ever come down to Melbourne, I am more than happy to show you around :)
cheers for an incredible video!!!
Big Brother oyster, must have great fun tracking you around system
Great idea for a new series: All the Greggs, all 1700 of them!
Was thinking before clicking on the video, will he time out? Yup :/
I use the fenchurch to monument OSI to get greggs on a Friday morning. Got to get from barrier to barrier in 20 mins.
Maybe a way to get more total time is to start at a outer national rail Station. Or even Gatwick!.
You can travel though more zones quicker, yet get more time. Then do the OSIs
No OSI at Tottenham Hale is complete without a 19min trip to the artisanal boutiques of the Retail Park. There is also a Greggs.
Manument Bonk🤣🤣
What this bloke does in his videos is totally ridiculous and utterly pointless. Yet somehow I really enjoy them.
The explanation of the route and OSI 1, OSI 2, OSI 3, OSI 4 etc etc etc made my eyes go round and round
All the OSI's. all of them.
You had me at Harrow and Wealdstone. I grew up here and I still remember climbing those huge stairs as a four year old c 1979.
It would have beeen really interesting to see the same journey being done by contactless card and how they are charged differently in these extreme circumstances.
The CTA in Chicago has these, too. They’re only used between certain stations downtown but any transfer (even if you’re not coming from the other connecting station) is free at those stations. This works at State/Lake on the loop elevated, Lake on the Red line, Washington on the Blue line, Harold Washington Library on the loop elevated and Jackson on both the Red and Blue line. All other stations with connections allow you to transfer without exiting the station.
I do a lot of travelling in London and I didn't realise there was a time limit - I'll walk a bit faster now! Really informative, thanks :) x
he appreciates the kiss
Merry Christmas! ;) x
Appropriate finishing point - you have to be Barking mad to do that route.
Geoff, you are a martyr to the cause. Enjoyed your video. Would be interesting to know if you retraced your OSI journey to Barking on a Sunday would have cost you £1 as more time is permitted.
Barking to Bow Road, Bow Church to Canary Wharf DLR and then Jubilee to whereever for a few more OSIs!
Loved seeing you on Channel 5..
what prog / link?
You missed out my favourite OSI, Camden Town to Camden Road, such a convenient way to get around London without going through Zone 1!
I once hit that TfL time limit going the "long way round" the orbital Overground route to get to Shepherd's Bush...
Me: I get off trains...
Geoff: Gets on off trains
Geoff gets off with trains🤣
I've had Oyster problems at Harrow and Wealdstone too, touch-in's and/or touch-out's not recognised, and having to apply for refunds afterwards. Watford Junction to Gatwick would be interesting, as although they allow more time for the journey with Oyster, you can (if you time it right by getting the hourly Milton Keynes-Croydon service and changing at Clapham Junction) do that journey relatively quickly!!
I think Geoff either composed or picked music which is in the same key as the 'doors closing' sound. Satisfying!
I was deeply shocked to see the trains looking like tube trains at Brondesbury and Frognal as when I used to use that line for school the trains were those kind you had to put your arm out of the window to open the door. There was even a 'Ladies Only' carriage.
Again your ingenuity is dazzling Geoff! How do you think up these adventures?
Crazy, but great fun.
Your videos are so much fun and I like them.
Great video, but what about the following..
Steps?
Calories burned ? And
Mileage?
I mean, is that the most efficient gym work out for £1.50?
Shortest journey possible on the most amount of lines
I feel like the knotted tube video was pretty close to that
North Ealing to West Acton should be an OSI and it's not. Probably because hanger lane to park royal is, but if you're going in to London it's a nicer walk than walking along the A40
An OSI which has never happened is between Whitechapel and Bethnal Green NR which are a short walk. My guess is they haven't down it to protect revenue on Southern with passengers coming from South to NE London without going into Zone 1. (The reason behind Shoreditch High Street being in Z1).
Always good to find the reason even if it isn't the answer desired.
So, unless I'm terribly mistaken, making this trip as a two-leg journey will save Geoff £1.70, which just happens to be the price of a 355ml hot tea from the Starbucks across the street from the Archway station - just what you need for a ~20 minute wait. _I love it when a plan comes together..._ 😎
This video is an OSI (On-Site Inspection) of OSI (Out of Station Interchange)
Get this guy on TV he has a great personality
If you speak to staff at a Tube station, or contact the Customer Services phone line, they'll be able to register that failed tap-in and tap-out. :)
@@geofftech2 Ohhhhh, that's so annoying. D: Sorry, Geoff! Maybe next time.
Cannot believe you were right around the corner from me at Bromley-by-Bow! XD
I did all this but was late for work so not doing again!
As someone from Berlin, I was shocked when I needed two tickets when I attempted this somewhere that wasn't an official "OSI", as our system is so simple compared to London.
3 zones, stamp and you can go anywhere in the zones for that ticket (eg. A&B) on busses, metro, tram light rail in any combination for 2 hours. No barriers and beautifully simple.
Yay, I live near Northwick Park, I make that walk to Kenton all the time
That was waaayy more interesting than I thought it would be - thanks...
Thanks for explaining that Geoff. Happens at Shepherd's Bush, Overground to Underground and vice versa, saves me £1.50 using the tube, instead of the bus to Holland Park.
I'm going to try and attempt this, great video Geoff :)
OSI 7 at SEVEN Sisters?
OSI 7 layer model.
In Munich, we have no barriers at stations, just time limits on the tickets. Short hop = 1 hr; 4 zones (i.e. max) = 4 hours. The only rule is that you have to keep going in one direction. Therefore you could buy a ticket in the city centre, leave the ststion and walk all the way to the airport station (4 zones). This would take about four hours, so you see the system works.
This is like an entertaining PSA about OSIs.
I thought I was a little bit nuts to count all the possible public transport journeys in Sydney between Dulwich Hill and Central. It is thirteen at last count with the anomaly that the only single mode (single seat) journey (without a long walk) by light rail is usually the slowest because its route is so indirect.
Perhaps Geoff would do an interview on which origin/destination pairs have the most alternative routes travelling by TfL?
All the OSIs 👍
Tube inspectors - we have suspicious activity. Oh wait it just Geoff on a challenge run , lets see if he makes it.
The final screen should have come up "OSI achievement unlocked"
Your so lucky that the trains are so frequent and there were no major delays holding things up. Unlike Victoria Australia where delays are a daily occurrence.
With all of those OSIs you might as well just have walked from Harrow to Barking
Geoff, how can you squeeze in the deep level tube lines? Especially Piccadilly and Bakerloo? The train is too low for a person of your height. I am 10cm shorter than you and I still feel uncomfortable standing on a Piccadilly train.
The Glasgow Subway laughs at the sheer size of the tube trains!
I think. I've never actually been to London
@@r.alexandercorbitt1554 Yes. I've been to Glasgow and the subway trains are laughably small. I can't even stand straight on them. I'm 1.81m by the way.
@@eastpavilion-er6081 The track gauge is actually narrower as well
Brilliant video. Thank you for sharing this Geoff that was great information.
You can do this in Washington DC if you exit from Farragut North (Red line) and walk outside to Farragut West (Orange/Blue/Silver lines). They did this when the smart cards were introduced several years ago and it avoided needing a tunnel between the two stations.
When Crossrail opens you will have the Jubilee-Canary Wharf, Crossrail-Canary Wharf, DLR- West India Quay/Poplar/Canary Wharf/Heron Quay complex to play with, all separate stations despite the same name and all linked by OSIs
Interesting that you like the Bombardier trains. They've gotten a rather bad reputation in Canada. There's been delays after delays on the delivery of trains to the TTC. They've gotten a subsidy for the C series of airplanes, and ended up selling it to airbus. They gave bonuses to the executive right after getting that subsidy which made them seem really out of touch with the general public. They are on a rather tight leach and have likely lost a major contract as a result of the pileup of problems there's been theses last few years.
@@geofftech2 Apparently also problems with introducing Bombardier trains to Greater Anglia routes, although the Stadtler FLIRTS which will be used on the rest of the GA routes (and also in Wales) also having significant problems, too.
Ha, ha, this is top-notch nerdish. And I love it!
Makes my trenton-ewr (NJT rail), ewr-terminal A (monorail), terminal A-newark penn (NJT bus), newark penn-newark broad street (NJT light rail), newark broad street-hoboken terminal (NJT rail), hoboken terminal-33rd street (PATH), 34th-south ferry (NYC sbway) trip look simple by comparison!
I think that you need to do a OSI Challenge - how many OSIs you can do in the time limit.
Yaaay Geoff came to Forest Gate. Geoff was like meh, it's Forest Gate, nothing to see here. Let's cut the editing.😂😂😂