Anthony Joshua OR Deontay Wilder - Who Will Be DEFEATED?
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Brilliant video lads keep up the good work ♥️♥️♥️👍👍
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I love this group. Great balance of opinion, debate etc. loved the Fury v Francis stream. Can’t wait for the next one 👍🥊
Na guy in red seems like a casual! He needs to be gone!
@@adgepeterbYeah he gets muddled up in feelings a d loses objectivity often.
I know the Saudi card is the hot topic atm, but why is hardly anyone talking about Naoya Inuoe, or his upcoming match later this month? He's such an exciting fighter to watch, he's on the cusp of unifying a division in less than a year of jumping up to it, and it's like most people aren't even paying attention
That's usually the case with the smaller right classes. Unless you're Choclatito there's not much the media talks about
Once he beats Tapales he should be P4P no.1, but because he’s not American or in a glamour division he sadly won’t get the recognition.
Because he's juiced brother
@@mm2801or because you are an i*iot brother. :)))
Honestly no fighter except AJ and Canelo can make it alone regarding media attention and ticket sales dept . This is the most stacked card I have ever seen with a big possibility of undercard be exciting more than AJ and Wider fights
You guys are overlooking one significant factor!! The people putting up the money wanted to pay for Wilder and Joshua on the same card and wouldn’t put up the money for the main fight this time around! I think they want to build something much bigger! The people in charge are the bill payers simple!!!
Parker is really underrated. Wilder could be in for a surprise.
True, Wilder has fought only one B-Class fighter which is Ortiz. Rest of his knockouts are bums.
Man Wilder is going to flat Joseph Parker inside of 3 rounds easily
Parker is too washed for this fight now
Parker is getting slept
@@hassnatahmad5339Aj got smacked around by an obese bixer
Parker has a better chance of beating Wilder than Wallin has to beat Joshua
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Agreed he’s younger and has been more active. Wilder is older and I’m really worried about the conditioning right now
@@123beserk Parker has kO power, Wallin not
@@somah1470 true. Really more worried about wilder wining then Joshua. But the thing is Parker can’t really move his head well or better than fury and wilder still landed. He’s gotta knock out wilder first
Actually agree with this
Wallin will give AJ problems, but AJ will stop him
People give Wallin not enough credit, tbh I think he should beaten Fury on the basis of the nasty cut he gave him
@@petershortland478 not sure if Wallin should have won, but it was definitely closer to a draw than Fury vs Wilder 1 was!
@@jackhoward10 Fury won 8 rounds against Wallin so given the 2 10-8 rounds to Wilder it'd be about even .
@@petershortland478 I agree
In devastating fashion.
Let’s go, so much content lately absolutely loving it, hard living in aus to interact sometimes but watch every stream back 3 times over, keep it up, shame you can’t do the UFC’s would love to hear you opinion on Leon vs Colby and the whole Ian Garry situation 😂
Why cant he do the ufc?
@@iDjA7xi time difference means it’s late as in the uk normally, I guess he could but atm I guess the views aren’t worth getting up at 4 am fair enough tbh
I like how the panel just glosses over that AJ has made multiple offers, including 100 million that Wilder has turned down and yet AJ is Ducking Wilder.
AJ didn't offer 100 mil. He offered 12 and a 15 mil flat fee. DAZN made the 100 million offer but couldn't guarantee an AJ fight
@@basedjiren3889are you smoking crack so what fight did they offer him then
@@basedjiren3889End of the day , AJ back then was the biggest draw in heavyweight boxing and Wilder couldn’t fill a medium sized stadium ( at many of his defences , tickets were given away on the night , prior to his Fury fights) and he was barely known in the USA . Wilder was offered a career high payday, end of .
@basedjiren3889 When that fight was a draw, I told you that I would give you a rematch. You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I was getting to fight you. Again, being a man of my word, I fought you
like I said I would... literally Wilder's words when tweeting to Fury. We gotta stop pretending AJ didn't send him offers.
@basedjiren3889 they offered 12.5, then 15, then 20, then 40, then 100 +20 to fight Dominic Brezeal(which was his next fight, a voluntary defense) to fight on DAZN because Wilder had not resigned with Showtime/PBC. The 100 was to fight AJ. All the offers were career high paydays for Wilder, at the time Wilder hadn't made more than 8 for any fight.
2 things
1. Love the setup with these boys, very intelligent, and a clear understanding of boxing psychological mindset, and observations from a strategic point of view.
2. Where is the rest of the podcast?
(I checked the links and.... Nothing😭)
I’ve been hoping to see more of this link-up and here it is 🙌👏
It’d be great if it became a regular thing with these videos and also watchalongs as well.
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Everyone saying aj is gonna be the one to lose, I’m calling it , if any is to lose it’s gonna be wilder
Bang on
Great content! Got into boxing this year and the panel makes things easier! Much love!
Im fairly certain wilder is gonna spark parker out quite quickly. Id put money on it 😂
Parker is no mug.. and has better fundamentals than wilder. He could frustate wilder. But it's a hard ask to avoid that right hand
@@disclaimer.imjokin he is fury’s punk …
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Love how gordie is so honest! Love watching his videos
That’s where the true comes from
@@angejo5591true. Love how he’s a huge boxing fan like I am too
Great podcast. So informative. Thanks Lads. Big love, kindest regards, Richard U.K
AJ has being active AF. I think he is much better shape than Wilder, still Wilder has the erraser hook so.... hope to watch them fight someday
Imagine a misfits style tag team joshua and tyson vs wilder and francis
But that wouldn't be misfits
Or aj with fury wilder with uysk
@@emmettoliver he said Misfits style. Not Misfits itself.
What lmao
Think you should stick to watching WWE.That comment is embarrassing.
I think Joshua outpoints Wallin wide and Parker is going to expose Wilder.
This didn't age well, Parker just won every round against Wilder the wonder kid 😂 Fury had a Trilogy with this man, turning down Undisputed with Aj 🦆 Parker made easy work of him 😁
Come on lets be real Aj already agreed terms to fight wilder earlier in year so to say he didn't want it is bollox... same to wilder
Based on what or who ? Eddie Hearn ? lol
Not heard anyone say anything different. Except muppets online like you
Big up the undefeated pod 🥊
True Geordie, I've been looking for means to comment on your stuff but never possible. Anyway here is an opportunity. You're an absolute beast, because the way you say some stuff is completely crazy.
Lool i can't wait for the follow up to this haha the brothers in the back were dead on about AJ and Wilder but everyone predicted the main question wrong. AJ was locked in and Wilder was on prefect settings :D the performances speak for themselves
People massively underestimate AJ all the time. And put way too much expectations on him.
KG's got some 1 liners "prefect settings" looool
Agreed with Travis and KG about AJ in the main, but a few good points made by True Geordie and the other guest re. Wilder trying to make sure he secures the fight for the one last pay day before he retires and does Afrobeats. Also, the theory of mixing up the 4 Kings for the pleasure of the Saudis makes sense
Wilder being so nice to AJ is because his after ayahuasca. So Deontey was changed by magic plant, not by Fury )
And he is still one of the best heavyweights out there. Mentally his way beyond AJ.
And he already mentioned that he wants the winner of Fury - Usyk, so AJ is not the only option
He also mentioned he was going to fight Ngannou :)
I had a feeling Wilder may have been to the spirit realm. He seems to have matured, speaks like a gentleman with real love and respect for other fighters now.
I don't understand this whole "AJ's mentally weak" agenda..it sounds like a reach..
😂 let them keep think deontay is weak, Its maturity as you've mentioned, If he was still aggressive they'd say he was immature. But time is definitely gonna tell
Great Job Guys
wilder was 31 or 32 i think the first time he fought Ortiz while Ortiz was 38 and then 40 the two times he fought wilder, i get the argument but Parker today and a 40 year old Ortiz is not at all on the same thing, the only heavyweight that ever beat other high ranking boxers in their 40s that I can think of was George Foreman and he is the exception.
Love it when Geordie and Undefeated are back together!!
Wilder was filming Traitors US in Scotland in October and November the fight couldn’t happen this year. Any of them did any research they would know this
This aged veryyyy well 💀
🤣🤣🤣🤣Who's here after the AJ win and Wilder💩ing the bed!!!
The boxing analysis on here is comedic and should never be taken seriously.
Why do they all miss the biggest point in their discussion? The December date they had planned went up in smoke when Skills Challenge who they'd all agreed the fight with ceased to have control of the funds to make the fight and are now a defunct entity.
So this new December date was never on the table. That date was for Fury v Usyk and got abandoned because Ngannou beat Fury like he stole something.
AJ was offered the Wallin fight........and Wilder was not given as an option. So the situation is you take the fight against an opponent in Wallin that positions you for a title shot against Hrgovic, build links with the Saudi GEA (General Entertainment Authority) and Turki Alalshik who control the funds to make fights and get paid a shed load of money at the same time or you walk away and don't.
That fight with Wilder will happen when it works for the Saudi's.
All this duck talk is complete nonsense. What it says is the people saying this stuff pay zero attention to what their discussing and cannot follow a simple trail of breadcrumbs.
Wilder isn't ducking. AJ isn't ducking. They are all simply waiting for the guys with the bag to tell them when to jump and how high.
In the meantime depending on how long they have to wait they may get to fight Hrgovic for a vacant belt in the interim if AJ gets through Wallin.
I didn't think this was that complicated to grasp.
Nicely said. You just taught me exactly what’s going on In one sentence.
Can you get the beer also shipped in Europe or only the uk?
I just can't wait it's gonna be a great night of boxing roll on December 23rd!!!
9:00 I'm with KG 100% here.
That's why Wilder cried when he KOd Helenius. That was a real make or break fight and he REALLY NEEDED to prove to himself he could still knock people out after Fury. He masked by saying "we risk our lives in there" but this is a man who wanted to kill a boxer in the ring. He wasn't crying for anybody else, let's get that much clear! Lol.
Minus scared of aj
Deep inside he knows he's a fraud , and his promoter called him baby champion. Never faced someone who is in their prime and Fury was cherry picked and he beat him
😂 Yup, thats it, you figured it out
True Geordie vs Fury. It has to happen. Lets go!
Fury will duck
You should plug the undefeated podcast more often
I say both men to win. Wilder to win by KO and AJ to win on points or possibly a late stoppage. If AJ vs Wilder does happen I would go with a Wilder KO all day long, I would bet my life on it I'm that confident! I would like to see a Wilder vs Usyk personally because I think if anyone can KO Usyk then it's him over anyone else.
Its also good to see AJ being real rather than all this squeaky clean fake BS! AJ just needs to stop worrying about what's coming at him and concentrate on putting it on people like he used to do, Its either fear or too much respect for his opponents. If you look at AJ old fights he always looked alot more confident and now its the total opposite, If he can't get rid of that negative wary mindset he should quit boxing in my opinion.
Still bet your life on it? lol
@@DmDaPDm yeah I guess that's me done now 🤣
@@RagingBullsES Hahaha ahh mate lol you're not the only one who felt this way, we'd both be done if we put that bet down
Personally I think Parker would be Wilders best win..Yall said it was Ortiz....But ortiz never beat a top ten and has only fought two top tens.. Parker has been in there with Whyte, AJ, Ruiz, Joyce...And hes never been dominated..
AJ has way too much in his arsenal for Wilder to handle. For some reason people think wilder is the only danger in this fight, like AJ can’t stop wilder with both hands and a variety of punches. It’s not as clear cut as a lot of seem to think it is. AJ by KO within the first few rounds
Longer the fight goes on the more dangerous it becomes for aj. He needs to walk him down get him on the backfoot close the distance and let rip
@@disclaimer.imjokinon the contrary. Thebñonger the fight goes the more AJ is going to piece him up with his heavy duty jab or going downstairs.
To me the fight can go 2 ways. Either wilder goes full throttle and ko's AJ in round one or 2 at the earliest or AJ breaks him down and flattens him by the 6th
@@disclaimer.imjokinI think the opposite really, after a few rounds I think AJ will suss out wilders game plan and timing. AJ has a far superior boxing brain than wilder, as do many of wilders opponents, but 40+ fights and wilder is finally stepping up.
AJ couldn’t stop Jermaine Franklin with this ‘arsenal’ your talking about lol
@@dreadthedreads4567ped
9:00 KJ so wrong, wilder after losing out on one of the greatest fights, dropping fury after being hurt and then he comes back wipes the floor with his next opponent in less then a rnd.
12:34 Geezer says "Nah, Luis Ortiz 1" is Wilder's best win. Ortiz has zero pedigree, average amateur career, never fought anyone at Heavyweight etc. Parker is a former world champion who has a number of significant fights on his record.
Parker is leagues ahead of Ortiz. Ortiz only had the hype because Wilder's team built him up like that, he isn't the beast they made him out to be...
TG where is that shirt from
Wilder just looking for the Joshua retirement paycheck win or lose. I've always thought AJ stops him though!
This fight gonna be head to head and toy to toy ,it,s gonna great fun .and can't wait to watch this fight guys😎😎😎😎
Franklin was a tough fight for AJ and he deserves a lot of credits for going after AJ
If fighters get to the point where they're even close to being in the picture for a world title fight then they should be fukkin' ready ALL the time...
After that Fury v Francis fight I’m finding it hard to bother with any of these fights in boxing because it’s clearly all rigged unless there’s a knockout potentially. Really killed boxing for me.
love how u underestimated parker lol
Parker took some proper big punches from Joe Joyce until he got stopped, Parker is former world champ and has a quality trainer in Andy Lee who was also behind the tactics for fury wilder 2/3. I wouldn’t be surprised is Parker ends up winning, Wallin gave fury a hell of an effort in a fight that should of probably been stopped, wallin is a very tricky customer for AJ who hasn’t been great against southpaws
I knew this fight wouldn’t happen when I looked at AJ’s face after the Helenius fight.
It's gonna be interesting to see how they all perform.
I'm actually glad of this card.
All great fights. Dubois v Miller possible the most intriguing.
If aj fights Wilder one loses and is told it's over the media start acting like dickheads and it'd hard to make the big fights
I wanna see both ak and Wilder fight guys for as long as possible
This is more of a banana skin for wilder, Parker has good fundamentals and a great amateur pedigree, something that wilder avoided his entire career I think if wilder doesn’t put him away early I think Parker will take over and either win on points or maybe even stop him
Is the guy with glasses Roberto Blake?
We know how Saudi move. They set up the Uysk Fury fight and then set up a fight for Fury beofre that fight. I think the fight will be booked within a week or two after these fights
awesome card for dec 23rd
Deontay Wilder’s Had 46 Professional Fights & Has Only *ONE* Decent Win Coming Against Luis Ortiz 🤯
An old as fuck Ortiz as well
If he beats Parker him and Fury would have beat AJs 3 best wins in much more convincing fashion.
@@lordfarquard9902 Who Is AJ’s 3 x Best Wins Exactly? 🤷♂️
@@barrymurray4923 Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker and Dillian Whyte.
Who do you think his 3 best wins are?
Franklin?
Helenius?
Pulev?
Takam?
Charles Martin?
Molina?
Brazeale?
They’re all absolute garbage mate or am I wrong? 😅
@@barrymurray4923 His CV is way overhyped. Ain’t nobody convincing me those names are any good.
12:36 dude thinks wilder beating ortiz (who's acheived NOTHING) is a better win then if Wilder beats Parker! What a casual!
Anthony Joshua OR Deontay Wilder 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I'd have to go with Oleksandr Usyk
And just checked it out , When AJ beat the then in his prime and undefeated Parker , Wilder was taking on the hyped up club fighter Ortiz , just let that sink in
If we see Otto Wallin beating up AJ throughout the fight, do you really think these hired judges will agree with us?
They want Wilder vs AJ now. It will happen, by any means necessary.
Luiz Ortiz 1 wasn't a big win which top 10 heavyweight has Ortiz beat? Parker beat Ruiz
The guy with the red t shirt and red ear phones knows his stuff!
It makes all the sense in the world that Wilder would want to fight AJ and that, if one of them was guilty of avoiding that fight it's AJ.
Wilder really had nowhere left to go at this point. He's 39, Usyk and Fury are off the table, AJ's blurting about his ambition to becoming a 3 time champ and his next fight puts him in place for a chance at that should he win.
The reality is, and it kills me to say it since it's the fight I always wanted to see most, is AJ doesn't need Wilder. Wilder knows this, so I think that's why he's trying the Mr nice guy approach. He's still making noise about fighting AJ, that's the main thing, but you can do that by being the professional, or by turning over tables and wrestling on the ground at a press conference. But the bottom line is Wilder's been the one uploading vids and making noise about wanting to fight AJ.
Wilder is a very unintelligent man! He allowed himself to become the poster boy for this woke, race baiting, PBC, nonsense which did not allow him to reach his full earning and boxing potential. He should have taken the DAZN deal, crossed the street and backed himself to KO AJ. He could have become undisputed, inherited a lot of AJ's fanbase and had mega money fights in Saudi already. He allowed Al haymon to milk him and keep his career on a leash now he's desperate begging for the huge paydays he should have had already
Wilder is bang average as we all know but has a looping right hand but Parker is 7 years younger also been a world 🌍 champ he’s beaten Ruiz ( who is a handful) and wilder has been really inactive so Parker has a right chance 🥊🥊🥊👍👍
Better fight would have been Zhang vs Parker and Maybe Joyce vs Wilder on the big card.
Mr Motivator has aged so well😂
So many confused people here. AJ has literally told us all at the press conference that he wants to go after Hrgovic's belt to be a 3x Champion. He said he was on a different path with a different goal. Yet these people are still talking like this is a final eliminator for Wilder. SMH.
But if he beats Wilder he becomes the WBC number 1 mandatory.
@@rinoluciani9731 The WBC don't enforce sh1t.
This was good
My money is on JOE to beat the fun king HILLBILLY and I think we might just see a different AJ Ben Davidson would have told AJ a few home truths and he will come out guns blazing and he KO Wallin in 7.
Aj gotta be the most misquoted boxer around. Usyk was trying to comfort him after the loss by calling him strong , Aj then said well then how did you beat (as in being big and strong means nothing).
Funny how predictions go 😂😂
Noooo. Fury pulled put of the 23rs, so they had to fill the date for the Saudis. 6 weeks notice is far too close for such a mega fight. Did the best they good with the time they had.
Crazy saying AJ is more likely to slip up. At what point in recent years (bar Usyk) has he looked remotely like losing? Apparently his heads gone… maybe. But he’s dominated all fights he’s recently been in bar Usyk? wilder coming off 3 minutes of boxing since losing and is going in against parker
Guy is red T-shirt knows as much about boxing as I do time travel
Wilder has fought Journey men. Louis Ortiz was finished when they fought.
First time I've watched this channel for a few months.
I won't any more..
There is absolutely no chance Fury or Usyk fight Wilder or AJ after their fights. Both of them will retire after
It's turned into Talksport lad's 😏
Just like Fury, Wilder is all talk and no action. Dude has a history of avoiding unification fights.
Everyone can talk this and that and we (the public) don't know the truth anyway. I judge these guys based on actions. Joshua took tougher fights. Wilder only ended up being in tough fights cause Fury was a cherrypick gone wrong.
If Wilder knocks out Parker then Wilder and Fury have beat AJs best 3 wins in a much more convincing fashion.
I don’t get the hype behind AJs CV when Parker is arguably his 2nd best win 😅
Genuinely mental how the boxing podcast guys know fuck all and the Chelsea fan pundit is actually talking some level of sense on occasion
The disrespect for Usyk is embarrassing.
I think people forget aj has beaten wallin twice before since then aj has gone on to become 2x unified champ wallin has done nothing
Yo where's the full video?😂
Wallin is a rocky of the modern world 😊
Luis ortiz!! Who has he beaten??
"Wallin has the belief he can beat AJ"?! This is hilarious! Have these guys even taken the time to go listen to the close-mic between the two men during the face-off? Wallin was practically peeing in his pants when Joshua checked him. That didnt look like a man that had any belief to me. If anything defeats AJ on the 23rd, its going to be "Over-confidence"!
I feel Joshua won't go near wilder unless it's last fight before retirement
AJ offered Wilder a fight in 2019.. Wilder ducked AJ. Wilder is afraid of AJ... watch him in the press conferences sqiirming infront of AJ. .. AJ always beats Wilder ... but after seeing Wilder in with Parker .. and watching how AJ dismantled Walin .....AJ kills Wilder inside 3
This pain game crew are great, much better than the snakes you had on the kick off
1) Usyk wins a UD.
2) Wilder by KO in 5.
3) AJ loses a UD.
I think if wallin shows up like he did with fury don’t be surprised if he wins.
AJ has been busy improving his craft. Wilder has fought 2:40 min in 3 years. Wilder is far more likely to slip up. I don't think Parker will win but he is training with the Fury who beat Wilder so he has the perfect preparation. Wallin may make AJ look bad at times because he is awkard but AJ should win comfortably, maybe even by stoppage.
It's BCOS aj is bricking it.when that wilder bomb comes over the top aj knows he is seeing stars .
Biggest paper champ in boxing, beat one good opponent in Ortiz, first time he went up against two elite top 10 heavyweights ended looking like a clown
Aj is gun shy and that means he's finished because he's scared of getting hit, Wilder is diminished but he's still got enough to Ko AJ.
Perfectly said !
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Love this team
Love the undefeated boys. But with AJ Trav is part of his defence league 😂😂 say a bad thing about aj...and he overrrr them!!
The final comment - Wallin is better than Parker...really.....? Better...? If Wallin was fighting Wilder I think people would give him a much less of a chance of causing an upset than Parker does. And if Parker fought Joshua I think people would be saying that's a lot more of a riskier fight for AJ than Wallin is....c'mon now.