DEBATE: Does Ngannou beat Joshua or Wilder? 🥊
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Zhang beats Ngannou
Europen level lool,w tf is that m o r on talking,Hrgović will detroyed them all,Nganu is not a boxer,
Wilder NOTHING but right hand and i mean nothing,no footwork,poor defence,poor distance,bad headmovement etc etc.
AJ never will be the same but he is Edie Hern boy so they force him...Then you have Bivol with classic old school soviet boxing..
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People need to understand that Francis’s ability to learn is exceptional. He is a phenom!
Yes! He only really started fight training (mostly mma) at 28! That's less than 9 years ago, plus he had a year off with his ACL injury, surgery and recovery.
@@Terra_Lopez Exactly! He is really an exception.
A point they always miss!
You lie about the facts he started boxing at age kf 22 and mma at age of 26 but still incredibly
@@Terra_Lopezthe comment above was for yoy
You can't compare Ngannnou to other UfC Fighters. His physicality is on another level. Everything he could do against fury has nothing to do with him being an mma fighter it has to do with him being Francis Ngannou.
Say that again
@@meshlaw5757what don’t you understand?🤷🏽♂️
@@marc7983i think he meant he's agreeing with you.
One thing Francis has over fury is humility and when you have humility you know that you can always get better so don't be surprised if he does get better 😂
dont forget this bout was in favour of fury fighting usky, it was about money , franics got paid 10 million bucks and fury would have got say 3 times as much cos hes a belt holder. so it was a exibition ,not a real bout although franics wanted to turn it in to one.who wouldnt want to K/O that mouth fury, just saying ,
I picked Francis to win by TKO. I guess I am the only person on Earth that picked it right haha. I'm not an expert at making picks, but I thought people were really not recognizing how intelligent Francis is (because of his polite African accent). Fury did win, but many experts say that Francis is the rightful winner. Francis fought timid, intentionally. But you can expect that in the 2nd fight (if Fury is brave) Francis will stop Fury. Francis can take big risks now that he is established.
@@Stephen-dd7uphe tried he couldn’t ko him. I dont think anyone can. Plenty can put him on his ass but the closest was Wilder then he gets up and wins the rest of the round?!
@@starseeddeluxe… tko fury got up and outboxed 7 straight. Tyson got humbled. Best thing for him. Sugar Hill got humbled by extension. Time to adjust and utilize Fury’s tool box.
As for N’Gannou id say get more footwork. Big challenge for him considering the wear n tear but that’s what he needs.
Francis was not training for fury for the whole time he was off. he had knee surgery and a 12 week camp which is where the WHOLE prep and learning happened. SO what happens when he trains with Dewey and Mike for 6 months betwen fights? I do not think the fury footage is going to tell as much as peopke think...
Hilarious...
Ngannou has a rock solid chin, probably the scariest right hand in all fight disciplines and last but least he's incredibly cerebral. You've only seen 25 % of Francis Ngannou
Thank you
Thank you. Was looking for this comment. Francis has an underrated chin. He can take a hit and serve it right back. He folded Stipe after getting clipped, and nuked Rozenstruik after the latter landed more than several well placed hits
How did that chin hold up against Joshua?
AJ took the other 75%
All we know for sure is you can’t count him out
Facts
Didn't need to. Utterly demolished him.
@@finger3181 No count needed lmao
I highly doubt that Francis Ngannou would overestimate his ability based on his fight with Fury nor will he underestimate any opponent. I believe that he was humbled from this kind of catastrophic thinking when he lost to Stipe in their first fight when he was jetting back and forth to France right before fight week. He has spoken to this error publicly and he hasn't made that mistake since.
Based on last night horrendous showing from Wilder, I think Francis beats Wilder. Remember, Francis got a chin and he a strong mutherfuka.
@@MajorrBison exactly that's my thought as well from this point on Ngannou will easily beat wilder. The guy never been rocked ever
Nganou had a fear throughout most of the fight. A fear of gassing out. Now that he knows he can go the distance, he will put a little bit more power into his shots when he sees an opportunity.
He'll get knocked out though if he opens up. It will be such an easy fight for Wilder or Joshua if he opens up so fear is sometimes there for a reason. Let's be honest Fury barely took him seriously in preperation. It was embarassing from Fury. Reminded me of Ali and Antonio Inoki. One person came for a fight and the boxer thought it was an exhibition.
You hit the nail on the head. Fury didn’t push his cardio! That will tell the story.
Yes, he is on record saying that he held back on his shots for fear of managing his energy.
@@Djsonley😂🤣🤣 okay. And what if wilder or joshua opens up? If?
@@shortscut7614 Joshua can do what he wants with Francis without opening up. His jab is top quality. Thats all he'd need to do and beat Francis down pretty easily with it.
Francis’s main advantage is not his physical power, but his fighting mindset and his fast learning and adaptation skills. He does not rely on knocking out his opponents, even though he has the potential. He believes that he is the one who controls the fight, whether in the ring or the octagon, and he will always be the predator.
Francis has never been recognized as a skilled fighter in the UFC, but he has always been victorious. The same will happen in boxing, where he will not be seen as a skilled boxer, but he will prove everyone wrong.
He will make the heavyweight boxers look as small as he made the UFC heavyweights look.
Dawg?
I’m an MMA fan and I LOVE Ngannou but I thought he had absolutely no chance against Fury…If there’s one thing I’ve learnt about Ngannou it’s that he has a way of making things go his way lol, I’m never gonna underestimate him again!
Ngannou is different species of human born to fight, just see physical structure that different from all regular human
People are still doubting Ngannou after that masterful performance against Tyson Fury aka the WBC champ? Smh😒 At the end of the day, Fury wiped the floor with Wilder and is a superior boxer to Joshua. Francis Ngannou can definitely beat those guys. Usyk would give Francis serious issues. Usyk imo is the cream of the crop.
Agree but I think Zhang is next up!
Because it was 1 match. I think its a good reason lol
Alright Captain Casual have a good Christmas. You're ignoring so many factors with your 13 year old kid analysis of Ngannou Fury 😂.
You're treating the worst Fury performance as his standard and basing the performances of others from that 🤡
People are doubting and rightfully so...
You can call Fury what you want.
I'd agree to all of those names.
But Ngannou has just given ONE performance.
It's a fight. Things do happen.
All we're asking of him is, do it once again ..
That's it. Is that unreasonable?
Nope
We have fighters with 30-40 fights here. 20 of them can be flukes. We still have atleast 5 fights to judge them.
Ngannou can't be rated with just one.
That being said, I think Wilder can't beat Ngannou. There's very little chance.
But I do think Ngannou can't win against AJ.
I don't think Ngannou can win against Zhang.
I definitely don't think Ngannou can win against Usyk .
Usyk, being a smaller, less powerful man, will definitely have to hit and duck and look for points. But Ngannou won't land on him.
I do however think Ngannou can fare well against Ruiz.
Ngannou vs Parker will be the most interesting one IMO.
AJ would kill him
remember that Francis did not want to be a UFC fighter but a boxer. he is so hype for this part of his life. great podcast.
And correct, Francis is special. So is Jon Bones but Francis is special.
Even Bones said "Yeah fuck fighting that guy!" after seeing the second Stipe fight. People got real quiet when Francis just suddenly learned to wrestle.
@@stoneman472 🤣😂😂😂💯%
FURY didn't have an off night. Furys movement was there, his speed.. he threw lots of punches..Its just Ngannou is special..Fury himself said Ngannou was very swkward..
With plenty of preparation..Ngannou beats all of them
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U gotta be kidding.Fury looked pathetic that night.
Nah he just couldn't lean on him cos he's stronger than him. He usually just tires everyone out but Francis got that ufc African strength. Plus Fury looked like he had a 20 minute camp and spent the other 12 weeks with Kalle
@@BillyJ-vi8dfu all underestimate his chin lol .....never dropped or ko'd before ....fury v ngannou 2 will bw different results
Fury still actually won the fight lol
it makes me wanna hurl when 3 of these guy just makes excuses after excuses on behalf of Fury
Why?
They are living in denial. Tyson Fury lost to a novice and disgraced the sport. Simple.
I think he has a special work ethic! He can find a way to adapt and continue and improve! I don't see him with the type of ego to underestimate any other heavyweight.
Fury was stepping into those 1-2s in the first 3 rds then he got caught Ngannou can definitely take a punch.
Spot on Zhang is the boogyman. well said.
Big bang Zhang.
Why are these guys looking for excuses for Fury, when Fury himself said he prepare more for the Ngannou fight than any other
For me two things to consider,
First, he really did not let his hands go, either we was worried about gassing out or he didn't really want to hurt Fury.
Second, he is open to learning and improving. So just the way other fighters can study him now, he will also study them and train for them. Remember he told Fury that he can't fool him acting a fool because he knows how good he Fury is.
So, am sure he will be a hand full for any heavy weight top ten or not.
Yes he did say he didn’t want to go for power so he doesn’t get tired before Fury does. Clever strategy.
I was the one writing Francis off due to all the footage shown pre fight he did not go full speed. He looked sluggish and non coordinated, a shell of his MMA self but I guess that was a rouse and it worked. But what I completely forgot and what shocked Fury the most, I guess he didnt think about it also, wasnt his punching power, we all knew that. The biggest thing everyone overlooked, Francis can take a punch. MMA guys get tested, just like boxers of old. This new era of boxers havent faced wars in the ring like old boxers did and what Francis experienced in MMA. Fury landed some and then realized Francis is completely unphased, he did not respect Fury at all and that was a game changer.
Name one time Ngannou was involved in a “war” you casual filth lmao
After watching wilder fight last night i give Francis 60 to 70 percent chance of beating him.
They saying about how the Ngannou knockdown rocked Fury more and scared him more then any other fighter, but the Wilder kncokdowns really seemed to hurt Fury a lot more.
bar the first fight, fury came back and troubled wilder even more after those knockdowns and i think the only reason he didn’t in the first fight is cuz the knockdown was so late on. fury did not want to engage at all with ngannou.
It was ngganue beaing able to take furys weight and out strenghed and 'big manned" fury which humbled him. Fury was for once in there with a bigger, stronger dog and it was a BIG shock to him
Ngannou said he was not trying to go his normal strength and everything, he didn't know how his gas tank would be towards the end, but Wilder was throwing with everything he had from the get go,
imagine if Ngannou unleashed with more force and wasn't trying box till the end, who ever he hit will slump down and doctors will come in, you people still underestimate that man.
Yeah but Fury walked down Wilder because of the height and weight difference. Against Ngannou he was on his bike because of the freak of nature Francis is. Don’t forget Ngannou literally lifted Gane like he was made of paper while having both of his knees blown and in his first fight against Stipe. Stipe struggled to finish a gassed Ngannou. Man was raining hammer fists and didn’t chin Ngannou once 💀💀 that man is a genetic freak
Fury didn’t get timid after Wilder knock down
Against Ngannou he did
Tells you all you need to know
The thing about Francis is simply this. Their is a big difference between knowing what Francis is about to do, and stopping him from doing that thing. He did this in so many fights in the UFC. They knew his gameplan and yet he still sent him to Pluto.
And those weren't the times when Francis evolved between fights and terrified the division.
His gameplan was stuffed in multiple occasions in the ufc lmao you casual filth.
3:36 response
Francis has already had his epiphany moment as a fighter in MMA. He was the boogeyman with the company on his side, set to dethrone Stipe Miocic. Francis came into the press conference cocky saying he would simply knock Stipe out. Stipe held at the time, and still holds till this day the record for UFC heavyweight title defenses. Stipe, who is regarded as the UFC heavyweight goat, defeated Francis in dominant fashion. The loss affected Francis in his return to cage, leaving him gun-shy against an equally tentative Dereck Lewis. It was after that part of his career that Francis began to show real growth. I don’t think he will make the same mistake with his performance against Fury.
Most underrated chin in boxing is francis, a Francis that can take one then counter is terrifying for anyone at heavyweight, rewatch Tyson fury vs Ngannou.
Ngannou is just built different, he's pure muscle, anyone he touches with that left hand goes to sleep, he can get up to 260lbs and still be in top fighting condition, he's not going into boxing to try and out point his opponent, he wants to take their heads off. Ngannou should fight AJ and Wilder, 20-30M each fight and cash out!
Bro he was 275+ vs Fury.
@@berlin4103 Haha so even bigger and still be in good fighting condition. But to be fully efficient he needs to be around 260-270. He's a big guy with all that muscle.
He cut weight often to make the 265lb ufc limit
but he mentioned in his interviews that he never cut weight, he believed those intense training could help to burning extra weight...... @@ryanwatterson4038
Has good relationships with druggs.
'Nothing in ufc highlights showed he was capable of this' its very clear if u watch francis strike he is a counrer puncher and switches stances. Most of his knockouts are counter punches stipe, arlovski, dos santos for example. All of what francis did in the fight was very clear to see in his ufc highlights we just didnt know he could use that effectively with fury for all 10 rounds
I will use an analogy that I think suits this extremely well.
Imagine if the top runningback in the NFL decided to cross the Atlantic and sign up with a Rugby team, and in his first game goes on to be a huge presence in the match despite his team losing. Dunno how Rugby works specifically, but let's just say he scores all 3 times for his team but the other team scores 4.
Everybody's acting all shocked that a top-tier Professional Athlete was able to transition from Fight With Less Rules to Fight With More Rules, and it absolutely baffles me. Francis knows how to fight, he's faced adversity in fights, he's had to adapt mid-fight, he's lost fights, he's done the training camp for fights - HE KNOWS THIS. He surrounded himself with smart people and learned how to box, and brought all the MMA experience with him to counter-grapple and walk through illegal stuff like a slasher movie monster.
Tyson could have pieced Francis up with great technique, but instead decided to play directly into the things we KNEW Francis did well because that's what his previous sport emphasized. And all the while knowing Francis is a nuclear-equipped nation. Tyson screwed Tyson.
Ngannou has also started training boxing more than a decade ago
rugby and american football comparison doesnt really work - you could say rugby union vs rugby league it would be much more apt.
That was a terrible comparison though and AJ illustrated why yesterday. MMA fighters make really poor boxers, they're all hype and no substance
@@mmfood3004Ngannou went way above expectations in his fight against Fury, which had zero hype going in. That performance directly built hype for the fight vs AJ.
The hate on Ngannou is repulsive. This guy has done what the doubters can't now hate even more coz they know their pride can't allow them to accept they wrong.
Only two men out of there see the light, the rest just spread hopelessness.
What we need to know early in 2024 is WHO is Francis’s next boxing opponent. And it should be someone in the top ten rankings. He just flattened Fury and nearly beat him on points.
Great conversation
Fun going back and watching videos like this, after the Day of Reckoning, 😂
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Boxing gatekeepers are working overtime to defend the sport's pride😂😂😂
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I'm certainly no expert but I love boxing and I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed this. One thing I have always believed is that if you can fight you can fight anywhere....hexagon or ring. Ngannou can only get better with the right tuition and guidance and can prove to be a threat against anyone in the division. With his strength hes a handful....make no mistake about that....
Imagine NGANNU coming Out For The Next Fight With Mike Tyson And Lennox Lewis In His Corner.,
He Definately DOES Have The MONEY To Invest In HIMSELF And Get The BEST PARTNERS For A Good Mature Run At IT.
I guess he shut down the whole timid bollocks after tonight. If anything wilder was so timid against Parker and lost every single minute
Guy in white is the only one talking sense. We have short memories. Everyone was screaming robbery on the night, and then changed their minds after seeing that fury ‘landed more shots’. He won more rounds against Fury than Wilder managed in 3 fights. Anyone who can give Fury trouble is a problem, regardless if Fury underestimated him or was on his 10th pint.
We will see how good Ngannou really is with time, but against Wilder it’s a shoot-out and I fancy Ngannou’s chin over Wilders; and against AJ, you have a killer verses a scared rabbit.
Ngannou fights Fury again or Usyk or Zhang he is probably in trouble. Wilder has a good chance too as he will likely find it easier to get in range to land the big ones. But AJ is mince meat.
Ah yes, John McDermott and Steve Cunningham are massive problems for everyone at heavyweight 🤣
@@mmfood3004 isn’t that the point - we need to go back over a decade the last time someone gave Tyson trouble the way Ngannou did.
@@demiyianni3496 Walin gave him a tough time too tbf - Fury has always been inconsistent and I think lately he's been over rated too. He's a good fighter but his best wins are Klitschko and Wilder and I'm not too sure how good Wilder is either. Hopefully the big card today will answer some questions though.
@@mmfood3004 hopefully I’m wrong and we see AJ find his teeth again tonight. But if see the same Wallin that turned up against Fury, it could be an interesting contest. Enjoy tonight’s fights 👍
EDIT: This did not age well 😂 It is Wilder that is mince meat
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The only people calling the fight who quickly spoke correctly to Francis going southpaw were Michael Venom Page's watch and Cornelius Bundrage on K9boxing watch along. Most others thought it was a miscalculation. These two fighters could immediate see that Ngannou was having more success than Fury in south paw.
Francis is where he is because through his career he has adapted. This was proven by his fight against fury but mostly by his fight in the ufc against Stipe. Francis always proves his naysayers wrong. If he wins his next fight maybe even next two people will have a very different opinion.
Joshua will flatten him though in reality. He'll get found out super quick now people will take him seriously and actually train for the fight. Fury was and has been an ebarassment since 3 years ago against Wilder. The dude's semi retired the past few years.
@@Djsonley I’ve heard this before yet here he is
@@russelljames5631 He's had one fight against someone who wasn't taking him seriously and he lost.
@@Djsonley he did way better than everyone expected and knocked down the lineal hw champion even eating an elbows that would have dropped most boxers. I’m not saying he’s the best ever I’m saying he has potential to be a great boxer. As far as first matches goes it was a great performance.
@@russelljames5631 I wish him well. I like Francis but compared to the power and dominance I just saw from Joshua. Francis is a contender type fighter he's defo not the champ from what I can tell but I hope he proves me wrong.
Boxing fans haven’t seen prime mma fighters enter boxing other than Ngannou & don’t know how tough they are.
Fury tried to bully Ngannou in the clinch - super effective vs wilder for example - but Ngannou has wrestled, clinched & fought guys like Stipe. Every time fury tried to clinch he’d just get shrugged off immediately.
Fury also threw that intentional elbow & it didn’t even phase Ngannou
I’m not saying mma fighters could all easily move over, but most of them are insanely tough. The training is way harder than boxing training & once you’ve been hit by 4oz gloves, 16s don’t feel that bad.
Francis isn’t the best boxer, he will never be. But he is way tougher than AJ, usik etc. & most importantly he’s not afraid of them.
Your also forgetting francis literally has never been rocked once hes got a granite chin , literally got elbowed against fury and was unfazed
This is whatvi always tell people 😅ngannou never lost by ko or even dropped man 😢that's scary for heavyweight
I think the only fight that matters and can even be speculated on is fury ngannou after that youd have all the info you need
It is hard for true boxing fans to accept this but Tyson Fury disgraced the sport of boxing. We need an immediate rematch with Ngannou. Any talk about Ngannou fighting other boxers is giving Fury a pass.
The guy saying it was more of bad performance for fury than a good ngannou performance is clueless, Fury was fighting old past it fighters like chisora before he finally got half a test. what basis is he going off that fury is as good as he thinks? beating Klitschko over a decade ago?
Well when a man like Wilder puts 42 out of 43 fighters asleep the odds are 98% if you get hit by his right just 1 time it's night night for you.......now think about this.....over there fights, not once not twice but 3 damn times Fury was dropped and some gosh damn way he got up and won... I hate Fury but I have to tip my hat as he is that special
@@jasonzane31you judge a fighter based on chin? Lol
Ngannou was excellent dealing with Fury but he’s got to do it again and this time his opponents will have that bit of tape to study and won’t have anywhere to hide. I’m rooting for him and a win will launch him into the stratosphere.
Francis is a quick learner. He will study them as well and do much better.
Personally don't like Fury. But the Fury who fought Ngannou was an over weight under prepared version that wasn't taking Ngannou seriously.
I sed from the start he would knock fury down in the round that he did ! Every one acting surprised… but it was obvious that he would do well !
If Ngannou wants to fight the best boxers then let him earn it. Do it the right way. The fact is that he will get schooled numerous times trying to climb the mountain. Not every heavyweights wants to waste his time with exhibitions.
This guest is a mad football and Boxing fan..
Highly devoted to the both sports.
Seen him in football interviews too..
His problem is stamina. He was careful not to blow his load whe he should have opened up after the knockdown. His mouth was open and was tired and concerned about having to last 10 rounds. At age 38 can he get his stamina trained to go 12 rounds. Needs to come in lighter and not so muscled.
Francis gonna create history.
He lost
Francis brings excitement and he’s willing to fight the top fighters and he’s competitive (at least) with them. critics have called wilder one dimensional Francis definitely has that knockout power so why would he not be I the top 5 of boxers.
Great convo. Francis will do great guy is a different breed
Hum...when "Experts" debate the issue of a heavyweight fight, sounds like a fortune-tellers reunion.
Entertaining as possible 😂.
Nganou is another ball game all together coming into this fight , period!! Another breed another animal and all type off different stategy . People forget his early days wrre kick boxing , saying he has no experience is being very naive! The hunger he has is another level.
Ngannou has a big advantage compared to other fighters because no one has seen him box that much. Like in the MMA he's not demonstrated much boxing skill besides his power yet in boxing his style is quite good for the heavyweight division from what we've seen
What about Zhilei Zhang, Andy Ruiz, Usyk, Filip Hrgovic, Bakhodir Jalolov?
If Ngannou takes risks against Joshua, he is going to quickly discover what heavyweight boxing really means
Ngannou is a tough one. Tyson said he did 12 week camp. Why doesnt anyone believe him?
Ngannou is more dangerous now he know how far he can go, he's gonna hit as powerful as the punch at the UFC, and no one in boxing heavyweight div can take this kinda power
real talk
I want to see AJ vs Fury and Wilder Vs Ngannou, imagine what a night that’d be!
Francis didn't hit Fury with his full power but barely grazed him, which was enough to floor the world champion
Ngannou is officially a nightmare for the entire top 10 heavyweight division
I wanna see him fight the big names for sure.
I don't think we'd see the pre fight tough guy attitude we see from AJ if he was fighting Ngannau 😂
From watching this podcast I can still see the world doesn’t understand ngannou s hunger and ability to learn fast and correct himself has still not registered just wait until he flat lines the best in boxing. you will give him his respect !!
Personally, because styles make fights, for boxing i think he can beat AJ because AJ doesnt have that dawg in him and Francis has PLENTY in him. But i think a guy like Dillian whyte would actually give him a lot more trouble. 60/40 in favor of wilder, Jon Jones is way too good a wrestler to lose to Francis tho, in my humble opinion
I couldn't agree more bro theres just no way joshua could hurt francis. He just doesn't have that dawg in him like you said...
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This red shirt guy said he favors Wardley (who started late in boxing/ gets hit flush, often/ and is only just outta prospect level) over Hrgovic, an accomplished amateur that went to the Olympics, whos shared the ring with the likes ot Joe Joyce and Zhang... 😅 This guy knows fk all about boxing
Hrgović clearly beat Zhang.
Joyce made Zhang look better than he truly is. He was a punching bag.
Ngannous greatest attributes:
1. Very hard chin
2. Heart, Stamina & Durability
3. Destructive power in both hands
4. Fast hands for a heavyweight and for his size
5. Athleticism
Humble and good hearted add to the list❤️
Probably open to get hit though, against a guy like zhang he might get lit up badly. Against a guy like Joshua, all of those things you stated might make it difficult for AJ to really get at him. But I just don’t see him going in there and really putting it on anyone. Survive and not get battered? Ok. Do damage? Of course. But I just don’t see him consistently staying in there with elite guys.
I didn’t see any savage hard punching flurries, I didn’t see exceptional footwork, I didn’t see great movement of slipping, bobbing and weaving - I just saw a big strong boulder who is hard to handle because of his strength and size, and his self confident demeanour means he’s hard to throw off and expose a weakness. He was textbook and safe, and hid behind his guard in a really savvy and deceptive way. But he had rounds after the knockdown to do something and he didn’t do anything, a more focused and switched on top guy might box his eyeballs off and make him pay more but we’ll see.
Ngannou vs Zhang would be a brilliant match up
Zhang would smoke him please🤣
I'm glad they are giving Zhang props. I believe he is the most overlooked boxer in the heavyweight division.
Looking at this now hearing you say him avoiding Joshua lol
Styles make fights. Fury made Ngannou look good. AJ would be far to quick and would stop Ngannou.
The reason why Ngannou did so well against Fury is that Ngannou is a decent boxer, but Fury didn't take him seriously, and there was absolutely zero film on Ngannou to break down his vulnerabilities. Now there is film, and the elite trainers will game plan to take advantage of his weaknesses.
You can’t lie though , endurance for a mma fighter was big factor people were worried about, and it wasn’t bad at all. His strength in the clinch was amazing , the akward style . And you can’t lie he is probably the most durable heavyweight in the world in terms of core , and chin. He can eat shots , if you seen the first Miocic fight he just took everything in, and never got wobbled when Miocic was throwing flurries at him. Yet nothing , never been rocked ever . And for a newcomer to boxing he adapt quick he’s intelligent let’s not forget the number one reason he performed so well wasn’t because he’s just a decent boxer , it’s because his game plan was great , what’s to say he won’t do it again.
Just stop thinking that you know something that you truly don't.
@@-RJ2007 I agree, he's got a career in boxing just because he'll KO a lot of guys who are better boxers.
Let's be honest, prior to his boxing debut against Fury, Francis has consistently faced unfair treatment throughout his professional UFC career. Despite defeating Cyril Gane, with excruciating pain on his knee, he had the entire UFC against him. Moreover, he's been consistently undervalued, with many failing to recognize his mental superiority over 90% of fighters, including boxers. It's crucial not to underestimate the mental strength of someone who has endured life's challenges and remained humble and wise.
I don’t think he beats Joshua but he could definitely beat Wilder. However, I think the likelihood of him being KOd himself is higher in the hypothetical Wilder fight. If I was Ngannou I’d throw myself in the mix for a Wilder fight. I think it makes sense for the both of them both financially and narratively speaking with the right promotional team.
For real boxing fans I don't see him beating neither for casuals he beats both 😂
Yall said the same with fury and look what happened.
lol. Tommy fury lost and got a fake decision and Tyson lost and got a fake decision. The sport is dead. Go watch misfits 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“For real boxing fans”🤓
@@One_Andonly-Zulu.1fury was poor in a rematch fury smokes him.
@@Yorkshireman5 Aren't you tired of that sorry excuse, if he had won decisively I don't think any of you fury fans would make such excuses.
I'm not sure Johnny Fisher thinks the can win though he did joke that Hearn thought he could knock him out in 1 round. By the end of the fight, he joked in half jest that he'd still knock Nganno out but maybe 2 rounds!
Going close with Flabby Furry means less than nothing.
People dont understand how smart and a fast learner Ngannau is. I tell y'all surely that he has learnt from that Fury fight and he will have more than a chance to get the job done.
He looked good against a lazy out of shape fury
He is obviously not coming in with the same tactics, he will come in unreadable and certainly more aggressive and on top of that mentality much stronger.
Any decent heavyweight beats him, he's ancient and unskilled.
Ngannou’s just a huge hype-train bro 😂”um actually…he came from Cameroon to France by himself…and uh..also…he was uhhh…poor 🤓” like stfuu. That guy just hits hard, and Fury just wasn’t expecting a decent boxer. Fury will win the next rematch if there is one.
How about Francis v Big Baby Miller ?
Francis is built different he ate a full power elbow from fury and don’t even wobble lmao so they didn’t take a point away
Is it possible that Francis had an outstanding performance, over-achieved and could age rapidly at this point?
Joe Joyce looked indestructible a couple of fights ago…. They are a similar age. With repaired knees and his age how long can he keep progressing for?
Jones had like a million fights
Nah, Ngannou has a freak chin and he always counters
Fair point. But he already proved he can learn at an accelerated pace. It's how he won UFC gold. He can beat fighters with limits, like Wilder. Joahua is another story.
But Ngannou vs. Zhang? That's a helluva fight.
@@ryanwatterson4038Joyce had a freak chin.. until it got cracked
@@jamiebyrne3416 what’s your point my friend ?
True Geordie gives me “dresses up as a woman and walks around the house in heels” vibe
I agree w Geordie. I could see AJ shrinking in a Francis fight. Idt anyone wants to exchange w Francis. Not nobody. And especially at HW, power and chin are king imo
Im sure big francis could beat both,he is on another level from todays boxers,goodluck to him i back him 100%❤
Ngannou put up a good fight against Fury. Be he didn't win. We can't act like he did. I think the result would be similiar. A tough opponent, gets some solid hits but he wouldn't beat either of them.
He did beat him tho even boxers agreed
He could beat wilder, fury flung him about, but Ngannou is way stronger than fury and he has a superior chin to fury
First off, Fury pummeled changing Wilder for life, so Wilder is NOT the same as when Fury faced him. Ngannou will pummel Wilder. Joshua will school the strongman rookie in Ngannou and win by decision.
Everyone doubted usyk coming from cruiser to heavy weight and look what hes done
Completwly reversed the division . In a sense dominated, excited the heavyweight division drastically .
I think Ngannou has to prove it wasn't just a fluke, that performance against Fury. I'd like to see him against someone like Joshua, Wilder, Zhang. See how he does.
so do I, or even fight guys like andy ruiz and luis ortiz isn't bad idea.....
@AmIDeadYet
And what will Luke Fury be doing?
He should have been fighting these guys all this while, but he hasn't and has no desire to, from the way he's been cherry picking fights.
Luke Fury should have fought Joshua, Andy Ruiz, Zhang, Filip Hrgovic, Luis Ortiz, Joe Joyce etc
Fury fan girls should stop cuddling him it's disgusting, embarrassing and annoying 😒
@@keepitsimple313 Yes i agree with most of what you've said, Fury should have fought more top 10 fighters by now. I've actually said this on other videos defending Joshua as he's fought more top 10 fighters than Fury. But this video is about how Ngannou does against other heavyweights.
@@AmIDeadYetYet Joshua is finished now and Tyson will most likely beat Usyk... we all know who the history will remember.
@@ericborder5272
How can you say Luke Fury would most likely beat Usyk when he hasn't even fought him?
That's a crazy assumption to make and until they fight, we will never know.
We were all surprised at what Ngannou did to Fury in Saudi Arabia.
Usyk is way faster, slicker, has better footwork, punch selection and a higher boxing IQ than Ngannou and he's definitely going to be a nightmare for Luke Fury in the ring.
We'll Wait and see, won't we 😏
And Joshua is definitely not finished. That's crazy talk.
You should get mikey terrill on bkb World champ from your area
What make is that shirt true Geordie has on?
Lacoste
@@booprice5473 pmsl I was being sarcastic
I think @TheKickOff is on this weekend it is finally the weekend
People don’t get that fury nnganou bout is just the beginning, nnganou is metamorphosing and it’s unclear what the limits to his potential is and I’m here for it