Mark Jackson says the Pacers should’ve beat the Shaq & Kobe Lakers in the 2000 NBA Finals | EP. 38
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- Follow Club Shay Shay on Tik Tok: sprtspod.fox/ClubShayShayTikTok... Mark Jackson tells Shannon that the Pacers should’ve beaten the Lakers in the 2000 NBA Finals. “We should’ve won. We lost Game 4 in OT. Shaq fouled out and the late great Kobe Bryant takes over the game. We did everything we could, we had the depth and versatility.”
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Mark Jackson says the Pacers should’ve beat the Shaq & Kobe Lakers in the 2000 NBA Finals | EP. 38
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Do you think the Pacers should’ve won the 2000 NBA Finals?
Only if Larry Bird could suit up, never ever have a head coach better than what you have on the court
🤣😂🤣😂 The team that should've won, WON!
No
Bruh they wasn't about to beat them lakers
Emphatically No.
Hearing Mark speak so fondly about Kobe made me tear up…🥲
Same here
Mark Jackson loved Kobe. at one point he thought Kobe would become the greatest ever back in 2006.
As great as that 2000 Pacers team was they weren't going to beat Kobe and Shaq
FACTZ BRO 🤣🤣🤣
The Kings had a better chance of winning but they got cheated by the refs
Yea idk what bruh talking about lol
@@billydakid71 🤣🤣🤣
2000 Shaq MIGHT be the best center in league history, was no stopping him that year. Phil and Kobe had him locked in!!!!
Exactly the fact mark say they should have nah lakers more wiser an kobe had the juice to studied reggie yrs before finals reggie taught kobe to much should had shut up🤫💯
Shaq was league MVP In 2000
…..
Kobe was 1st team all defense in 2000 at 21 years old (your favorite player can’t say that)
The late great Kobe Bryant 💔
Carlos i still can't believe it when i hear people say that.
Fun fact: The Pacers actually outscored the Lakers in that series. Lakers were clearly a more talented team but that series was winnable from Indiana’s perspective. Remember Kobe got hurt and barely played in Game 2 and he missed game 3. Game 4 Shaq fouled out and they had to win it in OT. And in Game 5 Indiana won by 33 points. Shaq was otherworldly of course but that series was a lot closer than people remember. The only Lakers team of that 3-peat that really looked unbeatable was the 01 team that only lost one game to the Sixers.
True, but they STILL pulled it off.
The argument you are presenting is flawed because if Kobe does not get hurt they probably sweep the Pacers you said it yourself Kobe missed most of Game 2 and all of Game 3. The Lakers ended up winning Game 2 anyway and if they had him for Game 3 the Lakers likely are up 3-0.
2001 no one was beating the Lakers or even making them sweat. 2002 the only team that posted any threat was the Kings.
@@JDGarza824 how is my argument flawed when I gave you nothing but facts? Wtf. I literally said in the second sentence that the Lakers were a more talented team so of course they would have won easily if Kobe never got hurt but he did and that made the series closer than expected. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter because they still won anyway.
They only outscored them because Kobe was injured
@@JDGarza824 You said his argument is flawless while you are using ' what ifs' lol
I always get chills when I hear Kobe stories like him and Reggie Miller 1 on 1 and then asking Reggie Miller for some of his moves. Kobe is the best student of the game
no cap
Once Kobe and Shaq connected with that alley oop against the blazers in the west conference finals in their comeback win. You knew. Just knew if you were a fan of them. That it just clicked. That they finally got it That there was nothing you could do. That started their run and dominance.
EPIC ALLEY OOP ICON
💯💯
I miss the way basketball used to be played.
DYNASTY
Shaq was just on another level in the 2000 Finals
And by Kobe and Shaq you mean Shaq
Naw only Shaq
@@tomsaywer9883 kobe got 5, shaq got 4.
@@lukacalov1988 you never watched those playoffs did you.
@@tomsaywer9883 you either.
Kob took over the game Vs. The whole team & had a injured ankle, he thrived in those moments that break you or make you great & he was the greatest RIP mamba 💙💯
Kobe 2000 road to a ring underrated
Western conference playoffs rd.1 vs Kings
27.8pts 4.4rebs 3.6ast 1.2stls .8blks
Western conference playoffs rd.2 vs Suns
21.0pts 3.8rebs 3.4ast 2.0stls 1.4blks
Western conference Finals rd.3 vs Blazers
20.4pts 4.9rebs 5.9ast 1.6stls 2.1blks
Led 2000 playoffs in total steals
3rd 2000 playoffs in total assists
Got intentionally injured by the opposition because of the threat that his skill level posed
Saved gm 4 of NBA Finals on a bum ankle
Won a ring on a bum ankle but was carried??? Because he at 21yrs put up
15.6pts 4.6rebs 4.2ast 1stl 1.4blks injured!
Lakers W game 1
Lakers W game 2 but K.B is injured
Lakers L game 3 No K.B
Now let's change history and say Kobe doesn't come back
No Kobe to save game 4
Lakers Lose game 4
We know the Pacers won game 5 in a blowout
So now the Lakers are down 3-2 with no Kobe and the Pacers on a 3 game winning streak
Shaq still carried Kobe?
Shaq was dominant period
But with no true opposition against him with the East bigs all leaving the game, Phil's plan became simple....let Shaq eat.
So 2000-02, just like 2008 Olympics Kobe sacrificed personal success for winning. Are we gonna say that Kobe was carried by Bron and co in 08? They put up better stats right?
I find it weird that Kobe went to 3 straight Finals post Shaq
Put up historic numbers post Shaq
Collected multiple season, allstar, and post season awards post Shaq
But people steal try to label him as carried
Kobe sacrificed his glory for others on multiple platforms. Kobe played with broken bones and swallon joints to get the ring.
I say he's the ultimate champ 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
Kobe avg 15 in 2000 finals
@@skeerel read the rest or don't comment lol
@@BigMy28 it was all irrelevant to the finals…he only avg 15…this video wasn’t about the path…
@@skeerel you read it?
Thank youu🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sorry mark got MAD love for you brotha, but you was facing a young JORDAN clone = Kobe/ and a young WILT = SHAQ / and they were putting up JORDAN-like & WILT-like PERFORMANCES! RIP Kobe 🙏 still ain't got over his loss😔
We feel da same, my boys and i been calling Kobe "da Clone" since 2003
@@dsanchez9703 thank you sir, it's up to you and me & MILLIONS upon millions of others who loved Kobe, to take a little piece of the mamba mentality and keep Kobe's spirit alive. 🙏👍
@@johnnyguitarwatson5288 yup
Mark wasn’t lying, game 4 was a prime opportunity for them to tie the series, Shaq and Kobe were in foul trouble. Indiana didn’t take advantage of that.
@@nate8604 yes sir Nate totally agree, I think Kobe stepping in to that ELITE player category with his performance in that game was a LETHAL blow dealt to the Pacers, I know they expected to tie the series when SHAQ fouled out!
Kobe went nuts in game 4 on a bad ankle.
The 2000 Pacers are a testament of how truly great the 1996-1998 Bulls were. That 2000 Pacers team was more or less, the same Pacers that the Bulls had to contend with.
True & it shows how great Shaq Kobe & the Lakers were as well. Indiana was a great team as well
They don’t get enough respect in my opinion. That was the toughest match up that the Lakers had during that three peat run.
People forget Kobe was only 21 cold blooded killer thats so underatted
They Also Forget That He Was Playing On A Popped Ankle 😭
That’s why I think #8 Kobe is more iconic in my opinion
There wasn't a more clutch 21 year old in the playoffs than Kobe Bryant in NBA History.
Magic Johnson
@@Thiiink this
I mean, Magic was 20
@@Thiiink haha literally killed his comment right away. Bird too.
Magic and Kobe. Magic stepped in at center
Kobe Bryant was intentionally injured by Jalen.. they should have won but Kobe came out clutch as Mark says.
Of course the haters will say Kobe got carried.
Kobe shot 37% from the field and was outplayed by Reggie and Jalen in that series... Shaq led the Lakers in scoring in every game and grabbed 20+ rebounds in a couple of those games. Shaq averaged 38/17 shooting 61% from the field. Kobe wasn't fully healthy but if any other player had Shaq play like that, 100% it would be considered being carried... Again, 38/17...
@@FKS1994 notice shaq didn't average those vs Hakeem. Only scrubs
@@jujurawks shaq wasn't in his prime vs Hakeem cause it was literally baby shaq vs hakeem
@@FKS1994 you don't get carried when you're averaging 20+ for the post season and closing games.
@@davidriley6843 38 ppg and 17 rpg, it’s not a knock on Kobe but he was carried.
Reggie didn’t learn his lesson after playing Jordan for the summer? 😂😂😂
Reggie wasn’t scared of anybody. He had that same fire in him that Kobe and Mike had, he just wasn’t as talented.
@@nate8604 Facts
Nate that fire didn’t stop him from getting cooked
@@versatillion15 Reggie averaged 24.3 points per game in that series. So he was cooking the opps too.
Nate we’re talking about playing pickup. Jordan before he came back from retirement called up a bunch of players (including Reggie) & was cooking them & this was right after him playing baseball. Shoutout to Reggie though nothing against him we were just joking lol
Mark: Ok Reggie I got Kobe!!
Kobe:( shots foul and one)
Mark: Ok Reggie you got Kobe!!
I approve this comment. Left the like at 24. Mamba Mentality
Austin Croshere played better than Kobe in this series.
That actually never happened. Watch the highlights
Fake news media had ya''ll thinking "Shaq carried Kobe."
He ain't get the FMVP, keep the same energy we do for others
@@lordvader3500 the same energy was you even alive for those finals they needed each other shaq fouled out kobe looked at shaq and told him I got it he then beat the Pacers by himself
@@watching789 Yes I was lol fact is Shaq was FMVP
@@lordvader3500 so why is Curry being celebrated like this? He has no FMVP, doesn’t play defense, and hasn’t been the best player on a championship team
Shaq carried stop
The Portland trailblazers should’ve won the 2000 finals. One of the deepest rosters ever put together and was up like 16 in the fourth quarter. Still hurts lol.
Yea ya shoulda got that one
Facts they choked horry and brian shaw went off in the 4th
Big facts.
Pip was my favorite player of all time. I was sick when the blazers blew the lead. Came back from 3-1 to. The ironic thing is when kobe went ham in overtime vs pacers that led to him becoming my favorite player all time!!!!
@@IsMoKeDgRaPeS pippen played himself. He wasn’t even a top 3 player for the blazers that series. Sheed and might mouse was balling.
As a lifelong Bulls fan, and Jordan being the 🐐, the one time I thought we were gone lose was 98 vs Pacers. That was the best Pacers team. In reality they missed there chance in the Lockout 99 season. They weren't gonna beat Jordan, or Kobe & Shaq
Yup I feel 98 was their best season, 99 they didn’t adjust to a different Knicks team without Ewing otherwise they could’ve been 99 champs.
Thanks for these gems shay ✨️
Great video
Shay. Get Reggie on. Not alot documented on his perspective on podcast
R.i.p Mamba
Was just looking at that game 4 tape a few days ago. Kobe and Shaq were in foul trouble, and the Pacers still lost….Reggie Miller had a great game, but they didn’t have an answer for Shaq throughout the course of that game, other than forcing him to foul. And Kobe took over down the stretch when Shaq fouled out.
That entire Kobe Shaq dynasty has teams that say “We should’ve beat them”. 2000 Blazers and Pacers say it and 02 Kings say the same thing
Love these old stories of Kobe.
That Lakers was not just Shaq and Kobe. Glen Rice, Ron Harper, Horry, Fisher were all great shooters and defenders. Rice was all star made some all nbas, Harper used to score 20ppg before going to Chicago. That Lakers was stacked. Still dont think even if Pacers won that game they wouldnt win series.
Ron Harper Trotwood Ohio Chris Carter Trotwood Ohio...
Ron Harper was the real deal!
Glen rice was the real deal!
Big Rob just went on to win more ring in SA..
Shaq was the bus driver. All those other dudes were bus riders.
@@WONtothaG 5-7 > 4-6
@@WONtothaG Shaq was a steroid head. Didn't win until he pop the steroids.
Kind of like LeBron who used to go to the same guy that Alex Rodriguez used to go to down in Miami
Ron harper was a monster until he blew out his knee but he was still a good player after
Y’all really don’t understand how wild that 2000 pacers team was, imagine jermaine O’Neil was in his prime or Chris mullins … even Reggie Miller
You can always look at the comments and tell who didn't watch the vid
@3:05 That wasn’t his humility, that was still his competitiveness😄
Y'all was good enough but Kobe and Shaq was in their prime
Kobe actually wasn't in his prime yet in 2000. 2001 was his breakout season
That actually wasn’t even prime Kobe 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️ man’s was just that good
Kobe was not in his prime yet but he still out play Miller Rose and Jackson
That Series was closer than people think!!
when watching it live it did not seem so close.
@@studiobauhaus7740 you take away game 1 and game 5 which where blow outs by both teams. All those game were hotly contested.. It was a one possession with a min left in game 6.. Lakers worked for that chip
Man I wanted the Pacers to win soooo badly. Reggie was my guy!
Shaq was on a mission mvp season nobody was beating my lakers.
Reggie Miller was a problem, dudes hated chasing him around on defense. Shaq’s numbers were something else in that series.
Shaq was unstoppable
This is a compliment, he’s saying they were a deeper team but they had two top ten players of all time
Kobe was only averaging 19 per game on 36.8% shooting that series when not counting games 2 & 3. Shaq on the other hand, was averaging 38 PPG and 16.7 RPG with 2.7 BPG on 61.1% shooting. With all due respect to Kobe and the Kobe fans in the comments section, Shaq was the big dog in this series.
The only reason his numbers looked like that was because Jalen Rose intentionally hurt Kobe's ankle
That “big dog” wouldn’t have done anything without Kobe & Kobe got injured shut up
@@jalynjones9136thanks for say it kobe shouldent have been playing until game 6 or 7 but he came back in game 4 and took over
The same big dog that was choking in game 7 of the 2000 WCF finish with 18pts 5 reb 4 turn over. While kobe save him with that come back finish with a game high 25pts 11reb 3stl 2blk
They didn‘t had a chance, i saw every game of that series. Shaq destroyed them
I agree smith and Sam were getting cook by O'Neal he was avagr 33pts 12reb 2blk a game
Totally agree and Jackson was awful in that series especially on game 4
@@pedrobpuente650 I agree look at game 6 the last two min of the game he was getting own by Kobe that Larry Brid took him out of the game because he was doing anything
KG, Mark Jackson, Gary Payton you name it... they all say Kobe tried to learn from other players every chance he could.
I like Mark Jackson as a commentator and analyst. I wouldnt expect him to say anything different even though shaq and kobe beats that pacers team 100 out of 100 times in any universe
I was with you every second of all it. We felt like we were the better team easily. Im just being real.
You can tell he really believes it but those pacers team had a great run
Heavy .
I just watched that O T game.
Kobe kept making shots and telling the team to calm down.
The ‘late great’ Kobe Bryant. Still find it hard to believe this is an apt description.
Mark is hallucinating lmao ahahhahahahahahha
Outside of Kobe & Shaq .. the Lakers weren’t that deep .
The Pacers definitely had a deeper squad , but the fact of the matter is the Lakers had Kobe & Shaq who were better than the entire Pacers team combined .
Mama, there goes that man!
Can this man get a coaching gig please
I wish I’ll have enough money to purchase an NBA team to make this down to earth gentleman the head coach for life.
Nobody ever talks about jalen roses averaged 24 in this finals
23 but close enough. We needed that
No cap. I met Ron Harper right after they won the championship in Naptown. Ron Harper had 5 rings on 4 fingers like a champion.
After that game 7 with the Blazers…I’m surprised that the pacers didn’t get swept.
Uncle Shay
Of course Mark Jackson is going to say that.
Come on Mark unless either Shaq or Kobe got hurt, Yall wasn't going to beat them. The Lakers had two superstar's the Pacers had one star in Reggie Miller.
WOW.......INSIGHT' DEPTH' OF MARK JACKSON....AS a PRO...ANALYST....
That’s a nice watch Shannon has on
I agree actually. They just had some horrific offensive droughts, and you can’t have that going against the best duo in nba history
Mark you are absolutely correct.
And then the Brawl. Man thats 3 chips we shoulda had. But we know how much they feared us.
You don't really think about how good that Pacers team was. Mark Jackson, Reggie, Jalen Rose, Rick Smits, Chris Mullin, Dale Davis etc
That lakers team was loaded it wasn’t just Shaq and Kobe. Kobe hadn’t reached his peak yet.
"I don't get 5 championships here without him" - Kobe's comment about Michael Jordan 🐐 in the Last Dance Documentary
The Pacers team in 2000 were too old, 1998 was their peak.
He’s right. They should’ve won. Especially given the old 2-3-2 format. But they didn’t
How can you say you should have beat them??? Never answered the question.
Who can guard the dunkin Dutchman? NOBODY
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they were the only tough series that The Lakers had in the finals, going into that series it was one of the most up-in-the-air finals ever at that point. Nobody was sure who would win. The Pacers were super deep and full of veterans.
I mean, Portland took them to the wire just the series before…
@@sterlingwilliams8645 "tough series in the finals"
I actually went to game one of that finals ...Pacers were deeper .. Lakers had a "pick your poison" offense with two of the very best players ever who count be stopped in single coverage supported by Glen Rice and some professional , competitive smart vet role players
Really? I ain't even gonna watch the video cauz the title didn't include Robert GOAT Horry.
He forgot Rick Fox too who was playing good defense on Miller
Yea Mark is right.
The better argument is that the 2005 Pacers squad should've won a championship
that was Larrys last year as a coach, too.
Reggie miller would cross you with that first step without even dribbling.
Uh, I think it went down the way it was supposed to go down.
Honestly that Pacers team would have lost to the Blazers that year too in the finals .
Exactly the 2000 WCF were the real Finals
Man that's me. I stole everyone's move but I didnt ask them. If I saw something I liked i worked on it
I think if the 98-99 season was a full season the pacers would have won easy
Yeah they should’ve won because that was their ONLY chance
Kobe was not prime Kobe yet lol. Pacers not winning🤷🏾♂️ if I wasn't for Kobe, they might've won.
We taught them how to play the game the right way.
Well they nearly beat the bulls in 98 and if they beat them in 98, they will be champions that year
I GUESS THE PACERS RELAXED WHEN SHAQ FOULED OUT THINKING IT WAS A GUARANTEED WIN
2 top ten players vs an old team full of Reggie talent
We are the reason kobe and jordan became so good.
Mark should be a coach he give it straight no dilly dallying
I’m sorry Mark you said a lot of good stuff but there isn’t a shot in a gun range that the pacers beat the SHAQ and Kobe lakers
Jalen Rose had to intentionally injure Kobe’s ankle just to have a chance
Rick Smits was a good player. Gave you everything he had. But just too slow for Shaq.
Imo the reason they won vs the pacers was because of Rick Fox defense, Shaq was Shaq, Kobe was Great, but Fox held excellent defense on Reggie when they switched because they kept making Kobe switch off Reggie because of 100 picks Reggie ran through!
The Refs beat us both times. 98 and 2000 hahahaahaha. They needed the help.
Yeah right Mark
No you should not have. Kobe missed basically 2 games and you still lost under 7 games.
Mark Jackson just showed us why he never landed another coaching job.
Bean is my GOAT 🐐 ⬅️
You wouldnt believe how many shannon sharpe cards I have.
Kings should've beat the Lakers also
Facts
Right
I remember too
@@dsanchez9703 they cheated them out game 6
FACTS, I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED THAT YEAR!!💯