Most Common Mistake in Watercolor Painting | Values

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    What's up? Liron here!
    And today I want to talk to you about one of the most common beginner-mistakes I see in watercolor painting.
    This has to do with VALUES, and getting them to:
    1. Be accurate
    2. Be varied (will depend on the reference).
    The 2nd example is something I've been dealing with a lot in the past, of mistakingly pushing the contrast a little too much, and darkening things unnecessarily.
    I hope this video helps you!
    Let me know what you think.
    And I will talk to you again really soon,
    - Liron
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Komentáře • 100

  • @rachelm7525
    @rachelm7525 Před 5 lety +15

    Yep. Too dark. That's me, I go way too dark too soon, and then you have nowhere else to go! Thanks for the vid, Liron! 🙂

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Haha, we're in the minority (;
      We can feel special.
      Thank you! ^_^

  • @judithp6257
    @judithp6257 Před 5 lety +26

    Thank you for this Liron. I’m a beginner of 2 years experience and struggling with values, and shadow colours also 😆, so I really appreciate the videos like these that you do!

    • @APArtChannel
      @APArtChannel Před 5 lety +1

      great.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +2

      So happy I can help ^_^
      Sometimes it can all click in just one moment, and then you're set!

  • @barbaraverser1056
    @barbaraverser1056 Před 5 lety +10

    I love the statement about being loyal to the values. When I began a few months ago, I was loyal to the "colors" of my image, but paid little attention to the values. When I watched your video on choosing colors tonite, I noticed how you really paid attention to the values of the fruit, seeing darks that I didn't see until you pointed them out. It was a really great learning moment for me. It was fantastic that I discovered this video right after that one, because it addresses that very issue. I've been hesitant to go dark enough, but when I do, it is such an exciting feeling, because it makes everything come alive. Thank you so much for sharing what you know!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      So happy these two videos connected for you 😊🙏🏼 Values really are important in achieving that highly desired realism. And for me - colors are my way of throwing the impressionism in there 😉🎨

  • @danthomas6587
    @danthomas6587 Před 5 lety +3

    The easiest thing to remember about value is that for the most part your tubes of paint ARE YOUR MIDDLE VALUE. And if you add water you can get lighter. If you add a compliment or Paynes or a dark grey or black then you can get a darker value.

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 Před 5 lety +3

    Yes, thank you. I’m struggling with the values. I am getting somewhere after 1.5 years but not even there so I’m loving this help! I never paint from photos though. I paint from life then take a photo when I’m done. I use it later to improve the painting.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      That's an excellent approach (:
      And don't worry about time, it took my about 3 years just to figure out I was making this mistake in the first place! 😛

  • @lynnfetzer6424
    @lynnfetzer6424 Před 4 lety +3

    This was VERY helpful! Thanks for taking the time to work through it and explain the methods!

  • @velvetbees
    @velvetbees Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you Liron. It's been a long time since I painted in watercolors and your videos are very helpful in bringing back the methods. Also, that's a great building to paint. I really love the Old World architecture.

  • @NMranchhand
    @NMranchhand Před 2 lety

    Super, focused lesson. Well done.

  • @dianequinn1500
    @dianequinn1500 Před 5 lety +1

    This tutorial ranks amongst the very best I've seen.

  • @nathanielbarragan882
    @nathanielbarragan882 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm just starting, and once I saw this, I decided to look at some that I've done before, and I definitely do the first one. My contrast is not strong enough. I'm still not used to to the fact that watercolor dries much lighter than how it looks at first, so all values in my paintings are very light, but I still have trouble with contrast. I think I'll start trying to be more brave in my painting and try using darker values.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Yes! That's the way to go 😁
      By exploring more courageously you'll find your other "edge", and then will come balance.
      Thank you 🙏🏼

  • @kaymartin3907
    @kaymartin3907 Před 5 lety +5

    Thank you-- both happens to me, keep up good work! I’m learning from you all the time.
    Don’t usually comment, but enjoy all your videos,

    • @APArtChannel
      @APArtChannel Před 5 lety

      like these

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Thank you so much ^_^
      Really appreciate you watching the videos!

  • @vstanick
    @vstanick Před 2 lety

    Thank you! Great lesson, great thoughts!

  • @rosemarymoore3142
    @rosemarymoore3142 Před 2 lety

    Just found your demo,great it was so helpful!! Thank you.

  • @afrinmalka09
    @afrinmalka09 Před 5 lety +3

    Hi Luron,thank you for pointing it out.I try to do shadows less dark and it kills the beauty of the painting.Will try and apply your knowledge to mine painting for now on.Do more videos on painting shadows as I find them quite hard to figure out.

    • @APArtChannel
      @APArtChannel Před 5 lety

      I find a lot of watercolor channels setting up palettes, but they always use the same brand together and end up being reviews more than anything else

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Happy I can help ^_^
      It comes down to getting it to be close to the reference, most of the time.
      If it's close, it should look good.
      Also - sometimes we are too close to the picture to see it is quite accurate (a part of the artist curse) (;

  • @pranjalshelar3830
    @pranjalshelar3830 Před 4 lety

    And if you made it too dark by mistake you can darken the light part of the architecture.... It's all about the sudden change from very dark to very light it doesn't look natural.... In my previous painting i thought i made the light part too light..... But you made it all clear... Now i know my mistake.... Thank you very much... Love your work... 🤟✌🙏

  • @TheJudeJane
    @TheJudeJane Před 5 lety +1

    Excellent instruction! Great tips on what NOT to do to get more accuracy/detail WITHIN shadow areas. Thank you very much, Liron, for this enlightening video!🌟💖👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Thank you so much 😊🙏🏼
      I'm happy I can help!

  • @VioletConnieArt
    @VioletConnieArt Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks so much, this is great info! I'm guilty of both going too light and too dark at different times.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Happy this helps ^_^ Thank you
      I almost never go too light haha

  • @user-wd5xz6ev8p
    @user-wd5xz6ev8p Před 2 lety

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH YOUR LESSONS ARE WONDERFUL!

  • @anng.r.687
    @anng.r.687 Před 10 měsíci +1

    If you weren’t demonstrating this, would you have painted the entire castle in light beige and then add dark shadow over it? Or would you just paint light beige in the light and just paint the shadow in the shadow color (without layering)?

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 10 měsíci

      Great question - I don't have a predetermined go to these days.
      I go with what I feel at the moment.
      My vision and intuition takes utmost precedence over everything else.
      But either way would work, as long as I truly stay loyal to my vision.
      Hope that makes sense!
      (P.S. and the result with be 10 times better if not filmed haha)

  • @btwilks
    @btwilks Před 5 lety +3

    A very useful video, Liron - thanks for posting this one. I definitely suffer from the 'getting it too dark too early' syndrome ... ... probably from always reading (when I started watercolour) that most beginners leave everything too pale and insipid. So far I've not been successful at adding glazes to slowly build up tone, as I've been using wood pulp paper, where the underlying layers always get disturbed by the glazes - with 'mud' being the common result :-( However, I've started using cotton paper more (Arches and Bee paper) so maybe I'll be able to try the 'added glazes' approach to avoid the too dark values taking over the painting. Thanks again for the demonstration and for all your contributions via your Y/Tube channel. Best wishes, Brian.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Oh, I know exactly what you mean!
      Pulp paper doesn't really absorb the paint. Glazing is nearly impossible.
      Happy you made the switch. I'm sure you'll see improvement 🙏🏼😊
      And you can be happy to be in the minority of getting it too dark haha. I find 80% are the other way around, in my experience.
      At least we are brave 😂

  • @plakjeham118
    @plakjeham118 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you do a video about value relationships?

  • @maggiefreeman6513
    @maggiefreeman6513 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you. That all makes sense.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 3 lety

      So happy to hear Maggie! 😊🙏🏼 Thank you!

  • @roxannekeomaka4754
    @roxannekeomaka4754 Před 5 lety

    Love this video. Thanks for demonstrating shadow and value mistakes. Sometimes your explanations make me laugh out loud, which always keeps me engaged

  • @lindathaxton1994
    @lindathaxton1994 Před 3 lety

    Excellent good teacher - thank you

  • @sweethomes674
    @sweethomes674 Před rokem

    Excellent process 😊

  • @kaiimochii4906
    @kaiimochii4906 Před 3 lety +1

    Can i use that combo (dark blue and brown) for the shadow for every piece?

  • @barbrajoan2554
    @barbrajoan2554 Před 5 lety +4

    Liron, very good vid today, much to be learned here. These contrasts are so important in watercolor and can make or break a painting.
    Sorry for being away lately but having pc problems 😕, and waiting on a new laptop. 😉. Your doing great. !! Thanks for all you do .
    Barbra Joan

    • @APArtChannel
      @APArtChannel Před 5 lety +1

      always charismatic .

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you so much Barbra, no worries.
      Hope you get your new laptop soon and it's fantastic! It's always fun ^_^

  • @chantelmcskimming6633
    @chantelmcskimming6633 Před 3 lety

    really nice demo!!! thank you :-) super clear

  • @1tlb0k61
    @1tlb0k61 Před 3 lety +1

    Wonderful tutorial! Thank you

  • @Ameriix_
    @Ameriix_ Před 5 lety +1

    I definitely have the problem of going too dark, and everything turnes streaky because the paint is so thick. This is very helpful, thanks Liron!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Oh I know EXACTLY what you mean! Haha - the thicker the mix, the faster you have to work at times.
      Thank you 😊🙏🏼

  • @angiewright-artist8246
    @angiewright-artist8246 Před 5 lety +3

    Fantastic video that will really help me so much. Thank you for making this video Liron!!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      So happy to hear, thank you for the kind words ^_^

  • @MarenGermany
    @MarenGermany Před 2 lety

    Really good advice. Thanks.

  • @captaindrywall
    @captaindrywall Před 5 lety +1

    great examples, it brings to mind I make buildings to small

  • @themeparksvisionart
    @themeparksvisionart Před 5 lety +4

    Brilliant show how use shade great work! 👍😀

  • @cookingdownsouthwithcarol8909

    Very helpful! Thank you!

  • @ivyclara9782
    @ivyclara9782 Před 5 lety +2

    This is very helpful to me. I am a beginner. Yesterday I painted a girl in a sweater and found that I darkened it too much. I wanted to go back in and add some lines to show that it was indeed a knitted sweater and could not because my 1st wash was too dark.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you - happy to help (:
      This used to happen to me so many times in the past!

  • @APArtChannel
    @APArtChannel Před 5 lety +1

    Great idea, it looks very interesting and appealing.

  • @johnnywhatevah5201
    @johnnywhatevah5201 Před 5 lety +4

    Nice vid. Great advice for beginners to advanced watercolourists. How about a vid that is more of a "challenge" style; something that would bring all the previous "Color Shows" together in a personal way, such as "My Perfect Palette". I find a lot of watercolor channels setting up palettes, but they always use the same brand together and end up being reviews more than anything else. How about an opinion vid that uses different brands for different colors that you would use as a "perfect palette". Just an idea. Thanks for not separarting "us CZcams watchers" from "them, the Paetron givers". It is very kind of you to be so sharing.

    • @APArtChannel
      @APArtChannel Před 5 lety

      Brilliant show

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Interesting idea, thank you for the suggestion (:
      Most of my palettes actually have such odd mixes of brands, so a video like that could actually work haha.
      Will see about that.
      Thank you for the kind words too ^_^

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 Před 5 lety

      Johnny Whatevah paint colors aren’t that important. Just get a good brand or brands of artist quality paints. And you don’t need 30 colors. I got more than 30 because I could at the time and I’m glad to have them but really 12 or so will do fine. A limited palette keeps you focused on the most important thing which is values. I do prefer M Graham Sepia, Payne’s Grey and Raw Umber to others I’ve tried but I don’t like their Sap Green.

  • @annathey2222
    @annathey2222 Před 5 lety +1

    I really relate to your teaching style. Thank you, I need to check out your online courses.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼 I’m really close to publishing a watercolor course on my own website. Will keep you updated!

  • @sassyraggs3763
    @sassyraggs3763 Před 5 lety +1

    Great tutorial. I'm going to use the suggestions.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼
      Thank you!

  • @maryharrell-bond1625
    @maryharrell-bond1625 Před 5 lety

    Absolutely love just what I was looking for thank you for giving sharing talent

  • @reuven1961
    @reuven1961 Před 5 lety +2

    Very instructive video. I enjoyed it !!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Thank you ^_^
      So happy to hear!

  • @rosemarshall1219
    @rosemarshall1219 Před 3 lety +1

    « Playing around with the values » is definitely your second name !!😀

  • @trisht5064
    @trisht5064 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you so much liron this has been very helpful 👍👍

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      So happy to hear 😊🙏🏼
      Thank you

  • @shona4321
    @shona4321 Před 5 lety +2

    Good advice. Thank you.

  • @Chena_Pan
    @Chena_Pan Před 3 lety

    Why don't you use the same colors as the building but darken them to make the shadows?

  • @mariannazaitseva1487
    @mariannazaitseva1487 Před 5 lety +2

    Its about improving our visual language:)

  • @Hartproduktie
    @Hartproduktie Před 5 lety

    Thanks a lot Liron Greetings from Holland

  • @lynncraig6151
    @lynncraig6151 Před 4 lety

    I like doing glazes . I'm slow . I don't want to have to rub a color out to lighten it with tissues if I make a mistake which are many.

  • @devdiksha
    @devdiksha Před 4 lety

    it's very difficult to get the right value of colors because when the paint is wet, all the colors look bright and nice and after drying some pigment becomes very light, almost invisible. Because of this, most of my first washes get dark. Do you know any tips to avoid that?

  • @zoweegeewhiz
    @zoweegeewhiz Před 5 lety +1

    I very much like your style.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Thank you, so happy to hear 😊🙏🏼

  • @dawncfoster7698
    @dawncfoster7698 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you. 👍

  • @shahzadqurashi7728
    @shahzadqurashi7728 Před rokem

    Great

  • @user-md3rc9hb2s
    @user-md3rc9hb2s Před 10 měsíci

    Hello, I tried to access your drawing course but it is nit accessible - has it been discontinued?

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 10 měsíci

      Hey - it should be accessible (:
      Are you trying to login or purchase?
      If logging in, you can do that here: drawanythingusee.com/
      If purchasing, here's the link: bit.ly/2Gn4rOIDrawYT
      If you're still having trouble, you can email me at Liron @ Lironyan . com

  • @jnetphillips7996
    @jnetphillips7996 Před 3 lety

    Go easy with foliage. Detail will happen.

  • @brianpan6453
    @brianpan6453 Před 5 lety +1

    close captioning should be mandatory on YT videos today.

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Wow, they should - and I have no idea why this one doesn't.
      All of my videos do (the auto-generated ones, which is better than nothing).
      Thank you for letting me know - I'll look into this.
      Went over all settings and it seems like they are unavailable for some reason. Super frustrating.

    • @brianpan6453
      @brianpan6453 Před 5 lety

      @@LironYan , thnx. I have a congenital hearing defect and they're a big help.

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 Před 5 lety

      Brian Pan why today? Today is Sunday.

    • @brianpan6453
      @brianpan6453 Před 5 lety

      @@elsagrace3893 , does that mean the close captions are at church? 🙏🏻 ✝️ 😯

  • @aurodeepray9959
    @aurodeepray9959 Před 5 lety +1

    First!

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety +1

      Congrats (;

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 Před 5 lety

      Aurodeep Ray no, no you are not 🤨 You will have to find something else to be today.

  • @dawncfoster7698
    @dawncfoster7698 Před 5 lety +2

    Too many words. Please don’t use 14 words when 5 would work. It’s hard to follow you. But I love you traing

    • @LironYan
      @LironYan  Před 5 lety

      Haha thank you and sorry about that 😂 sometimes I tend to ramble

  • @robertg786
    @robertg786 Před 5 lety

    You need to calm down and economize with your words. Be consise and get on with it. I stopped trying to listen half way through your presentation and thats ashame because you hae alot to offer.