Phoenix 2400 RC Glider | Volantex 759-3 review and flight
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An excellent glider to start in the hobby, with 2400 mm of wingspan it's a big intimidating glider but amazing at the same time, flies as good as it looks and the price is just the best, the material is very flexible and durable. for more information about this glider visit bit.ly/2kpgMge
Phoenix 2400 RC Glider - from Volantex 759-3 Capable of flying like a normal plane, slope soaring and gliding.
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I have it and i love it 😍 On board Mini Pix with Ardu Pilot stabilization system and on the wings i have "Easy lights" - navigation lights. Looks amazing ❤️😋
@Toscik_BMX Polska 🇵🇱👍
@@zbigniewkrol81 Mam RadioLinka AT10II i chcę kupić właśnie taki szybowiec. Nie wiem tylko czy lepiej samolot Volantex Ascent 747 -8 czy taki Szybowiec. Mam już doświadczenie w lotach bo latałem. Pomożesz?
Samolot czy szybowiec? :)
@@fpvdestroyer7128 Witaj! Zdecydowanie wybrałbym szybowiec (motoszybowiec). Samolot jest szybki - w sensie dużo się dzieje, a szybowcem, latasz sobie dostojnie i elegancko. Nie potrzebujesz dużo energii, ja często wyłączam silnik. Szybowiec jest również mniej podatny na uszkodzenia. Fakt - ciężko znaleźć fajne miejsce do latania i lądowisko. Ja bym wybrał szybowiec, choć sam zastanawiałem się nad samolotem.
Witam, również interesuje się modelarstwem i dziękuję za opisy i rady. Pozdro
@@januszpolski4228 Dzięki chłopaki. Jak są pytania to śmiało 🤗 Teraz będę wkładał OSD. Więc ja mam na pokładzie wszystko od Radiolink'a + AT10. Przyznaję trochę nerwów i czasu mnie to kosztowało. Nie wiem tylko czy RTH zadziała i nie wiem jak to sprawdzić 🤪 Ustawiłem krążenie na 40m w promieniu 100m. Boje się przełączyć, żeby się nie rozwalić 😉 W stabilize mode lata się bajecznie 🥰
Very nice presentation. Very informative. Just about to open the box and start assembly of my Phoenix 2400 . Looks like I’m in for good sailing ! ! Thanks for your effort. Keep Em Flying!
Production value on your video is awesome. Nice job and great review!
I really enjoyed the production value of your video. Very well done.
Nice ! I can't wait to get one of these!
Very nice Video. I also have the Phoenix and can confirm all you can see here.
But I hav a strongly recommended suggestion for improvement. Joyplanes RC2 is using a 4S battery. After starting with 3S, I also used a 4S and changed the propeller to a 6,5/12. The motor can do it and provides lot of power.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED: After launch with little throttle I switched to full throttle in abt 50 metres hight, and in the same moment I heard a big bang. The front end of the fuselage broke, the motor was coming out, propeller broke, only the cables prevented the motor disappearing completely. I could do a save emergency landing with heart rate 180.
So I strongly recommend to strengthen the front of fuselage with epoxy and carbon- or glass material. The plastic is much to weak at the front.
Wow that is one crazy story. Sounds like your plane could not handle the added stress from the larger prop and stronger battery. Better stick to stock recommendations.
I had a very similar experience with my Phoenix 2000 about 10 years ago. Only difference was I was using the recommended 3S power system. The weak link is the mounting hub of the plastic propeller blades, that area where the bolt anchors the blade to the spinner. It simply can't cope with the loads imposed by startup,loads imposed by full throttle running, and I suspect upon landing when one blade may be dangling down and makes contact with the ground, weaking / cracking the material around the bolt hole.
Anyway, during powered flight, one blade let go, the out of balance situation resulted in the exact same damage experienced by the original poster above.
Since that day, I now only use quality folding propeller spinners, hardware AND carbon fiber propeller blades from quality manufacturers. Zero issues since 😊
Good Morning!!! Great video, thanks for sharing with us, best regards !!! What's new on my channel? A video with the Volantex 757-3 ... every new flight with this model is still a big challenge for me and it confirmed that I still have a lot to learn ... Arkbird alerts of excessive instability and RSSI radio signal loss created a few minutes of great stress until I can land the model without damage ... you are always welcome !!!
Great plane & hobby
Nice review and lovely aerial filming. One warning, for those who have RC aircraft designed for 3 cell LiPo batteries, please check the specifications on the ESC and motor before using a 4 cell battery. They may fail catastrophically causing loss of your plane and possibly injury to others.
Thanks for this comprehensive and high quality video!
I am wondering of having this model to slope soaring. There is plenty of wind at my place, almost all the time.
Do you think it is possible to have an unpowered version of this plane?
It is really hard to find a model like this one with no motor at all!
I think I'm going to purchase one of these 😎
❤😊looks great, is the motor with plenty of power, stock- wouldn't like such a big plane to be underpowered 😊
Thanks for sharing. I just bought my first motorized glider, the Arrows SZD-54 2m. I am very new to gliders and appreciate your suggestions. Do you have any thoughts for setting up the radio, mixes, or flight modes for longer flight times?
Nice help
Excelente vídeo! Sería posible ponerle una FPV con variómetro? Muchas gracias
Bro I'm from India I can't support u financially but I can support u by sharing your video. U really make educational video which I enjoy and get to know more things about aeroplanes. So, I just want say u thanx and love and support from India.
Thanks for the review. As a new flyer I'm looking for a new glider. I'm learning on a Durafly Ugly Stik. I've chosen not to use any type of Safe technology and I have an excellent teacher. I will probably finish my lessons in a few weeks. I'm currently fixing up a Goldberg Sophisticated Lady 2 meter glider that I inherited from a club member. It's a 2 channel glider that I plan to hi-start launch. Would this model be a good next step for a 4 channel model that can be programmed for crow mixing and the like or would something else be better? Thanks....I just discovered your channel today.
Yo tengo a su hermano. El evolution de 2.6 metros. Una pasada. Saludos desde españa
Buen vídeo Joyvel
AWESOME 👌👍
Hallo for the flaps you must use the elevator or your plane makes a jump upstairs thank you
I have the Phoenix Volantex V2 2000mm. Waiting for Spektrum thermal module, they've been sold out for some time now. Forget the correct name of the module.
Grande!
using a 4s lipo do you use the 800 kv motor or 1050 motor?
Hey, great video!! I wanted to buy the same plane, but I am having trouble with the battery and the charger. What should I buy for a battery and charger?
Is it possible to make a tuorial on how to mount fpv and autopilot on this one. And is it possible using a flysky controller?
AWSOME except that I'm a beginner ! Is there a smaller model with the same quality ?
I am using a 4S 2600mAh lipo and this boost the plane a lot and make it agile !
He’s trying not to add to much weight. The point of a powered glider is only to get it to altitude and then cut throttle
I should have gotten that glider instead of the ASW 28. The hinges on that are great. My asw28 came very damiged
I sold my asw onwards and bought a V2 2000. The asw needs perfect CG to fly right. The longer chord on the V2 is much more forgiving and enjoyable
This looked like a rather fast glider. Or was it just camera effect? I am looking for a slow stately machine for desert thermals. Would this be a fit for those needs?
Great presentation
Where can I buy it with all the electronic components?
bellissimo volo, puoi dirmi a quanti mm. hai messo le escursioni su alettoni elevatore e direzionale? grazie ciao
very nice :)
Sir what camera live you offer to use in this glider?
Great glider! (I have V2 2000 version). But you haven't cleared a question how to tune a prop stop on the ESC.
Unplug the battery. Move your stick to full throttle. Plug in battery. Hear four beeps, then one more beep. Move stick to zero throttle. Your ESC should now be in brake mode. I have a flight controller installed. For me these steps worked using the Outputs tab in iNav, but not using the throttle stick. I expect that without the flight controller, you can do it with the throttle stick directly.
can you please tell me average wing chord length and air foil thickness of this plane please
What is the best LiPo?
3S 50C 2200mAh ?
What mark?
I want to use CNHL but i dont know that this is good. I think that they got fake "C" on this batts. Like 100C is fake?
The higher C i think is 50C.
Please help!
Great Vid mate!
May i ask which FPV cam setup are you using?
Cheers
That was not an fpv set-up it was just an action camera attached to it.
Getting one soon, my older asw28 was extremely nose heavy , should the CG on a glider be really balanced or it is ok to have it nose heavy. ? I saw your CG @5:05, but it looks nose heavy too.!! I used to place the battery in the upper compartment in the old asw28!. Do you like it more or the asw28.
What is the width of the wing? What is the dimensions of the tail (Length and width)?
Great video. May I know what else is not included in the kit which I need to purchase on my own? Which controller do you recommend?
You need the lipo batteries, 3S from 2000mah to 4000 mah and a charger for them, you need your radio system with receiver, try Flysky i6, and that's pretty much it. A better radio will be a frsky, or other brads with more channels but the Flysky i6 is enough to begin with.
What radio/controller you are using?
Hi !
Cool review !
You used 4S 4000, did you face to any issues with the 4S setup ? A friend tries but the propeller attachement broke.... is yours still OK ? no cracks on the side of the engine attachment ?
With the 4S Setup, is the glider more efficient but not to speedy ? it seems that original servos are too weak when speed is too high :)
Thanks :)
I use 4S to climb faster but acceleration should be gentle, I don't use it to fly faster.
See my newest post. I also used 4S and 6,5/12 propeller. The Motor can do, but the fuselage is too weak and broke.
Good video. The only issue I have is the quality of the airplane. Just read the comments and you'll get an idea of some of the issues. Personally, I don't like the foam. It may be resistant to dents and dings but if you market a plane for the beginner you can be assured that it's going to take some damage at one point or another which brings me to my point. Foam is really tough to do any meaningful repair to. Longer wings only makes things worse, think basic physics, lever arm length and the stresses placed on a wing root if you dig a tip in during landing... Ask 10 flyers about foam planes and you'll get 10 different answers, I know. I guess it's up to you to decide. Do your research, look at comments and pick a manufacturer that has a solid history in delivering quality and reliability. Personally, I don't think that Banggood fits any of those criteria.
nice
Hi how many C do you think Is good for this plane? 30C it's enough?
Hi, i'm new subscriber on your channel.
I interested to hit subscribe button because your explanation is very good. And you fly the plane very fun.
Thanks, I wait your next project.
The servo's are from a pore quality i here from reviews and it's wise to toss them out for better servo's before the first flight.
Anyone Phoenix 2400 owners have advice on flap settings, and the corresponding elevator compensation? Thought I knew what I was doing but yesterday's crash proved I was wrong. Help!
Beatiful video ! are you using the stock esc? and how is the flight time with battery you are using?
Hi, I'm flying with the ESC that comes with it. The 4000 mAh 4S battery last for about 30 min with moderate use or even longer gliding as much as possible.
Im using 2200mAh 3S and flying about 20min that is safety time. In the air, sometimes my engine switch off.
@@Joyplanes Hi, Did you have to calibrate the ESC? My motor starts at 40% of throttle stick.. What is the correct precedure to calibrate the ESC?
Hello Joyplanes,
Really nice review, I just got my phoenix 2400. I want to ask you what are settings of the control surface travel (up/down) for the ailerons, rudder and elevator? Thanks..!
Well I just used as far as they can move but that is normally a lot, so you can experiment by setting them all the way and then see if needs more adjustment. It wont over control with the far movements.
@@Joyplanes Many thanks for the info..! I like your videos...Keep going..!
7:59 u said we can mount a flight controller what can be done with it ? And please also do tell me what camera you have mounted here ...
The flight controller can use a GPS and other sensors to autopilot the plane and have different modes. The camera I used is a Yi4K but any action camera can be used.
im a beginer and have a few rhino 3s 2200mah, would they work well and still be able to so aerobatics or is a 4s better ?
also what is the esc max cells, im thinking of possibly 2 3s 2200 ?
How much aileron travel do you have in each direction? Mine is very difficult to roll, very slow to roll.
This glider is not made to roll fast. Even with a great aileron travel.
beautiful flight, can you tell me how many mm. did you put the excursions on elevator and rudder ailerons? thanks bye
That's in the instructions of it I think, but try with 10mm first, to one side and 10mm to the other (20mm total travel)
@@Joyplanes ok grazie
The decals kept falling off mine, I had to tape them on.
Beautiful flying. I flew my Phoenix 2000 today and it was tons of fun and also my first Rc plane. Only problem is I came into land and when I turned the flaps on, the glider pulled straight up, stalled, then went into a nosedive. I quickly went max throttle and pulled up and it missed the ground by about 20cm. Do you know why the flaps would have done that?
That's normal because the flaps generate more lift, I manually counteract that pushing some down elevator, but if you make a mix in your radio to automatically put down elevator when the flaps are active that would save you some stress.
@@Joyplanes ahh okay that clears everything up. I had a feeling I had to counter it manually or something. Thanks for the reply 👍
Hallo you must mix with your elevator with the flaps or you have that problem
@@Joyplanes I'm a big fan of your channel, and a glider enthusiast. I would like to try a Phoenix glider but I don't know if taking a 2400 or try the 2kV2, which is smaller but I've heard that flies better and is less draggy. Please, what would you suggest me is the best phoenix glider? I was also considering the 1600S, but may be too small for my current stock of batteries. Thanks very much!!
@@pablolozoyaparada5260 Can you send me a link to that 2kV2? I'm not sure which one it is. Thanks.
Sir, please tell me how much battery time does it have?
That depends on the battery you use, normally 20 min but it could go up to 1 hour with a bigger battery.
Hi just got mine yesterday can I ask how you set it up did you mix flaps with aileron and rudder with aileron?
I just use everything in It's separate channel. I like flying manually with no mixing of ruder. About the flaps you can't mix them with ailerons because they come connected with a Y harness.
@@Joyplanes thanks for replying I have just finished setting up crow braking but can't mix elevator for balloon effect so i will see how that goes
A nice plane, I have one and it is great on the slope! The Rudder could be bigger, it just has effect, when completely left or right.
As a thermal glider it sucks though. Turns with too much speed and height loss. And in general is too draggy. But very nice and fun to fly!!
Yes it has a lot of drag, that's because of the wide wings and the airfoil but still good for the prce.
Joyplanes RC 2 I absolutely agree. Great for the prize and fun to fly!
my friend and I bought two of these planes and both on 4S, have a sudden engine cutoff with a strange noise. I believe the motor goes out of Syncro. We have solved the issue by lowering the engine power to 55 percent. This means this plane cannot fly with 4s. Any suggestion? have you experienced the same problem? thanks.
Hi, yes I have experienced the same problem, I still use the 4S some times because the battery last longer, I think it's the ESC that comes with these planes but I haven't tested it yet.
Joyplanes RC 2 thanks for replying. If so I’ll try a different esc and see.
@@Joyplanes I agree, almost definately the esc. Get a decent quality 50-60A esc and enjoy..
@@Joyplanes I had the same problem on 4S. I tried to address that by using a 60Amp ESC (same type/factory, different name), though same cutting-out issue. Tried another 60A ESC (from Eflite, used for the 300 Extra 3D 1.3m), which solved the problem (though has no airbrake). I flew it for a few weeks (short bursts of full power at a time), though finally I had a longer high-speed run (maybe 65-70 mph, on full power for maybe 10-15 seconds after already flying a bit faster for a few minutes) and burnt out the motor during a low (very good looking :) ) fly-by, which unfortunately shortcut the ESC temporarily and turned and pushed/blocked one aileron servo and the rudder servo in one direction, pushing the plane into the ground after an uncontrollable sideward stall. Back at home, I verified this BEC issues by plugging in the battery again. Shortcut motor still plugged in (and smoking as expected), the 2 servos were locked while others were still working, then all started working again once I unplugged the motor a few seconds later). So I replaced the damaged motor with the same stock type, still using the Eflite ESC which still works, and am flying the plane on 3S, for the time being with its usual 50mph or so top speed without dive.
So I guess the 4023/1050kv could not take my 5200mah/80C 4S batteries after all. I am still on the search for a 4S+ capable motor that could reliably hotrod the Phoenix and that I can mount (in reverse?). Any thoughts?
Hi Joy, what's the exact 4s battery you are using in there?
5000 mAh from hobbyking, it only works fine if you are not putting additional weight.
@@Joyplanes you change esc or still using stock?
@@dodi535 I use the stock one but i recommend getting a better one.
flight time?
hi sorry disturb you can i know what is the best rate and expo for this phoenix 2400
I don't remember, but use standard ones and change them as you go.
ok thanks for your advise 😘👌👍👍👍
Excellent video. Professional cinematography! I bought this one two weeks ago, but I'm a raw beginner, still using the RF Simulator to learn how to fly. In the meanwhile, I'm trying to connect the channels to see if the servos work. They don't! I managed to get the FlySky FS-i6X to bind with the FS-iA10B receiver, but I'm getting no movement from the servos. I see your servos move without your battery connected. I'm puzzled. What's that blue box with the yellow inside the fuselage at 3:42?
Hi, the servos should be connected to the right channel and the blue thing is a battery just to power the servos, basically a battery pack of 4X AA batteries.
About the blue box, I think it is a battery in order to power up the receiver and servos without sending power to ESC (you can see that the XT60 is not linked to a lipo). It allows you to check that receiver is working and servos too, without any risk with the propeller (you can see propeller mounted) if motor starts.
@@abdrx Thank you for your reply! I do not have a battery pack, but I managed to get the FlySky FS-i6X to bind with the FS-iA10B receiver using the supplied bind cable and 3S battery. (I didn't bother charging it, as I'm not going to fly before I'm really good in the simulator). Also, I didn't connect the ailerons and flaps yet; only the elevator and rudder. (The wings are too large for comfort, so I put them away intending to test them later).
The four wires sticking out of the fuselage are labelled CH2, CH3, CH4, CH5, so I connected them all to the same labelled pins on the receiver. Initially, I had them all connected while I tried to bind, but that didn't work until I disconnected them all first. Now I have them connected again, switching on the transmitter, with the XT60 plugged in, but nope nothing moves!
Any suggestions from you will be greatly appreciated.
Edit: Also the ESC is connected where I had the bind cable connected.
@@JohanBesterphotos Sorry, I don't know about this radio, but is you are sure at 100% that transmitter and receiver are bind, it has to work.
But on some radio, you have to configure the radio by creating a model in order to make it work.
and did you put the connector in the right direction ?
Check some tuto on youtube.
Sorry, can't do better ...
@@abdrx There are so many possible configurations and I may have connected the ESC upside-down! By the way, the plugs are so tight that I have to use a lot of force to plug and unplug them-not very friendly to my fingers. The manual is not very helpful either. Thank you for answering. I'm not too worried yet though, as I still have to put in many more hours on the simulator. I realize that to continue with my new hobby, I'll have to learn more about electronics and go and buy some tools, like a glue gun, soldering iron and pliers. I like challenges though. : )
the elevator its detachable? if you go to flight you bild there? or are ready?
Only the wings are detachable.
@@Joyplanes i think the elevator and the rader he have 4 screws and you can disassembly and put it at a bag for example?
@@dukepapas Yes, but they are tricky to put, so I prefer to leave them alone once they're in.
@@Joyplanes little time more yes tricky i dont think so......i want to buy it because i have only moto and no car so i want to go for fly and i think to take this to put inside...... www.ebay.com/itm/401412681156?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
How did you make the intro? Looks similar to other CZcams intros and I would like to make one!
You have to know how to use a bit after effects and I bought it from Envato market, there are premiere pro versions too.
Joyplanes RC 2 thanks!
I subscribed, great video!
Just wow . Me too wanted to have it but can't afford it 😭😭
like this plane , but I don't have open field for it to fly . 😔
Hello, what is the maximum altitude?
As long as you have signal you can fly, but legally is only about 400 feet.
Volantex uses cheap plastic gear servo's that strip easily.
Have 2 fail during testing on 2 different models.
Better to buy the kit and install metal gear servo's like those white hobbyking ones.
Then you can also choose a better motor prop combination; a bigger diameter lower pitched one on a lower kv motor is a much more efficient setup then the included fast turning plastic one.
The Graupner cam prop / precision spinner are good , not cheap though.
could you link the servos
@@levedelson1924 hobbyking.com/en_us/hobbykingtm-hk15148b-digital-servo-2-8kg-0-14sec-19g.html?wrh_pdp=3
those i have good experiences with but keep in mind that even these are not totally bulletproof; a bad crash still can damage the gears or the case. (buy a spare;)
In the fuse you have room for bigger ones so you can use even stronger/ more robust ones there and if you want to spend a bit more you can use the wing servo's like
hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-tgy-811-slim-wing-ds-mg-servo.html
There is no need oto use the same servo's for all functions as long its symmetrical ; use same servo's for flaps and same same for ailerons but you can use different for ailerons then for flaps.
No need ot go for a fast servo better choose a stronger "slower" one since "slow" is still fast enough.
And get a receiver so you can give every servo/esc its own channel.
Got the asw28 and mix flaps to act like ailerons for better control.
Also moving the ailerons up a little when the flaps go down slows the model even more and makes sure any stall is straight ahead. These gliders are great to experiment with. :)
Duration flight?
Depends on the battery, could be 15 or 50 min
Hello, when do you know that you are running out of battery? :-)
You can install a simple telemetry sensor or a buzzer but if you don't have any of those you will notice how the power goes down a bit and with experience you'll know when to land.
@@Joyplanes Thanks a lot for your time and reply! :-)
I have the Phoenix 2000 and I do not like it much. Not enough motor cooling, no rudder authority, heavy because of the plastic fuselage, hard to disassemble the wing in two pieces, pitches up very strong when opening the throttle and it's a fast glider and I prefer slow ones. I see they did at least improve on the wing and cooling.
The cooling is ok in this version, it is very slow with flaps extended and not extremely fast when flying normally. I'd say is very good.
Isn't this Phoenix Park?
Yes yo fly there you have to be part of the Leinster model flying club
@@Joyplanes My Leinster model flying club app is now submitted and pending!
Is that a plane or glider?
Both
@@Joyplanes
Nah, can't be both if you know what the definition of 'glider' is and what it means.
@@mickcarson8504 Sir, it is an airplane. Air - Plane means basically a plane shape or wing that goes through the air, and a glider is a subfamily of airplanes.
Can u give me how much rs
Quality of fiitings, servos, pushrods etc not good at all.
After much mucking about got a really good flier now.
Reinforced all the leading edges with Duct tape as well as the wing tips as they are really fragile.
Used 2 x 3s 11v batteries in the nose to get the COG correct. good thing as I now have about 50 minutes of fight time.
assembly
Hobby King is $50 less