Overlanding in the Pisgah and Cherokee National Forests along the Smoky Mountain 1000
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- Join Deb and Bill as they embark on an overlanding adventure along the Smoky Mountain 1000 Dual Sport route in the Cherokee and Pisgah National Forests. The amount of waterfalls is unbelievable!
4:00 Use a snatch block off one of the trees on the left, roll it out that way off the road. That's how we move rocks and trees.
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I agree. We have used that method before too
It’s nice to see someone Overlanding in my home state of NC. I been on a few trail around Grandfather Mountain buts it’s been nice to see there are more trails then I realize. Love your channel!!
Thanks! There are a lot of trails in that area
Enjoyed watching this 👌
Thanks
Great content.. really enjoyed your videos. Just found you guys and as a NC resident, I look forward to wheeling some of the routes you've taken.
Thank you for the awesome compliment! We really enjoy NC!
The jeep looks awesome, love watching it flex!
Thanks!
My wife and I really enjoy watching you videos, great job and keep em coming!
Thank you! We are glad you all enjoy them@
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Keep the vids coming they are very good.
Thank you very much!
Top notch, as I have come to expect!
Jeep looks great,and looks like it works as good.
Thanks! The Jeep does work great! Clayton definitely makes some top notch products!
Great adventure, the scenery was awesome!
Yes it was!
Another new sub. Enjoying your videos and adventures.
Thank you very much!
Beautiful country, and a fun looking drive.
It is for sure.
New to overland travel and camping. I love your videos
Thanks for watching
Snatch block with a tree seems like a good move
It would have been a good move. We just wanted to move it enough to go around
Very nice work. Really enjoy you video and narration. Look forward to seeing more of you adventures. Thanks for sharing. New sub.
Thank you for the awesome compliment and for the sub!
Nice video, Beautiful scenery
Thank you and it was beautiful!
Love waching your footage. came here by searching scalers/crawlers
I own almost the same orange jeep in scaler model 😁 t.
This movies and your 4x4 gives me good inspiration 😉👍
Thank you very much! Glad we can be an inspiration
beautiful area ,great job on the filming
Yes it is and thank you!
Nicely done!
Thank you
your wife has nerves of steel and total complete trust and confidence in you and your machine. this is my first time watching you guys. i have decided maybe my solo trip to the forest is cancelled. all the others i watch show the boondocking in those forests as relaxing beautiful peaceful and safe... subscribed
Deb is for sure a strong woman. We do have a lot of mutual trust and confidence! Videos can show many different sides of a story. We are trying to show the whole story. Thank you for subscribing!
Very Nice Job!
Thanks Rob!
4:12= Looks like Sasquatch was sending you a warning ! Thanks for making this video and putting it on CZcams. Good Vibes 👣
Thanks for watching
I like your adventures. It makrs it seem more like a televised series because you don't talk into the camera like so many people do. Keep on jeep n!
Thanks! We are glad you like it?
FR 192 is closed now. The gravel part is open but the rougher section is closed all the way to the bottom.
Yes, it's been closed for awhile
Road 192 is Old House Gap Road, they closed it off last fall and may never allow vehicles to cross it again, according to the National Forest Ranger I talked to.
I had heard that too. Sad....
New subsciber. I just bought a 2012 wrangler sport that is stock. Looking to get a lift and tires and getting on the trails. Your videos are awesome. I'm definitely digging the overlanding.
Thank you and I'm.sure you will build an awesome rig. Just build it to.fit you. Not what everyone thinks it needs to be.
Awesome video man! Love the set up!
Thanks! Looks like you all had a great trip to Utah!
Coddiwomple Overland yes! We love it out there!
@@roamingwithjosh We are planning a 2-3 week trip out that way next year.
I noticed early on in the video that your Jeep had a different stance. Looks like you made the perfect choice with the new lift and 37's
Thank you! We are very happy with it. We can't say enough good things about Clayton Offroad Suspensions!
Fantastic video. Just what I've been looking for for quite some time. My wife and I want to buy a Jeep to do the same type traveling in New England and along the East Coast, but it's been near impossible to find a couple like you that's traveling on the East Coast and not just out West. My 1st time on your channel,looking forward to seeing where you go next. Subscribed! cheers
Thank you so much for the compliments and subscription! There is nothing like getting out and exploring to relax. We are hoping to get up the coast sometime in the near future.
Good thing you have a ham radio 73s
I've been watching a lot of your videos. You may want to consider a winch dampener/blanket to put on your line when winching. It's designed to take the kinetic energy and slow it down. Could be a life saver.
Thanks
Felisidadez👏🏼
Thank you!
@@CoddiwompleOverland vivo en norte carolina asheville, me gustaria hacer overland contigo
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2nd that motion, really liking this series.
Thank you again!
im very glad i watched this..i just started..got to the big rock in the road. this to me is a terrifying event...reason....i am 68 years old semi handicapped female and was planning boondocking ALONE in that forest and the pisgah in a small s u v. just me and a chihuahua. maybe i should stick to walmart there will be alot more thinking before i attempt to go on a road trip thank you for the wake up lesson
The intent was not to scare people away from doing this type of adventure. It was intended to show a realistic view of what can happen and that you must be prepared, especially if you are alone. We recommend always travel with a second vehicle if possible. If its not possible, be be as prepared as you can. If you are new to overlanding, we would welcome you to make a trip.with us. Walmart isn't anywhere near as fun or scenic as being in the woods!
@@CoddiwompleOverland i appreciate it...dont think its wise for an old woman alone...thank you for the reality check before i wind up bear bait...or worse
Normally we are not alone either. This was actually our first trip in a long time that we only had one vehicle. Normally there is atleast one more vehicle with us. Nancy and Alan met us on day of this trip.
I would think Wal Mart would be more dangerous than the backcountry... Just sayin... Bear spray can be used on humans also.. It is a good idea to have if wandering in bear country... I would hate for your travels to be hindered by "what ifs" I say go see some of the most beautiful remote places, wake up in these places, connect with these places, and most of all enjoy them because they are gods gift to you and I!
@@OverlandGeneration thank you. i will consider it. i REALLY want to see these places i see in videos. as for wandering in bear country..i most likely would not wander far from vehicle. at the moment walk with a walker. as for bear spray..dont have it..YET. but i do have a big can of RAID!!! works on 2 legged as well as 4 legged and winged. pisgah and cherokee..smokies area are my intended targets when the day comes. hope to boondock at least 1 year before i have to go back to sticks n bricks. it will be me and my tiny dog but really leaning toward adding a good german shepherd to the pack = eyes..ears..nose..teeth!!!!! security without worry of batteries or solar. im afraid at my age the "what ifs" become a bit scary when alone. THANK YOU and STAY SAFE
Hi enjoy your channel had a few questions on your rig? Do you have a d30 or d44 front axel, did you re-gear? I was also wondering if you put heavier springs in the rear for the extra weight? The reason I'm asking is that I'm considering moving to 37s on a dana 30 and putting 488 gears in then going to a rhino rack and roof top tent that can sleep 3. However that plus all the other items is a lot of weight on the rear suspension
Thank you for the compliment! We are running a Dana 44 front with 5.13 gears. As far as springs, we went with Clayton Off road's Overland + 3.5 suspension system. It is designed for the extra weight of an overlanding vehicle. Hope.this helps!
Oh man. Was thinking about a trip to this area later this summer/fall....now I can't wait!!!!
It is a great area!
Snatch block to a tree on the left side of the trail and use it to roll the rock off into the woods.
Thanks for watching.
Your in my neighborhood, wish I could have met up with you. We were at Brown Mountain this weekend hiking. How come you didn't send your winch around a tree and pull the rock sideways off the road? Great Videos. Love your channel !
I would love the location on trail 92! Nice Jeep!
Thanks for the compliment! Shoot us a message on Facebook and I will get you the location of FS 192.
Hit us up on the Coddiwomple Overland FB page.
Wow
I'm really liking this series!!! Thank you!! Do you know if there's a printed map for the 500 or the 1000??
Thank you! To my knowledge, there isn't a printed map
Is there a electronic one ? Like a gia overlay or topo
Yes, do a search for smokey mountain 1000 gpx file
New sub here glad I found you guys great vid really enjoyed
We are glad you like the videos! Thanks for subscribing!
its something l never do go walking thru the scrub in shorts. always long pants protect you from scratched and snake bite ect
Thanks for watching
This is lucky u weren't there when the rock came down! But ,this is were carrying a chainsaw to cut down the trees along side the road,also carrying a portable drill,fully charged and a generator to charge it ,along with a long concrete drill bit,at least 15 inch,and a steel tube you can insert in the hole,a pointed bolt pin,and drop in a high powered rifle bullet,(there should be a hole thru the top if the pipe to put a wire thru,which u will prevent the bolt from dropping till u pull it out the pin will drop and set off the bullet,) This might not work,you may have to drop the pin by hand,make sure the pipe is pushed in the whole real good!keep back ,keep bystanders and galkers far away,as this will Crack the rock,reducing it to another smaller peice,repeat until u can clear a path!
Also,in the movie,jaws,circa 1977,they used a shotgun shell,specifically designed to be screwd into the piston head, to bang start the deisel motor,these too would be handy for this purpose,adjust pipe size accordingly! To fit the shotgun shell.
Up in New Brunswick,a youtuber showed this device ,as a new brunswick bang stick,it had a chain and spike welder to it so it wouldn't fly up in the air!
You tube shows the idea I'm talking about!
There was a movie about an angry cop retiring who hijacked a bus cuz he didn't get a fare retirement or similar,his favorite line was"Always be prepared Jack!"
Wow! We will have to check that out.
Ps While bushwacking in your 4x4 or 2x4, how much food, water and warm blankets do you carry ? Or, a 2 way radio or a loggers radio
(Amazon or Alibaba sells1 that can find the logging channels ull find marked on fire service rds here in bc and other provinces,here in British Columbia a prospector is required to have 2 way radio)but, thse are useless if you can't charge them!,contues below note,
(Note,if you are a prospector,don't buy the green etreck one that has A geotrecker program, as it's system,you'll be telling everybody where your claims are and all the kids will be looking to play the game on your claim,I sent etreck a msg saying this is a bad idea,but this unit actually tracks where u walk weras my new yellow etrechas a trip program I havnt tried,but it keeps a log of your rd trip,but some of its program is useless,and you can't input gps way points to find boundaries or your backtrack!!)
if you can't charge them,can't plug them into trees!!!,(I had a new (green etreck) one that had a bad battery, right out of the box,so test them out,leave them off the charger and see how long they stay charged)and depending on there range are absolutely useless if no ones monitoring channel nine,the emergency cb channel.And if u carry a small solar panel or generator,u can recharge your radios,boil water in an electric kettle.which means bringingg one,or a small propane or coleman cook stove and a frying pan ,woods sells a compact cooking camping unit complete with a small frying pan,2 small pots,and and a small kettle for about 50$up here in Canada at Canadian tire..
Yes ,your Startin to haul a few things,but ur not at home,hypothermia can set in faster then ud expect! warm sweaters or jackets or winter coats,sleeping blankets good for minus 10 celcius,it still snows and is cold up at higher elevations.
Then theres your horse,got 2 spares tires,a hydraulic jack?most scissor jacks ,I find are not reliable also carry a couple of pieces of 2x6 and maybe a short peice of 4x4 !I got stuck in a rut in the bush a mile from a rural road in New Brunswick,the wood helped get the jack up near the axle,so I could jam mud and sticks under it to get out!
Scissor jacks tip over and after about 10 uses,the thread ,that actuated the scissor,does strip,I got my tire off n on just in time b4 the screw stripped and the jack came down these are not reliable,so never count on them,but keep them as a backup unit.
Also a 2 and a half foot long length of 2 inch pipe put on your 4 way bar will give u more leverage and power to turn your wheel nuts,if u don't have a portable electric socket gun(wrench).note,most cars come with a tire stick wrench,but it's at an angle,or some kind of compact tire wrench,get a decent 4 way tire wrench,these fit most smaller lug nuts,but if it's a 1 ton dually rig,get the right tool to change your tires, nothing like a flat in the bush you can't change!
My 1 ton required several blocks of wood to reach the axle and I used a 8 ton jack,cuz there's nothing like having enough lift if your packing a heavy load ,a puny hydraulic jack not rated that won't lift your 1 ton or heavier truck is useless!
Remember what Jack says:alwaysbe prepared!!!
Not one forestry officer or rcmp replied to my testing my 2 way radios or anybody else!
my new ones go 48 kilometres or 30 miles,not far enough to reach a major village,town or cop shop,or search n rescue.
Also carry a water filtration unit,drinking water from a beaver pond or other untreated water,will give u the beaver fever!4 days of stomach cramps and diarea!or a trip to the hospital,I was given a shot to relax my bowels after the zebra muscles ate all my food in my stomach, turning a big steak into diarea!
Last but not least,notify someone of your plans,a local police or forest ranger,get a topographical map of the area,if there still snow on the rd your on,turn around and go back the way u came. Carry a shovel and a 4 foot long pry bar,to heav rocks out of the way,your not superman!
Also,logging rds DO NOT LEAD TO CIVLIAZZTION ON THE WAY IN,some just loop thru the bush,some are only wide enough for a big logging truck,some u can't turn around on,to skinny,be prepared "Jack",also Walmart sells a medical bag with bandages a ice pack that is air activated! and some tweezers etc,for 16 bux!
(Note: last winter google had me going in circles in Winipeg,new rd that is a circle going in a circle around the outside of town,it's called a ring road,stupid idea!), and its not always reliable we had a girl use Google map in Northern New Brunswick,it lead her out into the bush logging roads where she ran out of gas,had no food and was there for 2 days before a person came along and helped her,the roads up there just loop in circles out in the bush and back to the mills,(which are gone out of business up there,so there's not much traffic)with some cross cuts,I managed an afternoon and got back on a 1/4 tank of gas,but the next time I tried ,I thot I was on the same logging rd,spent almost a full tank of gas,and a few hours wandering around till I came out miles from where I went in!
Just be aware like in your situation u found the rd blocked on return,there is also a possibility that more rock is ready to come down at that spot ,so be careful and get done as fast as safely possible!
Don't let a day cruzing the back 40,become your worst nightmare,and don't take cars that are not designed to ride higher then 4 to 6 inches off the ground,out in the bush,I call them "pavement queens" only good for the asphalt or paved roads! and city parking lots!
Also I had a dodge 4x4,so I tried to climb a 40 ° slope in 2 wheel drive ,no go,so its necessary to have a 4x4 out in the bush as a 2 wheeler might leave you stranded or stuck!in 4x4 mode it climbed up that slope!
Mitsubishi I think makes a 4x4 thats incredibly good but it's not jacked up,no ground clearance,which is really a necessity in the bush or trails!it's light 3nough to go over early morning snow, but midday the snow becomes soft and impossible for this little car,as well as others.
See Mats towing on CZcams,for all the tourists that think a rented car makes a good 4x4,and get a Toyota or Honda civic stuck in the desert,and often the jack is missing!He gets lots of rescue jobs from ppl that don't think and aren't prepared for offloading!ppl with no experience and no business's using a Honda civic or being in the bush without thinking about what they are doing!
If you don't know the back roads ,my advice is do not go too far in,if your car or truck breaks down,your in trouble,also carry a couple of 5 gallon gas cans,FULL OF GAS OR DEISEL.runing out in the bush can cost you your life!
Critters@When I lived outside Thunder bay ontario,had to walk home in winter ,almost 20 miles with my dog, my knees were frezing up!, a bear hadn't gone into hibernation and was following us for a long time,and then there's cougars and Yukon lynx as big as German shepherds!
You tube has some stories about ppl going down unmarked rds,only to be snowed in and die in the Washington state area,if your not in a 4x4 or just trying to save time getting home,stay on the paved road you came on,sleeping at the curb for a few hours is better then what a family did to try and save time,they ended up on a logging rd,someone cut open the gate, they didn't see it and thot it was a short cut home..(the husband died ,he walked thru snow in summer city shoes with no coat thru the bush,without a compass and a topographical map,they found his body miles from his car,but the family was just a short distance from a small village thru the bush!)
as it snowed then in while waiting for help That won't come till spring logging! 6 months from fall!
So,don't think like a city slicker,always be prepared Jack!Enjoy your adventure,but you never know what may be around the next corner more fun or mayhem.
Regarding strangers, be carefull with them,not everyone is a happy camper,they can become violent or hostile or desire your car in a twikle of an eye! Perhaps having a handgun open and ready in the bush is a good idea,but don't get syched out and suspect every one is bad most, want to help!and check your spare tire for air is it aired up or flat?before you go!
I've made a mistake on that,would've been stuck on the Cassiar highway in Northern bc with bad tires!
Jack says always be prepared!
why not use the tree save as a pivot on a tree and drag th boulder to the side of the road? I would assume that you weren't carrying a cable block.
I was carrying a snatch black and yes that would have certainly worked. We just pulled it back out of the way enough to get by
Where did you enter 192 from? Did you take Edgmont (SR 1514)? And where did you exit 192 in order to get to Brown Mtn OHV?
192 is now closed.
We’re you at Charlie’s creek during Labor Day weekend? Rig looks familiar, I was in a group of about 12 rangers
No, we weren't out that weekend
What navigation app are you using? And does that app have all these trails loaded into it?
We use Gaia. There isn't any apps that just have trails loaded on them. You have to upload them.
I really liked your video. I have an 07 Unlimited with 247K. I need a winch at minimum.
Thank you for the compliment! Those 3.8's seem to go for ever.. That is what is in ours. A winch is definitely a must have, especially if you are alone.
I think we watched your video twice. Did you mention where the gpx files came from for your route. We have Gaia for 2 years I didnt see anything on there.
Gaia is just a mapping app that you can view files on. You have to downlad gpx. files from other sources and then upload them into Gaia. For this trip we generally followed the Smokey Mountain 1000. You can find them if you do a search for "Smokey Mountain 1000 gpx file". I hope this helps and thank you for watching our channel
great video, my 2 cents on the rock,snatch block on the tree pull it off the road
I agree if we were trying to completely clear the road. But we were the only ones in there and we were just moving it enough to get ourselves out.
@@CoddiwompleOverland winch the big one out of the way and clear the smaller ones to make it accessible for others that may not have the equipment. Always leave it better than you found it
It was cleared enough for other vehicles. A stock s10 went past as well were leaving
Those steaks looked really good. Did you eat the whole thing?
Yes, yes we did!
Your videos are very cool and pleasing.
Do you do Flyfishing??
Thank you! No, I don't do any fly fishing.
What are the specs for your tablet? We want to get one but not sure the specs we need to make sure we can run maps and such. Thanks.
We use the Samsung Tab E 32gb. It has its own number so it has data all the time along with GPS. It works great for us!
Cool stuff. Where do you find the maps for these back roads.
Forest service MVUM maps,are a great resource
Hey,what about gold panning,do you carry a gold pan?
We do not but we have e talked about carrying one.
Do you think 37s with sway bars are needed or could you do this on 32s?
You could do this with 32's no problem
FYI - You could've skipped the winch altogether and pulled that rock out of the way with just your tow strap and Jeep.
True. FYI
What maps do you use to find these trails.
MVUM maps from the forest service or on GaiaGPS.
You mention you still HAD THE SWAY BAR CONNECTED can you disconnect it on a jeep? And why?
Yes you can disconnect the front swaybar on a Jeep. It helps with suspension flex and ride comfort while off road.
@@CoddiwompleOverland Well,I saw this later in your video,but thanks for the answer.
Welcome
Do You have lockers on your Jeep?
Yes, we run an Aussie Locker in the rear and an Eating E-locker in the front.
Random boulder - Wile E Coyote is lurking near.
LOL!!!! Yep
I cannot find Forest Service Road 192.. :(
Old house gap road
@@CoddiwompleOverland thanks Bill. You the man.
Your welcome!
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For heavy pulls snatch block back to your Jeep doubles pulling power. Did this to pull a motor home out. Saves possible overtaxing winch or breaking line.
I agree
What app do you use for all the trails on your tablet?
We use Gaia GPS
Thank you so much your videos inspired me to take my jeep out and have fun with the beautiful scenery
That is awesome! We are so glad you are getting out!!
I live over here in Sevierville Tennessee is there any trails I can take my jeep on that is close by.
I don't know if any close. There is an overlanding rally happening next weekend in Cosby. They will be doing guide trail rides from it. Since you are new, this would be a great opportunity for you to go with a group and learn some stuff. It would also show you where some places are that are semi close for you. The name of the event is Smoky Mountain Overland Rally. They have a website and a FB page.
The 100 miles of Daniel Boone. Is it easy
For the most part it is pretty easy. Mountain Springs is not. You will need clearance, tires, recovery equipment and a buddy.
how do u keep ur food cold, do u have a fridge/freezer hooked up?
We had a cooler cooler for a while but kept having to chase ice. We now have a 53qt. Stakol refrigerator from Amazon and it works great!
@@CoddiwompleOverland very cool...was actually talking to a friend of mine about this 2 days ago..curious as to how u have it hooked up if u don't mind sharing?
Don't mind at all. We have it hooked up through a lighter plug that wired up in the back. We only have a single battery system and can run the fridge 2 nights and still be able to start without any issues. If we need more than that, we also have a Jacket 500 that will run it almost another 3 days
@@CoddiwompleOverland sweet...sorry if i'm bugging u and if so just tell me...but if u were to place a 2nd battery in the back is there a way that a small solar panel could be hooked up just to charge the battery for the fridge? i'm not very mechanical or tech savvy...i'm new to all of this and trying to get as much info as i can...i've got the jeep now i just need to get it equipped and get out and do what ur doing...
Yes that is possible. I haven't found a need for a 2nd battery on my setup. I am looking into adding a solar panel kit from Cascadia 4x4 to the hood of my jeep.
Hi, I am a Patreon member of the site. Where can I find a map of the smoky mountain 1000? Would prefer a paper map. Thank you!
You may check their Facebook page at Smoky Mountain 1,000. I'm not sure if they have a paper map. Our travels of the SM 1,000 are pinned at the top of our page.
@@CoddiwompleOverland thanks. When you say your travels are pinned, do you mean the videos, or is there a map somewhere?
We have GPS file of our Smoky Mountain 1,000
Here is our link to all of our routes
route.patreon.com/CoddiwompleOverland?Link&
How about some dynamite? 😂
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