Shaka Zulu vs Julius Caesar. Epic Rap Battles of History
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Shaka Zulu: *makes fun of Caesar for being stabbed by his friends*
Also Shaka Zulu: *gets assassinated by his half brothers*
Krillin: "SENZU BEANS!"
Well, at least not friends.)
@@lastfullast8819
I rather be killed by a friend than my own blood.
Well he wasn't close to his half brother. Watch the movie white troll
@@malamala6787
again i rather be killed by a friend than my own blood.
I was half expecting Caesar to get killed mid-way through the battle only for Augustus to jump in
Augustus deserves his own rap battle.
while it would've been cool caesar is too powerfull to kill mid battle
@Cameron The problem with putting Augustus in a battle is the tall task of finding someone who would actually be a good matchup for him. Some good ideas could be Charlemagne, Justinian, Otto I, or some other famous claimants to the Roman empire, but most of them are from a time where written historical records were somewhat infrequent, so it would be hard to do any deep research into the characters. It's probably part of the reason why you don't see many medieval kings in ERB (the only characters from the period that come to mind are Vlad the Impaler and maybe Ivan the Terrible), though it doesn't help that they're much lesser known than the leaders of Classical Antiquity.
@Cameron yeah but he basically destroyed the Senate's authority :(
@@nivi8846 Augustus vs palpatine.
They basically the same person.
For those who don't know: Julius's ending verse "You can grow my wheat for me after your beaten" isn't a reference to slavery, its a shot at Shaka's pride as he banned the growth of wheat on Zulu's homeland after his mother died
Why is every comment on this video just a repeat of this?
It's a genius level double verse. One part is what you mentioned and the other is that usually, conquered roman provinces were made to cultivate roman wheat.
Did you just spit a bar? That rhymed
it IS a reference to slavery, just not racial-based slavery, but more ethnic one. the romans made slaves of any men they conquered, regardless of whether they were black or white. if it was a man, and this man belonged to a people that got conquered by the romans, even if he was white, he would've still been a roman slave because he was conquered by the romans
It’s definitely slavery too, captured kings and soldiers becoming slaves was a favourite of Rome’
The line "You're fucking with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate" is so badass
ong
Well that's true
Crassus only put down the Spartacus Uprising
Pompey was defeated by Caesar even after his accomplishments
Where as Caesar conquered Gaul, Africa and destroyed the Pompeians at Pharsalus, Thapsus and Munda
Finally after all that he was named Dictator Perpetuo (Dictator for life)
WHAT ABOUT ME POMPEYYY YEAHHHHHHH
@@LegioXXlcorrect me if I’m wrong, didn’t the Senate grant him four Triumphs for those campaigns?
@@reverseshotgun721 Did they have a choice after 90% of Caesar's opponents were dead? (Notably Pompey Magnus, Cato the Younger and Domitius Ahenobarbus)
You're fucking with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate, I'm first of the empire, and last of the of the republicans.
So...badass.
One of, if not THE best, lines in the whole battle. Together with the "First my front lines will drop back and spank you in the chest / Then I'll decimate your horns, you can't outflank the best" part.
Actually, all of Caesar's lines are gold.
u are qeen,littel qeen Boudika im Emperor!alea iacta est!fu celtic!Dictator for life Imp.Caius Iulis Caesar Pontifex Maximus!Pater patriae!SPQR!
Gar96 Right?
Gar96
Can I ask why? not that I don't think it is, I just don't get the reference or know the info necessary to understand it
If Julius Ceasar was pissed off: he'd scream and yell loud as fuck.
If Julius Ceasar was actually mad, he was terrifingly calm.
@@brothinkhecarti69 Seething anger can lead to a calculating type of vengeful hatred. It is terrifyingly dangerous. It's the kind of shit that makes decade-long plots of getting back at others.
🤔 Interesting assessment. 😈
@@BennyLlama39 yes it is haha
so basically Gordon Ramsay
@Leviathan YOU BURNT THE GAULS YOU FUCKING DONKEY, GIVE ME YOUR JACKET AND FUCK OFF TO CARTHAGE
I'm impressed by how evil Peter was able to sound, while still being dignified and impressive.
man didnt have the patience to get mad
I'm impressed by all the lil Lloyds they cloned for this battle! Look at em all, so angry and ready for war 😂
ccc
Scar approves
Lol Yeah, he was pretty Good ;)
Hey, My Christian name is Peter too!
Shaka shot himself in the foot with the “stabbed by your friends” line because he was killed by his own brothers, so it would’ve been a good line if it came from literally anyone else lol. And Caesar won with the “you can grow my wheat for me after you’re beaten” line. Because Shaka banned the growing of wheat during his rule, which ultimately is what led to his death, so that was just a downright filthy haymaker of a bar.
Not to mention, Shakespeare's play literally doesn't end at Caesar's stabbing.
Wheat line being a haymaker... I see what you did there
@@kargaroc386 the line could infer that there's no point in continuing the play after Julius's death, so he's saying the play is worthless.
Idk the story of Zulu. But a brother is not the same as a friend. I know a lot of people who are closer to their friends than their sibilings. So unless Zulu's brothers were also his friends, being betrayed by your friends is more humiliating than being betrayed by your family.
Heheheheheheheh
Haymaker
"You're fucking with most triumphant third of the triumvirate" dude thats fucking fire. You gotta give props for fitting triumvirate into a rap battle.
The stuff these guys do is just wild.
Iswr!! The writers of these should get a Nobel prize or something
It'd be even more impressive if they'd also managed to work in Isandlwana.
@@samsignorelli It would be, though it would also be irrelevent as that battle happened just over 50 years after Shaka died.
@@Neion8 And Shaka lived how many CENTURIES after Julius??
Best Flow: Shaka Zulu
Best Disses: Julius Caesar
Overall Losers: The guys who kidnapped Caesar
Considering they were hunted down and crucified by a guy who negotiated his ransom up to more than double the original amount... yeah.
Agreed
I love you! You were innocent, im leading a free porygon movemont. 😳
So what happens to the guy that threw a grenade at him?(me whistling innocently)
Hotel: Trivago
“Trained on thorns” refers to how Shaka didn’t allow himself or his men to wear shoes/sandals since it slowed them down in battle. And then, so that they’d adapt to it more quickly, he made them walk on thorny/rocky ground.
Who is shaka my foot
I guess it worked against other africans, lol.
That musta hurt
@@M_Chen333 Not as much as this betrayal…
lmao imagen thinking shoes slow you down
I know Caesar killed it, but Zulu's first verse is one of my favorites ERB has ever produced, lol
Yesss, Caesar def won but damn Shaka was so entertaining it made for a fantastic battle.
Also, Shaka had the best line: “Right I’ve heard of your play; tell me, how does it end? Oh yes, you get stabbed many times by your friends.”
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ That was the worst line.
To say the truth am team zulu
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ That's ironic since Shaka was killed by his brothers
Caesar's transition from calm to really angry in this video is honestly one of the most subtle references I've seen. His temper was legendary
I know right its legendary
"HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!!!!"
ERB is so strangely accurate like that, it's perfect. Almost all of their lyrics have some deeper historical meaning. Pure genius at work.
Boom shakalaka
I don’t get it, sorry
I still love how this Caesar is just *dripping* with overconfidence. True to life
I mean is it really “over”confidence if you’re really as good as you think you are?
No no, he wasn't overconfident at all.
He was legit just that good, so he was appropriately confident.
In the end, the only way he could fall was either old age or to be betrayed.
or death, in Caesar's case
Ceasar has literally only lost 2 battles in his life. Both were minor defeats that he turned around.
It’s not overconfidence if you can back it up
Okay, the “strength of a lion” and “can I be a hyena” lines are FREAKING GENIUS. Lions and hyenas are massive enemies - if they see each other it’s pretty much on _sight._
See if I had known that when i saw lion king as a kid, that would of put the movie on another level
@@casualwatcher321 Lion King is hands down a great movie, but it is mad inaccurate. Hyenas are actually better at hunting than lions, so lions will steal from them, not vice versa. Lions do scare off hyenas, but around 4 hyenas is too much for one lion. It would also be Lion Queen, as prides are generally lead by females.
@@BoneHeadedBastardlions also don't talk or sing or dance either... A lot of things are inaccurate about that movie
@@BoneHeadedBastard”prides are led by females”
No they aren’t, the male lions are lazy and hunt less but the female lions pretty much do what they want.
@@bloodfalcon5611 Well yeah, but often times if the males won’t mate the females will gang up and kick them out. So, in a sense, they are in control.
'' I'm first of the empire, and last of the republicans ''
I still think about this line from time to time. Such a badass way to encapsulate Caesar.
That’s weird because I keep thinking about “ Cause I all hear is threats from a brute with no discipline and Im ruling over you like a boot full of my citizens.”
too bad he wasn't actually the first of the empire ... would love to see something with Augustus!
@@oscillatewildly666 Well one could debate that he was the unofficial first emperor, or at least the one that made it possible for the others.
@@oscillatewildly666Augustus and Marc Antony would be funny
@@YoungCrazyKebekoThat's true, he only accepted the title Princeps and not Caesar (Emperor) even if it was his name
"you can grow my wheat for me after you're beaten"
Most Roman line in the history of lines. maybe ever.
Especially since Shaka went crazy and outlawed growing wheat
@@Oskanwhitchfather All just because he mother died
even more Roman than "Carthago delenda est"
@Harrison Cooper what actually happened though regarding the salt??
@Harrison Cooper or something about shaka banning milk which killed a bunch of moms and kids
this is legitimately one of the best depictions of Caesar in all of entertainment 🤯
T Chy yep love it so much!
Did you know him?
James Bradley based on his historical accounts and his imperial reign. That is what he means.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Ok mate
@@Nobody-dm2ol what does this is mean
"I'll pave roads with the bones of your goat herding ass" is such a badass line! 🔥
Possibly the most memorable line of any ERB for me
Shaka's flow was amazing, so energetic and powerful, but Caesar was cold and calculist and his lyrics were absolutely murderous, this is one of the best ERB of all no doubt
It showcases the difference in the military leaders tactics. Shaka was a relentless fighter who swarmed his enemies once battle started, whereas Caesar was a master tactician and his army was incredibly disciplined and the Roman army was know for it's professional tactics and formations. Honestly if the two armies ever met, Caesar would have probably decimated Shaka's army. But nice catch 👍
Yea ceaser had more swagger in this battle but he couldn't ride the beat as well as shaka
@@mynameisinigomontoya8179 i doubt it, since shaka was as great a military inventor as Julius was. He defeated the british many times because of his disciplined soldiers. Let's not forget the horn formation is great for flanking (and remember that the Impis are lightly armored meaning they are maneuvrable)
@@carrotizgud9222 defeating and winning are two different things my friend. Historically shaka would have no chance of going up against legions of armored Romans. Their technology in reference to both equipment and era were obviously different, but the Zulus didn't use firearms. The Romans were very good at adapting. Maybe shaka would've won the first, and maybe the second battle using the same horn techniques. But the romans would have adapted as they've done in every campaign they ever marched in. And you forget that the Romans were part of an empire. They wouldve had the numidian cavalry run through shakas lines and harass the Zulus all the way home. Sorry but the Zulus never had a chance. The British relied on single shot rifles and were abysmal at hand to hand combat during that conflict with the Zulus. The British always had their lines over run. The Zulus would've faced an impenetrable shield wall. The Romans would also have their front line men swap out after a few minutes of battle and have them replaced with a fresh line of ready troops so that the Zulus wouldve been left exhausted while being slaughtered.
@@mynameisinigomontoya8179 but you forget the insane drills the zulu warriors went through - some mentioned in the video are walking barefoot, fighting literal lions. this means they are experts in guerilla warfare. perhaps they might not win on the offensive considering the numerical advantage, however fighting (or defending)in their native land they'd absolutely dominated. Don't forget that impi warriors mainly used spears and ALSO had throwing assegais (spears), meaning they'd kill cavalry fast. As shown in the video they also have the youngest warriors in reserve, meaning they could cover the cavalry flank to an extent. I feel, shaka could adapt as well as Julius could, considering he used the terrain and intense training to his advantage
My favorite part of the battle is how Julius Caesar explains exactly how to beat Shaka's battle strategy in his second verse.
Hannibal beat the importance of dealing with flanking/enveloping maneuvers into Roman memetic culture really damn hard.
@@salvorhardim5014The Romans have a weird habit of holding on to grudges for centuries upon centuries, one Gallic king conquers early rome so they spend centuries eradicating every celt they could find after massively reorganizing their army. The Dacian Falx caused them to redesign their helmets, while Hannibal's double encirclement lead the Romans to devise entirely new tactics and strategies.
@@johnathanblackwell9960 That's what you get from a nation of engineers; Rather than problems they saw room for innovation.
@@CteCrassusIndeed
Julia is cool like that
"Ask my kidnappers if I'm just a shit talker."
This is - for serious - actually one brilliant historical reference.
it's a myth
He was kidnapped by pirates I guess? And He was saved by his army and He had them Pirates Crucified, kinda badass.
@@cjmartinez8318 no, the ransom was paid but he returned with his army and captured the pirates. He then sentenced them to crucifixion but instead he delivered them a swift death some time before their execution
@@thanosofthecommunistdruzhi9107 So, wait, which part is the myth?
@@RelativelyBest all of it, we're not sure if it's even real
“I heard you had poison spit, where was it in this cypher?”
This is an amazing and fiery line/piece of history, Shaka would mix his spit with poison, put it in his mouth, and inject others with it in the real world. As well as that, saying his words weren’t powerful is awesome 😂
I don't know if you have heard of a show called The Deadliest Warrior, where they would pit types of warriors from history against one another and sometimes specific warriors from history. One episode they had Shaka Zulu vs. William Wallace and Shaka used the poison spit during the battle.
@@chrisflaherty8991 I wish that show was on some streaming service.
Except the "cypher" part doesn't make sense. A cypher is a secret message.
@@Dennis-nc3vw Look up "Caesar cypher", it is a cryptographic invention by caesar to code and decode his orders. (By modern standards, it is very primitive, but by the standards of the time having any cryptography is amazing. My guess is that this is a reference to that.
@@Dennis-nc3vw cypher also means a freestyle session in rap, it's a double meaning
“If you cross that equator, you'll head straight into a massacre” was a direct reference to the Battle of Isandlwana in 1879 when the British CROSSED into Zululand and then regiment of over 1,800 Soliders got damn near wiped out by the Zulu Army leaving only roughly 60 of them to escape alive!
any salad can be a Caesar salad if you stab it enough
11/10
GG
Actually, the salad was named after another person, Caesar Cardini.
Andrew Cook
Don't kill the fun.
Andrew Cook it's a play on his name and his fate not a play on fact
When Julius Ceaser says "I heard you rap poison spit" he is referencing to when Shaka would mix saliva with poison to spit on his opponents, blinding them. Just thought I would throw in some facts like I see in the comments lol.
neet. fun fact the last line ceaser says is not a racist slur when rome would defeat there enemy they would not destroy them they would bring them into the roman empire and have them grow food for the empire. because of that lots of places did not fight rome instead surrendering to them so they could join rome.
@@hardwirecars that kind of explained why Cleopatra didn't know to just go be taken by the Romans
Then Shaka's mom died and he outlawed the consumption of milk and the planting of crops and killed hundreds of pregnant women and their husbands before his generals finally killed him to save the entire community.
@@jerch bullshit...
669th like
Ironic how Shaka mentions Julius Caesar being killed by his friends when Shaka was killed by his brothers
Shaka went nuts after his mother die!!!!
I'll bet earlier drafts of this battle had Caesar mention that in his comeback but it got removed for flow and pacing plus "you had this embarrassing thing happen to you TOO" is not the most effective / confident line
I revisited this battle today in memory of my late dad. He loved your channel and especially this battle. He loved history, so he understood a lot of references in this video. When I would watch your videos, he would walk in and sing Zulu’s verses.
Im glad you found a good way to remember him, it's often the smallest moments that we associate with the most once someone isn't there to share them with us anymore. Very sorry for your loss.
@@deadshotdevildoc22 Thanks man. It means a lot
RIP dad. Good fathers are hard to come by.
uBabako Beka jabulile kakulu Maka lalela le ngoma. 😀
@@LostOneOmegayes they are, nowadays you see bad fathers too often. Thank you for your condolences
Peter's acting in this is so on point it makes Hollywood cry. I just love Ceasar's calmness, precise talk and movement, and of course confidence/borderline arrogance.
@0:48
I was thinking the same thing until I saw this movement...
It was perfect except that
I mean it's not really arrogance when you're just telling the truth...
Also, his performance as Oppenheimer.
666th like lets go
He played a brilliant batman too
oh wait
"You're fucking with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate"
In the background
"What about me, Pompey, YEAH-"
hahaha
*Gets promptly beheaded, the corpse of Crassus in the desert in the background*
HAAAH
@@jimbology7617 lol he got reckt by the parthians
@@jimbology7617 his corpse with gold still in his throat
‘Most triumphant third of the triumvirate’ this is such a bar , not only the alliteration and play on words , but also considering the first triumvirate was a grand alliance / coalition of the 3 most powerful and evidently influential individuals in Rome in the time of the Republic. Between them, they ruled Rome with their influence, might and military power: Caesar , Crassus and Pompey.
Crassus was the richest man at the time, owning vast wealth and therefore power, he mustered an army and marched to the far lands to the east of the empire, attempting to defeat the Parthians and conquer the great expanse of Persia, using this victory to cement his power. But the slow moving elite Roman infantry were easy targets for the quick mobile horse archers that completely made up the Parthian forces in the dry desert made of unfavourable terrain. And Crassus along with his son and his legions were ambushed , encircled and crushed by relentless tides of arrows. This left Pompey as the main rival to Caesar, resulting in a civil war and a game of chess between the two inland in Greece. The two genius generals erected fortifications when faced off against one another in a battle to outflank and outmanoeuvre. Pompey did defeat Caesar in the first clash , but Caesar used his military genius to reorganise and reshape his army, and he deployed his legendary 10th legion with other veterans to decisively crush the Great General. Having been defeated by Caesar, Pompey fled to Egypt but was betrayed by an ex Roman soldier and murdered. Thus Caesar outlived and outlasted all his rivals and of course was the ‘most successful third of the triumvirate..’
It was the first triumvirate, not second.
@@InfiniteA1E correct I have edited my comment thanks 🙏
Caesar also ended up celebrating five triumphs in Rome (two of which didn't exactly go as planned)
When normally if you had even one triumph you would've been remembered by everyone as one of Rome's greatest.
@@kargaroc386 and to add, he’d set another record for most foreign kings to march in triumphs. Arsenoe, Vercengetorix, and Jubas son were all paraded through Rome.
Yes. It is a bar. A bar is what it is. What an observation you have made.
The voice quality of Ceasar's last two lines is just... wicked! Pretty creaky/croaky but with crystal clear articulation. It's honestly much more intimidating than him yelling.
"You can grow my wheat for me after you're beaten" GG WP.
So many references in ten words. Mind blown 10/10 Favorite rap battle so far.
I was about to comment on that. Like holy, Julius home savage.
Shaka won with "Oh I heard of your play tell me how does it end? Oh yes you get stabbed many times by your friends"
Ironically, it actually ends with Julius's murderer getting stabbed. Caesar dies in Act 2 (of 5) if memory serves. Which is kind of worse.
+VideoMask93 Shaka ain't got time to be reading all the way to Act 5. He has Impi rushes to lead
"I'm ruling over you like a boot full of my citizens!" Nice reference to Italy.
OMG
lol i just realized italy's shaped like a boot
Damn man, i didn't even notice
Goddamn that was a good line
actually it was describing a revolt somewhere (cant remember) which after he wore human skin sandals
Me playing as Rome with Julius Caesar in Civilization VI. Meet Shaka on the map: Going listen this rap on ERB. We know how this will end right?
Tho I think in Civ 6 Shaka takes the cake for the soundtrack. I’m always happy to see him in my games.
@@Mine4dayzz I like Shaka soundtrack in Civ 5, despite his soundtrack is epic too in Civ 6. Well in fact if I was playing Civ 5 and meet Shaka I wound't dare to cross the equator before Industrial Age, and if he have a frontier with me I would be already constructing a lot of legions and ballistas (exactly like those in the rap, lol) to engage him because he is extremely warlike and the impi are excellent even in medieval era.
I crossed the equator and make conquest of part of Zulu territory already, I needed to stop because of grievance and he made the other civs of the game declaring war to retake one city, so I basically needed to be on a defense campaign and after holding my ground I made peace with him keeping his territory. Well Shaka made a lot of friends I see, it must be the cool music.
Even though Caesar won this, Shaka’s opening line is still Friggin amazing
I love the Conan commit. It's really actually clever.
"Stabbed many times by your friends". Very similar thing happened to Shaka. Killed by his brother and aunt for the throne. The issue with being a solo autocrat is you can't trust anybody.
Rip T not his aunt, his grandmother. Princess Mkubaye.
I think he got killed because he’s gone mad and no longer able to lead his people like he did in his golden days.
Ok edit so he actually got mad, I was right but just adding this, he got mad cause his mother passed away :( he had to be replaced cause he was so hurt by his loss( he ordered for grain not to be planted for a year, for pregnant women be killed and basically he kills people who are not “grieving” enough)
Prefer friend over family lol getting killed by family member doesn't give good vibe..
True, but in Caesar's case he was stabbed by more than 2 people.
“You can grow wheat for me after you’re beaten.”
One of the coldest ending lines in ERB.
I know, what he's saying, but I keep hearing "grow weed". Fellsbadman
Doubly amazing when you realize Shaka supposedly banned the growing of wheat after his mother's passing. So not only will he be beaten into slavery, he will be forced to break the great demand that ushered in his assassination.
Well, the Helvetians had to do the exact same thing. The thing about Caesar was that he avoided senseless destruction where possible and managed to subjugate others very efficiently. Hell of a strategist.
Also he read that off of a script. You can tell because he’s looking down. I have a LITTLE experience in acting and know how hard it can be to remember your lines. Though mine were handed to me shortly before recording.
@@derwolfgaming7775 I'd rather assume this looking around is supposed to be him thinking. ERB would reshoot such a mishap.
I love the kidnapper reference. Basically Ceasar got captured by pirates. He treated them as if they were beneath him joking about how when he was freed he was going to have them killed. Well they demanded 20 Talions to which Ceasar ordered them to raise the ransom. They did, and when he was freed he killed all of them just as he said
You left out the part where the pirates were so impressed by Caesar's personality and tales of war that they basically allowed him to roam free on the ship and instead of just sitting around and waiting for rescue/ransom, Caesar lived and worked the ship alongside the pirates just like the rest of the sailors.
"You talk a lot of shit for a man wearing a diaper."
And like that. It's over. He killed him.
This DLC Trailer for Civ 6 looks sick....
LOL
I thought that this was the
eu5 trailer.
BAHAHA
+cloud senpai Those games take place in the renaissance though
EUIV takes place around 1444 but with mods you can have it start at as far as back as 600 BCE
Meanwhile as they argue Ghandi discovers atomic theory and nukes them both
YESSSSSS
Ddddddddaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnn yyyyyyoooooouuuuu ggggggghhhhhhaaaaaannnnnnndddddddiiiiiiiii
That made my day.
I love you for this
+Hugh Jenas That's the same guy.
Can we mention the fact Julius's first verse seems to slowly grow? Like, his voice goes from relatively monotone to anger and conviction.
He was known for his ill-temper!
The Iwisa, also known as a knobkierrie, is a wooden club used in Southern and Eastern Africa, a strong wooden club topped by a bone crushing knob. It was the Long-Range weapon of Shaka Zulu.
Sounds like a shillelagh
Axis leaders vs Allied leaders
Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito vs Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt.
I really would love to see this!
cynderfan2233 i doubt they will be doing any more Hitler or Stalin raps.
good idea though.
Dominic Griffiths Nein.
Tojo was a general or admiral, Hirohito was the emperor. I shall not unleash angry historynerd fury as of yet.
daniel vazquez Hirohito vs. ???
As they have already done Roosevelt I think, not sure correct me if I am wrong daniel, but it would be a good mix if they have not done Roosevelt.
"I heard you had poison spit, where was it in this cypher?"
Killer opening line.
The best part is that it sets it up as if they were sending messages back and forth which is somehow really funny to me
@@trinity6302 cyphers are events where multiple people rap.
@@WEBTEAM1000 Shaka got a tiny bit of help from his army.
@@WEBTEAM1000 also cyphers was the latin word for an encrypted or secret value, the romans studied arabic maths and found this number that made no sense to them and called a cypher number, later the french after the roman empire felt they studied it and called chiffre as in a space in numbers, when they understand how the arabs used the called it cero(zero)
@@Foxtrop13 Arabs were people of no interest in Caesar's time, though. Arab maths only became important in middle ages.
There was this thing called Caesar's cipher though, supposedly an encryption technique Caesar used at war times.
I like how they acknowledge the other person and themselves being dead, like they've been resurrected purely for the purpose of the rap battle and have decided to just roll with it 😂
Even in now 2022, this is still the absolute best rap battle ever. Great lyrics and epic beats that literally hit like an earthquake on my 2 15s in my truck. Great way to knock rust off the frame lol
2023 here \O/
It is _very_ good but Roosevelt vs. Churchill still exists
How does nicepeter look like literally everyone
Yeah he did a great job as Shaka here.
@@cleothehermetichermeticist8391 💀💀💀
Lmaooo
@Renegade Dragoon r/Whooooooooosh
@Renegade Dragoon I'm genuinely confused, ddi you not understand the joke in the first place along with the Whoosh? Damn, this really be a double r/Whooooosh
"you talk alot of shit for a man wearing a diper"
Soph DIY you talk alot of shit for a man wearing a diaper
*diaper
Said the man in the skirt.
Abe Clabby Angel Kronk: "ROBE!"
Abe Clabby it's a Tunic.
what I love about this channel is that some lines go over my head then I read the comments and get educated ☺
Underrated rap battle, in my opinion. So many great lines, mixed with a killer beat.
I think Caesar won in terms of disses and comebacks, though Shaka did put up a good fight.
Shakas flow was better but yeah he got demolished
You said in terms of disses and comebacks, which makes it sound like there was something else. What else could there have been?
@@Steveman27 flow, syllable count and tone
@Herold III teresa vs freud , william wallace vs washington , roosevelt vs churchill , guy fawkes vs che guevara , jefferson vs douglas
Caesar won and it’s not even close. He literally told him how he would beat him on the battlefield and then told him he’s going to pave roads with his bones and enslave all his people and there’s nothing he could do about it because “you can’t outflank the best”
Is this what denouncing in Civ V is like?
Pretty much 😂
Lel
Yes
+Seth Anderson - Exactly
Yes this is the most historically accurate representation of what denouncing someone is like. 😂
"you're fucking with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate"
underrated, absolutely underrated.
I just understood the “cow skin shield and hide under it” like
Cow skins are called hides
These guys, 6 years later and they don’t stop surprising me
“You can’t outflank the best”
While sieging Alesia, Caesar literally built a wall surrounding his army to prevent them from being flanked by a relief force of Gauls.
Main Gaul force of 75,000 trapped in Alesia, and a force of 250,000 Guals behind Caesar. And the Romans still won.
11: 11 those numbers aren't at all accurate, of course it was still a decisive Roman victory but Rome was known to add a few zeros onto the number of enemies they fought.
@@foolofhearts8126 But you dont know that and neither will I.
@Soller Your foolish no matter what you believe.
@@foolofhearts8126 "those numbers aren't at all accurate" It's a fact but Caesar could not modificate a lot these numbers because Bellum gallicum is wrote whith his Senate's reports. And Caesar had a lot of Senate's "spies" in his own forces (many tribunes who wrote directly to the Senate). So it's pretty sure that he changed number of his opponent but not a very great difference.
Usain Bolt VS Forrest Gump
Forrest Gump vs Patrick
BritishTea F*ck yeah ! :D
BritishTea omg YASSSSSS
BritishTea Usain Bolt vs Oscar Pistorius
BritishTea Usain Bolt vs MICHAEL PHELPS! (Fastest runner in the world vs Fastest swimmer in the world)
Ceaser won but zulu had some great flow, one of the overall best rap battles on the channel
"If you battle Shaka, this will happen to you!" i love that line
zulu started strong, but Caesar definitely won.
+John Nijmeijer It's usually the second guy who wins. And I am surprised that this channel let the White guy win.
im not
John Nijmeijer Would you say that the Obama Romney battle was biased against Romney?
+Ιωάννης Λέπουρας In the case of battles where a third or even fourth person comes in it's likely to be them who have the better raps.
+James Cantwell Yeah, my point is that it's usually the last guy unless he is added as a joke.
"you're f***ing with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate"
Epic.
Ladylubber whats triumvirate?
@@riisntsryc3771 when Caesar began his climb to power, he was part of the alliance with two other influential people in the Roman Republic. Thus three of them, Gaius Julius Caesar himself, Marcus Licinius Crassus, and Gnaeus Pompey formed a Triumvirate. In the end, Caesar left Crassus and Pompey to intrigue and clash in Rome, whilst he himself conquered Gauls and took all the wealth and fame.
Crassus tried to do Caesar-thing and conquer Parthia (modern-day Syria, which was another superpower at the moment), but died in the process, leaving only Caesar and Pompey. The rest is history (and Civil War).
no
Well yes. Epic is in the title of the series, so you're not wrong
Nice
Julius Caesar: “First my front lines will drop back and spank you in the chest.”
Shaka Zulu: *Touches his chest*
😂
Honestly this is one of the deepest/best written rap battles
"I keep my whole crew steady!"
This is a reference to the Battle of Pharsalus. Caesar's veteran forces defeated Pompey's. Normally forces charged at each other and threw their pila. However, Pompey ordered his men to stand still so Caesar's would tire themselves by running much further and smashing into a wall of shields. Realising this, Caesar's men stopped the charge, caught their breath and then threw their spears and engaged at a walk.
Caesar thought Pompey's decision not to charge ended any chance of winning the battle (which Caesar was massively outnumbered in) because all Caesar had to do was get his men to hold steady and then engage on their own terms. Which they did.
Imagine walking at the enemy army.
@@piotr4198 Haha, yeah, would have been really weird. I wonder what the legionaries at the front did as they hit shields? Would have also been weird being the army standing still while the enemy just casually strolls up in their own time.
@@HorizonOfHope It would almost make you want to the call the whole thing off, walking must give you a lot of time for consideration.
@@piotr4198 I mean if you want to stay in formation you kind of have to, imagine charging as a greek phalanx xD
It may also be a reference towards the 4 commands to range units:
Prepare
Aim
Fire
Hold/Steady
I think you understand the first 3, and the last one was normally used after the second to prolong the wait before firing, even more fitting here as he is commanding his ballista.
Civ VI's diplomacy looks very...something.
You just made my day.
wow
OMG YESSSSS
made my day XD
KrimzonFlygon1 Both aren't in Civ VI though. Cx
I know right? There's 2 kinds of denouncing now!
Normal denouncing, and rap battle!
This battle was over when Julius Caesar said his first line
Complete obliteraion with 1 line
I learned more history in ERB and the comment section than in all of my 4 years in Highschool
Same lol
"You get stabbed many times from your men!"
Big talk coming from someone murdered by his own brothers.
zak klinger oh shit I didn't even think of that, your right!
*friends
also, it's really a fail on Caesers part that he didn't exploit that
Brutus is widly belived to actually have been Caeser's Son
zak klinger indeed 😂👍
That’s a very common way of death because they want his empire
How do you cut the Roman Empire in half? Use Caesars.
xD
My life is completed
Daniel Bryan
King Alaric the First.
+Scum of CZcams your comment is self referential, there were a number of geopolitical and socioeconomic reasons
Julius Caesar is the most terrifying rapper of ERB history
I want a rap between mr. Rogers, J. Robert Oppenheimer and him
@@rcd20yearsago48 Gordon Ramsay,Clint Eastwood & Genghis Khan should be included too
What about Mr. Rodger?
What about Walt Disney?
updated:actually we do need more
Pennywise
The Joker
& Freddy Krueger
“You should take your cow skin shield and hide under it” is such a subtle line
On a side note Shaka Zulu was assassinated by his own brother
not quite his brother but rather brother from another mother
Same father though Issaac
isaac debaila still worse than gettin killed than your friends!
+SHREKS DAUGHTER One of Caesar killers was Brutus, his (maybe) son. Caesar had..erm..affair with Brutus´s mother for years (before and after B. birth). Propably worse getting killed by your son than hlaf-brother.
+WickedTriom CZ Brutus is his adopted son because he sees a lot of potential in brutus thats why ceasar accepted him in his family but it backfired and he was betrayed by a person that he treats like a true son which is sad :( (sori 4 my bad english)
"You can't outflank the best!"
Hannibal would like to have a word with you.
+Aaron Hazelton so clever
+Aaron Hazelton I think my favorite iteration of that whole thing was in some old documentary or something. The guy was like, "so he just went around, with GODDAMN ELEPHANTS."
+Eli Parker I was thinking of the Battle of Cannae, where Hannibal took a fight against the numerically superior Romans on flat terrain and turned it into an almost-embarrassing landslide for Carthage (Rome might've invented the road, but it was Hannibal that invented the curbstomp) when typing that, but I suppose outflanking an entire country is equally impressive.
+Aaron Hazelton I mean, Rome was fucking with the Germans (Yes, I know, Germanic Tribes, but, basically, the Germans) at that point. Can you really blame them?
+Aaron Hazelton Problem is Cannae was well before the time of Caesar, who was after (and a result of) the implementation of the Reforms of Marius. At this point, the Roman army was so much faster, modular, and disciplined that I doubt even Hannibal (with an upgraded and time appropriate army) could win. It also doesn't hurt that Caesar was over 150 years past when Fabius Cunctator created the "Fabian strategy" particularly to counter Hannibal's brilliance, and when Scipio Africanus outright defeated Hannibal despite him having superior numbers and a full group of 80 or so war elephants at the battle of Zama. Zama was also very much the reverse of Cannae (and Trebia before that) because the Roman losses were exceptionally small while Hannibal's were massive, at almost complete annihilation. Hannibal was a brilliant commander with a gorgeous mind, and many would say his victories were a major force that drove Rome to become the best, but much like Shaka he wouldn't stand a chance against Caeser.
Rome baby! You can't outflank the best. ;)
No one mention Carrhae...or the Teutoburg Forest.... -_-
After watching every battle, I keep coming back to this as the best of them all
Agreed 100% best battle
This beat goes so hard! Also, I love how the logo plays out the Zulu vs Roman legion battle described in the final verse.
J R.R. Tolkien vs George R.R. Martin
Maxime Filion Tolkien is a god, Martin's a man, the chub would be crushed by the father of fantasy
Maxime Filion Has been suggested thousands of times before, but they don't want to do it for some reason.
Maxime Filion J. R. R. Tolkien vs J. K. Rowling?
Teun Buwalda Or George RR Martin vs JK Rowling if they're worried about offending?
Attnel Ofsurds I don't think they're worried about offending, do you not remember some of Hitlers lines in his battles? XD Not wanting to offend has never been on the cards XD
As an African American, I found Caesar's last line the game ender. They were neck and neck till Caesar pulled out that bad boy. It was dope, it was historically accurate, and just brutally awesome. Lol
As person who knows enough about the two to get nearly every reference, my jaw was laying on the floor for a while after I heard that one. Absolutely scorched.
+ShadowKosmos to be fair tho, as a white dude i thought that Zulus delivery was waaaay more on point, like each syllable hit with wheight, whereas ceasar was very actor-ish. Additionally, Shaka's first few bars on the second verse hit just as hard as ceasars last, but unfortunately it doesnt have as much force behind it because the rest of his second verse wasnt AS lethal.
"As an African American", "as a white dude"... is that even relevant for something related to this battle?
i mean, yes and no. Race is kindof irrelevant in a more literal sense but when dealing with art sometimes your background can shine some light on why you believe what you do. In the cas eof this discussion, its a "battle" between generals that were most likely very racist, so it seems cathartic to me to have people of the opposite race showing respect to the representatives of eachothers race. current year and all.
Tyler Durden I guess. It's still being irrelevant to me.
I love how julius has hands at his back like a general
"Ask my kidnappers if I'm just a shit talker
Doc J dunk on ya like
'Boom Shaka-laka" is absolutely filthy. That wins it right there.
For those who don't know about Julius's kidnapping: a bunch of pirates got ahold of him and demanded 20 talents of silver as ransom. Julius told them to demand 50 instead, and told the Pirates that he would have them crucified eventually. The Pirates thought he was joking. After the ransom was paid, Julius raised a navy, caught his kidnappers, and had all of them crucified. So no, Julius isn't just a shit talker ;)
+B DeWit Or so says the legend. A powerful ruler such as him could've easily fabricated such a tale.
Still, points for educating people about things!
He did admire their ballsy move of kidnapping him. When they caught the pirates and crucified them, he ordered his men to have em killed right away instead of suffering
Awesome Alan4ever
It's said that Julius sort of befriended his kidnappers, joined them in games and for meals and all that. He frequently joked with them, which may be why the kidnappers laughed at his threats of crucifixion.
After capturing the pirates and setting up their crucifixion, he had their throats slit before completing the crucifixion. Of course they suffered, of course it was brutal, but in that time having your throat slit was considered a merciful execution. Especially if you are faced with the choice of dying over the course of a day or longer with simple crucifixion... you'd probably take the throat slitting and die in a matter of minutes. Still, Julius wasn't just a shit talker- his idea of mercy towards people he befriended is a slightly less horrific execution!
Yet,he still got killed by his friends.
Caio Giulio Cesare, such a badass...
These guys write better raps than like 90% of today's rappers XD
+Vash Zwingli Well, to their defense, gangsta wannabes are not backed by Wikipedia..
It's easier to rap with a specific purpose and diss a specific person than create meaning in lyrics from nothing. Not to take anything away from ERB, but they have it a lot easier in terms of writing lyrics
I fucking hate rap but damn I love epic rap battles of history
+official pay back So true.
+Antony Di Placido then diss a celebrity or get into a rap battle or just talk about serious shit and it is easy
Considering Caesar got entirely surrounded at the Battle of Alesia and still won, I doubt your horns are gonna do shit Shaka.
The best ERB, it's just so much fun.
The guy who got killed by his own brothers Vs the guy who got killed his own friend
*adopted son
*half brothers
I doesn't say which ceaser
@@raynarbane2873 yes Caesar means Emperor of Rome, but c'mon they're very clearly talking about julius Caesar. If you want to split hairs, you spelt it wrong.
*"friends"*
Leonardo DiCaprio vs The Oscar
Olive Dorian Thats just mean xD
The oscar won.
Olive Dorian the battle's over before it even begins.
Winner: the oscar
Olive Dorian I cry evrytim
Olive Dorian Or maybe Leonardo DiCaprio vs Matthew McConaughey
the wordplay in this song is some of the best
“ask my kidnappers if im just a shit talker” is such a good reference to make, especially because this is a rap battle
the legend of caesars kidnapping was that he was captured by some pirates who demanded a ransom for his release, but when caesar heard how low of a price they asked for, he asked his KIDNAPPERS to increase it by 110%, claiming that the increase was him being modest. then, for the entire duration of his captivity he carried himself like he was one of the pirates, ate, participated in sports and even told THEM to be quiet so he could sleep, and on one occasion boldly stated he would come back to nail them all on a cross. it was taken as a joke by the pirates, but when he was released, that’s exactly what he did. so this line works so well in the context of a trash talk rap battle
For people who didn't get Caesar's "Oh can I be the hyena ?" Line , it stems from the fact that Shaka was infamous for throwing his enemies and traitors in a house full of wild , mildly starved hyenas , and lock every way of getting out.
Thanks didn't know that
I knew that but i thought it was a reference to the lion king as well cuz of the laughing
I thought because shaka Zulu called him "Chicken Caesar" and Caesars "I'm going to laugh"
@@NoName-ig2jb Shaka said he has the strength of a lion and the speed of a cheetah. Caeser said "Oh can I be hyena?", as that is another predator.
It’s because Hyena’s laugh. It ain’t that deep.
This isn't a rap battle
It's a rap *war*
Carson Ems Ehhhhhhhhhh
Carson Ems more like a....
Massacre
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
Carson Ems rap genocide
Carson Ems leave
A definite top 10 ERB. Great backbeat and sharp writing. As always, a lot of fun and educational.
It’s ironic that Shaka mentioned Caesar getting stabbed by his friends when he was murdered by his own brothers.
"You're fucking with the most triumphant third of the triumvirate." Fire
I cannot express what a huge loss it was to not have a Ceaser VS Alexander the Great battle..
*Caesar
ThePowerExcess Caesar deeply admired Alexander and constantly wanted to be like him, so I don't know how good the rap would have been.
It could be an ironic ERB. Like Adam vs. Eve
That's like Houdini vs Copperfield though. They just act them up.
Hey, we had Pompey. Even better!
Caesar, killed by his friends. Shaka Zulu, killed by his brothers.
Half brothers,as in brother from another mother
Ceasar got killed by his adopted son and good friends. Both are pretty shitty.
@@michaelasuquo2495 Augustus never took part in the murder
Only one of the senates who attacked him were his friend which took a whole hell of convincing to take part the rest were enemies
@@comeslammer9455 And Brutus?
@@michaelasuquo2495 Brutus is who I am referring to
1 min and 40 seconds and they delivered one of the most brutal clashes in ERB history, shaka had really good lines but man... cesar won from the start, the line “you talk a lot of shit for a man wearing a diaper” was enough to make him win the battle.
Also many people in the comments are giving clarifications and info on backstories and references in this battle which is really cool, bless you all.
"The most triumphant third of the triumvirate" is one ERB line that pops up in my head on the regular.
“First my frontlines will drop back and spank you in the chest. Then I’ll decimate your horns, you can’t outflank the best. Let your reserves come at me, my ballista’s cocked and ready.” Shaka’s battle tactic was known as the Bull’s Horn formation, which was comprised of the chest that charged, the horns that flanked, and a rested reserve. This tactic beat the British, and Ceaser just said how he’d beat it. Well played.
Yea he's just reacting to this 1:08 , Shaka explains how he will attack and Caeser explains how he will reppel
Underated
This tactic beat British *once*. After Isanwalda, British looked at their defeat, said "Right, you want war?" and proceeded to rolfstomp over the Zulu lands. First invasion of Zulu was done in hafl-assed manner because nobody believed they would be a threat, and command refused to believe that their frontlined had been caugh in flanking maneuver.
In the battle of Ulundi, British second army decisively crushed Zulu army, crippling it beyond recovery and marching to the capitol. Brittish defeat at Isanwalda was largely British arrogance.
@@Mandemon1990 My point still stands, the Bull's horn formation swept the Zulu to Empire and stopped the British. The number of victories doesn't matter, just that one occurred.
@@maxfieldjoyner5244 Sure... by that logic human wave tactics are awesome. After all, they won some battles...
Ceaser definitely won but holy shit Shaka was good and I love the sound of his voice
same
He had by far the better rhythm and flow. :p
Caesar*
Too bad Zulus don't even sound remotely like that though. But still was awesome
+Mr Strike Freedom
How did you stumble across this information?
“ oh yes I heard of your play tell me. How does it end ? Oh yea you get stabbed many times by your friends “an amazing rebuttal
Not really considering Shaka got killed by his own brother
"You can grow me wheat for me after you're beaten." Probably one of the most brutal Peter lines along with "As hard as the wood that Oak gave your mother", "You put a gun in your mouth and fired up!", and "Anyone who believes Thanos did nothing wrong crap has obviously never heard you rap, oh snap!"