Road Tripping the 2023 Toyota Supra 6-Speed Manual - What's it Like?
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2023
- @TheTopher and I took a trip down to Hocking Hills, OH for a few days. This Supra came along for the ride, and was quite an impressive grand tourer.
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This car probably won't inspire the 2JZ devotees of the MKIV, but it'll do fine in the history books. Whiners be damned, it's a good collab between BMW and Toyota. As an MKIV fan, I'd like one.
Nothing will EVER satisfy the MKIV 2jz fanboys. They get triggered at the idea of a MKV doing well. All I gotta say is Papadakis Racing team has won back to back Formula Drift championships on the A90 platform and the B58. They could have chosen the 2jz to build their car on, but they didn't. As Papadakis says, times move on and he wanted the challenge of building up the B58 in the Supra.
They 2JZ fanboys are mainly kids anyways
2jz mk4 fanboys are mostly kids that know jackshit about cars
If this was an actual Toyota us 2jz guys would give it a chance. Real car enthusiasts love the mk4 and understand that it is an icon. The mk5 is not. Plain and simple. And it's younger crowds that like this thing.
@@hondaman8648 "Real car enthusiasts"? LoL I grew up with the MKIV when nobody wanted to buy them and Toyota eventually stopped selling them because of poor sales (fact). Now suddenly they are legendary? I would rather buy a Porsche than paying $80,000+ for a high mileage used MKIV.
Best thing I did to my 2023 A91 6MT was get bimmercode to remove the fake engine noise. I ended up buying a full catback exhaust and now I can finally enjoy it. The fake engine noise got annoying so fast.
No option to turn it off from the infotainment system?
@@v8_sami nope, you need bimmercode
Potentially picking up my Supra 3.0 premium manual in a week or so, been talking with TheTopher about different manual vehicle options, and hes helped me reach that the Supra is pretty much everything I want in a vehicle at the moment. Very excited!
Enjoy the ride!
Congrats
i've loved driving every second of mine! The AT supra got boring fast. MT is just so much more engaging
Mind telling us what are ur other options for manual and why is Supra ur priority over others?
@@471471174 I was between the new M2, RS3 and the Supra. I want a manual vehicle because I enjoy the driving experience of it. Heard the MT on the new M2 was no very good, and obviously the RS3 doesn't come in manual, but it's a great car. I had been searching for a manual supra forever and finally found one at MSRP so it was impossible to pass up. Should be arriving Friday
I work for a Toyota Dealer, and we got a red manual Supra in. Can't wait to drive it to the gas station, even if it's only about 150m away, lol.
All of ours got sold out to the mechanics or top sales men, only GR corolla are on the lot.
I just preordered my 3.0 premium Supra a month ago and was quoted a year turnaround. Watching your video really helps me affirm my suspicions about using the supra as a daily and fun car especially on road trips. Great video!
That blue is beautiful
I believe it is the same as BMW's Portimao Blue Metallic. My wife's 330i is Portimao Blue, and I could totally see it working on the Supra. It gets a lot of compliments from friends and randoms alike.
I am an older person who remembers both automatic and manual transmission cars over the years. I even remember the 3 speed column shift from many years ago. It is good to see that for driving enthusiasts that want a manual transmission, there are still a few manual transmission cars out there. However manual transmissions are becoming rare, but they have not gone extinct.
car is better in auto the manual in bmws are very very weird
well it isn't actually@@KingDiamondBones
ur a kid u dont know anything i've driven both the manual sucks in bmws@@RotaryPoweredRX
Love the vids! Keep it up
There's a reason why Car and Driver drives all the way from Michigan to test exotics there! Great way to spend a weekend, especially living a couple hours away.
The video we didn't know we needed!
Radar cruise control, lane keep assist and heads up display are available with the premium package
Supra has always been my dream car. I was 2nd on waitlist, my dream was about to become reality. But crazy me, I backed out and got deposit back. I ended up with a 2023 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 (6 speed) in python green. Absolutely no regret, especially when you have the mid engine literally behind the driver seat singing to you.
Scammer
Definitely a better buy
Way better buy, you did the right option.
I’d trade u my 2021 3.0 in red for it
@@bman1668 Haha, I already have a 1992 Civic Hatch w/ rebuilt GSR motor & typical bolt-ons. So, I don't need another proj car to mod...since Supra engineers seemed to have designed the MK-Vs expecting consumers to be modding the hell out of it via aftermarket (stock MK-V seems lacking, even my wife thinks the exhaust tone was lame). In all seriousness, I can't bash too much on the Supras, I'm still a fan of all its generations.
The biggest difference for me between Supra 3.0 vs 718 4.0 is the engine tones, especially inside the cabin. What an experience in the 718, plus naturally aspirated. BUT I did pay A LOT more for all that (impractical for the majority). Then the hood...I feel the Supra's hood is just so long & bulky to look at both from outside and inside the cabin -- that was a turn off and the discerning factor for me since I do track days. I don't know how much of that affects the nimbleness of the car compared to the robust agility of the 718. Not much difference on curb weight: Supra at 3,400 lb vs 718 at 3,166 lb.
I love it. Seems like it's a little more livable on a long trip than I expected! I find the idea of Supra so tempting... though I am not sure if I am willing to give up having four doors or not.
Just do it brotha. I use my Supra as a daily and it is very comfortable and practical
How often are you driving 3 people? A lot of the time people are obsessed with practicality when they don’t really need it.
@@HaloDude557 Even so, my buddy has a wife and kid (9 years old, already 5’7). He has the Supra and his wife has an old Matrix. They primarily use the Supra since it’s a nicer place to be. He takes the kid to school and grocery gets with no issue
@@Cal-El well he clearly doesn't need the backseats if he's not taking the whole family out in the Matrix often. People will say they need a full sedan and drive their friends like twice a year. Or they will say they need a truck to move furniture but only use it once to buy a couch in 5 years. This whole obsession with practicality is why the road is fulled with SUVs and trucks for literally no reason.
@@HaloDude557 semi-regular, but at the same time, my wife's car is a four-door, too...
As an M340i owner I would probably like it a lot, especially with the manual. Now if Toyota would just make them more readily available to buy!
Is this little topher!? Subscribed im glad you guys are able to encourage/work with each other for these videos.
i like your videos a lot dude, they're pretty cozy
You're 100% right to call out the interior space. At 6'4", I sadly don't fit - at least not if I want to preserve my right leg. Beautiful car, but the interior is simply too small with no adjustments for height. And I would absolutely love the manual. It sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing the positive experience!
Gr 86 better for yhat reason
@@Averyverse or M2 I assume
Can't wait to get my Supra from my dealership, just patiently waiting for it. Wish Toyota let you actually order cars again, instead of dealerships getting the luck of the draw on what cars they get
hawking hills is awesome, Love going out to see everything including wines
Can’t wait to watch this. Been on a waiting list for a manual Supra for awhile.
What are the current wait times like?
@@mmiu100 I've been #2 on the wait list for a '23 manual since November and I'm still #2 on the waitlist. My dealership has gotten 1 supra since November and it was an automatic. And I'm in a major US city at a big dealership.
@@mmiu100 I think there are 6 people in front of me and they told me the wait time is about 6+ months but that's fine with me. Gives me more time to save up
@@PhoenixKing567 is it guaranteed allocation?
@@mmiu100 I do believe so because a car does get assigned to you once it's your turn and all that
Does the manual premium have adaptive cruise control like the AT? Also how is the HUD in the manual premium is it like the M series in sport mode. I drove an M series with the hud in sport mode and it was huge and pretty awesome how video game like it was. I haven’t heard anyone discuss these features?
I am having so much fun watching you having so much fun driving this fun car
Wow nice road. I didn't know winding roads like that exist in the Midwest or does this qualify as the Northeast? The houses are a bit different from the ones off the winding roads in Malibu.
i love the interior
Great video. I noticed only something coming out of the left pipe when you did the cold start. I would think both pipes would have gasses coming out. I noticed the same thing when I test drove one. Is this normal?
Ooohhhhh nice I didn't know Hocking Hills had great driving roads. I lived in Southwest PA (Pittsburgh region), so I am very close to the OH and WV boarders. Hocking Hills is even closer to me than you guys in MI. I also didn't know Car and Driver tested there. Saw another comment about that, and did a quick Google Search to confirm.
Ohio also apparently has its own 'Tail of the Dragon' on state route 536. It seems to be popular with motorcycle riders, but you can find some cars running the route as well here on CZcams. I need to make the trip for that too! It's of course not on par with the real Tail, but its much closer for us in the Ohio/midwest region.
As someone who goes to Hocking area once or twice a year, roads are awesome. Having my GT86 through there is a blast, so the Supra would just make it even better. Definitely worth the drive
I drove a automatic from NYC to Baltimore before I sold it. it was pretty good on a 200 mile plus trip
That house in the beginning is absolutey stunning. Something like that is a dream place for me
Really ❤ the shot at 1:20 The contrast of the gorgeous blue Supra set in natural wilderness with light on the horizon is fabulous 👏👏👏
Beautiful. Seriously.
I’ll give this new engine a chance especially since it’s now 6 speed stick ! .. and this coming from a Supra fan as my first ever road car I bought at 14 was an 1987 Toyota Supra turbo targa manual r154 trans .. before 16 I was pushing 580 thru a mildly built 7mgte and that car was undefeated in Philadelphia on the street races around 07 nothing short of a drag car had anything for it until I spun a rod bearing racing a red ams built evo8 way past the 1/4 lol I stayed in 4th and over rev’d the hell outta my car to win lol I wasn’t letting off first lol
How do both of these cars drive in terms of handling, steering and brake feel?
what part of the hocking hill is this bc i live in that area 😁😁
Man that's my dream spec supra
I think at 7:26 its the same bridge that its known to be haunted😂 i think i saw a video from twin paranormal on this same bridge!!! I swear it has to be! Im hoping for someone else to see it too!!
Were you able to relax on your getaway which you ended up working anyway?
Does it make a good sound though? Did you turn off the pump in audio? I'd never buy a car with it
AND a new type r in the background?? Topher a G 😎
Any info on the fuel economy on the highway?
I'm not good at heel toe yet either. But we'll get there lol.
#SaveTheManuals
Fun fact, the 3.0MT Supra has iManual which automatically revs to match your selected gear on a downshift. I'm also terrible at heel toe but even in sport mode I leave iManual on and the car makes me sound like I'm a pro!
I went to college at Ohio University which is down the road from there. Amazing roads and sights. I thought Ohio was all ugly too
How did you get one with a black on black interior ?
As a MK4 enthusiast, I find this modern take on the Supra to be really good, and definitely better than what I expected, and from a tuning standpoint, it’s just as capable as the MK4, to a certain degree of course, but still it’s not as bad as people think, I also had the pleasure of driving one recently, and I can tell you stock for stock (or even modified) it’s a better drive for sure 👌🏽
me loking inside the tunk spotting the Krogger bag! Krogger lets goooo!
What kind of shoes were those in the trunk?
I’m from ohio I love it stayed in wv for 10yrs def beautiful sites for a car like this
I am so excited to get my new Supra. Should take delivery before the 31st. Wheeeeeeeeee
they finally got it right
woa woa🥰
What’s the deal no launch control in the manual Supra?
fyi auto Supra has driver assistance package. Which includes adaptive cruise, lane keep, and collision warning.
man this video turned out to be a touge run instead and it's enjoyable to watch.
Vacations with TheTopher be like...
i will own this car soon iam working so hard to own this in my country .a supra costs 2x the orginal price due to import and tax but still i will buy this car ❤ i love supra and gtr
Hi, I was actually looking at the 2023 GR Supra 3.0 MT. I was just thinking if I should keep my E90 328i 2011 (n52) as a daily driver or upgrade to a Supra. So far, my E90 328i has been a absolute tank of a daily driver. Plus the Supra does cost a pretty penny! :)
we don’t need anything new but if it’s something we enjoy and love there’s no reason to shy away from spending on something u love and will bring joy.
@@ghoupd5119 You are absolutely correct! 😁
East/South Ohio is part of Appalachia country, it’s great! Western/Central Ohio is the really boring part
I used to hate on Toyota for this gen Supra but now I don't care anymore. I will never afford one anyway 😅
Excellent car! Great video, thanks 🙏!
Would you consider this a car thats easy to drive? Especially with all that power
I bet crime is low there, in that “SMALL TOWN 😃🇺🇸”…
I’ve been tempted to sell my 2014 Toyota FRS to pick up a A90 Supra MT. Despite not having a true Japanese engine, the B58 is such a good engine. Even tempted for a m340i if I l wanted a a four door. My goal is a A90 MT and 4th gen Tacoma if they do something great on it.
Not Japanese but toyota had influence on the engine which is good for me.
Keep the FRS.
It's just a Toyota M2. Considering the new one M2 like 3800 lbs there's more reason to buy this now though
I would keep the frs for sure.
gen 2 86/brz, perhaps?
Is insane that Toyota put a nicer steering wheel in their work trucks than in its sport cars 😮
agree. the round air bag is so out of place
This car has really grown on me since its debut.
I'm sure it is a fantastic drive...not faultless, but still fantastic. one thing I wish Toyota would do is SHRINK the air bag cover on the steering wheel. why does it have to be/look so big...and round??? Toyota, please redesign the steering wheel.
Is this mk5?
The thing that stuck out to me most from this POV vid is an obvious difference in the interiors of Mkiv and Mkv. In MKIVs jetfighter cockpit type interior is so cool. There is no trace of that design aesthetic/heritage in this mkv interior which looks very generic.
Only wish it had convertible option too
How's the wind buffeting? I've heard it's really bad in the Supra to the point it makes driving with the windows down useless. Is this true??
Yea as Ricky said it really isn’t terrible but definitely should buy a wind visor for it to completely eliminate it
Good to learn it's been exaggerated. Love the Supra since my 1st car, MK3 Turbo. Miss that car!
It's quite bad at highway speeds. Huge air pressure swings.
However, the car comes with AC.
For cruising at 30mph it's fine, not sure about 40.
I wish le us has a manual r c
Idk what people were expecting with how times have changed. I’ve see. Renders of other models I’d rather have had. But, I think this is still an amazing car. I do like BMW as well, just not their reliability. But if anyone knows Toyota. They were in BMW left and right about durability off all the parts they used with this car. I’ve seen nothing but greet reviews about this car. 🍻
Ohio be Ohio. Check out the Ledges in Grand Ledge MI if you haven’t already. Basically the only place in the LP with sharp cliffs
Bro you need Ppf on it! I just got mine right after I bought it and I’ll tell you! It’s worth it.
It’s not his
Wish I could afford one 😢
It should’ve been released with a manual from the beginning… why they didn’t do it is beyond me
Wish Forza would also add the 23 manual Supra and not just the MK5 2020 version
I would like that but people would probably complain
8:10 SQUIRREL
Southeastern Ohio is part of Appalachia, so it is much different than the rest of the state.
8:05 squirrel
Someone saw another Civic, someone saw a squirrel :)
"an shifter"
he did the clarkson adenoids voice at 4:57 too haha
Supra plate saying GET STI
hmm
fair enough
XD
Are u guys brothers ya sound just alike😂?
topher cant lock a door
Sounds like every BMW with B58 engine
What's different in this channel than the other one
Its his little brother
Where's the Supra?
I still don’t understand why BMW gave that old start sound from E9X era…
There are two motors in the Supra B58 and B58 TU1 335 HP vs 382 HP depends on the year. There's no BMW with a B58 and manual transmission afaik. There are rocks fucking your whole car up vinyl wrap it at least
There aren’t anymore in production iirc, but I had a manual M240i. there were earlier year M340i 4 doors with a manual+B58 combo as well.
It's also market dependent. Some cars use the 2019 engine, the EU in particular due to emissions.
They're rated by whp
'pretty niply out' - classic Christmas Vacation line
I want a b58 in a 6 speed but i dont want the supra 😅
Last Gen M240i or M340i?
Not a fan of that steering wheel
Wtf it has bmw beep sound?
But the Topher didn’t drive…..darn
Not the same level as the mkiv just because of the engine which is not home made
Jeremy Clarkson an joke reference? 😏 😉 3:05
and 4:55 where clarkson pokes at people with adenoids 😆
Since when its a sports car having BMW DNA a bad thing?!
I don't mind the BMW collab, but gosh they could have removed the annoying BMW chime
just wish this car wasn't 60k smh way better options for that price
Like what? I’ve seen multiple people say this but are you talking new $60k cars that are better than the Supra?
Not saying you’re wrong, just curious.
Like what? The 2023 M2?? Of course the new M2 is faster but where I live I can't find one without a markup so I would have been paying $68,000-$75,000 optioned out. The Supra is a lot of fun even the automatic. I have a 2023 A91 6MT and I'm sure I'd also have a lot of fun in an automatic with the paddles. Amazing 2 seater platform.
@@Barbwire710 used m3/m4 f8X are sitting below 50k if you're lucky you can get some with pretty low miles. Not to mention the f80 platform is pretty simple to tune and good track oreitnated car. I guess if you're buying new than 60k is the bench point for sports car but still in my opinion its just not worth it.
@@chrisginoc sheesh, you got the A91 MT? What a luck
@@shootdices I like your idea of the F8X platform used. Maybe a quick crank hub replacement on the S55 and you're solid. I've seen a lot of guys on here easily tune their F8X platforms.
The Japanese drift kings like Tsuchiya and his race driving friends all recommend the 4 cylinder engine. It’s 200 pounds lighter over the front wheels and it’s not hard to get decent power from that engine
Rad car... and one of the ugliest steering wheels on sale today.
Yeah very bland for a supra
Allow me to introduce you to the C8 Corvette's steering wheel.
Toyota Z4 lol