Pistols for Royalty: the Mannlicher 1900 Standard and Magnificently Engraved
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The model 1900 was a transitional pattern of Mannlicher pistol, intended to be an improvement over the somewhat clumsy and underpowered Mannlicher 1896. Only about 250 of them were made, with an eye towards military contracts (which they were unable to secure). The 1900 pattern has a large manual thumb safety on the left side, and requires a screwdriver for disassembly. The 1901 pattern would improve these features by replace the disassembly screw with a spring-loaded lever and moving the safety to the rear of the slide. However, Mannlicher had several Model 1900 pistols magnificently engraved and presented to European royalty in his efforts to win military adoption of the design. Today, we have the examples presented to Sultan Abdul Hamid II of the Ottoman Empire and Wilhelm II of the German Empire, as well as one slightly lesser example given to one of Abdul Hamid's adjutants.
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Just casually waving around Kaiser Wilhelm II’s pistol. No big deal.... move along
Understandable. Have a great day.
Hi, the Emperor was famous for collecting guns and weapons in general.... so it was basicly only one of his guns and not his only "one". Greetings from germany.
"Your Majesty, please accept this beautiful engraved gun which is DEFINITELY NOT A BRIBE"
"Oh, uh, thanks? I'm not really that into guns but-"
"But I can put you down for an initial order of 10,000 and see where things go from there? Sure thing buddy!"
Servant! Take this beautiful engraved gun which is definetely not a bribe and put it into my vast collection of engraved guns given to me by other manufacturs who were definetely not bribes as well.
Id take a pistol thats fed by stripper clips. Pretty fancy eh.
Back then bribes were just seen as an innocuous business practice like "networking" is now.
That fireplace has become synonymous with early semi auto pistols,if you do a book about the topic that fireplace has to be the cover photo
With some of the pistols displayed on the mantle
Forgotten Fireplaces?
And the sidearms were holstered by the chimney with care, In hopes that gun Jesus soon would be there.
I honestly thought this meant that people chucked their guns into the flame for whatever reason
My uncle used to be a gun dealer, in addition to the stuff in the alarmed gunroom there was a couple he used to keep hidden behind his fireplace (the ones he shouldnt have had), whats with guns and fireplaces? lol
Mysterious fireplace man is back.
Its been a while i was getting worried.
Who controls the fireplace controls the fancy handguns.
Forgotten fireplaces could be a thing lol
@@Tezorus The fireplace must glow.
Thanks again for sharing fireplace guy.
10:35 "So this is one of the perks of being, well, emperor of an empire, guys like Mannlicher giving you free guns"
*OK I'm gonna be an emperor*
Aight, bet
Just be a ceo of a multi-national corporation, theyre basically the same thing
I now declare the Empire of Central North Carolina.
@@zacharyrollick6169 Empire of [insert home address here]
@@zacharyrollick6169 You may already be the deposed Emperor of Pineland (it is now a republic) www.soc.mil/SWCS/SWmag/archive/SW2902/Robin%20Sage.pdf
And now over to the wheelbarrel of mud.....
lmfao xD
LOL!!!!
:-D
Wheelbarrow is what’s it’s actually called, yeah I’m fun at parties
@@sabreTXC3 I know that!......Now... Sorry for the first misspelling in the history of internet. ;-)
"Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever."
Yeah but they look cool as hell to decorate your house with.
house? you mean palace
You're pretty good
@@PsychoDad89 *Ocelot Meow*
Ah, but there's this:
Assassin: menace!
Emperor: whips out magnificent art pistol
Assassin: "Say, can I take a look at that?"
Guards: "Ah ha!"
Assassin: "Merde! Foiled!"
Just a routine day in the adventures of Engraved Gun.
Gotta disagree with the "no tactical advantage" bit. I think you can potentially bedazzle your opponent with flashy engravings, causing a momentary hesitation in firing which then gives one an advantage. At least in theory. 😄
“An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age”
"It's a Nice Gun, I'll Give You That. But the Engraving Gives You No Tactical Advantage Whatsoever"
And why is that? Shot 8s shot.
@@dionysus6892 it'll probably distract someone if they're close enough to see it.
nice star wars reference
"A fine addition to my collection"
"Heinz we still have some C96 extractors left over, what are we going to do with them?"
Heinz: *looks at Mannlicher 1900* hmmm
An excellent profile picture.
Stegner always has a look on his face as if he just bit off somebody's head.
You know it's going to be an interesting video, when you see the fireplace in the background.
Ah, Fireplace Collector, my impression of his arsenal grows and grows. I no longer think bank safe but now a whole underground bunker with a fireplace that Ian films in front of so we don't see the steel walls. This guy has so many amazing one of ones it's unbelievable. I would love a walk through of the storerooms.
I think it's like the mansion from Resident Evil, where you put three crests in the bookcase and the floor opens up exposing a research facility.
I wonder if the owner is the Count of Saint Germain, under an assumed name? He would have amassed quite a collection.
I love that the one given to the kaiser is in the best condition, probably because he understood how to maintain a firearm.
I love the look of these pistols, but can we talk about the carrying cases? They look like medieval tomes with the letters illuminated and hand-painted by monks, except there’s a gun in it
Have you ever seen a big, fancy book or Bible that's actually a secret hiding spot?
It's like that, but designed to blend in with your library of 14th-century illuminated texts, 700-page medieval manuscripts, Gutenburg Bibles with half a pound of gold trimming, and, if you're Kaiser Wilhelm, 3291 hardcover books about yourself.
Can we talk about non-firearm weapons? I mean the name of this channel is "forgotten weapons" not "forgotten firearms"... Some crossbows, or even a gadget from medieval times would be cool.
...also, could look at explosives, aircraft guns etc
@@grubbybum3614 Looking at strange melee weapons is Matt Easton's job. He's already sword Jesus (even though some say this title belongs to Skallagrim).
@@thrownswordpommel7393 alright. I guess I have some new channels to watch... Still, I think Ian still has PLENTY to cover eg. The Russian "underwater" guns, Victorian age coffin-guns (which are fricken crazy)
@@grubbybum3614 "Coffin guns"
*Excuse me what the fuck*
I think Ian should start a new series called, "Pimp Guns from the past"
Heck yeah
D'accord. Ian please do this!
Theres a fancy guns playlist.
Have you ever been to Vienna? The Weltmuseum has a huge collection of extremely decorated firearms that the Emperor’s used, some with very unique mechanisms!
"It's good to be king ..."
King Louis XVI *audible gulp*
This is an imposter! - Mel Brooks
"Execution, execution, execution, execution....ah one amnesty left."
Wouldn´t that mean Louis XVI was writing amnesties so much, that he ran out of amnesty papers? ;-)
Charles Stuart has doubts.
@@Taistelukalkkuna More like it is good to be a king, if it is not France in 1792-93.
"It's good to be King."
Not if fireplace guy has trinkets from your treasury. Then something went very wrong.
When your busy watching a 4 year old videos of Ian's just for him to drop a brand new one right on ya!
Nothing better than my morning coffee and a new video from Ian to start my work week.
Cheers
Pringles and Powerade over here
These guns just scream "late Victorian era early semi-auto pistol experimentation"
Getting to handle pistols custom made for Kaiser Wilhelm and the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire...... that's kid of mindblowing.
God I wish we could get an interview with fireplace person.
Vorm. = formerly known as. Strange to machine that into a pistol.
Pretty common practice when a company changed names due to mergers or whatever, but you wanted to still capitalize a bit on the old more well-known name. At the time, Dreyse was still kind of famous so referring to it made the manufacturer seem like less of an upstart.
a-g. vormals Dreyse. I guess the company used to be named Dreyse and was renamed A-G. Not that uncommon to do when you have a good reputation and want to carry that on with the new name.
I.e. my school was called "Goethe-Gymnasium mit ehemaligem Rethel.Gymnasium" even though the latter was integrated years before i started there...
Hell of a clunky name, but that's how we do thinks (or used to, they seem to have dropped that last part at some point...)
Too bad that "Prince" symbol wasn't out yet... ;)
@@messerjocke2000 Waffenfabrik von Dreyse was taken over by Rheinische Metallwaaren- und Maschinenfabrik Sömmerda A.G. which would later become Rheinmetall. I could be mistaken, but A.G. stands for Aktion Gesellschaft (joint stock company) as opposed to GmBH -Gesellschaft mit Beschränkter Haftung (limited liability corporation), correct? (My apologies if I got that wrong. I haven't used German in years.)
@@messerjocke2000 It wasn't renamed A-G, it was an Aktiengesellschaft ( stock company or public limited company), formerly known as von Dreyse
G11 - Teach a clock to shoot
Mannlicher 1900 - Teach a piece of art to shoot
Hi Ian,
Most probably someone did this already but just in case no one did: The text on top of the barrel means:
Mun & Waffenfabrik: Ammunitions & Weapons Factory (Mun is short for Munition, just like ammo for ammunitions)
Soemmerda: it's a small town in Thüringen, Germany: today it's written Sömmerda: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B6mmerda
A-G is short for Aktien Gesellschaft, today it would be AG without the "-": a stock company or public limited company
vorm. is short for vormals: formerly known as
v.Dreyse is the name of a noble family, v. is short for von (of). It's most probably the company of this fellow: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Nicolaus_von_Dreyse
Ian spoke, and the pistols thought lost to history did appear before him . . . Amen.
Howoften did this scenario play out?
"Your Excellency, one of those German gun manufacturers sent you a heavily engraved example of their latest model in hopes of getting a contract for our military."
"Hm. Put it on the shelf with the others."
For some reason I started laughing when I read your comment. I was reminded of Dom DeLouise playing ... Emperor Nero, was it? ... in Mel Brooks' History of the World Part One.
I can just see him reclining on his couch, tunic donned, grapes in hand, someone handing him the delicately engraved box with its divine contents and him handing it off to his servant, "Here, wash this!"
... Yeah, if you haven't seen the movie that makes no sense.
"In front of the fireplace will do, you know the one."
@@CeltKnight Haven't seen...
I'm not sure I can forgive Mel Brooks for not making Part II before he died.
"Jeeeews Iiinnnn Spaaaaaace!"
@@markfergerson2145 - Man, I WISH he'd made Part 2!
He's still alive BTW. I think he's 92 now, but last I heard healthy and in his right mind .. or in SOMEONE'S right mind. 😉🤓
@@CeltKnight I must have been thinking of Carl Reiner.
Dammit Mel, Part II ASAP!
Imagine a collaboration between Mark Felton and Gun Jesus about an extremely rare historical firearm, maybe the guns in the collection of Hermann Goering or the collection of Haile Selassie.
That would be cool but I've seen online comments somewhere accusing Felton of plagiarism; to be honest I didn't dig into it's definitely turned me off watching his stuff for a while. I'd rather watch gun jeebus anyway
@@dennisv3435 Is someone trying to trademark history? Applying the Game Workshop "sue the motherfucker" strategy?
From what Reddit threads I dug up on the topic it seems like he's been accused of repeating information word-for-word from discussion forums, complete with the original post's misconceptions and mistakes, without crediting them. My opinion on this is thus: even though the information is public knowledge, the way it is presented can be plagiarised. So, in Felton's case: he basically read off super old thread posts like a script and hoped nobody would notice
@@dennisv3435 really? I was wondering where he managed to find everything and make video's so fast
3:10 It says Mun[itions]. & Waffenfabr[ik]. Soemmerda A.-G. (joint stock company) vorm[als]. (previously) v[on]. Dreyse.
Thanks pal, I was kind of worried about what happened to the brand name, to be one of the big names during the first weapons industry production explosions to nothing after just one generation, it simply wasn't right.
@@cesargonzalez4146 The Dreyse company was converted into a joint stock company in 1899 and acquired by Rheinmetall in 1901 following bakruptcy.
www.lra-soemmerda.de/Documents/200_Jahre_Industriegeschichte.pdf
Always get excited to see the fireplace. Whoever’s collection this is, it is incredible
Comment on the main manufacturing mark at the top of the first gun:
I speak german, but I am not a weapon expert, so you may forgive me if I miss on historical details.
Text: "MUN & WAFFENFABR. SOEMMERUA A.-G. vorm. v. DREYSE"
- _MUN_ short for _Munition_ which means ammunition
- _WAAFENFABR._ abbreviation for _Waffenfabrik_ which means weapons factory
- _SOEMMERDA A.-G._ I think this refers to the german city "Sömmerda" (oe turns into ö) and _A.G_ is the shortcut for _Aktiengesellschaft_ which means stock corporation (If you take a look at the second gun at 06:33 you see that it's an Ö)
- _vorm._ I think this is an abbriviation of _vormals_ which would translate into formerly
- _v. DREYSE_ I guess this would be "von Dreyse". The _von_ is a peerage and Dreyse is a person. I think this refers to Johann Nikolaus von Dreyse who was born and died in Sömmerda and was a german firearms inventor and manufacturer
I don't know the first things about guns, but I just love listening to this guy talk about them.
What gorgeous boxes! How interesting to see so many examples of these odd pistols sold for the same purpose in the same place.
Congrats on your book being featured in the Aug 2020 edition of Guns & Ammo, Ian!
Just last night I watched the video you did on the early mannlicher pistols. These are quite beautiful.
We definately need more 'Royalty Level' firearms on the channel. Thanks Ian, superb presentation as always 😁
Great video Ian. Great looking pistol. Thank you.
Fireplace Guy does it again. he never ceases to both amaze and come thru with the good stuff.
More guns from the unforgettable fireplace guys collection damn hes got the best stuff ,thanks Ian for showing us all these pistols
Truly beautiful... Always enjoy and am surprised by your content sir. Thank you.
What an amazing collection of early autos! Unbelievable. I’ve never been so jealous of a fireplace.
Thank you for the great video! I don't look forward to much on CZcams, other than #forgottonweapons & #gunsandgadgets! I'm always ready to learn something new and unique about firearms, with a great narration.
Absolutely beautiful work.
Nice. I eagerly await the next weeks worth of Mannlicher only content, as tradition demands!
Beautiful guns. Kaiser Wilhelm never may have loaded or disasemblied this gun. He could not use his left arm.
Well if he had difficulties loading it he could get a servant to clean and load it for him. As he did have servants as a monarch
I heard Wilhelm was very much into modern machinery like automobiles and firearms. He probably appreciated this gift.
@@LiamHickey2967 Yes, old Willie had servants specifically for reloading his rifles when hunting (and I think I remember this wasn’t uncommon among British nobility in the 19th century, either).
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A shoulder stock might have been a good idea because of his arm. He could have gotten a good shooting position that way. Iirc, he loved the Luger with a shoulder stock because of this.
@@trevorjohnson6748 - I hear that's why he was quite found of the rare Mauser C-96 carbine for that same reason.
As always of fountain the knowledge thank you so much for sharing
The decorative episodes are def my favourite
That engraving is next level
Whoa...beautiful pieces.
Very informative and well done
Now that's what I call the perfect Collector's Edition 1899/1900 Mannlicher Pistol Starter Set. They really do all belong together in the same collection...mine! Oh, if only I had those kind of cabbages laying around! Of course, if I am not mistaken, this is his dad's personal collection.
Another treat from fireplace collector!
Wow never Heard of These and they are designed sooo beautifully!
Can't wait for the mud test for this!
Wow, they all look great.
Incredible skill on display. Essentially advertising pieces, but beautiful ones.
These are absolutley beautiful pieces. How do you get ahold of these?
Money... Lots of money.
I assume.
Be royalty
Rule a large area of Europe and have a large army that needs lots of new guns?
Working for a prolific firearm auction house.
He is Gun Jesus, don't ask just marvel in awe you mere mortal.
Wow. Now that's something I'd love to look at.
Nothing like stuff for a King.
I can’t believe I still have the ability to be astounded by the Fireplace Collection. This fireplace presides over the greatest collection of European firearms on the planet.
Thank you , Ian .
If you've been a good boy or girl Gun Jesus will come down the chimney and show you early semi-auto pistols. If you've been naughty he'll fill your stockings with Hi-Points
I'm sure the people who live outside the US who can't own a gun would even mind a hi point.
Thinking of embellished cartridges to go along with it beautiful collection
These are the most beautiful guns I have ever seen
Given how much of the gold plating was worn away, I suspect the Ottoman sultan *did* go out and shoot his presentation pistol.
I watched the other linked video on the Mannlicher 1896 and 1897 pistols, and some of them had holster/stocks. Occurred to me that since the grip shape and size were similar to these pistols, maybe those older stocks would fit into the included cutout on these. Maybe?
What a collection!
Judging by the gilding on the triggers and loading gates somebody got some use out of those pieces
Thank you for sharing.
Early, fancy semi-auto? Gotta be Fireplace Guy.
It would be interesting to see the Kaiser Wilhelm II pistol go to an auction. Fireplace Guy really does have many one of a kind treasures.
Brilliant design and handsome looks.
Love the look of the 1900 Mannlicher, so elegant.
I'm really not into weapons. I never fired a gun and really don't want to, but Ian's presentations, voice, knowledge and all these odd weapons he shows making me a real big fan of his channel.
Keep it up
When the M1912 and the Mauser C93 had a baby.
those are gorgeous
Having a stock slot means that they didn't have to make a new frame if a military order asked for a stock. A large order might justify the cost of designing a stock.
I think that I'd just be happy with a more plain example, but with grips like those on the Kaiser's pistol. Still those things are truly showpieces of skill with that engraving work.
"I have videos on all the Mannlicher pistols"
Oh, we know, Ian, we know.
Love these old Art Guns. A great blend of Engineering and Art. With just a touch of ridiculous.
Regarding the "stock cutout" at the back strap, i'd like to suggest that this might be a production artefact. For instance, if you need to place a cut with a lathe deep inside the frame, you might have to create an opening to do so. Would have helped to take off the grips to check. Anyway, thanks for the beautiful video. :)
These may be among the very few guns Ian isn't permitted to disassemble (or chooses not to disassemble), even with the screwdriver *right there*.
now that’s fancy
Oooo nice engravings :D Thats good for a +10 damage boost over the regular version along with a +15% crit chance. And if you have it equipped while in a conversation thats an extra +2 to charisma.
so weird seeing you handle these ultra rare guns so casually :)
Archduke Franz Ferdinand was also presented a pistol too. It was given to him by a kind Serbian man in 1914
What a beauty!
The return of the Mannlicher Saga!!
I just watched the episode on the Bjorgum pistol. It's funny to imagine that weird thing being in the same collection as Kaiser Wilhelm's personal pistol.
Great subject!
the writing on the barrel translates: "MUN.&WAFFENFABRIK SOEMMERDA A.G, vorm.v DREYSE" which means ammunition and weapon factory Sömmerda A.G. vormals (before) v(on) Dreyse (arms factory)
beautiful guns.
No one here has any idea what I wouldn’t give to own the Kaiser’s personal Mannlicher.
imagine getting killed, checking his loadout, and he bopped you with the man licker....
Absolutely gorgeous.
I feel like I'm unworthy to even look at these beautiful firearms.
I'd love to see an entire video for like April fools where ian just takes a random box of some kind and just sorta "reviews" it like he did with the cases in this, he could EASILY make that entertaining lol
Wow those are super nice, would love to own one.
Earliest version of Mannlicher's final semi-automatic pistol made by Soemmerda (or Sömmerda) A-G (ie. Rheinmetall) formerly Dreyse .
Yes, Sömmerda A-G = Aktiengesellschaft = public limited liability company.
On top it reads ‚vorm‘ which was the abbreviation for ‚vormalig‘ meaning ‚before known as‘ which happened when the owner changed
nice channel, sub from Brazil!
It's not a "screwdriver". It's a Turn Screw. Screwdrivers are cheap things that you buy at WalMart and are made in China. Turn Screws are made for and by real Gunsmiths. Often a set was made by every apprentice to prove their skills and have crucial tools to use.
I can only imagine what either of those pieces may cost.
Always thought there were nice looking guns.
Thanks.