Hikaru Nakamura: Chess, Magnus, Kasparov, and the Psychology of Greatness | Lex Fridman Podcast
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- Hikaru Nakamura is a chess super grandmaster and is currently the #1 ranked blitz chess player in the world. He is also one of the top chess streamers on Twitch and CZcams. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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0:00 - Introduction
1:41 - A private game vs Magnus Carlsen
9:29 - Chess openings
25:42 - Mental preparation
34:22 - Chess tactics
44:45 - Solving chess
50:26 - Aggression and ego
55:11 - Hans Niemann cheating scandal
1:05:03 - How to cheat in chess
1:19:26 - Greatest chess player of all time
1:29:43 - Hikaru's immortal game
1:42:08 - Paul Morphy
1:43:52 - World Chess Championship
1:46:41 - Magnus Carlsen
1:50:16 - Sergey Karjakin
1:52:43 - Beauty of chess
1:59:38 - Day in the life
2:14:16 - Streaming
2:28:56 - Taking risks
2:34:25 - Depression
2:39:14 - Advice for young people
2:46:34 - Love
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0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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1:41 - A private game vs Magnus Carlsen
9:29 - Chess openings
25:42 - Mental preparation
34:22 - Chess tactics
44:45 - Solving chess
50:26 - Aggression and ego
55:11 - Hans Niemann cheating scandal
1:05:03 - How to cheat in chess
1:19:26 - Greatest chess player of all time
1:29:43 - Hikaru's immortal game
1:42:08 - Paul Morphy
1:43:52 - World Chess Championship
1:46:41 - Magnus Carlsen
1:50:16 - Sergey Karjakin
1:52:43 - Beauty of chess
1:59:38 - Day in the life
2:14:16 - Streaming
2:28:56 - Taking risks
2:34:25 - Depression
2:39:14 - Advice for young people
2:46:34 - Love
Please interview Scott Ritter for info on the situation in Ukraine 🙏
No time stamp called “I literally don’t care” ? My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Lex, please get Benjamin Cowen on your podcast. He's huge on crypto and has done interviews with Michael Saylor. Many of us here would love that interview.
I feel confident speaking on behalf of the engine on why it plays moves like h4:
“I win more when I do that.”
Neural nets are super simple beasts. There is no deep wisdom. So glad you’ve plugged into chess as a topic. 😊
You getting hanz nieman on???
It was a pleasure meeting you and thank you so much for taking the time to focus so much on chess in the past few months! I hope people can draw some inspiration or enjoyment from all of these amazing podcasts.
L + Ratio
BONG CLOUD
❤
thanks Hikaru!
eric hansen pumped you full of alberta oil 🥊🥊🥊
We need a recap of that secret match
That's your job Levy.
Do it please!!
Hehe heh. Gotham!
I was here before this comment blew up!
hey man love your vids, recently got into chess because of you
Where could we watch a passionate breakdown of that?
Hikaru is joking around but i remember not long ago, in a Titled Tuesday Tournament, dude said "i'm tired and i don't want to calculate, ima just sac my queen" and won the game. I was flabbergasted LOL
really daaaamn
Prove it
@@sarcastaball czcams.com/video/7gpzyfjTYH0/video.html 7:33:00
@@sarcastaball ?
@@sarcastaball He's done that so many times... Watch his stream.
Hikaru is so open and transparent, there’s a braveness to this that makes me so impressed with him.
Its not brave ... he just incessantly blabbers ... those are the things that can get you involved in a lawsuit
@@grassCrow you’re the only hater in this entire thread lmao. Give it up.
@@grassCrow one time is enough
@@grassCrow What a sad life you got, going around attacking someone who doesn’t know you and who doesn’t impact your life whatsoever. Miserable scum of a life you have, I feel sad for you
Not to be a hater, but i think his persona is very PR ready.
He isn't genuine when it comes to the actual stuff.
He didn't tell anything about the chessbrah drama did he?
He didn't say i did a very bad thing, or that things went bad there were mistakes on both sides.
I can give him some space because it's difficult to admit fault, but at the same time those things become your demons
I'm absolutely loving all the love for chess, Lex! 💚
Release the cheater list
Oh boy you will love this podcast.
Unban Hans,or else Albequrque will see the blue stuff again.
👍
wow the Chess devs
My dude, I never really was a podcast kinda guy, but since I found yours recently i can't stop listening to episode after episode... thank you so much for doing this!
Pods are crazy. Had the addiction for 2 yrs
Check out Joe Rogan’s podcast for a lot more entertaining conversations - Lex is my go-too for intellectual stimulation haha.
@@wedontexist369 his old ones were the shit. nowdays its ok.. i still listen to them though haha
@@wedontexist369 rogan fell off the deep end since 2020
Hikaru made me follow chess during the pandemic. A great communicator
Magnus, the Botez sisters, Gotham, and now Hikaru! This is great... love the chess coverage, man.
So do I.
I thought this was Asian Jim
Would love to have Eric Hansen here too :)
Now do Hans Niemann, GOAT
Magnus, Hikaru & the Botez sisters!
You may not get as many views in these podcasts but the fact you are promoting the chess community will always be appreciated by those who truly care ...thank you lex
So like 11 people?
I dont even play chess and I have watched them all
wth? I think these will get more views, lol
Yeah these will age well over the years. Had he done these about a year ago they probably go viral back then. It was nuts during that boom after Queen's Gambit.
This is a gem of an interview. Enjoyed every minute of it.
It seems I'm a little late to the party, but I was driving last night listening to this conversation and I heard Hikaru mention something that I deeply resonated with. I don't remember the exact wording or timestamp, but he said something to the effect of the rewarding feeling to have all these cultural, generational, and backstory differences, but at the same time be on equal footing when it comes to the love of chess. I am in a very similar boat when it comes to my passion of choice, cornhole(bag toss, whatever your region calls it). I am a professional cornhole athlete with the American Cornhole League, but that is besides the point. At the highest level of the game, there are 256 people that get to have the title of Professional, with another 64 or so that are in the Pro Development Cup. While there is a pronounced racial skew, not bias, within this small population, it is amazing to see the different walks of life that everyone comes from. From college students like myself, up to cheese factory workers in their 50's to 70's, and all the way down to 12 and 13 year old phenoms who can outplay anyone, but still haven't even hit the point of working a standard job. Passion and love are wonderful things. They bring wisdom for us all to share with one another, and bring everyone closer day by day. Wonderful conversation. I'll be sure to catch more of them in the future.
Magnus, Gotham, and now Hikaru. The past month or so has been a treat
All started with botez sisters.
It sucked if you’re not into board games like me.
Feels unreal. I just started playing.
@@BarrettKillz It's not just about a "board game" it's about game theory, strategy and rational thinking.
Agadmator next
You can really notice how much more fluently Hikaru expresses his thoughts when he is in an active conversation instead of multitasking chess playing, chat reading and talking by himself during the streams. A brilliant man!
you you you you can chat, yes chat, yes, you can really, you can really notice, you can really notice chat, how much more fluently chat, yes chat, much more fluently chat, Hikaru expresses his thoughts chat
...while playing troll openings like the Bong Cloud against IM's and still winning. 😁
He is a brilliant chess player, and he is better at chess than I will ever be at anything in my life- so nothing but props and respect to him. But I think one of the things fascinating about Hikaru is that he isn’t a genius. He comes across as just a normal dude. He’s not particularly articulate, and doesn’t seem to be very insightful overall. He is easily the most relatable super GM I’ve heard.
@@YogSoth man is clearly a genius if you watch him play
@Yodel Odelstein... bruh he was a master player by age 10... of course he is a genius he was a child prodigy...
My respect for Hikaru increased 100x after this interview. He gives a really balanced and humble perspective on a lot of these questions. Awesome conversation.
Extremely well articulated as well.
He seems like a cool guy to hang out and chat with.
The king of fair and balanced awesome sauce.
This conversation has made me realize a small part of why I enjoy Hikaru in this age of chess. He is the top dog in blitz and with chess evolving with AI blitz keeps it the most "human" as possible with its demand for quick response and planning.
I agree , I think the only way to keep chess human and exiting is in shorter time formats
One thing has always been apparent, Hikaru is a supremely sensitive human being. What a kind hearted genius of a man. Amazing interview Lex. Truly.
Lex has embarked on this journey because he wants to beat hard mode on his chess app
Nelson got stomped after this series of pods 💯
Bead it if you can't beat it
Lex wants to play genius chess cause he a Russian...me hit a world class slider cause I'm a yank. It's in your bones. Magnus is a freaking monster. Love Lex!
@Bob Bobson LMAO
Is that like the AI has two kings or something?
I love Hikaru, because not many top in the world, (even all time) share so willingly their thought process and their strategy. He is a people's champion.
I've seen his stream ... he seems to me to be an incessant blabber ...
@@grassCrow Most people watch to learn what he's thinking when he's playing and to here new. So, yeah, he talks a lot.
@@grassCrow new to Twitch, eh?
I like Ana and Levy too.
@@antmanmax1 ?
THANK YOU FOR THIS!! He's so engaging, good-humoured and kind; well on his way to becoming the greatest living "chess ambassador" of our generation. This interview is a treat!
Lp
Lex asked the best questions possible to make this a fantastic interview. And HN answered each question candidly and gave insight into the chess mind.
So nice to see Hikaru here, he is really well spoken
An incessant blabber mouth that is well spoken. LOL
@@grassCrow You ended your comment with "LOL". Your comment is now considered irrelevant.
@@badcornflakes6374why did you bury him alive?
Hikaru is a great person to have conversation with. He speaks quickly and provides interesting info and insights. Great episode.
And he didn't interrupt Lex, which Garry Kasparov would do in interviews.
@@jonathanbush6197
Kasparov is rather excitable. 😆
Tiesa
What makes Hikaru so interesting is his ability to be so articulate, honest, and objective of himself and the others around him. His ability to do that is better than almost everyone else I have seen.
Yup, nicely said.
best from the chess world most def. I agree with you
Hikaru for the president!
You nailed it!
It’s easy for him to be frank and honest because the only person better than him is Magnus which is an easy pill for everyone to accept at this point 😂
I've followed the career of Hikaru Nakamura since he first he first came on the scene. I remember when he all but disappeared, I suppose when he was in college, and remember being thrilled when he returned. It's almost impossible to believe he is now in his mid thirties, but I'm grateful for all the years of great chess and entertainment he's provided. Thank you Hikaru.
me too i used to watch him play on icc under the handle "smallville"... good times
Unreal Lex. We've got jobs, bro. You can't keep putting out such good content, we have stuff to do 😅
Listen while you work on your house 🎶
LOL. Too true. But I have to make time. This is far better than Netflix.
Get a job where you can listen to podcast with one headphone. It's what I do while working, it's great for certain monotonous tasks that don't require intense concentration or focus
Faaaxxxxxxxx😂
These guests are amazing. Thank you for doing what you do, Lex. Much love 💕
"It's 50/50 between blitz, rapid, and classic chess"
-Hikaru Genius
Hikaru is such a great guest as well! (calm, collected, attentive, passionate)
I’m really glad that lex was so caught up to the memes, makes the whole podcast more enjoyable
I love how Lex got a free lesson in the najdorf from Hikaru. That's super special, he's lucky.
We all got a free lesson hehe
He didn't? Naka said some very widely known and basic things about the Najdorf...
Hikaru is so well spoken, I don’t watch him as much as I watch other chess commentators but he is absolutely amazing to listen to.
1:27:45 "I just don't blunder. I just dont blunder at the end of the day" ~ Hikaru
Love the way he said that lmao
Didn’t know Hikaru is a history buff. Great content guys
Of all the chess episodes here, this is by far my favorite.
Lex, you are getting good at asking hard questions. Thank you for the effort you put into improving that part of you.
Hikaru has streamed so much he talks like a streamer in normal conversation.
Or the other way around
What does that even mean?
He talks casual and normal in stream because he’s such a natural
remember, he reaches for the mouse OTB
concerning how many likes your non sensical comment got
Fantastic interview: great questions and great chemistry. I love how open and articulate Hikaru is
The one and only Chess personality I was wishing to see on your Podcast !! Thanks Lex for inviting Hikaru, such an insightful conversation. Really loved it!
Chucky would be great too. He famously beat Kasparov at Linares in a brilliant game.
the chess podcasts have been fantastic, great to see Hikaru on!
Thanks for your content, and thanks to Hikaru always wanted a long interview with him !
As an immense chess passionate and huge admirer of GM Nakamura, this interview and all the informations it contains is pure gold to me. Thank you so much.
Cool dude. Down to earth, funny, brilliant, and still very competitive. Who wouldn't want to go out and have a beer with. His biography is fascinating. Amazing interview, and count me as a fan.
Thank you for this podcast. I love how you interview people. I am not even a big chess fan and I listened to it all. And your other chess related episodes made me want to watch the Queens Gambit .
Two of my worlds COLLIDING & culminating in such a fantastic podcast! A real journey of self discovery, self awareness while having this extraordinary talent. Bravo Hikaru & bravo Lex! 🙏🏾☀️🥳🎉💫🌍
This is absolutely magnificent 👏👏👏 I've followed Hikaru on many occasions, and yet this is still a tremendous interview.
29:57 Next minute exchange was hilarious. 'I imagine you in a dark room drinking and playing video games' had me bust a gut.
Dude I'm loving the chess rounds you're making
You really bring out the best with these guests Lex. Very nice that you didn’t just ask about chess but you even went towards philosophy and even a bit of spirituality might I say with Hikaru. Very nice to hear and know that side of him
Very good podcast. I’m high school I played a lot of chess but I never knew any chess players and I never looked up different strategies or anything like that. Years later I am not a huge chess enthusiast and am very involved with the community and a large part of that is because of Hikaru. And I love how appreciative he is. Chess is a wonderful game and I hope it continues to go up. It is very exciting and inspiring.
Halfway through this episode, but wow! The amount of inspiration and motivation I'm collecting off of him. Truly a humble genius, the people's champion. I wish to be like such a man, Hikaru Nakamura. So smart and lovable. 👏🏽
Hikaru is one of the most intelligent and impressive individuals I've ever seen! His memory is next level! Imagine if Rain Man was extremely talkative, coherent and had a personality. That's Hikaru!
He’s good at chess. Sure, he’s intelligent in that sense. That’s about it.
@@robdubent no. he's gooder than good
@@robdubent I think the comment was talking about memory if I'm not wrong?
Why dont you go marry him then? Boom, roasted😶
lmfao
These chess interviews are fantastic! Kudos to you Lex for taking on a series of interviews where you are by no means close to an expert on.
Keep the chess content coming, Lex. Really enjoying this.
It is facinating to hear which fundamentals are playing out in Hikaru's mind when he is in the zone. Although there are very few who could truly experience the same intuition perhaps just this aspiration can affect our play!.
Great Great guest Lex. The podcast is ageing like fine wine.
Hikaru Nakamura is an awesome person. Great video !
He’s toxic af
Not sure why, but this is one of the most enjoyable interviews I've watched.
Regardless of the fact that Hikaru is one of the greatest to ever play the game, what makes him stand out to me is that he genuinely inspires others to take up chess. He did for me (he's def my favourite) and I'm sure he did with a lot of others. Thanks Lex for inviting him and for bringing more attention to chess recently
loving Lex's chess phase! another great interview!
Big ups to Hikaru, Levy and Magnus for making it on this podcast, and Lex for bringing them on; allowing us to get an insight into the minds of these amazing players 💯💯 Definitely looking foward to more. Churr from NZ 🇳🇿
Big ups from NZ!!
Aeee Chur Brada!! 🤙🏾🙌🏾🔥🔥
And the botez sisters. People seem to ignore their appearance.
How embarrassing, I even watched that podcast aswell and forgot 🤦🏿♂️ I think it's because I primarily watch Hikaru, Levy and Magnus on a daily basis as apposed to the Botez sisters, but thanks for reminding me brother 💯💯
Please don't forget the Botez sisters
This is an awesome niche that Lex is carving out. Loving these episodes.
The precise and assaying questions by Fridman. The clever and resourceful responses by Nakamura. Wonderful intellectual play.
Was waiting on the edge of my seat for the Hikaru podcast! I knew this was coming!!! Great content.
1:07:07 - There’s a great video by Mike Boyd where he actually made the device in question that Hans supposedly used, same toy and everything lol, it has a small computer or arduino inside which vibrated according to the best chess move to play. It did not make a sound when closed up so no one could hear it. He didn’t put it where the sun don’t shine in the video, which I assume would be very difficult to find when entering a tournament setting anyway, but after putting it together and gluing the toy back up so it was just rubber on the outside, a metal detector (which again I assume they use at tournament’s) could not detect it in his hand passing right over it. He put it in his pocket, which of course is obvious, and again the metal detector did not pick it up. He ended up taping it to his lower leg/ankle, and then played a high rated chess player, one without the device in which he lost of course, but then one using the device, and he was being complimented on his moves and eventually won the game.
The other player suspected something was fishy because of the first game they played, but he has absolutely no idea how or what he was doing to be able to pull it off.
So I can easily imagine a situation in a tournament setting where you are high enough ranked where it would not draw suspicion to you, could easily pass through the metal detectors and pull something like this off.
Magnus stopped playing WC after that device became public. Thats the big scandal.
@@jepulis6674 lol keep dreaming. You can clearly see that he doesn't need it and won't need it. Being ahead of everyone else in all time formats is more than enough to win you a lot. Plus, Magnus doesn't need to prove anything.
@@huxa7624 your comment is highly inappropriate. Besides, there's no point in using profanity when conversing.
@@esteracyl9007 🤦♂️
This was great. Hikaru is a legend. Respect
What an excellent talk! Love Hikaru! He's super humble and inspiring!
Great interview. In regards to changing the WC game format: I think that race to 8 with G/90 or even G/60 time control would result in much more dynamic top tier Chess. G/60 has always been my favorite tourney time control. But that is just my opinion.
My idea would be to turn it around, i mean, the sequence of things. You play classical, when its a draw you play rapid, when its a draw you play blitz, when its a draw you play armageddon. That sucks. Just imagine reversing it. Armageddon first, then blitz which might make the armageddon result meaningless unless the blitz portion its drawn. Then you play rapid, which unless its drawn makes the armageddon and blitz results meaningless.
Now the tiebreaks are done, and these have been fun, as each player had options to turn everything around. Now you go into the classical games, where one player can play for an outright win with the knowledge that an over all draw of the classical portion will be good enough. And the other player knows he has to win it outright, because he already lost the tiebreaks so a draw will be no good.
As the tiebreaks are done and past, and you go into the classical section with pressure from game 1, it will feel much more like only the classical games make the outcome. The final deciding game will be a classical one.
Does that make sense?
Two issues with race to 8: If both players go from 7.5 to 8 with a draw, you still need tiebreaks. If the player to first reach 8 had one more game with white, that is just not fair, the other player needs another game with white so both have the same number of games with white. So again both players can reach 8, and you need tiebreaks. And again, playing the tiebreaks first can help with the painful feeling that rapid and blitz decided everything.
Just finished the Magnus and Levy interviews. Great timing on this one!
Thanks a million lex. I follow you for a while and I really love chess and you have brought a lot of people. Really appreciate it.
The best question we can all ask ourselves in order to improve at anything is "Why am I not doing well at X?". This particular character trait is a goldmine. Much respect Hikaru!
Well done yet again. Nice to get to know Hikaru better. I stumbled upon him during the latest chess boom myself.
Lex. These chess discussions remind me a lot of Fighting videogames, like Street Fighter. It’s a pure psychological game. A lot of interactions are about forcing your opponent into unfavorable guessing games, or how to minimize personal risk while conditioning your opponent into risky habits. Also, I think it is amazing that videogame designers/programmers (smart people) have not yet figured out how to make a computer fight in a way that replicates humans. Bots can be better than humans, but only because they cheat.
Someone like Justin Wong or Sajam would be a great guest.
11:32 Hikaru pre-moving the reply to "can you teach me?"😂😂
Premoved the Npc dialogue 😂
Hikaru is so well spoken and honest. He is inspirational and a role model ❤
I literally have checked your channel everyday for like 2 weeks for this
The chess talk series :D Loving it
These podcasts have inspired me to try and go for 1000 ELO before the end of the year
Don't stop there
My goal is 5000 blitz rating
1000 elo is eassyyy lad you can do it no problem.
1000 elo is a starting point, no?
Just learn 2 popular openings well and start with long games and puzzles, then switch to 10 min and you'll do good
@@pandabearguy1 well, no one did it before + you barely gain rating after reaching 3000 so...
It is always interesting to hear what Hikaru has to say and the way he explains it. Great interview!!!
Lex I have so much respect for you interviewing my favorite chess players,Hikaru and Levy, whom I started following about a year ago. I loved you before but wow do I love you now Lex. Keep it up brother
Great interview as always Lex. Regarding ”Don't try" from Charles Buckowski tomb I think it relates to his poem "Go all the way” kinda in the opposite direction of "don't care too much". Kinda like Yoda: "Do or do not, there is no try".
Love how you are making your rounds through the chess royalty.
This is an excellent interview. I love the time and space you give the topic. You slow Hikaru down a bit so we can enjoy the genius (sometime he just speaks so fast on his own stuff it's tough to follow for me). He speaks in Blitz mode!!
“Are you a data scientist?” (smile at the camera).. lmao
The Lex Fridman Podcast has always been great, but happy to see it broadening to include the chess world. 😀
6:22 is such a great question and response. Trying to be cheeky around Magnus is like trying to salsa dance with a grizzly bear
Thanks for this podcast!
Oh wow i listened to all of it, it was great, good questions, divers, we got to know Hikaru better , love it :) keep it up, some love from Romania :)
Hikaru presents ideas in a very clear and fast way. He would be great at Blitz.
He's really good at Fischer Random as well
Im loving all the chess content recently!
Hell yes this is the crossover we’ve been waiting for.
The opening question kicks it off so well!
8:12 LEX: "Are you able to appreciate the epic-ness of this ?" referring to the legendary hotel-room 40-game sequence Hikaru played with Magnus.
The question itself is epic, for it represents such a careful and admiring prod into the thought processes of Hikaru that it cannot but bring out the absolute best from him. And both rise to the occasion.
That's the mark of a great interviewer...!
Lex... your interviews are beyond merely informative and entertaining... they are truly inspirational amd lay bare for us the very best of your guests. Thank you
2022 is a golden age for chess podcast. Love it.
I LOVE all of this chess content, Lex! Keep it up! ♟️
I absolutely love this interview. Hikaru is so articulate and thoughtful in his responses that the time flew by and it has left me wanting to hear more.
Like a Kardashian?
You're on a hell of a role Lex - love it!
*roll
*rolex
Roly poly*
The _role_ of a lifetime!
@@infinitytoinfinitysquaredb7836 like a roll model
This is going to be an amazing episode!
definitely love the questions and answers from both. very inspiring.
Lex, so great to see interviews of the chess players recently.
How about having in your show Michael Redmond, the only Western Go player to achieve the highest professional rank (9d). He lives in Japan, though, so I don't know how easy it would be to arrange face to face.
I love Hikaru because he is a genuinely good and open person and I just feel good when I see him
People are saying he's toxic. He even admitted that he was toxic while being younger. I know - people do change, but some things are very hard to get rid off
@@inemanja Maybe my impression is completelyg or partially wrong, and maybe I didn't research topic of Hikaru's toxicity enough. I am also a clinical psychologist and I see one thing in Hikaru which might lead to toxicity, but still, this is my impression
@@Igor_lvanov Don't get me wrong I like to listen to his interview (he's very good at giving interviews), but I'm not sure about how good is he as a person...
LOL ... he is a good person because his incessant blabbering makes you feel good?
@@grassCrow you have on sad miserable life to go attack someone in every thread.