Career Paths for Software Engineers and how to navigate it.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 06. 2024
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Topics covered:
1:22 - Backend web engineer
2:41 - Web frontend engineer
3:54 - Web fullstack engineer
5:20 - Mobile engineer
7:02 - Game/Graphics engineer
8:35 - Data engineer
9:30 - ML engineer
10:11 - Dev Ops engineer
10:36 - QA engineer
.NET eco, desktop dev? Dead?
@@QuadraAce Well I guess google does not prefer microsoft tech stack
@@STRanastassis xDDDDD
Low key wishing there was more info on how to build towards becoming a QA engineer. I'm a QA tester learning to code for test automation.
what is Dev ops and qa engineer?
Finally, some actual tech content
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The guy from china uncensored ?
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This calmed my anxiety over the amount of tech skills/ coding languages available to learn... my focus was too all over the place and I would get overwhelmed. Cool Video. Thanx TechLead!
@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo one day at a time my friend, you'll make it
and here I found myself very interested in python after getting a quick 2 hour tutorial and coding a little. good thing not everyone seeks to start with py
I was thinking python but now I'm thinking mobile development
Ikr
I was mess up and depressed before watching this video
Same thing with me. "Web dev is so saturated, gotta go for something else"
"Mobile dev sounds nice"
"Dude embedded is so awesome, so cool to directly interact with hardware"
"Yo ML is so awesome too"
"I really wanna know how OSes work. I wanna build my own kernel."
"Hacking sounds cool too."
"How do compilers work again?"
Hey *TechLead* here, and welcome back to another episode of the *TechLead* , it is tea time with your host the *TechLead* , the *TechLead* . Now as an ex-google *TechLead* . . .
Thatâs the joke
Im starting to think that he was a techlead..
couldn't have said it better myself
@@TechLead Hey TechLead :D
Gotta spread them keywords!
Don't let this video distract you from the fact that he is an Ex-Google Tech Lead !
This should be a disclaimer đđ
How does this disclaimer affect the information heâs dishing out, that is should be highly respected & appreciated or?
Don't let Gurtinder Singh distract you from believing that he is right... he is just super jealous who cannot land a job anywhere.
@@balloney2175 đ đ don't take it seriously , he is just joking
Now also an ex-Facebook tech lead lol
Obviously the person who studies machine learning and JavaScript is preparing themselves to be the most prolific hacker of the 21st century.
lmfao
Hey that's me.
@@HettyPatel lol
@@HettyPatel wow
using the most shitty programming lang the world has ever seen.
Thank you for the awesome advice.
I took the front-end web development path, with teaching myself HTML/CSS/JavaScript/WordPress and built a good handful of websites. I landed a nice intro job building Wordpress websites for Dealerships in the top floors of a beautiful skyscraper overlooking the water. I LOVE my job!
I learned a lot from great advice from developerâs like you and a few other favorites on CZcams. I appreciate all you great developers that share their wisdom. Thank you.
What do you do at ur job and howâs ur work life?
@@turbz1626 I describe my job in my post, back then. But that was almost two years ago. I have done much more in IT now. I am on my 10 project now. I have done platform front-end web development, Technical Writing, IT Service, Internet Security, Quality Assurance Testing, etcâŠ. That first job gave me a ton of opportunities in many career fields in IT. But the downfall is those opportunities arise because I am cheap help, I get paid less than half a jr. web developer should get and I canât show off my amazing things I have created because of Confidentiality contracts. So in all things there is a balance of goods and bad.
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@@SheWhoTechs i wanted to know, is the amount your are paid a year atleast 6 figures or no?
@@uhhsynchro1610 well a jr developer earns $69,000-$88,000.. if she gets less than half she's pulling in $30,000- $40,000... I think that's bad for a developer. Considering she's self taught maybe after 3yrs her salary will jump with experience.
I wore the, "all code is garbage" shirt during my internship. Now I have an job.
see that? it works.
Naser Rezayi ya donât need good english if youâve got good java (or any other programming language)
@@sebmandal the inverse is also true.
@@trucnguyenthanh7610 u clearly don't have good English tho.
reverse karma, what do u work btw?
Damnit the Techlead is so fucking knowledgeable. All jokes aside u have dropped some serious knowledge that took me years to understand in just 10 minutes. In fact u do it whenever u decide to get serious, all while still working full time, mentoring Jomas noob depressed ass, going thru a nasty breakup, launching a business, managing assets worth millions, cracking jokes and drinking coffee. RESPECT THE FUCKING TECHLEAD PEOPLE!!!
Thanks so much for the MASSIVE values you have been providing to all of us, Tech Lead!! Keep your good work up!! :)
I do agree with you , I have started as a front end engineer and learned backend development on fly, and thatâs how I moved from a sales job to a Software Engineer position at BBC. Thanks for sharing tech lead đ
Jean Rauwers any tips? I am coming from journalism who went to a bootcamp so I can get a job as a software engineer for a media outlet? What exactly do you do btw? I am not interested in data, though. Thanks
Basically I studied for 8 months, keeping my full time job until I got my new job by the time as a junior Frontend developer for a small agency. Did lots of online curses and tutorials and thatâs why I decided to give back creating my CZcams channel, please check it out as I talk about my journey!
@@JeanRauwers did you went to school for it ? front end back end engineering. which program at first you start learned.
as someone who only knew "coding" from high school classes and online tutorials this is immensely helpful. I felt like I have an actual goal to work towards and what I want. thx!
This by far the best orientation video I have ever seen.
Thank you Tech Lead!
Thank you for this explanation of the industry. I started uni a long time ago and I got discouraged by professors talking about all of the different technologies and how difficult they are, but not talking about the different directions you can take to focus on some tech stacks and not all. I really appreciate this video and engineers like you that take the time to explain all the different paths you can take.
Thanks for putting together this video itâs imo of the highest value of information so far.
Excellent video sir. You just solidified my role in Web Full-Stack engineer. Why spread your focus on many languages when you can study and practice your skills in that specific role and be the best at it. Thank you again.
TechLead something something TechLead. TECHLEAD
that's pretty much the whole video
this is really useful for somebody thats starting in tech, thanks a lot techlead !
Just found your channel and have binge watched your videos. Best channel I've found in a long while. You're very likeable and funny, as you're so truthful. Keep at it, best of wishes with everything personal life-related! Thank you for creating this channel.
Sending strength to you Mr Tech Lead. You are the Tech Lead, the ex-Google Tech Lead. Tech Lead.
"I've seen some people going around learning Machine Learning and Javascript"
LOL! This is actually me right now!
Hey bro you nice
hei u so nici bro omg
Thank you for this video it is exactly what I needed to hear as I travel down this career change path.
I keep coming back to this video it really gives me perspective, I also started as game developer then AR/VR now doing mobile Android.
"It is tea time with your host of TechLead, the TechLead." *Sips tea like a boss*
jokes aside, I love how transparent this man is about his contents. Truly a great guidance!
This man is my virtual mentor.
Signed up for the free daily interview pro questions, itâs great thanks for putting that together.
Awesome video, as always. No fillers, just pure gold
I would love if you did some videos for developers who have a few years experience, and things you wish you knew then. Primarily about building personal branding, since many developers are expected to write blog posts, and be active in the learning process.
I studied electronics on college but I really liked computer science. Landed a job as a QA engineer, writing automation test scripts using Java and python.
10 months later I finally got myself to a full stack engineer đ
How is the pay?
Engineering in my country is being paid peanuts and computer science career is nearly double the pay I had as a robotic engineer.
Automation tester and fullstack is being paid the same, but most importantly I am a lot more happy with my current job.
@@MadTofan thanks for the reply. I thing I'll go CS. I want to start my own company someday
@@victornyamu2547 good luck on your endeavor đȘ
@@MadTofan you too
Cheers
Some actual good advice here. Also was a full stack dev for half of my career. Then went into architecture and so on.
You do a good job of answering the questions I have and then including the details like the relevant languages. More please. Id like to hear your perspective on whether or not the current VR trend is a gimmick.
Embedded Software Engineering doesn't get enough attention. As microprocessors and microcontrollers are getting more and more powerful, the need for SOLID developers in the embedded world is growing. It's very much less of an EE role today than it was 10-20 years ago.
I came down to the comments to say pretty much the same thing. I'm not in the embedded field but it is huge around me with all the aerospace companies here. I wish someone would address this field someday cause its one that there is almost zero information on.
@@coreyorndoff9417 yeah I actually am an embedded software engineer and it is growing really fast especially with the growth of IoT
Yea I'm seeing the growth. I see new embedded jobs posted almost daily and I'm wondering if it's something I should be looking into as I graduate with my CS degree.
@Lane, what device would be good to practice implementing embedded softwares? Arduino?
@@kenshamir2113 absolutely! Arduino and Raspberry Pi are great places to get your feet wet. Then you can start moving on to some NXP development kits or something
"Tech lead word" count : 5 , Time: 0.09 secs
Yeah. That's quite annoying, as much as being recommended these types of BS videos from some failure of an AI.
@@retropaganda8442 Really? I love it lmao. I find it hilarious - It's just part of his dry humor which is incredibly appealing to me.
Thank you so much for this, deciding on a path can be so overwhelming and this cleared things up
thank you so much for clarifying these different roles and the skills associated with them.
This was actually so helpful, thanks!
Excellent. Thank you for sharing all that info with us. Lesson: we need to focus on something.
focus helps for sure.
What are doing now?
Thank you for talking about this! I would love to hear in more detail about other entry level jobs for a software engineer :D
Thank you for letting US know about these kind of things.
The first step in right path of life and career is always subscribing to techlead.
Cool vid! I haven't managed to get an internship or tech job yet (Physics bachelor, ECE master-in-progress, 0 business skills) but your videos + my new uni career center are giving me hope!
Same boat...
Law Undergrad Degree
Software Masters in progress
Did you get a job?
How is it going for youđđœ
I am watching your vlogs this year, I learned many things from your vlog. I was also fired from a software IT company. I am now still hoping and praying to achieve to my goal, to become a software Engr. I used to study coding every night.
Thank you for calmly explaining this foreign world to me. It sounds to me that I should use my beginning learning c++/ python .
I feel like I'm listening to an SEO-optimized article, read by the TechLead, directed by the TechLead, produced by the TechLead.
Pick up EE and it opens up hardware architecture, and embedded system, firmware jobs. Some you don't even need much EE knowledge at all. Writing in assembly, or even individual architecture's own instruction sets.
Yeah he kinda forgot about this one
I've been a computer hardware nut since I was 11, but last year I got into coding because I wanted to make apps for my android phone which led me to consider making it a career option. Thanks for the insight
My left arm is fubar with nerve damage atm. I was inspired by your videos too learn coding. Currently learning about Javascript. Going to try and be a one armed coder lol
It's great that you mentioned Graphics Engineer and that it is getting attention. Computer Graphics is my favourite field and I'm considering pursuing a master's degree in this field.
Can anybody who is working in this field mention more about being a Graphics Engineer?
Thank you for this video, Tech Lead!!!
Thank you so much
I was getting overwhelmed and learning little bit of everything ( didnât help me at all) now i know what to do and i can write my plan for the future đ
Thank you, Tech Lead, for the excellent advice...as an aspiring software engineer, it is an honour to get advice from the ex-Google tech lead. Your introductions are pure gold...they crack me up every time.
how do you know he was a tech lead at Google?
Tech lead, you should go to Joe Rogan experience talk show! That will be epic!
I agree
That would be really weird... Iâm down for it though
Count me in!
Hello TechLead. I enjoyed your description of all the job roles in the software industry. However, you missed out two important areas.
1. Embedded Systems Software Developer
This job is done by Electrical / Mechatronic engineers.
2. Scientific Software / Numerical Simulation Software Developer
This is done by scientists, applied mathematicians, and research engineers. It is a highly scientific area, and comparable to Machine Learning and Data Science jobs and requires tons of applied math. The area is also called Scientific Computing.
Wow, one of the best videos on this topic! It's very helpful!
This is one of the few channels on youtube that is actual tech content. This is something people actually working in the field understand and can relate to. All the other youtubers are great but cast thier content across the wider audiance of people who aren't YET in tech, or for those just getting thier feet wet. Thats why the title is so fitting, Ex Google Tech Lead - its legitimate content. This is EXACTLY like the conversations of two experience programmers or what "coffee is like" with your actual tech lead.
Hi TechLead, I really like your videos and I've learned so much from you. I'm about to finish my BS degree in software development with emphasis on developing apps for Android. I would really like to hear your thoughts on not just mobile engineers, but especially those who pursue the Android route, and explain more why the industry is so much sought after and highly paid, and tips on what we can do to hone our skills/success in this field and your overall recommendations in general. Thank you, and I wish you all the best!
Only Techlead can get these many likes and comments with no views
yeah, he's got over 5000 views though...
I think it is really important to know what you are passionate about and focus on the specific field.
There's a lot of languages and skills to study for beginners if you don't know what you like. Thanks for the amazing video.
If you can learn one language you can learn pretty much anything especially with notes public information or even real simple meetings with people where you can ask a few questions. I remember changing the "Slide to unlock" on old iPod Touch 3s. All depends what you do with it.
App development is truly rewarding đ
and Tai Lopez is still such an insufferable douche
What kind of app? There are a lot of types.
I shared this on Facebook !! Great video too ^_^
Respect the hustle!!! Thank you for all the words of wisdom. :)
Thank you for this video! I am getting into coding myself
Hi Techlead,
please make a video on how to make an effective path to a technical manager (sorry, tech lead) role.
php is a common language... so you can develop wordpress sites, very logical of you TeachLead
Great content! I enjoyed watching this from start to finish.
This was really helpful! I love the full explanation. Thanks.
I don't know which career path take, I just love doing everything :(
same lol trying to figure it out fast since im pushing 30
Product path. Nobody cares about what you know, till you show them what you have done.
The ONLY time TechLead isn't sarcastic, is when he is doing a sponsorship.
Thank you very much
I was mess up and depressed and so confused before watching this video
This video clear my whole confusion. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for taking your time to educate us so much.
Just wondering, what do you think of Joshua Fluke's content? Is it accurate?
Great stuff, great overview
This video really helped me set clear goals and understand what I actually want to do. Thank you.
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Beautiful Techlead, very informative.
The topic of this video was that I want you to record, thanks.
I am an Ex-Google TechLead - TechLead
Always in every video
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Thank you very much for this wonderful advice. Now I know which stuff to tackle first.
Good point! It's easy to fall into the trap of trying to learn EVERYTHING.
I just got accepted into an SE apprentice. Stepping into the tech would be highly interested. Been an personal trainer for 8 yrs wanted to change and challenge myself. Cant wait to see what happen next in this new chapter
Hows everything been going? its been 3 years.
Howâs the hosts doing ?
Thanks techlead for the guidance
It's your host, the tech lead, The Tech Lead.
One major area you didn't mention is embedded engineering. I think it's great fun! I'm happiest when I have an oscilloscope and power supply on my desk, hooked up to a $2000 board with very small chips on it. FPGAs, DSPs, all kinds of inter-chip and inter-board buses and protocols. It's not for everyone, of course.
More of a job stemming from an EE degree...
And keep in mind there are TONS of jobs in the "old industry": energy, health, aeronautics, defense, transport, finance, etc.
Web/mobile/game apps are a huge thing but... a whole world exists outside :-)
Amazon is developing a neat video game actually. New World is in closed Alpha I believe.
Edit: actually they ended the alpha, I was wrong
Web dev seems like a great start and probably the easiest way to get the ball rolling and keep you on track while you keep working to your ideal path, much better than a non tech job hoping some day you will land your dream job by firing off dry resumes.
Great video man, insightful!
Hi Techlead, awesome video as always (
@@vitalymarkov7857 Hmm, thanks for the clarification!
I wish maybe he went over careers related to Software Engineers that you can make a switch to. Maybe more business oriented?
Exactly!, it was those alternatives higher management roles post the software engineer career phase that I expected him to touch on here.
Hey bro ,are you software engineer?
Best intro to tech video so far.
Ah. Wonderful. Had a good laugh. Quality material!
The word "Techlead" has been repeated "5" Five times in "9" nine seconds..Wow.. guess another hidden record đ đ
Dang, why did he not mention Cloud careers? AWS, Azure, Google Cloud, etc.
he did that is devOPs
Sir, is he Vietnamese?
Who cares about these products ? An ordinary person, comes, spends 2 days on learning them, uses what they need. That's it. Do not attach yourself to proprietary tech, in 2 years you will find yourself completely outdated. Reason, these techs change rapidly and with no warning. No point.
@@swojnowski453 you can easily get a job specialized on dev ops. Sure you want to be able to use resources from multiple specific providers, but knowing how to manage cloud infrastructure in general is very valuable right now. (Although admittedly, it is a specialized position so youâd probably have to find jobs at larger companies or contracting gigs)
your videos are an eye opener. Really worth looking
I was confused on where to start but now i know i'm going to started on learning Swift and Objective C to become an IOS developer. Thank you Tech Lead
Dont learn Objective C. Focus on Swift.
Make a video about distributed systems, map reduce.
Nice video. I have always found backend development to be much easier than front end development đ. There are few reasons to why I say that. 1. You have no control over the execution environment as a front end engineer but you do have control in the back end. You have no idea what browser the user will select to run your app but you can always use a specific runtime in the backend with a specific OS. 2. Aside from persistence, batching, and orchestration, most of the backend concerns have shifted to the front end these days. Concerns such as state management, session hydration, security are now every days concerns due to the fact we are in a Javascript heavy front end era. There is very little difference between mobile dev and front-end dev. Actually all the concepts are now interchangeable. I think it's beyond just a "rendering layer". This is of course, just an opinion.
For mobile engineer, you can use a language like Flutter which allows for one code base on both platforms, as well as web development too
Thanks Tech Lead for your suggestions , it is really helpful