Lost in Vivo - The Story Explained
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- Lost in Vivo is a horror game that covers a patient's journey through vivo exposure therapy and the fears within their mind. In this video we explain the story of Lost in Vivo as well as a theory relating to the meaning behind it. We also look at the monsters explained too. So sit back, relax and let's take a journey into the mind...
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I was really touched by the note the protagonist leaves talking about how the player urges her onwards. It's rare for a game to make me feel like we really impacted somebody so personally and deeply. Well done by the developer.
My phone's name is Vivo
@ok me too
The notes are not from the protagonist it’s just from random people
The developer actually made spookys jumpscare mansion before it
Akuma Kira just pops off man
Not to mention Vivo means "in a living being" or "in something alive". So "Lost in Vivo" literally means "Lost in a living being", which fits in cleanly with most of this theory.
Vivo means alive in Spanish, which makes the title much better, people here say he's alive, está vivo, did that example to let you understand it better.
Living means viviendo, but living being would be, ser vivo, which is also a good translation
Vivo means alive in spanish.
Wich then could mean that you are "lost in life". That could be similar to saying to be "dead in life".
But yes it refers to a living being.
But can also refer to be on live. Like in a concert or stream.
So basicly the game is about someone lost in life and going to the therapist for help
@@Prommetheus.Epimmetheus Yeah basically
@@superwaffle9312 Ah I see
I think the nightmare ending is also a representation of the character going too far into their therapy journey, breaking them mentally. The murky environment(so-called heaven) is now no different from the manhole(hell) they came out of. This journey has only shown our character the worst, making them believe that there isn't or won't be a good ending(an end to their suffering/trauma).
edit: too deep as in she couldn't mentally handle her fears thus instead of coming out of the journey as a changed person she returns the same as before, suffering from the same traumas. It doesn't matter how deep she went already because if she isn't mentally prepared for it, that is what will break her.
wow
Interesting
Personally, I see the Nightmare ending in a thematical sense as the protagonist misinterpreting the lessons learned from her therapy (possibly due to not approaching it from a mindset of hope, but self-loathing desperation) and coming out more paranoid, cynical and hateful. Imo, it′d be weird for the game to spread the message that "it can be hard and horrifying, but delving into your mind, facing your fears and finding hope despite your inner demons is important and will lead to a better life in the end," and then say "but don′t delve TOO deep!" would be kinda contradictory to the message, seeing how deep the protagonist went already.
Very interesting interpretation that does work with what is provided in the nightmare ending. I do agree with that perhaps the journey of confronting the personal turn the "heaven" and "hell" of the protagonist essentially the same. However, I do think that it coincides with the protagonist embracing the "worst" of herself, that the fears, monsters and the "hell" that once was thought as worst and need to be eliminate (overcome) had become the "heaven" or the good the protagonist is seeking for at the end of the tunnel. The sacrifice to summon bayogota, in this case, serves 2 purposes as: 1. to connect the mythology or world building from the first game to this game by the same developer but also 2. to show the descend of the protagonist into cult, rituals, and taboo of actions (symbolise by the protagnoist willingness to sacrifice a child skull or figuratively a child after overcoming the trauma of her malnuture her child/fetus, perhaps she feel that death of her baby as a sacrifice with this new found thinking as a conclusion at the end of the journey?). Differ from the other bad endings where the inability to overcome her fears ends with bleak and sadness of the scenery still viewing what's in the sewers / her worst monsters as terrifying and horrible, she now embraces the darkness no longer just staying but more so merging with the darkness. Probably the protagonist will go on a killing spree after the nightmare ending as indicating by the text that show up that membranes drip from the sky and suffocate the landscape. (perhaps the killing blinds the surroundings and the protagonist no longer could go back into the sewer to the good end) At the end, this is just an interpretation as the game is present the message as more symbolic than literal, so take it with a grain of salt.
@@speedslider3913 not going too deep is an actual thing. That point isnt contradictory its true
I like how when you say claustrophobic you show footage of a monster giant head and arms first is following the player into the small room in order to scare the viewer.
It scared me 😭😭 My siblings were playing with balloons and one popped too! 😭😭😭
I really don't think the lab part is reality, it seems to be a representation of the fear of the hospital, with possible malpractice themes. The nightmare ending could be a reference to falling into either psychosis, or being vulnerable to cult indoctrination, as cults target those who are vulnerable and exploit their trauma and/or isolation.
If your city doesn't have a hospital in your sewers you're not living in a real city.
Agree (hospital-lab theory). There's a big issue with people with mental illnesses refusing to accept they're sick/that they need help and it does seem to be what is represented there
If that is the case maybe they HEARD of Generic Labs (yes the actual name of the company) thus that is why it is here
@@dbk-red-son Honestly cant blame anyone for thinking like that. My Uncle was best buddys with a guy who was in the army. It seems something bad happened there to him.
Years later he was taken to a mental hospital. He came out as what my uncle called a "living vegetable". He said he lost all his personality and joy. He was just functioning for work.
Scene Selection
0:00 - Intro
0:35 - The Premise
1:33 - The Story & Meaning Explained
24:27 - The Good Ending
26:58 - The Bad Endings
28:27 - The Nightmare Ending
31:04 - Outro
thx
It's kinda crazy how Mike actually spoke about this game in a older video
thank you man.
The toxic lover(s) and loss of child traumas hit WAY too close to home, but it warmed my heart to hear you discuss them calmly like that, and as part of her healing process, and that it’s symbolically hard to get to the point of acceptance. Keep up the good work Mike!
Boo Hoo
@@williamgriskell7752 can I help you Hon?
@@EmmyLayton Very Unlikely
@@EmmyLayton They only want attention, just ignore that person. Comfort can be found in weird or tiny places, but is still comfort!
@@noreingravity yes sure, the guy who wrote 2 meaningless words wants attention, not the person who somehow found a way to insert the news that they had toxic lovers and lost a child in a video not about them.
Fun fact: in the Nezumi Testing logo, the "N" in Nezumi and "esting" in testing are underlined, if you put both of the underlined sections together, it spells "Nesting". This is most likely to show the "nesting" of the monsters in the labs we go through in the game.
Just to add on, "nezumi" is "rat/mouse" in Japanese. Makes it seem like a pun on both the rat test subjects, and for "rat's nest", a place that's excessively complicated and disorderly, much like the goings on in the area (or the protag's mental state.)
If you look at the parts that aren't underlined, it says "ezumit" which is actually completely meaningless.
@@Dogman_35 XD
What if the brains comments are actually from the protagonist’s ex? That would explain why it sounds male in voice and constantly berates the protagonist. Also what if the thing that only attacks when you’re not looking from the lab (forgot the name) represents how the protagonist views random people, perfectly docile when she sees them but then they become violent monsters and attack her (probably stemming from her fear of what others think about her)
That makes a lot of sense, I agree!
Did anyone notice that Nezumi Testing actually says Nesting when underlined
Nope, where can I see it?
@@lauragrigoletto906 when he goes to the lab at the entrance
YES, i just commented that xD
Yup
Yes I did
This game really hits home for me I used to be in her same situation and I’ve overcome it but still the thoughts and words of what others said still lingers cause of the strong emotion that spewed out with said words 💜
Yup.
You need to be strong
Yup
perhaps kit was the case of one of akuma kira team members
I know this comment was over a year ago but I hope your doing well ❤
I think you misinterpreted the notes. Our protagonist, meant to be a husk for the player, is still gender neutral. The notes belong to the ghost girl (AKA Jane Exspiravit) according to the wiki. As we see in the gallery, her as the enemy and the white silhouette are the same. If the patient endured HER own trauma, it's because they're living the vivo of everyone. And Jane, decided to save them by blocking the train because they teached her to accept herself. Also, the 'orbs of light' are considered 'ghosts'.
It's all just theories, fans can't know for sure what is true, it's all speculations
@@kylethewolf
Actually, the creator did confirm it in an interview that he haved with a fan of the game, you'r not the one leaving the notes, but the one meeting with someone that was in a similar situation as you, and that you weren't alone through all the pain and problems during all the game.
Well I’m the player and a girl so the player is a girl, mystery solved
@@marciegalo i know it's supposed to be a joke, but It's just anyone
So... everything in this video is worng
I have an interesting question: does anyone else feel like the voice of protag's brain is actually the voice of her toxic ex? The tone and the choice wording/phrasing ("I know you better than anyone, and I know you're weak/You'll come right back") sounds an awful lot like him to me
Perhaps it could be that the gaslighting of the boyfriend to the protagonist has been so ingrained that it plays out like a radio from her brain, so yeah could be.
I love games like this its so great to see protagonists recover from trauma
It breaks my heart whenever any animals in games and shows get hurt. It hurts even more then seeing humans getting killed :(
Weirdo
It’s like a child being murdered.
@@4xoen.0 your weirdo
furry
@@QWERTY-gp8fd bruh
This game reminds me of EMDR therapy for PTSD. You have to confront your feelings, triggers and emotions and then it gets replaced with stronger bonds, acceptance and better memories. It’s really tough work and a few people I know weren’t able to finish it. Sometimes if you’re not able to complete it it can leave you worse for wear but if you’re willing to work on yourself you will see progress.
I remember when the game was about the story of someome who had to find it's lost dog and the idea that the dog was just something from it's own imagination, didn't expect it to get this dark
The ruger .22 target pistol is such an oddly specific choice, I feel it has to represent something, but I’ve no idea what. Was is just the lowest caliber pistol the dev could find, so they could make it deal low damage? I don’t know, but it’s super strange to me.
i mean there are a lot of other low caliber pistols it could have been a Mauser
@@sassas1487 I agree, it’s just the only explanation I could think of.
I mean, the only other firearm you have is a anti-riot shotgun with salt-rock shells. I think Kira just didn't want the player to have too much firepower. Perhaps it could represent how weak the protagonist feels against her own fears
The Ruger Standard (the model is mostly the Mark 2) is a super common pistol. It being in .22 long is just because it’s a super SUPER common round.
If you wanna take everything as allegory it’s possible it represents the player owning a firearm, perhaps for self defense due to whatever incident they’ve suffered. but being unsure and unfamiliar with it and causing it to jam on the few times they practice with it, leading them to view it as “damaged.”
The riot shotgun might indicate past experiences with protesting and police reactions.
@@sassas1487 when you say Mauser do you meant the C96? Cause both the proper Mauser and 9mil Luger rounds aren’t exactly low caliber.
Great analysis, although I can't help but notice that you didn't really find a way to integrate the whole laboratory part into the psyche of the protagonist, either. Perhaps it really is separate and a real occurrence. Or perhaps we're still missing something.
Make sure to cover Lunacid as well. It’s made by the same developer.
None of the tapes are connected to the main story at all besides tape 1, the developer confirmed so. I always thought the ghost girl was the one writing the notes.
Even though I knew nothing about this game prior to watching this, I still enjoyed this video so much! I love all your story explained videos, some of them have even become my comfort videos haha!!
The laboratory name can also be read as a "Rat's nest". if you look closely, the N in "nezumi" and ESTING in "testing" are underscored, if we combine the 2 we read NESTING, and also, Nezumi means Rat in japanese, so I guess that's what the developers were going with there
Dr Piccinini is very likely meant as a reference too, to Patricia Piccinini, who makes some very interesting grotesque artworks of animal-like creatures with human-like skin.
Every time you make a new video, I always watch all the way through and enjoy the entire thing. Your videos are amazing. Keep up the great work!
Actually the notes were left by Jane not the protagonist, Jane is the one who had an eating disorder and choose to end her own life after her boyfriend left her.
I remember playing a version of this in front chat with three friends and among other things of playing games with close friends you can imagine the dumb stuff we did with it, one including running down a pipe screaming “are you winning son!?” And pointing out that the we’re not looking for our dinner, rather we just found it and went, you’re name is dinner
Wow..
Hits home, so much-
Especially the body positivity part, I’ve always hated a certain area of my body, not going to say what part, and it just hit me hard.
Also, paranoia/ schizophrenia area is quite a hard-hitter. Just the first note shown that got me.
Us trans folks with heavy dysphoria all got hit like a truck by that part
@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Hope your doing okay today
Hey man. Hope you're doing ok. I hate to hear this sort of thing. I myself have and do suffer from disphoria, and it's something no one should ever feel, I believe. Take care of yourself, and stay safe. You're amazing.
@@soaringspirits2267 thank you
I hope you’re doing well too and that you won’t have to deal with that any longer
It took me awhile to realize that the GL Labs in this game was the same in spooky's jumpscare mansion I was so confused why the names were the same
If you check credits and scroll down, you can see a name "Mr. Kravin" as a Dog Handler, If you didn't know, Mr Kravin is a youtuber who played a lot of horror games and the Dog is in fact Mr Kravin Pet Corgi, Also there's the mersus tapes DLC which is made by Mr. Kravin himself if i guessed it right
The notes in the subway are not from the protagonist I actually believe every single note is not from the protagonist. but in the subway it’s from a ghost girl that killed herself on the train and that’s why you heard that scream. and she thought the baby that she had was a parasite so she killed herself and that ghost girl is what chases you in the subway.
As someone who played this game back in January of 2019, I'm amazed at how many things in the game have been updated and added.
I wasn't fully paying attention to the lab name but it's foreshadowing
Nezumi means rat in Japanese
personally, i think the labs symbolized how she felt as if her partner was her "savior", given that sotiris means "salvation" and she felt as if her partner was her savior since they made her feel good about herself for once, and then the monsters represent their abusive nature towards her. and i think as far as the eyes go, since she was let out when she found them, that could be her realization, or her partner seeing they dont love her, and the false ending could be her feeling of escape leaving when said partner left her.
This is all reminding me of when my friends tried to get me over my fears I did get over a few but the rest of them got worse I am no longer friends with them anymore because they use to make fun of it :/ ( this video is good by the way and sorry for the personal things )
I’m so sorry :( I’m glad your no longer friends with them because they don’t sound like true friends. I hope your better now and find people that accept you :) 💗💗💗
You’re stronger than you know. It’s also natural to end up parting ways during different times of your life especially while young and you’re figuring out who you are. Sometimes people just grow apart as you are going on entirely new paths .I am sure you are going to get through this. It’s so hard when you lose friends, but it’s going to get so much better for you when you find the right people. Your old social circle doesn’t sound like people you wanna surround yourself with or true friends. True friends lift you up , not push you down .
Good things are coming if they’re not already here for you. Take care of yourself. :) xo
This is why I like this channel, shb isn't one of those tubers who says their version of a theory is fact.
My personal interpretation is the story was about the ghost girl and we the player are a manifestation of sorts of her and we're helping her move on.
Petition for Mike to review _"The Hex"_ next. It's another game made by Daniel Mullins and is supposedly in The Same Canon as Inscryption.
I would love to see your interpretation and possibly even gameplay of it.
I love how you cover games that are new, old, and everything in between
The second area could relate to capgras syndrome, which makes you think that other people have been replaced by impostors.
Among us?
A Note on a toilet that man had really hard time spilling things out 💀
Me: Ah...I'm in the mood for something horror but I've overplayed what I own...
CZcams: New SuperHorrorBro video.
Me: Perfect!
GL Labs : _"Who are you ???"_
Nezumi Testing : _"I'm you but we create our own monsters instead of capturing them !"_
idk why i just love how gentle and calm his voice is
The shoes belonging to the girl had a yellow ribbon on them, so I believe she may have had bone cancer, which could have been her reason for stepping in front of the train, but I may also be thinking too much about this as well.
For the lab portion of the game I thought that it could do with the trauma of having to trial medications to help the protagonist with their health. A lot of mentally ill people, especially those with harsher mental illnesses, often talk about how hard it is to find a good medication specifically tailored to them with little to no side effects. You even mentioned in your Fran Bow video how they were treating her as a lab rat with different types of meds, just throwing them at Fran and seeing if anything stuck.
The only way this possible theory gets debunked is because of the monsters and reference to GL Labs. GL Labs being responsible for some of the monsters in Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion is proof that Dr. Picinini wasn't just one mad scientist who happened to work in conjunction with GL Labs, meaning his monster isn't just some one-off. This, in my opinion, means that the lab section is more likely something more than symbolism. There's possibly only one other theory to explain this:
Everything in Vivo Exposure Therapy is real. The protagonist is, in fact, facing REAL dangers. I don't believe it was mentioned anywhere that this was a simulation therapy for the protagonist. Though there are some plotholes for this as well, I believe it makes a bit more sense in reference to the lab section. I believe GL Labs regularly creates abominations and just does about anything they want with them. Perhaps they extended into medicine as well as psychiatry to find more use for their monsters. I believe when Vivo Exposure Therapy is offered to someone, it's offered under the guise of a simulation treatment, when it is actually real. I don't believe the protagonist was meant to find the labs, much less come to know to much about Bayagototh. There is one damning piece of evidence against this though, at that is the Maggoty Coffin reffering to the other sections being about other people. Still though, I think it's an interesting theory to play with
The trial medications theory is one I can agree with. I’m still fighting my battle with that personally, it’s rough and it sucks. But it’s gonna get there, I hope if you’re going through it too it’s getting easier for you 💛
@@EmmyLayton I'm sorry youre going through that, I hope you can find a medication that helps soon, or balance and stability at the very least. You deserve to thrive, not just mentally but in all facets of life ❤
@@olioliveoliver1513 the same for you love ❤️
“Mirage of Beagototh the Starving Old One” sounds like a Yugioh card.
15:50
This notes reminds me of the blind guy at the beginning.
This game was very well done, your breakdown really makes the games meaning really show.
Finally I've waited for this for soooooo long and it's finally here
0:40 "developer Kira"
That explains why it's a horror game
I just wanted to point out that the Ratmen look a lot like this character from Zdzisław Beksiński's painting "crawling death", which also can link to the Black Death with was caused by rats so that just a little detail that I like very much!
Gotta give props for explaining the whole thing including the tapes.
OMG LETS GO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR 3 YEARS THANK YOU
this is my first time hearing about this game, and wow it left me devastated. I've similarly struggled very heavily with bulimia and childhood trauma. It is very nice to see the protagonist make it out in the good ending, kind of gives me hope for myself :'). I haven't fully healed yet, but I'm doing my best to work towards it
Man it seems like everyone loves Dante's Inferno now-a-days!
Vivo means life in Spanish. This means the title is “lost in life.” This represents how MC is trying to find a way to fix her life and way of thinking, essentially being lost in life.
Been waiting for this one!
I would love it if you played and made more story explained video for games like this
No matter how it is depicted, lost in vivo will always be my favourite horror game.
I would consider this a masterpiece the symbolism & hidden meaning they did so well 🙌💗
thank you for making this i love you
By following the loose Dante's Inferno reference, does that essentially make Danny Beatrice?
Nice I couldn't understand the story so thank you for explaining
Omg, I’ve been waiting for this!
I like the small detail where the name of the lab has the underlined words "Nesting"
finally someone noticed thank you
I like the references to spookys jumpscare mansion! It's both cool and funny because spookys jumpscare mansion is littered with Easter eggs and references to other classic horror games
damn, so many updates were made to this game. i remember it as going into the sewers to find your doggy, i didn’t realize how much more was added and how deep the story was. Psychological horror games like this, Silent Hill and Alice Madness Returns that have heavy symbolism, weird creatures and a deep story are my absolute favourite. Also really love the little Lovecraftian creature bayagototh, i adore hp lovecraft.
As someone who suffered from bulimia for a period of time the symbolism the game used for it and overcoming it hit way to hard. I get seen and understood in a way I didn’t know I needed
The calm music from the save areas remind me of saving a game in resident evil 4.
I was just listening to a Playlist of horror game music on CZcams and found this game.
Now this is the kind of horror game I would love to have and play
I like to think the eyeless man in the start is her dad, and himlosing his eyes are a figure of speech for him losing sight of things, and we hurt him out of fear and hurt him when he's trying to return
I’m not usually super scared or disturbed by horror games but this one really got me scared
I like how Nexumi Testing are underlined, well, specifically the letters in them, making the word "Nesting". It was a disturbing and creepy nesting ground for the doctors (or scientists) creation's . Nice.
I like the detail at each ending where the manhole you climb towards to escape changes in a way depending on your choice.
It symbolizes an eclipse, when you just begin the game then quickly escape back up it shows more than half the manhole covered and it's still foggy, whereas recovering the dog and your characters sanity the manhole revels to be completely open and its sunny
as for the Nightmare sequence as you begin leaving the manhole you see the night sky instead. . .
Best and by far the MOST underrated horror game out there
I love how you could cap the dog
My thoughts on this is that the sewers might be a specimen like 7 from Spooky's that creates nightmares based on the victims traumas and fears.
It's funny, considering the dev for this game actually made SJM, and you can actually find Specimen 8 in the form of an easter egg within the game.
I remember seeing this game around 2016 and it was the first time me and my brother talked to a streamer.
If you want to play a really scary game, play "you are grounded". That one deals with parental abuse and has one of the most scad (scary sad) moments in a horror game.
Mate, don't use the word 'scad'. It sounds too much like scat, that's gross. Just say scary & sad, you don't gotta smash every single descriptor word together, you ain't gonna come up with the next smad joke
Thanks for the advice.
Fun fact- the shoes have a ribbon tied to them, showing an overcoming to domestic violence/abuse.
I have been waiting for this
I still wonder what is the meaning (if there is any) of the Rat Mother in the sewers and the Winged Man, especially in the Dark Mode.
Great video man!
16:26 If you read the underlined letters, they spell the word NESTING
I really like you,re videos iven if i was gone for so long
Fun fact for all the new viewers Mike has actually briefly covered the ghost girl before on the channel in scariest ghost girl encounters in video games
Every time I think of Virgil in Dante's Inferno, I keep remembering a line from an episode of the British Firefighting drama, London's Burning.
"Yeah, him and the rest of the Thunderbird crew..."
-Firefight Bertram "Sicknote" Quigley
am i the only one weirded out that "Nezumi's Testing" logo underlines the "N" and the "Esting" combining the 2 into to nesting?
Idk what that means 😕
@@frankcraft4743 me neither
I think it rest
I really need to remember not to watch these at night. I somehow keep forgetting this is a horror channel...
the person behind this game is a horror genius really top notch
I LOVE THE GOOD ENDING BROO THE DOG IS SO CUTEEEE
Low key such a sad and meaningful game.
Sotiris is like the deadly peanut from S.C.P.
A thought - do you think the name “Brundle” is a reference to the movie “The Fly”? There seems to be a theme of insects in this game and I thought that was fun
6:12 I was born on February 16th 2007. And my nickname is dante. Just a funny coincidence I had thought to mention.
Virgil was Dante’s guide through hell and purgatory. I’m surprised you didn’t mention that considering your other references to the poems.
If superhorrorbro make Easter egg video on Lost in Vivo i will give him a another like.
I love your voice, so I'll put on your videos to fall asleep to, and apparently I didn't finish this one before I had to get up. So I clicked back on it to see a 3D, 8-bit fetus squirming on an alter. Beautiful.
I love spooky jumpscares and i love this game this person soo creative! they made great games
0:00 Intro
0:35 Premise
1:33 Story & Meaning Explained
24:27 Good Ending
26:59 The Bad Endings
28:27 Nightmare Ending
31:04 Outro
Persona 5 is kinda similar in terms of mental rebirth because of the phantom thieves of hearts entering the hearts of corrupt adults and rarely little kids, stealing the source aka the 'treasure' of the corrupt desires and eventually confronting the source of the corruption
POV: You haven't played Strikers (Unless the rarely was talking about the total of *two* times they do, Alibaba [Spoiler guard!] and The Misguided One [Spoiler guard +!])
I got lost in Vivo. It's a surprisingly solid film
Ikr
I get claustrophobia because my father has it but my dad fears it in a unique way if someone touches him say a bus or train he will warn that person but if it happens again he will panic and start punching the air by air i mean half of the time the person