I love Aristotle . He says prisons are pointless the reason for bad people is because the teachers are teaching them wrong morals and values and if they had a better leader they would be better people. Totally genius
@@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423I believe it might mean that Plato believed that everything was a representation of something true but Aristotle believed that everything as it is is true and anything else is a representation of it.
@@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423I can’t see what I’m writing on my phone because of this annoying glitch that CZcams has with long names but I hope that kind of makes sense and I hope anyone will correct me or say it better if they can because that is only just my perception of what was meant
lots of people smarter than me but ive began to realise in my life that debating and asking questions is very important and healthy, i think its insane im saying this in 2023 yet majority of people i meet take offence to questions and my or anyones elses opinions that challenge there own, in my experiences even if im 100% research backed certain they will still take offence and disregard you because of the small minded social repercussions in there head of accepting their wrong however petty it may be, im not a petty person and in fact id really like to make clear and understand it isnt from superiority complex but to actually teach and togethor we become more intelligent and there is excellent feeling from sharing knowledge and educating being educated and learning something intimatly But a phrase always comes back in my head and i truly understand it now a younger me stuggled Dont argue with stupid people becauae no one will know the difference Ive deferred my own translation from that quote and its fuck em why do i care sad the world ive had to live in and i dont care what people think anyway but no matter how much i say it or anyone else we all do care about what other think to some extend whether we want to accept it or not ❤ sorry i done ****
Unfortunately in India philosophy doesn’t create enough jobs so government closed the academics and said your business not worthy enough to being good man if you can’t afford life which you are born in. However being father of 4 year boy I will teach my son aristotle hoping that he will wise person in ruthless world.
These guys lived at the beginning of the timeline of when Human perception was starting to be questioned, as an absolute validity. Of course none of our speculations on what exists beyond our perception is demonstrable. Plato first, along with other philosophers cooked up an idea and belief to explain things, and Aristotle merely broke with him only to the extent he modified it. Both of them have a similar theory.
Why doesn’t he share Plato’s Beliefs? It’s probably easier to understand if u know! He’s literally describing the three types of humans of hermetic texts. Hermes trismegistus. Read or listen to all 17 chapters and study it’… Why would u not speak of the all and not give praise. Plato’s was a believer and a true soul of the all. The eternal ancestor
Galactic motions follow the forms of chaos math, and many other things seem to at least follow non linear chaos math forms---Does this mean there is a metaphysical reality? =????
Aristotle, clearly. Plato continued the Pythagorean and Socratic idea of the eternal-by-nature soul, which led into Plotinus' insanity about returning to The One. These are some of the worst ideas to ever influence the West. Aristotle was more a materialist, who believed man was a composite of body & soul, not a soul trapped in a fleshly prison or clay cell.
Plato points up "This is what's real for real" ~ Soul. Aristotle says No, "This is what's real for real" ~ The Physical world. - This is why they say we live in an Aristotelian world. Plato was right though as the physical world is but the Post-Conscious residue of Dreams ~ Soul.
Plato is great in writing rhetoric and dialectic however his beliefs must be taken with a grain of salt. as should aristotles' as well. the slight on painters and poets is something that has always made me in an uproar.
Paintings arre a form of propaganda. Check Rafael's Escuola Greco. It shows Plato and Aristotle at the center among other illustrious discoverers. Plato is painted with Da Vinci's face. This theme is fought and contested over to this day in the Western world. The seeds are deeper than religion seeping throughout all facets of our society from politics to science to religion itself. The elites favour and promote Aristoteleanism.
If statue of 5 person were presented to you, how much would you be say about them? Nothing. Then what is "Form comes from you" argument even supposed to mean? Form is just form, a better form is helpful but that's about it. Form doesn't even remotely describe the person. Might even give false perception of people as well, if we were to seek some pattern.
Uhmmmm..... Both are metaphysics so it can not be proven anyway. Both are undemonstrable and unprovable. At best interesting suggestions or observations, but nothing which can be really tested.
Would the question “how was the universe created” be regarded as metaphysical? I ask because I frequently here that it is indeed a metaphysical question, but hasn’t physics answered it through the Big Bang theory and the preceding vacuum of quantum energy?
@@leo32190 I don't think Physics has answered it with certainty. It is a theory with least no. of loopholes than other proposed theories. So it is widely accepted.
They are being constantly contested in the Western world up to this day. The elites prefer Aristotle and suppress the Platonists. Yet as much as they try, however slow the progress is, with each couple of centuries or so, in small steps, it is Aristotle who is being proven limiting for humans and thus downright wrong.
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I love Aristotle . He says prisons are pointless the reason for bad people is because the teachers are teaching them wrong morals and values and if they had a better leader they would be better people. Totally genius
It's good to be mentally healthy
I didn't understood anything from the short 😅
Can you explain ?
@@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423I believe it might mean that Plato believed that everything was a representation of something true but Aristotle believed that everything as it is is true and anything else is a representation of it.
@@sitproperlywhilewatchingph423I can’t see what I’m writing on my phone because of this annoying glitch that CZcams has with long names but I hope that kind of makes sense and I hope anyone will correct me or say it better if they can because that is only just my perception of what was meant
lots of people smarter than me but ive began to realise in my life that debating and asking questions is very important and healthy, i think its insane im saying this in 2023 yet majority of people i meet take offence to questions and my or anyones elses opinions that challenge there own, in my experiences even if im 100% research backed certain they will still take offence and disregard you because of the small minded social repercussions in there head of accepting their wrong however petty it may be, im not a petty person and in fact id really like to make clear and understand it isnt from superiority complex but to actually teach and togethor we become more intelligent and there is excellent feeling from sharing knowledge and educating being educated and learning something intimatly
But a phrase always comes back in my head and i truly understand it now a younger me stuggled
Dont argue with stupid people becauae no one will know the difference
Ive deferred my own translation from that quote and its fuck em why do i care sad the world ive had to live in and i dont care what people think anyway but no matter how much i say it or anyone else we all do care about what other think to some extend whether we want to accept it or not ❤ sorry i done ****
i would say debating is useless when done without aim, you cannot get people to agree with you
Two guys who threw around suggestions 😂 years later: smartest beings of all time.
Aristotle.
Philosophy just describes the thing. But it isn’t the thing itself.
Philosophy is in every aspect of everything.
@@ShaharIshog-lx7pi Plato’s cave. Philosophy is the shadows on the wall
I thought Plato was colored clay that comes in containers for kids.
no that's play doh. Plato is where you eat your food
Oops, I goofed. Thank you for correcting me. 🤣@@ff-qc7qy
No, that's a plate. Plato is a high but flat area within mountain height.
It’s far too salty for my taste.
@@rilpergonien_officialno that’s a plateau, Plato is that well known thrift shopping franchise where you can find trendy clothes.
Unfortunately in India philosophy doesn’t create enough jobs so government closed the academics and said your business not worthy enough to being good man if you can’t afford life which you are born in. However being father of 4 year boy I will teach my son aristotle hoping that he will wise person in ruthless world.
Dope af
What a poor understanding of Plato
The form originates in the active intellect for Aristotle
You should put episode link in comments were lazy af
Jesus is smarter than both.
What came first the chicken or the form of the chicken
The form of the form of the form of the chicken
The form of the chicken is eternal
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They arise simultaneously. Each is implicit in the other.
These guys lived at the beginning of the timeline of when Human perception was starting to be questioned, as an absolute validity. Of course none of our speculations on what exists beyond our perception is demonstrable. Plato first, along with other philosophers cooked up an idea and belief to explain things, and Aristotle merely broke with him only to the extent he modified it. Both of them have a similar theory.
Why doesn’t he share Plato’s Beliefs? It’s probably easier to understand if u know!
He’s literally describing the three types of humans of hermetic texts.
Hermes trismegistus.
Read or listen to all 17 chapters and study it’…
Why would u not speak of the all and not give praise. Plato’s was a believer and a true soul of the all. The eternal ancestor
Plato makes sense to me, Aristotle doesn’t…
Aristotle is preferred by the elites because it promotes their hierarchy, their status quo, and slows progress.
Galactic motions follow the forms of chaos math, and many other things seem to at least follow non linear chaos math forms---Does this mean there is a metaphysical reality? =????
Aristotle, clearly. Plato continued the Pythagorean and Socratic idea of the eternal-by-nature soul, which led into Plotinus' insanity about returning to The One. These are some of the worst ideas to ever influence the West. Aristotle was more a materialist, who believed man was a composite of body & soul, not a soul trapped in a fleshly prison or clay cell.
The elites have always preferred Aristotle. I wonder why.
Plato points up "This is what's real for real" ~ Soul. Aristotle says No, "This is what's real for real" ~ The Physical world. - This is why they say we live in an Aristotelian world. Plato was right though as the physical world is but the Post-Conscious residue of Dreams ~ Soul.
Aristotle
Egg cracking against egg shell
Plato is great in writing rhetoric and dialectic however his beliefs must be taken with a grain of salt. as should aristotles' as well. the slight on painters and poets is something that has always made me in an uproar.
Paintings arre a form of propaganda. Check Rafael's Escuola Greco. It shows Plato and Aristotle at the center among other illustrious discoverers. Plato is painted with Da Vinci's face. This theme is fought and contested over to this day in the Western world. The seeds are deeper than religion seeping throughout all facets of our society from politics to science to religion itself. The elites favour and promote Aristoteleanism.
plato is the most overrated philosopher of all time
Plato's rhetoric is whats impressive. But his ideas--- are controversial at the least.
🤔 some hidden history 👃
Plato was the Best!
Aristotle hit him like a Little horse!
If statue of 5 person were presented to you, how much would you be say about them? Nothing.
Then what is "Form comes from you" argument even supposed to mean?
Form is just form, a better form is helpful but that's about it. Form doesn't even remotely describe the person.
Might even give false perception of people as well, if we were to seek some pattern.
Not big on Aristotle and I’m a Platonist
Pluto is that your side hobby?
Boraaaaa
Take shrooms you'll get it
Aristotle was more pragmatic.
Plato is sht😀
Uhmmmm..... Both are metaphysics so it can not be proven anyway. Both are undemonstrable and unprovable. At best interesting suggestions or observations, but nothing which can be really tested.
Would the question “how was the universe created” be regarded as metaphysical? I ask because I frequently here that it is indeed a metaphysical question, but hasn’t physics answered it through the Big Bang theory and the preceding vacuum of quantum energy?
@@leo32190
I don't think Physics has answered it with certainty.
It is a theory with least no. of loopholes than other proposed theories. So it is widely accepted.
They are being constantly contested in the Western world up to this day. The elites prefer Aristotle and suppress the Platonists. Yet as much as they try, however slow the progress is, with each couple of centuries or so, in small steps, it is Aristotle who is being proven limiting for humans and thus downright wrong.