How IHeartJustice makes Phoenix Wright Top Tier
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- čas přidán 1. 02. 2023
- Today we're taking a look at Phoenix Wright in Marvel vs Capcom 3, with special guest IHeartJustice! IHJ is without a doubt the strongest Phoenix Wright player in the umvc3 scene, with numerous tournament placings using the humble lawyer. Let's discuss how the character works, what makes him unique, and then play some matches where we can see these insane turnabout setups and combos in practice!
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It's so wild that IHeartJustice's inspiration to play that team is literally "I like Ace Attorney" and "Captain America is a good guy", like barely anything gameplay oriented lmao
I do miss the days of playing characters you like rather then what is considered top.
Is how I play all my games
@@ReikuYin my brother in christ ever since back then people played top tiers
@@ReikuYin there wasnt a time where that happens, you are just talking about people playing casually
@@ReikuYin "remember when we liked losing?"
I love how his team is just an elementary school’s career day panel. A lawyer, a doctor, and a soldier.
Wow.
With the one kid that says wizard
"To be top tier you have to wear a trenchcoat"
*GUMSHOE HAS APPEARED*
YO I'd love that
He should have been used in a super haha
“Mr. Edgeworth may have cut my salary, but I’m gonna cut you in *two* ”
"To be top tier, you have to wear a trenchcoat in this game."
Unless your name is Zero.
hey pal you are going to die now.
People may think that Phoenix is only good with max meter, but they're wrong. They just need to play Phoenix *Right.*
dad joke
@@borislovothered8124 You've gotta admit, it's a pretty good dad joke.
Good one LOL
I heard the rim shot in my head even though you didn't type it lol
@@ToonNick bro that was funnier than the actual comment lmao
Gotta respect iHeartJustice for sticking to a character he loves. I could hear him winning all the way from court lobby no.3
Just as long as he's not in Meeting Lobby 7, cause then he has to run over to Kame House.
@@seishinaozora5839 I respect that reference, good sir XD
@@seishinaozora5839 let's just hope he doesn't knock over the AMI urn
“Save your man” as he paper cuts Arthur to death 💀
17:03
My favorite part of the video too :D
Phoenix's gameplay is a perfect reference to the source material. His franchise is all about starting off on the wrong foot and getting to a big turnabout once he finds all the pieces needed to solve the case.
I did not know IHeartJustice, ACTUALLY HEARTS JUSTICE!!
I've never been interested in top tiers (for mechanical and personal taste reasons) and this dude legit picked his team because he's THAT bout it with his theme.
I'm infamous within my own group for being the guy to pick up a game, do no character research besides practice mode (or even random arcade runs), end up maining a low tier, and still whooping the guys that pick high tier. The advantage of Low Tier is that high level players don't expect to see them, so they struggle to counter
@@Reineerus_The_Rat sick man, I play mega casual (just doing the magic series and barely calling assists) but Low Tier Heroes unite!
@@Reineerus_The_Rat so true. One of my most play characters are all in the low tears but I always beat my opponents because they're not used to fighting the characters that I play, they are used to top tiers themselves
I play high teirs cuz I like the characters, like it's not my fault dante and vergil are busted I just like dmc 😭
I'm actually pretty surprised iHeartJustice's reasons for playing PW turned out to be so benign. I'm use to tournament players being optimization junkies who flat out tell you whose bad and whose good so I wasn't ready for the "I love Ace Attorney and I heart justice" reasoning. Love to see it though; I always respect players way more who can take mid or meme characters and make them work rather than seeing the same 6 characters in top 8.
Would also love to see Scamby; His dedicated Resident Evil team of Wesker, Nemesis and Chris worked unusually well.
Scamby’s resident evil team is disgusting, I remember when he beat KBR in tournament and he popped off, that was hype
@@alexmercer5965 thank you for linking the fight, was about to ask
@@alexmercer5965 cheers for that i shall watch it soon
People who say they know something, rarely do.
His coverage of the stage with his team is insane. You were worried about the comments, but at least from me, those matches looked like a bullet hell with rockets the whole time
to be fair some teams in UMVC3 are literal bullet hells, so its par on the course. I would prefer trying to deal with everything he is throwing out then morigan with doom assist any day.
@@shadou1234567 pls i have nightmare of having to deal with that
"Let me get one more." *gets perfected* LMAO. Great sport this guy is.
Another reason he kept getting evidence so quick is because the evidence order doesn't change on rematch unless you exit back to character select.
Wait it's not RNG?
It is rng, but it's generated on character select. It will always be the same string of items until you go to character select again, then it will generate a new order of items. If you watch his tournament play you can see him go back to character select when he doesn't get three good items quickly enough
@@joses1191 that’s really smart, especially since I doubt there’s any rules against that sort of thing in tourney settings
yeah when I heard him say "we go back to character select to reset the rng" I thought he meant it as a joke 🤣
Can’t say it doesn’t make sense that the character themed around dramatic comebacks benefits even more from comeback mechanics lol
Lythero, IHeartJustice, Aonien, Wolf Street and UglyWhen.... the 5 Wrights. I would love to see them play in one session one day, esp Wolf(Wright/Trish/Rocket) and Ugly(Wright/Spencer/Doom). These guys made Wright great. But Heart and Lythero are definitely the ones bearing the torch.
I haven't heard of Wolf and Aoenien in quite a while. Ugly even more so, I wonder what they're up to?
@@seishinaozora5839 i still play daily :P wolfstreet i see him like once a year, uglywhen retired years ago, had a family so u know it's ggs
@@Aonien Wow, I didn't expect to see you here. Thanks for the reply, nice to know you still play all the time! Also thanks for the info on the other two, didn't know Ugly started a family, good to hear all's going well.
Lee’s good at a lot of low tiers now that I think about it. He’s a great Android 16 in DBFZ, and he was one of the best Ganondorf players in the world back in Smash 4
@@wailmoregd140 I know this comment is super old but, to be fair, when Lee picked up 16 back when DBFZ came out, 16 was very good.
Seeing someone play my favorite umvc3 characters warms my heart
I legit paused before a match to make sure he didn't start with evidence, that's optimal lawyering right there. sub 5 second turnabout
"I have a super. It's invincible" this man
YES!!!!!! iHeartJustice is not only a great player, but an AMAZING person. Seriously I CANNOT stress this enough. I met him in a gathering/tournament prior to the last EVO with UMVC3. In there I approached him to say hi and ask about his team choice and nametag, we ended up chatting for a lot of time about many things and hanging in the parking lot. During evo I thought he had forgotten me since I'm just a random player from mexico not even really competitive but he immediately recognized me and was super friendly. Enough to say I stuck around to cheer on all of his matches.
My dude if by chance you still remember a super tall mexican player that you met in that arcade spot in vegas, you're still one of my favorite players! I hope we can coincide again in a tourney or something again. Legit amazing person and wish you the best!
Oh yeah I spent some time during Evo disguised as "Luchador con sombrero" if a tall masked dude with a charro sombrero rings a bell xD
The actual IheartJustice tech is cracking a Joke when the opponent is popping off so he laughs and fails whatever he was doing.
Just like Phoenix wright doing a quick funny commentary while he is in a bad situation just to stay calm
i actually did start that as a habit in high stress situations after playing ace attorney lol
jmcrofts being an ambassador of fighting games is such a great thing. Legit he has the gameshow, he does these talk-the-talks, he covers history: godlike creator right here.
In Round 8, Missile saving the day is the #1 most Ace Attorney thing that can happen in this game.
Can you show the time where that happened?
@@panetoneninjacanal2692 19:30
Bro the 17:04 "save your man." I dunno why it hit me so hard but I laughed at seeing Arthur get ko'd immediately got me.
It's crazy to think that there's an entire generation of people that don't know IHeartJustice for his Phoenix Wright gameplay, but instead as one of the guys who does funny voices on Lythero videos.
When I was first discovering lythero content I had no idea who everyone was and didn’t think much on it beyond “some silly internet guys”. I got absolutely smacked when I realized IHJ was one of them.
The banter during the matches was so incredibly entertaining.
i wonder if people know why phoenix wright is actually in this game. Capcom held an internet poll for the next character and trolls voted him in because he wasn't a fighting game character, just a lawyer. Capcom delivered and stuck him in the game using lawyer moves
Are you sure on that one? I recall reading an article for... the vs title that came out on wii, can't remember what it's called, and according to the article the devs had considered adding Phoenix and Franziska to the game but couldn't figure out how to make the objection bubbles work. Considering this game came out after that one and I'd imagine the devs had figured out how they wanted Wright to work and so added him in.
@@phoenixwright784 according to fandom wiki:
"In an internet poll of characters fans wanted to see in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, Phoenix Wright placed second, first being Mega Man X, and Strider Hiryu being third. Both Wright and Strider made it to Ultimate as playable characters, while X made it in as a DLC costume for Zero, instead becoming a core playable character in Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite."
@@BennyHarassi Okay, but how does that relate to trolls voting him in, as opposed to fans? Because as someone who participated in that poll, I can tell you that I didn't notice any signs of people voting him in for the meme, like with Waluigi or anything. People just liked the character, and wanted him in.
@@JMBoote1 trolls wanted him in because he wasn't a fighting game character. they just wanted to mess with capcom. I distinctly remember r/kappa organizing a troll vote
I choose to believe that the troll vote organized on r/kappa was orchestrated by a legit AA fan who genuinely wanted Phoenix in Mahvel. True 5head
i love how his main reason for playing Wright in this game wasnt for meta reasons or finding this strat that no one had seen before. He just likes the character. It is so INCREDIBLY refreshing!
IHeartJustice is so hyped about his team! Love it, he seems like a great guy.
I'll always love how IFCYipes calls Phoenix Wright matches. 'Sign the divorce papers!' 'Look at this stack of unpaid parking tickets!' 'This man is guilty, your honor!'
Doctor Strange, seeker of cosmic truths
Captain America, Defender of Justice
Phoenix Wright, Defense Attorney who also kinda seeks truth and justice, but mainly is just there because Maya was somehow accused of killing Dr Doom.
Oh yeah, "Fantastic Turnabout" was a ridiculous episode. xD
Phoenix is an awesome example of brilliant innovation. For a genre so often criticized for the games being too similiar, Phoenix Wright comes along being super weird and adding so much to the gameplay.
Such a cool interview. Great video!
"I know that jump Speech Bubble is not an overhead"
I never imagined that I'd hear this sentence and understand it
I think growing up playing this game, it took me 4 years, to realize “…hey Phoenix Wright turnabout mode X-factor just deletes people life’s faster than anyone else, other than Dark Phoenix…” that’s when I knew something was crazy about a lawyer in a fighting game.
“Am I just dead??”
-“Nah, ur’re fine…”-
Then proceed to get combos to death!! 😂 Golden!!
So glad you interviewed IHeartJustice! As one of the people who requested this, it felt just too perfect for this series.
One neat clarification is that PW’s objection stun varies depending on his mode. In investigation mode, he requires 4 hits of objection for his stun. In trial, he requires 3. In tournabout, he only requires 2 hits.
After all this time, iheartjustice is so entertaining to watch. I could literally watch him ruin people's lives with Pheonix all day. Him and Lythero are so good!! Thank you for this.
We need more umvc3 vids I’m trying to dive more into the game and am loving it
It's actually very in-character for Phoenix Wright (since that's pretty much his entire game) to be THE comeback character XD
Throughout the entire MvsC series I always chose my team based on what characters I think would actually get along. Phoenix & Cap would totally hang behind the scenes
“The finger is a bigger pipe”. AYOOO?
Yknow, I don't know anybody that plays this character is particular, but I would really like to see a video on Amaterasu, I feel like not enough people talk about her
I'm not even joking, I picked this game up solely because Phoenix Wright was playable. I was a huge Ace Attorney nerd at the time this and this game improved my ability in fighting games.
This was an amazing video, you guys should collab again! Any chance to see IHJ's Phoenix Wright is always a treat!
Holy shit, that's my phoenix wright mod for the Ryuunosuke suit i was NOT expecting that
6:14 “Dude it’s rough” he says as he picks up three good pieces of evidence in a row 💀💀💀
Love these character specific videos 🔥
thank you so much for the umvc3 content lately i just started a week ago and love the game
I❤️ seems like a really down to earth person! Great video you two!
Phoenix wright is just so cool cause you put in the work and get to be a top 5/top 3 character for 8 marvel seconds. it's just great feeling when time stops and the turnabout theme plays.
this guy sounds EXACTLY like dotodoya
dude this guy is so wholesome and fun to listen to -- please bring him back if you can
This video is making this lowly melee player very interested in this fighting game
I actually didn't know IHeartJustice was an actual competitive player. He plays a lot with Lythero and, at least in the videos, he kinda just messes around and goofs. Of course, to make the videos more fun to watch and such, but I guess I never really got to see a full display of his skill.
IHeartJustice is so good its why Lytheros videos are so edited because most of it is Justice just beating the snot out of everyone else hahahah
@@elfpi55-bigB0O85 I've seen a few of the unedited streams, but they've mostly moved over to fighting the unfair ai and the entire Lythero team dies constantly.
On a note for why Lythero videos are so edited, it's actually because of a mindset. He explained on an editing stream that he watched someone explain engagement on videos. If a viewer is not fully engaged, they're more likely to click off, especially in the beginning. And he just took that to heart.
lythero also used to play mvc3 although it was mostly with uk people so im not sure where he met iheartjustice
@@rikibdgd4764 we met at evo actually!
@@IHeartJustice oh ok
15:10 “I cant believe you killed 2 characters without leaving turnabout”
Chadjustice proceeds to kill 3
PW Turnabout Super is also Zero frames. so you need to block before the flash XD. zero frames are rare in fighting games but when a character has it is scary
Zero frames start up post flash are usually reserved for close range command grabs but some madlad decided “nah fullscreen”
At least it’s blockable
Thanks for the quality UMVC3 content ❤
Man this is a really awesome video!! IHeartJustice is such a cool player, this was a ton of fun to watch.
This was a really fun video. Great stuff.
There's a few examples across competitive games where a genuine love for the character pushed the player to defy the perceived odds and just make it work.
What a fun character. I really enjoyed the rundown and these matches.
Back then when Lythero made Phoenix Wright a god. I will never forget the games he would have with Dante/Deadpool and Joe.
I love this series Jmcroft, thank you.
No one hearts justice more than this guy, that's for sure
Ah Javi X3 He's honestly really good
Justice was so fun in this video. He was funny and nice, a great player to lose to
I remember seeing Iheartjustice and Lythero's marvel phoenix wright youtube video's. I never was disappointed seeing them play
This video was sick, very interesting and nice to see other characters for once
Phoenix Wright was the reason why I got UMVC3 back in the day.
This is a really fun match to watch. Not because Justice is winning but nailing the gimmick character on the head is wildly exciting.
Absolutely sick nasty display from the both of youse! I love watching a unorthodox team in this game, and Justice knows how to bring the hype!
Mr. HeDontMiss himself getting the spotlight LFG
Love the commentary. 💕
IHeartJustice, litterally made me play this man and god i have been loving it.
Perfect timing I was just thinking I wanted to learn Phoenix Wright!
I love characters that are intentionally weak because they become more powerful after setting up some kind of gimmick or meter
Haven't heard "thats cheap" in years hehe I love Phoenix Wright play! awesome vid!
Holy crap. Good find. What a hidden gem
god i love watching character specialists. this is how i pick characters in fighting games honestly and it's so cool watching someone who's just made it work over time
Had to hit the "pause l" when he started talking about Hagar's pipe and Phoenix having the bigger pipe
Phoenix Wright is my favorite character on this game!
Thanks for this video!!
So glad you got IHeartJustice on here. I had no idea about the X-Factor glitch...h-he needs it though, I'm sure.
IHeartJustice is so funny and with the you need one more made me laugh so loud
This video is immensely hype.
Wow, that last fight PERFECT!
Hell yeah IHeartJustice be always hittin the gritty on them bois wit phoenix wright
Thank you for this! Nick has been my guy since the start. Please do Hsien-ko next!!
I love IHeartJustice commentary while he's playing, he' so charming lmao
I'm loving this series
Always good to see Javi getting the recognition he deserves
Realistically character tiers don't matter, all depends on how you fight with those characters. People now tend to take the weakest characters and still manage to make them broken
just a great, uplifting video
I knew I recognized the name
I've been a Lythero fan for a while and it's cool seeing him on the channel!
My man iheartjustice, he's such a great guy
Absolutely nobody:
Phoenix Wright:" I HAVE EVIDENCEEEEEEE, YOU DID ITTTTTTT"🤣
"In team fighters there is no 'bottom tier' just point characters"
-sun tzu
That was 9 matches in 10 mins, wow.
I wanted to see more honestly, wish you guys would get a rematch.
unironically ihj just lied to everybody about an unblockable setup that wasn’t actually unblockable for 7 years
Am so pleased to see my favorite Marvel player get this kind of attention.
I just saw iheartjustice fighting a practice dummy while jmcrofts watched
A wild shenanigoon has appeared
love the content ... would love to see a frank west specialist or felicia